duggyfresh
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Low numbers, by duggyfresh on Jun 14, 2013 16:13:55 GMT 1, Does it make a difference in value or collectibility, if a print is a low number. Often you see people saying low number when selling.
Does it make a difference in value or collectibility, if a print is a low number. Often you see people saying low number when selling.
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Cornish Crayon
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Low numbers, by Cornish Crayon on Jun 14, 2013 16:15:53 GMT 1, Here is a question for you then dude ?
Print edition of 100.......
Three numbers you would like ?
No worries
Here is a question for you then dude ?
Print edition of 100.......
Three numbers you would like ?
No worries
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Low numbers, by alittle on Jun 14, 2013 16:16:34 GMT 1, To some people, that is appealing, to others, not so much. Personally, I would never pay more for a low number, but I'm happy when I get 1/X direct from the artist.
To some people, that is appealing, to others, not so much. Personally, I would never pay more for a low number, but I'm happy when I get 1/X direct from the artist.
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duggyfresh
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Low numbers, by duggyfresh on Jun 14, 2013 16:19:35 GMT 1, I would'nt pay extra either, but like you said some people like it. Also I have seen galleries saying they are keeping numbers 1-3 etc
I would'nt pay extra either, but like you said some people like it. Also I have seen galleries saying they are keeping numbers 1-3 etc
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Low numbers, by Dr Plip on Jun 14, 2013 16:42:45 GMT 1, A seller will use anything to make a print seem more "special" than its siblings.
"Low numbers have better printing"
"The signatures on the low numbers are better, because the artist isn't as knackered"
"#1, ooooh special. Just like #56......but more special-er"
"#69 *giggle"
"The artist/gallery always keep #1, so #2 is like the #1"
I've seen prints randomly piled up and signed whenever the artist can be bothered, so the "early print" thing isn't always the case. People do genuinely feel that #1 and #100 of a print are more desirable than the others in the run though. Some people like birthday related numbers. Matching numbers. If the number can relate to the subject matter (Star Trek print #1701, Exorcist print #666, etc), then that makes it easier to sell. It goes on.
The rational part of my brain knows it shouldn't make a difference, but I do like pretty numbers. I hate numbers like #97, #51, #127, etc.
A seller will use anything to make a print seem more "special" than its siblings.
"Low numbers have better printing"
"The signatures on the low numbers are better, because the artist isn't as knackered"
"#1, ooooh special. Just like #56......but more special-er"
"#69 *giggle"
"The artist/gallery always keep #1, so #2 is like the #1"
I've seen prints randomly piled up and signed whenever the artist can be bothered, so the "early print" thing isn't always the case. People do genuinely feel that #1 and #100 of a print are more desirable than the others in the run though. Some people like birthday related numbers. Matching numbers. If the number can relate to the subject matter (Star Trek print #1701, Exorcist print #666, etc), then that makes it easier to sell. It goes on.
The rational part of my brain knows it shouldn't make a difference, but I do like pretty numbers. I hate numbers like #97, #51, #127, etc.
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Low numbers, by Deleted on Jun 14, 2013 16:46:45 GMT 1, What about 'APs' then plip?,that like 2 whole letters to write,would that occur at the start or end or would they just get mum to do those?.
What about 'APs' then plip?,that like 2 whole letters to write,would that occur at the start or end or would they just get mum to do those?.
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Low numbers, by Deleted on Jun 14, 2013 17:03:31 GMT 1, the number only serves to limit the print within an edition. You are getting the exact same product no matter what the number is so its completely irrelevant if its 1 or 100 because its the same thing
the number only serves to limit the print within an edition. You are getting the exact same product no matter what the number is so its completely irrelevant if its 1 or 100 because its the same thing
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duggyfresh
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Low numbers, by duggyfresh on Jun 14, 2013 17:03:56 GMT 1, Also what about matching numbers with different colourways.
Also what about matching numbers with different colourways.
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Low numbers, by Gard on Jun 14, 2013 17:04:47 GMT 1, It just looks nice on the wall
It just looks nice on the wall
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Low numbers, by anbesivam1 on Jun 14, 2013 17:16:49 GMT 1, the number only serves to limit the print within an edition. You are getting the exact same product no matter what the number is so its completely irrelevant if its 1 or 100 because its the same thing
the number only serves to limit the print within an edition. You are getting the exact same product no matter what the number is so its completely irrelevant if its 1 or 100 because its the same thing If you are buying an old silkscreen print...the older screens deteriorated over the process of printing...so the lower numbers were more sort after, as they had fewer imperfections. Today with durable synthetic materials used, this is less of a problem, but still occurs...plus if the printer is a bit slap dash they will not clean the screens regularly and then paint debris creeps in to the screens leading to imperfections. |
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Low numbers, by Dr Plip on Jun 14, 2013 17:17:06 GMT 1, What about 'APs' then plip?,that like 2 whole letters to write,would that occur at the start or end or would they just get mum to do those?.
Whoever has the neatest handwriting gets to do it.
What about 'APs' then plip?,that like 2 whole letters to write,would that occur at the start or end or would they just get mum to do those?. Whoever has the neatest handwriting gets to do it. |
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Low numbers, by sfinks on Jun 14, 2013 17:17:33 GMT 1, I see most ppl who have a view on this, almost always say the same. It does not matter.
To me itโs about rarity. If there is a print with only 1 run, the print nr 1 would either be easier to sell then a random number, and might even go a bit higher than the rest of the run, just because itโs what it is, nr 1.
Low number in general is nothing more than a low number imo. Doesnโt stand out in any way.
Nr 1 gets a bit less interesting when there are lots of color ways of the same print, because now there are suddenly 5-10 nr 1 prints including APs. In these cases there are no print that is rarer than the other, and numbering is of no other matter then what it makes the owner feel.
But if we look aside from mass production of colors, and only consider pure runs, I think nr 1(and only this number), has a bit more "value" either in worth or rareness.
I see most ppl who have a view on this, almost always say the same. It does not matter.
To me itโs about rarity. If there is a print with only 1 run, the print nr 1 would either be easier to sell then a random number, and might even go a bit higher than the rest of the run, just because itโs what it is, nr 1.
Low number in general is nothing more than a low number imo. Doesnโt stand out in any way.
Nr 1 gets a bit less interesting when there are lots of color ways of the same print, because now there are suddenly 5-10 nr 1 prints including APs. In these cases there are no print that is rarer than the other, and numbering is of no other matter then what it makes the owner feel.
But if we look aside from mass production of colors, and only consider pure runs, I think nr 1(and only this number), has a bit more "value" either in worth or rareness.
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Low numbers, by Gulosten on Jun 14, 2013 17:24:13 GMT 1, Personally I would say 1/250 or 250/250 are more valuable, anything in between it's the same..
Personally I would say 1/250 or 250/250 are more valuable, anything in between it's the same..
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Low numbers, by rottenredrooster on Jun 14, 2013 17:25:19 GMT 1, No
No
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Low numbers, by DameHoracia on Jun 14, 2013 17:37:13 GMT 1, the number only serves to limit the print within an edition. You are getting the exact same product no matter what the number is so its completely irrelevant if its 1 or 100 because its the same thing If you are buying an old silkscreen print...the older screens deteriorated over the process of printing...so the lower numbers were more sort after, as they had fewer imperfections. Today with durable synthetic materials used, this is less of a problem, but still occurs...plus if the printer is a bit slap dash they will not clean the screens regularly and then paint debris creeps in to the screens leading to imperfections.
This.
It does matter.
the number only serves to limit the print within an edition. You are getting the exact same product no matter what the number is so its completely irrelevant if its 1 or 100 because its the same thing If you are buying an old silkscreen print...the older screens deteriorated over the process of printing...so the lower numbers were more sort after, as they had fewer imperfections. Today with durable synthetic materials used, this is less of a problem, but still occurs...plus if the printer is a bit slap dash they will not clean the screens regularly and then paint debris creeps in to the screens leading to imperfections. This. It does matter. |
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Low numbers, by Dr Plip on Jun 14, 2013 17:48:07 GMT 1, If you are buying an old silkscreen print...the older screens deteriorated over the process of printing...so the lower numbers were more sort after, as they had fewer imperfections. Today with durable synthetic materials used, this is less of a problem, but still occurs...plus if the printer is a bit slap dash they will not clean the screens regularly and then paint debris creeps in to the screens leading to imperfections. This. It does matter.
I guess that's what I get for assuming. I've made an ass out of just me.
If you are buying an old silkscreen print...the older screens deteriorated over the process of printing...so the lower numbers were more sort after, as they had fewer imperfections. Today with durable synthetic materials used, this is less of a problem, but still occurs...plus if the printer is a bit slap dash they will not clean the screens regularly and then paint debris creeps in to the screens leading to imperfections. This. It does matter. Are prints numbered in the order that they're printed then? I always assumed that most were screened, then set aside to dry, then later signed and numbered, in any order that was picked off the drying racks. I guess that's what I get for assuming. I've made an ass out of just me. |
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Low numbers, by Deleted on Jun 14, 2013 21:25:07 GMT 1, I don't think it should matter but it does! People want lower numbers, a 1 or a 2 especially, and they will be prepared to pay more for them so it ends up pushing up their price.
I don't think it should matter but it does! People want lower numbers, a 1 or a 2 especially, and they will be prepared to pay more for them so it ends up pushing up their price.
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Low numbers, by connecta1 on Jun 14, 2013 22:30:07 GMT 1, ...apropos of nothing, my 'God I Want To Be Bad' is 999/1000
...apropos of nothing, my 'God I Want To Be Bad' is 999/1000
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Low numbers, by .dappy on Jun 14, 2013 22:43:39 GMT 1,
dappy is doppy ... but not now 
apropos of nothing:
~ Without reference to anything.
~ Without any apparent reason or purpose.
~ Usage notes:
Sometimes used in conversation to introduce a comment that has no bearing on the current subject.
I had always thought the word "apropos" came from the French "ร propos"
meaning "to the purpose," however I was recently corrected by someone
who claimed "ร propos" actually means "originated" in French and
therefore is misused by people who say the phrase "apropos of nothing"
meaning "irrelevant" or "off the subject." Any fluent French speakers
out there who can end this debate for me?
Word Origin & History
apropos
1668, from Fr. ร propos "to the purpose," from propos "purpose, plan,"
from L. propositium, pp. of proponere "to set forth, propose."
I learn everyday on here 
dappy is doppy ... but not now apropos of nothing: ~ Without reference to anything. ~ Without any apparent reason or purpose. ~ Usage notes: Sometimes used in conversation to introduce a comment that has no bearing on the current subject. I had always thought the word "apropos" came from the French "ร propos" meaning "to the purpose," however I was recently corrected by someone who claimed "ร propos" actually means "originated" in French and therefore is misused by people who say the phrase "apropos of nothing" meaning "irrelevant" or "off the subject." Any fluent French speakers out there who can end this debate for me? Word Origin & Historyapropos 1668, from Fr. ร propos "to the purpose," from propos "purpose, plan," from L. propositium, pp. of proponere "to set forth, propose." I learn everyday on here
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Low numbers, by schnulli on Jun 16, 2013 7:00:52 GMT 1, Yeah I wish I had a #1 dolk kitty riot to go next to the #1 teddy riot, oh well
Yeah I wish I had a #1 dolk kitty riot to go next to the #1 teddy riot, oh well
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Low numbers, by swamped on Jun 16, 2013 7:28:45 GMT 1, Well I guess I am in the minority here, I do like very much single digit numbers 6/100, 2/50 1/450 ect...as far as paying more..ehh maybe a little more and I mean $20 more that's about it,otherwise just give me any number. But if I can choose or have a say, yes always a low number.
Well I guess I am in the minority here, I do like very much single digit numbers 6/100, 2/50 1/450 ect...as far as paying more..ehh maybe a little more and I mean $20 more that's about it,otherwise just give me any number. But if I can choose or have a say, yes always a low number.
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Low numbers, by jonnyx on Jun 16, 2013 15:44:40 GMT 1, all i know is you ought to have a basic grasp of latin if you're working in currys.
all i know is you ought to have a basic grasp of latin if you're working in currys.
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Low numbers, by Ottomatik on Jun 16, 2013 17:09:07 GMT 1, What about my #16/250 Dolk Evolution?
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Low numbers, by Hairbland on Jun 16, 2013 17:09:54 GMT 1, The way many of these runs sell out I'm thrilled to get something I want number be damned.
The way many of these runs sell out I'm thrilled to get something I want number be damned.
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Low numbers, by Ottomatik on Jun 16, 2013 17:11:15 GMT 1, The way many of these runs sell out I'm thrilled to get something I want number be damned.
I second that emotion!
The way many of these runs sell out I'm thrilled to get something I want number be damned. I second that emotion! |
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Low numbers, by chichi carter on Jun 16, 2013 17:51:27 GMT 1, dappy is doppy ... but not now apropos of nothing: ~ Without reference to anything. ~ Without any apparent reason or purpose. ~ Usage notes: Sometimes used in conversation to introduce a comment that has no bearing on the current subject. I had always thought the word "apropos" came from the French "ร propos" meaning "to the purpose," however I was recently corrected by someone who claimed "ร propos" actually means "originated" in French and therefore is misused by people who say the phrase "apropos of nothing" meaning "irrelevant" or "off the subject." Any fluent French speakers out there who can end this debate for me? Word Origin & Historyapropos 1668, from Fr. ร propos "to the purpose," from propos "purpose, plan," from L. propositium, pp. of proponere "to set forth, propose." I learn everyday on here
dappy is doppy ... but not now apropos of nothing: ~ Without reference to anything. ~ Without any apparent reason or purpose. ~ Usage notes: Sometimes used in conversation to introduce a comment that has no bearing on the current subject. I had always thought the word "apropos" came from the French "ร propos" meaning "to the purpose," however I was recently corrected by someone who claimed "ร propos" actually means "originated" in French and therefore is misused by people who say the phrase "apropos of nothing" meaning "irrelevant" or "off the subject." Any fluent French speakers out there who can end this debate for me? Word Origin & Historyapropos 1668, from Fr. ร propos "to the purpose," from propos "purpose, plan," from L. propositium, pp. of proponere "to set forth, propose." I learn everyday on here
'ร propos' does not translate to 'originated'. The meaning varies a bit depending on the context it is used in. 'ร propos de...' would mean 'in regards to...' or 'regarding that subject...', or 'relevant to this subject'. So the way it was used in this thread sort of works. I guess it would translate to 'Irrelevant to what is being said in this thread...'! I should have started my post with that sentence. This french lesson has been brought to you by the letter 'D' and the number '16'. |
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Low numbers, by Daniel Silk on Jun 17, 2013 6:02:23 GMT 1, I think also the lower numbered prints seem to go to the really serious fans and collectors, while the flippers pickup the higher numbered prints after they have judged the demand and seen the online reaction to the image.
I think also the lower numbered prints seem to go to the really serious fans and collectors, while the flippers pickup the higher numbered prints after they have judged the demand and seen the online reaction to the image.
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Low numbers, by Jeezuz Jones Snr on Jun 17, 2013 9:13:48 GMT 1, I bought a ltd ed watch last year, tracked two down, one number was 452/1970 and the other was 11/1970 I went for the 11, I was chuffed I owned one under 20 but for a print I don't think I would be that bothered apart from No1 which I would pay a little more for.
I bought a ltd ed watch last year, tracked two down, one number was 452/1970 and the other was 11/1970 I went for the 11, I was chuffed I owned one under 20 but for a print I don't think I would be that bothered apart from No1 which I would pay a little more for.
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Low numbers, by james2g on Jun 23, 2013 20:14:01 GMT 1, So petty.
So petty.
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Low numbers, by Deleted on Jun 23, 2013 20:40:56 GMT 1, Its like anoraks anonymous,who cares about the number?, if its a run of 100 and i got number 359 then i would prob worry (a bit), but its just a number innit.
Life = Get one.
Its like anoraks anonymous,who cares about the number?, if its a run of 100 and i got number 359 then i would prob worry (a bit), but its just a number innit.
Life = Get one.
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