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THE CHRISTMAS GHETTO - POW - LAZARIDES + OTHERS, by love on Dec 3, 2012 1:36:53 GMT 1, 3rd december and still no POW show on the screen... Boring!
3rd december and still no POW show on the screen... Boring!
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THE CHRISTMAS GHETTO - POW - LAZARIDES + OTHERS, by Deleted on Dec 3, 2012 11:48:23 GMT 1,
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THE CHRISTMAS GHETTO - POW - LAZARIDES + OTHERS, by brooksie82 on Dec 3, 2012 12:08:51 GMT 1, They're all bored of it, no ones got the effort or willing to invest the money, POW just feels like an over priced print making company now, theres now edge to them anymore, just half assed prints by random people.
They're all bored of it, no ones got the effort or willing to invest the money, POW just feels like an over priced print making company now, theres now edge to them anymore, just half assed prints by random people.
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THE CHRISTMAS GHETTO - POW - LAZARIDES + OTHERS, by Neate Michael on Dec 3, 2012 12:53:59 GMT 1, I am genuinely surprised that all is so quiet so far. After this week, there are only two trading weeks until Xmas. I would think that past Ghetto's must have provided POW with a good deal of their annual trade. Without that, where would the money be coming from?
One can only guess that either an announcement is immenient, or a big 10 year anniversary show in March will happen instead.
The only other alternative would be that they are now simply an online print company.
I am genuinely surprised that all is so quiet so far. After this week, there are only two trading weeks until Xmas. I would think that past Ghetto's must have provided POW with a good deal of their annual trade. Without that, where would the money be coming from?
One can only guess that either an announcement is immenient, or a big 10 year anniversary show in March will happen instead.
The only other alternative would be that they are now simply an online print company.
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THE CHRISTMAS GHETTO - POW - LAZARIDES + OTHERS, by love on Dec 3, 2012 13:27:04 GMT 1, After 9 years the fans are looking forward for a 10th ghetto. I think it's a sad behaviour not to announce if there's a show or not. They have to know that people are waiting and hoping for new works by Invader, Dran, Banksy,...just to name a few. It would be ok if they just tell the peoples that there will be no show this year.
Tried to contact them via mail, but i didn't get any response. Anyone asked for a show and got a response?
After 9 years the fans are looking forward for a 10th ghetto. I think it's a sad behaviour not to announce if there's a show or not. They have to know that people are waiting and hoping for new works by Invader, Dran, Banksy,...just to name a few. It would be ok if they just tell the peoples that there will be no show this year. Tried to contact them via mail, but i didn't get any response. Anyone asked for a show and got a response?
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THE CHRISTMAS GHETTO - POW - LAZARIDES + OTHERS, by Deleted on Dec 3, 2012 13:39:19 GMT 1,
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THE CHRISTMAS GHETTO - POW - LAZARIDES + OTHERS, by klyde on Dec 3, 2012 13:41:18 GMT 1,
POW dont owe anybody anything.
They sold many hundreds of Banksy prints to many hundreds of individuals for way below market value for years.
Thats the only thing anyone is interested in if they're honest with themself.
Posters kidding on they're desperate to see the next Dran or Lucy Mclauchlan during the same show where they could bag a Banksy impresses nobody.
POW dont owe anybody anything.
They sold many hundreds of Banksy prints to many hundreds of individuals for way below market value for years.
Thats the only thing anyone is interested in if they're honest with themself.
Posters kidding on they're desperate to see the next Dran or Lucy Mclauchlan during the same show where they could bag a Banksy impresses nobody.
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THE CHRISTMAS GHETTO - POW - LAZARIDES + OTHERS, by Deleted on Dec 3, 2012 13:44:51 GMT 1, After 9 years the fans are looking forward for a 10th ghetto. I think it's a sad behaviour not to announce if there's a show or not. They have to know that people are waiting and hoping for new works by Invader, Dran, Banksy,...just to name a few. It would be ok if they just tell the peoples that there will be no show this year. Tried to contact them via mail, but i didn't get any response. Anyone asked for a show and got a response?
Is it any sadder than your rant? So get a grip mate, no one is oblige to do or say anything to you or to the forum or anyone else.
Some of the posts are getting borderline desperate and unnecessary. On reading some posts, why would anyone want to put on a show!!
After 9 years the fans are looking forward for a 10th ghetto. I think it's a sad behaviour not to announce if there's a show or not. They have to know that people are waiting and hoping for new works by Invader, Dran, Banksy,...just to name a few. It would be ok if they just tell the peoples that there will be no show this year. Tried to contact them via mail, but i didn't get any response. Anyone asked for a show and got a response? Is it any sadder than your rant? So get a grip mate, no one is oblige to do or say anything to you or to the forum or anyone else. Some of the posts are getting borderline desperate and unnecessary. On reading some posts, why would anyone want to put on a show!!
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THE CHRISTMAS GHETTO - POW - LAZARIDES + OTHERS, by love on Dec 3, 2012 14:02:12 GMT 1, Didn't say they owe me anything, but isn't it just "normal" to respond to a mail? And i wouldn't call it a rant, more like a description of the status quo.
Didn't say they owe me anything, but isn't it just "normal" to respond to a mail? And i wouldn't call it a rant, more like a description of the status quo.
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THE CHRISTMAS GHETTO - POW - LAZARIDES + OTHERS, by Sundowner on Dec 3, 2012 14:26:14 GMT 1, There is no show, no Ghetto, no event this December.
There is no show, no Ghetto, no event this December.
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THE CHRISTMAS GHETTO - POW - LAZARIDES + OTHERS, by Deleted on Dec 3, 2012 14:43:35 GMT 1, Is it any sadder than your rant? So get a grip mate, no one is oblige to do or say anything to you or to the forum or anyone else. Some of the posts are getting borderline desperate and unnecessary. On reading some posts, why would anyone want to put on a show!!
Totally agree Joe.
Working in the run up to xmas, on behalf of the 'public' is hard work. Hopefully those involved with SG over the last 9 years can put their feet up and watch others work their backsides off.
Is it any sadder than your rant? So get a grip mate, no one is oblige to do or say anything to you or to the forum or anyone else. Some of the posts are getting borderline desperate and unnecessary. On reading some posts, why would anyone want to put on a show!! Totally agree Joe. Working in the run up to xmas, on behalf of the 'public' is hard work. Hopefully those involved with SG over the last 9 years can put their feet up and watch others work their backsides off.
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THE CHRISTMAS GHETTO - POW - LAZARIDES + OTHERS, by Lord Lucas Roham on Dec 3, 2012 15:53:08 GMT 1, Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
Nothing to see here.
Ho.ho.ho.ho.flipper.
Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
Nothing to see here.
Ho.ho.ho.ho.flipper.
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THE CHRISTMAS GHETTO - POW - LAZARIDES + OTHERS, by fielder on Dec 3, 2012 17:44:24 GMT 1, I believe the end of the world's coming on December 21st so not really worth all the effort of putting on a show.
I believe the end of the world's coming on December 21st so not really worth all the effort of putting on a show.
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THE CHRISTMAS GHETTO - POW - LAZARIDES + OTHERS, by Deleted on Dec 3, 2012 19:07:27 GMT 1,
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THE CHRISTMAS GHETTO - POW - LAZARIDES + OTHERS, by Deleted on Dec 3, 2012 19:23:13 GMT 1, Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz Nothing to see here. Ho.ho.ho.ho.flipper.
Welcome back.
Agree with the doubters here, why on earth (after last year) would POW's owner's recommend a new event when they've probably made more money than they can spend and whatever they try and do they get slated for.
I personally couldn't be arsed......
It's Jboy's fault, natch.
Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz Nothing to see here. Ho.ho.ho.ho.flipper. Welcome back. Agree with the doubters here, why on earth (after last year) would POW's owner's recommend a new event when they've probably made more money than they can spend and whatever they try and do they get slated for. I personally couldn't be arsed...... It's Jboy's fault, natch.
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THE CHRISTMAS GHETTO - POW - LAZARIDES + OTHERS, by curiousgeorge on Dec 3, 2012 21:41:55 GMT 1, fnarr fnarr lurkers has a -69'er
fnarr fnarr lurkers has a -69'er
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THE CHRISTMAS GHETTO - POW - LAZARIDES + OTHERS, by Deleted on Dec 3, 2012 22:41:43 GMT 1, - 70 actually dear boy, do keep up.
- 70 actually dear boy, do keep up.
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THE CHRISTMAS GHETTO - POW - LAZARIDES + OTHERS, by My Name is Frank on Dec 3, 2012 23:36:11 GMT 1,
That's quality
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THE CHRISTMAS GHETTO - POW - LAZARIDES + OTHERS, by Guest on Dec 4, 2012 11:33:01 GMT 1, PINS & Fridriks prob prints of the year then. They must either be planning a big event or having issues. One of those two.
PINS & Fridriks prob prints of the year then. They must either be planning a big event or having issues. One of those two.
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THE CHRISTMAS GHETTO - POW - LAZARIDES + OTHERS, by twist65 on Dec 4, 2012 11:45:48 GMT 1, that's not a lot of output when you see it like that, but for me I prefer POW with less releases and keeping the bar high, they've released some rubbish before now and while I applaud them supporting new or lesser known artists I'm quite happy with that little lot.
I'm sure a lot gets produced/sold behind the scenes and online print sales is just one aspect of their business, so difficult to assess whether its been a good year for them (I'm sure it has been), but for their customers I would say quality over quantity. Agree with Freerange, PINS my print of the year, and while not for me the Fridriks looked awesome.
that's not a lot of output when you see it like that, but for me I prefer POW with less releases and keeping the bar high, they've released some rubbish before now and while I applaud them supporting new or lesser known artists I'm quite happy with that little lot.
I'm sure a lot gets produced/sold behind the scenes and online print sales is just one aspect of their business, so difficult to assess whether its been a good year for them (I'm sure it has been), but for their customers I would say quality over quantity. Agree with Freerange, PINS my print of the year, and while not for me the Fridriks looked awesome.
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THE CHRISTMAS GHETTO - POW - LAZARIDES + OTHERS, by Guest on Dec 4, 2012 11:45:51 GMT 1, They need to get back some of those they lost for whatever reason.
They need to get back some of those they lost for whatever reason.
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THE CHRISTMAS GHETTO - POW - LAZARIDES + OTHERS, by Deleted on Dec 4, 2012 12:07:18 GMT 1, POW releases in 2012; 7th February - Shok1 - Heart Noose (Sold Out) 1st March - Todd James - Pirate Radio (Still available) 29th May - Jubilee Special * Banksy (online download) * Bast - Strap Hanger (Sold out) * 3D - Cruel Britannia (Sold out) * Paul Insect - Clockwork Britain (Sold out) * Gold Peg - All I want is revenge (Sold out) 3rd July - Lush - Colourful guts (Still available) 15th August * Miss Van - Virgen (Sold out) * Dora Dewsbury (regular sold out, specials still available) 16th October - Katrin Fridriks - Golden Awareness (both editions sold out)
Not specific to POW but London print shops in general.Best case scenario.
70/30 split with the artists, approx production/sales/packing costs 40%, probably more with a few of them.. say profit max 30% on total sales, based on one "sold out" print a month edition size 100 and price average ยฃ150 ...1200 prints, total ยฃ180000, Gallery share at 30% profit margin ยฃ60-80k.. minus central location rent, tax, running costs, promotion, production and staff. A tough tough business at any time let alone the midst of a recession.
POW set the template that EVERYONE followed and will be forever remembered for doing so. Deserving of our support and respect for introducing the world to a raft of pretty amazing artists and works.
POW releases in 2012; 7th February - Shok1 - Heart Noose (Sold Out) 1st March - Todd James - Pirate Radio (Still available) 29th May - Jubilee Special * Banksy (online download) * Bast - Strap Hanger (Sold out) * 3D - Cruel Britannia (Sold out) * Paul Insect - Clockwork Britain (Sold out) * Gold Peg - All I want is revenge (Sold out) 3rd July - Lush - Colourful guts (Still available) 15th August * Miss Van - Virgen (Sold out) * Dora Dewsbury (regular sold out, specials still available) 16th October - Katrin Fridriks - Golden Awareness (both editions sold out) Not specific to POW but London print shops in general.Best case scenario. 70/30 split with the artists, approx production/sales/packing costs 40%, probably more with a few of them.. say profit max 30% on total sales, based on one "sold out" print a month edition size 100 and price average ยฃ150 ...1200 prints, total ยฃ180000, Gallery share at 30% profit margin ยฃ60-80k.. minus central location rent, tax, running costs, promotion, production and staff. A tough tough business at any time let alone the midst of a recession. POW set the template that EVERYONE followed and will be forever remembered for doing so. Deserving of our support and respect for introducing the world to a raft of pretty amazing artists and works.
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THE CHRISTMAS GHETTO - POW - LAZARIDES + OTHERS, by redfred on Dec 4, 2012 14:18:31 GMT 1, ^^ Totally agree, POW bless em have done a great job over the years and brought an awful lot of pleasure one way or another to a lot of members of this forum. They practically invented the 'bunfight' and even if you didnt win it was still a bloody good laugh and a memorable bit of sport! I for one hope its not a scaled down version of POW that we see in the future. Support POW and lets have another bunfight so the new members can see what they have been missing!!! Just sayin.
^^ Totally agree, POW bless em have done a great job over the years and brought an awful lot of pleasure one way or another to a lot of members of this forum. They practically invented the 'bunfight' and even if you didnt win it was still a bloody good laugh and a memorable bit of sport! I for one hope its not a scaled down version of POW that we see in the future. Support POW and lets have another bunfight so the new members can see what they have been missing!!! Just sayin.
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THE CHRISTMAS GHETTO - POW - LAZARIDES + OTHERS, by grandesenor on Dec 4, 2012 17:51:57 GMT 1, If I start to queue on Thursday for something which might happen on Saturday do you think that this will be a waste of time? I have a comfy chair and a good sleeping bag and nothing better to do so might as well give it a shot?
If I start to queue on Thursday for something which might happen on Saturday do you think that this will be a waste of time? I have a comfy chair and a good sleeping bag and nothing better to do so might as well give it a shot?
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THE CHRISTMAS GHETTO - POW - LAZARIDES + OTHERS, by warsaw project on Dec 4, 2012 17:55:09 GMT 1, If I start to queue on Thursday or something which might happen on Saturday do you think that this will be a waste of time? I have a comfy chair and a good sleeping bag and nothing better to do so might as well give it a shot?
Well if you have nothing better to do, why not....!! Seems like a sane thing to do... Get a little sign made up and a flat cap on the floor, you could make a few bob!!
To be fair the above statement is in keeping with the insanity of this thread, so crack on my good man
If I start to queue on Thursday or something which might happen on Saturday do you think that this will be a waste of time? I have a comfy chair and a good sleeping bag and nothing better to do so might as well give it a shot? Well if you have nothing better to do, why not....!! Seems like a sane thing to do... Get a little sign made up and a flat cap on the floor, you could make a few bob!! To be fair the above statement is in keeping with the insanity of this thread, so crack on my good man
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THE CHRISTMAS GHETTO - POW - LAZARIDES + OTHERS, by letiss on Dec 4, 2012 18:24:19 GMT 1, If I start to queue on Thursday for something which might happen on Saturday do you think that this will be a waste of time? I have a comfy chair and a good sleeping bag and nothing better to do so might as well give it a shot?
+1
I'd give the queuing this week a go, especially as you've got a chair.
If I start to queue on Thursday for something which might happen on Saturday do you think that this will be a waste of time? I have a comfy chair and a good sleeping bag and nothing better to do so might as well give it a shot? +1 I'd give the queuing this week a go, especially as you've got a chair.
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THE CHRISTMAS GHETTO - POW - LAZARIDES + OTHERS, by ABC on Dec 4, 2012 18:27:09 GMT 1, After all, us Brits love to queue.
After all, us Brits love to queue.
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THE CHRISTMAS GHETTO - POW - LAZARIDES + OTHERS, by Stinky Pete on Dec 6, 2012 1:01:02 GMT 1, looks like banksy will still release through pow anyhow
Thanks for taking the time to write to Banksy, who is currently too busy doing charity work/helping the sick/drunk out of his mind* to reply in person.
All prints are released through Pictures on Walls, if you haven't already you could join their mailing list, an email is sent out close to the time of a release with details of how to register your interest in purchasing one. Good luck.
Regards and good wishes
Dean
looks like banksy will still release through pow anyhow
Thanks for taking the time to write to Banksy, who is currently too busy doing charity work/helping the sick/drunk out of his mind* to reply in person.
All prints are released through Pictures on Walls, if you haven't already you could join their mailing list, an email is sent out close to the time of a release with details of how to register your interest in purchasing one. Good luck.
Regards and good wishes
Dean
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THE CHRISTMAS GHETTO - POW - LAZARIDES + OTHERS, by Guest on Dec 6, 2012 1:26:03 GMT 1, Think you can read a lot into that. Suggests all future prints will be lottery.
Think you can read a lot into that. Suggests all future prints will be lottery.
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