Urban Art Association

Yeah agreed lol. But paypal 45 days still sucks! But agreed on the fact that 45 days to check a print is not damaged or for most street art prints! (wasn't really talking about this case specifically as you might have understood).

To come back to the main problem. Don't really know what you can do for the £160 instead of going to the guy's door. Maybe the credit card claim will pay out (but not really surer about it!)

I think it is better to keep it simple and objective to the point of this thread otherwise we can start an endless discussion.

I still find it odd to start a public thread in May complaining about a seller and a 160 pounds item and three months later start a new one for the same item and raise a discussion about shame and whatever.

If the seller has the money and the object, it is not right at all, but the buyer had some sorts of protection that he neglected by never respecting the timetables that were offered.

I speak for myself, if I am having some sort of trouble with a seller I try to solve it immediately, it is always 'cleaner' and easier.

Recently I sold some items on eBay and they took more time to arrive then they should. The buyers were not stressed at all but I was and I just rested when I received some emails thanking me for the items and the packaging. But that's my personal way of handling all this.

As an update, he has offered my another piece (Beejoir statue) at half price.

I have politely declined, and taken the matter further via legal routes.

I of the opinion that Paypal and Ebay are great but they are not the law and, even though I missed their time frames, I am still in the right per regular courts.

Visa are also investigating and Paypal have offered to look at the case again because I did everything asked, just slower

Thanks for the tips, I'll update as to what happens.

Best not to post peoples private details Fine to say their forum name and ebay name.

Artstudent is another name.

I understand about the privacy, but these are not private names, they are there for anyone to find easily, and he uses several names.

I am not posting addresses etc.

He has taken me for a ride, please everyone else be careful.

My first and my last statement in this case:

In February (six monhs ago) Andymate bought a little Beejoir sculpture I offered on ebay. I sent it well protected and in mint condition to him. After receiving he reported me about an alleged damage. I told him that the damage would be covered by the insurance of DHL, only thing which is required for DHL is an affirmation of his local postman. I asked him 4 times at least, but nothing.
After he opened a Paypal dispute, but the same story with him. No answers and excess of all deadlines. After more than one and a half month later Paypal refused and closed the case.

That's it.