chads007
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December 2012
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Best framing option, by chads007 on Jun 24, 2013 15:31:49 GMT 1, Having recently started collecting prints mainly, I'd like to finally get them on a wall. They're not 4-5 figure stuff at the moment, but I like them & don't see me parting. I can't justify conservation / museum glass.
What should I be looking for? Anti glare & anti uv?
What anti uv be sufficient in maintaining it? I don't intend in keeping it near a light or heat source.
I have a few to do, would framers offer discount on multiple items?
How would I know what looks best - never done it so want to find complementary frames.
Do I request that they don't stick (mount ?) to frame physically ?
What are ball mark prices for certain sizes?
Is going local best ?
Cheers in advance
Having recently started collecting prints mainly, I'd like to finally get them on a wall. They're not 4-5 figure stuff at the moment, but I like them & don't see me parting. I can't justify conservation / museum glass.
What should I be looking for? Anti glare & anti uv?
What anti uv be sufficient in maintaining it? I don't intend in keeping it near a light or heat source.
I have a few to do, would framers offer discount on multiple items?
How would I know what looks best - never done it so want to find complementary frames.
Do I request that they don't stick (mount ?) to frame physically ?
What are ball mark prices for certain sizes?
Is going local best ?
Cheers in advance
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Best framing option, by Happy Shopper on Jun 24, 2013 15:55:19 GMT 1, Personally I like prints with shiny glass (not museum glass)
Always UV glass or perspex
Yep, framers do discounts
Always have archive framing materials
Keep framing simple. Some say white box frames are boring, but they suit everything and will match if you have a few in the same room!
... Prices depend on who you use !
Personally I like prints with shiny glass (not museum glass)
Always UV glass or perspex
Yep, framers do discounts
Always have archive framing materials
Keep framing simple. Some say white box frames are boring, but they suit everything and will match if you have a few in the same room!
... Prices depend on who you use !
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chads007
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Best framing option, by chads007 on Jun 24, 2013 16:43:57 GMT 1, Cheers for that
Cheers for that
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Gard
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Best framing option, by Gard on Jun 24, 2013 17:33:47 GMT 1, I use white box frames and anti reflex on everything I own. It's nice to see the print and not your own face when you look at it, and the UV protection isn't that much different to the UV glass.
Framers are happy to do discounts. When you ask the worst they can say are no.
I use white box frames and anti reflex on everything I own. It's nice to see the print and not your own face when you look at it, and the UV protection isn't that much different to the UV glass.
Framers are happy to do discounts. When you ask the worst they can say are no.
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chads007
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Best framing option, by chads007 on Jun 24, 2013 17:59:23 GMT 1, I can see how they look good & go with most but does it look samey?
I can see how they look good & go with most but does it look samey?
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Best framing option, by Deleted on Jun 26, 2013 22:30:59 GMT 1, When it comes to anti glare glass I look at three things: where will the print be placed, the level of detail in the print and what is the dominant colour of the print.
If it's going near a window then sometimes you can only see the reflection on standard glass so the anti glare is much better.
I also look at the level of detail in a print. If its a very detailed print (eg something like a Handiedan) with lots of fine detail then the anti glare will show more of the detail but this wouldn't be as important on a two layer stencil print with far less detail.
The only other thing I look at is how much black is in the print! I've got a Pure Evil print 'Death Planet' that is a big print with a lot of black in the background. i got anti glare glass as it would just look grey if the light was reflected back off it.
That's my criteria anyway, if you go through each print with your framer then I'm sure he will advise you what's best.
When it comes to anti glare glass I look at three things: where will the print be placed, the level of detail in the print and what is the dominant colour of the print.
If it's going near a window then sometimes you can only see the reflection on standard glass so the anti glare is much better.
I also look at the level of detail in a print. If its a very detailed print (eg something like a Handiedan) with lots of fine detail then the anti glare will show more of the detail but this wouldn't be as important on a two layer stencil print with far less detail.
The only other thing I look at is how much black is in the print! I've got a Pure Evil print 'Death Planet' that is a big print with a lot of black in the background. i got anti glare glass as it would just look grey if the light was reflected back off it.
That's my criteria anyway, if you go through each print with your framer then I'm sure he will advise you what's best.
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medichead
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Best framing option, by medichead on Apr 20, 2017 15:06:37 GMT 1,
That was great - thank you for sharing.
FWIW, I was quoted ยฃ260 to float an A1 poster in museum glass in hardwood box frame with museum backing (that was cheapest - one quote was ยฃ375). UV protective only was about ยฃ180-220. How do these numbers compare to others? Both local guys in North London.
That was great - thank you for sharing. FWIW, I was quoted ยฃ260 to float an A1 poster in museum glass in hardwood box frame with museum backing (that was cheapest - one quote was ยฃ375). UV protective only was about ยฃ180-220. How do these numbers compare to others? Both local guys in North London. |
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maxamaxa2
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Best framing option, by maxamaxa2 on Apr 20, 2017 15:41:27 GMT 1, That was great - thank you for sharing. FWIW, I was quoted ยฃ260 to float an A1 poster in museum glass in hardwood box frame with museum backing (that was cheapest - one quote was ยฃ375). UV protective only was about ยฃ180-220. How do these numbers compare to others? Both local guys in North London.
Sounds quite alright all of the prices.
The problem is to find a framer you trust, there is loads of bad framers out there that doesn't understand how much a chip or a fold damages and devalues the artwork.
Hell, I let The picture frame gallery in London make my frames even thou im living in Sweden, just cause I have been burnt here and doesn't want to risk more prints in the search of a good lokal framer, imagine that 
The "UV-glass" and "museeum glass" seem to be a jungle with a variety of quality levels and therefore price levels which makes comparisons very hard, from my experience "Art glass" can be whatever.
The biggest problem with the Optimum acrylic and the good museum glas is that if you have it for one print the UV-glass on the other once will start nagging you and normal glass will be totally out of the question.
So, stick with UV glass if possible, the Optimum is an insanely expensive habit that you cant back away from if you have tried it once
But if its a local framer, just go down ad talk to them. Ask them to show you the different glass-types they have and the differences between them. Use the one that you feel you can trust the most, that looks serious and seem to make the best job.
That was great - thank you for sharing. FWIW, I was quoted ยฃ260 to float an A1 poster in museum glass in hardwood box frame with museum backing (that was cheapest - one quote was ยฃ375). UV protective only was about ยฃ180-220. How do these numbers compare to others? Both local guys in North London. Sounds quite alright all of the prices. The problem is to find a framer you trust, there is loads of bad framers out there that doesn't understand how much a chip or a fold damages and devalues the artwork. Hell, I let The picture frame gallery in London make my frames even thou im living in Sweden, just cause I have been burnt here and doesn't want to risk more prints in the search of a good lokal framer, imagine that The "UV-glass" and "museeum glass" seem to be a jungle with a variety of quality levels and therefore price levels which makes comparisons very hard, from my experience "Art glass" can be whatever. The biggest problem with the Optimum acrylic and the good museum glas is that if you have it for one print the UV-glass on the other once will start nagging you and normal glass will be totally out of the question. So, stick with UV glass if possible, the Optimum is an insanely expensive habit that you cant back away from if you have tried it once But if its a local framer, just go down ad talk to them. Ask them to show you the different glass-types they have and the differences between them. Use the one that you feel you can trust the most, that looks serious and seem to make the best job. |
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dhokes
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Best framing option, by dhokes on May 2, 2017 21:42:38 GMT 1, I'm just wondering, does the Fine Art Trade Guild do mystery shopper tests? They should get mystery shoppers to purchase 'conservation' framing and then remove the framing to see if it's to conservation standards.
I'm just wondering, does the Fine Art Trade Guild do mystery shopper tests? They should get mystery shoppers to purchase 'conservation' framing and then remove the framing to see if it's to conservation standards.
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iamzero
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Best framing option, by iamzero on May 2, 2017 21:57:43 GMT 1, I would be very surprised. The framing forums got very upset when I'd opened up a print framed by a member and questioned how they had mounted the print. It appears very few framers are aware that places like this exist where people can be educated on how potentially valuable prints should be treated. Possibly not their fault as 95% of the work they see are low value items.
I would be very surprised. The framing forums got very upset when I'd opened up a print framed by a member and questioned how they had mounted the print. It appears very few framers are aware that places like this exist where people can be educated on how potentially valuable prints should be treated. Possibly not their fault as 95% of the work they see are low value items.
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dhokes
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Best framing option, by dhokes on May 2, 2017 22:20:52 GMT 1, My point being that if you pay for 'conservation' framing, it should be and framers shouldn't frame it to a lower standard in the hope that the frame won't be removed. Are they held accountable by the guild like other professions and the associated bodies e.g. medics and the General Medical Council?
My point being that if you pay for 'conservation' framing, it should be and framers shouldn't frame it to a lower standard in the hope that the frame won't be removed. Are they held accountable by the guild like other professions and the associated bodies e.g. medics and the General Medical Council?
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