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Hmp news, by Ruggs on Aug 1, 2013 9:58:27 GMT 1, Mr Lundgren is really dividing peoples opinion at the moment but for me he's no different to any other urban artist out there right now including Banksy. Some work is good, some work is average and some not great. Dolk seems a bit Marmite, you either love him or hate him, no in-between. One thing though he really has stood the test of time. 'Puppy Love' and 'Burger King' seem along time ago now and like it or not his stock is rapidly rising. I promise you if he did a solo UK gig anytime soon it would be massively popular. Really though, I don't care, if what he does appeals to me i'll buy if not i'll pass. Talking of his next release i'd like to see another two, maybe 'Spray' and/or 'Hang'.
Mr Lundgren is really dividing peoples opinion at the moment but for me he's no different to any other urban artist out there right now including Banksy. Some work is good, some work is average and some not great. Dolk seems a bit Marmite, you either love him or hate him, no in-between. One thing though he really has stood the test of time. 'Puppy Love' and 'Burger King' seem along time ago now and like it or not his stock is rapidly rising. I promise you if he did a solo UK gig anytime soon it would be massively popular. Really though, I don't care, if what he does appeals to me i'll buy if not i'll pass. Talking of his next release i'd like to see another two, maybe 'Spray' and/or 'Hang'.
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Hmp news, by Deleted on Aug 1, 2013 10:04:13 GMT 1, Hey I only said hmp are working on a new print !!!
Ha ha ha hey how did we get into this!!!
Hey I only said hmp are working on a new print !!! Ha ha ha hey how did we get into this!!!
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Hmp news, by graffuturism on Aug 1, 2013 11:10:02 GMT 1, I have not figured out the fascination with this artist within this forum either. I search the internet daily for art and artists updates, I can say that I am pretty familiar with most artists and besides this forum I dont see this artist being talked about at all.
When a new street piece is created, the image sweeps the globe and is, without a doubt, covered by any and all major blogs and sites dedicated to Street Art. Stencil Artists come from different culture to graff and it's not all about being "up" or bombing or the need to be constantly hitting the streets, because of the nature of their work, most tend to work out of their studio. Particularly if they've paid their dues are over 30 and have families. Also, stencil art tends to remain on the streets a LOT longer than graff, years and years in the cases of artists at Dolk's level. So the need to be constantly "up" is diminished.
When I speak about art I donโt speak about it from a graffiti aspect regardless of my background. I donโt talk from a street art background either and I unfortunately can only use the term Urban art as like your street artists I am also in this next generation of artists who have moved on From graffiti. This doesnโt mean that I donโt still paint walls or make an attempt to paint art in the street. This next phase of life for most us involves mostly studio work and as many murals or walls as we can without getting into much trouble as yes we also have families as well. So trying to differentiate graffiti from street art is correct as a generalization but does not cover my circumstances and most of the artists that I feature. This new which is a really old genre is something that actually acts more like street art than you might think. Minus the stencil, add some masking tape and you get the picture. Also being Up isnt what I would say, maybe Active is a better term for us old men.
You would think that someone who has a very similar style as an original like banksy would get slack for resembling him so much, but its the opposite atleast in here.
Banksy signed Dolk to pictures on walls in 2005, stencil art, by it's nature, can look "similar" in style to the uninitiated, but 99% of those involved in the culture can tell a Dolk from a Banksy from a Whatson from a Hicks etc etc. I'm sure to the uninitiated, that Graffiti pretty much all looks the same. Dolk's techniques, on canvas and the street, are very different to Banksy, and though the themes may seem similar, there's a much darker, more introverted and existential side to Dolk's work that's far less "political" or "propaganda like" than for example Banksy. To the uninitiated, all stencil's looks the same, all graffiti looks the same, all techno sounds the same.
This is true and in most cases correct, yet I am part of the initiated as you might say. You dont have to paint stencils to be able to tell the difference between 2 different artist. I have seen enough street art and been around enough art in general to have an eye capable of seeing through the small nuances that can differentiate braque from picasso, banksy from Blek, or Delta from Zedz. I get your point but it doesnt work in my case. I can tell the difference from a dolk and a Banksy which is why I commented on it in the first place. There is always going to be as you state small similarities in work because of the medium. A stencil has a distinct mark yet so many others are able to establish a true mark with it such as swoon, shephard fairey, nick walker, c215, logan hicks and so on. The tool is not an excuse for subject matter and overall aesthetic. If Banksy was more of a mentor to Dolk and passed along some of his style than that is a different story. I didnt know this was the case other than that he released a print at POW in 2005. If Banksy signed him then that could lead to some sort of mentorship or atleast acknowledgement from Banksy. He also gave a nod to another artist as well but in a much bigger way correct? MBW. I can clearly see that Dolk is no MBW and does have a knack for creating an image. Yet that image is diluted in my opinion by his reliance on Banksy's style. This is my opinion and although you can argue with me about it Its not going to change. Dolk seems talented enough why the reliance on already taken style. I dont think all graffiti looks the same as I dont think all stencils look the same, techno you might have a point.
It shows the power and demand for banksy is so high that all one has to do is make a decent copy of his work and you as well can sell prints for more money than 90% of other well established street artists.
It's not always about the money hey ? I'm presuming you're including "writers" in that 90% ? because most well established street artists are generally doing fine. It's a common gripe from writers and those businesses associated with graffiti culture that "why should these guys get paid when we've been here pounding the streets and paying dues since the 90's" which is insane considering that Graffiti is a global multi million dollar industry. If people are not getting paid, they need to look to their "supporters" rather than being down on fellow artists and Street Art.
You again are stereotyping me and graffiti, the chip seems to be more on your should in this case than us graffiti writers holding a gripe. You seem to think that Graffiti is part of this debate or conversation. Its not, Graffiti has nothing to do with Dolk. I judged him by his work and what I see from him as an artist. Looking around and not seeing much work from him and so forth led me to a judgement that I made. Of course I could be wrong as I am not a Dolk expert but I do have confidence enough to speak on it publicly. There were bad signs that I picked up on and I know you see the same signs in other peoples work because I think you are very similar to me and have a good knowledge of this subject. I know Dolk was part of Nuart and showed with you in 2012 so I can understand the defensive stance. Yet I know regardless of affiliation you would be more than likely taking this stance because your knowledge of the artist. Unfortunately I dont have inside knowledge to judge him on and can only make a response based on how I would critique any artist regardless of where he was exhibited or what festival he was a part of. My post was not about tearing down Dolk not that I think I could with a critique it was to have a voice of opposition to troubling mentality of accepting banksy themed art to be worth anything greater than a copy.
I would agree with most of these points made above and say that to each their own I am sure if you are buying for appreciation nothing matters other than what you think. To the others buying to flip or wondering if this artist will be in fact the next rising star I would say unlikely. This forum and London can drive one artists price up for so long until people realize that what we have here is a perfect example of being in the right place at the right time.
Comparing this forum, or any print collectors forum with "art" is like comparing a watch collectors forum with "time". Collectors create their own markets, some of the artists will go on to cross over, build a long career and their fan base will grow, from Banksy to Barry McGee, this forum has championed them all. Others who over the long term, try to take advantage of our insecurities, values and minor bi polar disorders without giving back, will eventually suffer.
I disagree. People are buying Art here and if that is a print its still Art. I get your comparison but its incorrect because art although being the entity can also be something collected. When people show off their collections they say look at this piece of Art I bought even if its a print. This whole forum is based on Art.
I base my opinions on observations such as one he doesnt paint as much as you would like to see someone who is supposed to be the next big thing. Artists that continue to work in the street tend to more genuine and dedicated over the longrun. You can tell alot about an artist about how hard he works and that could also mean in the studio and streets.
Dolk is not supposed to be the next big thing, most here have been following and supporting him for 10 years with zero expectations, this little price blip simply happened because he produced some street work that resonated and his fan base expanded driving up demand and hence prices. The "next big thing" is generally one of the non street artists on here with professional PR, Artist management and Gallery representation. It's rarely one of the little guys. Dolk paints every day.
Your correct as he has been around a bit for a street artist atleast. Us graffiti artists paved the way 40 years with blood sweat and tears haha, Im kidding but Im sure you would think I was going to say that. He might be one of the good guys you would know more than me as you are more of a source on the subject and I respect your word on the subject. But that doesnโt mean I donโt back my stance on his work.
To me dropping prints is an afterthought to an artist that is really accomplishing a real body of work. Second now that this artist is in this position with a style that everyone can see resembles banksy what is he doing to create his own genuine identity. Artists can evolve and those that do usually will show themselves to be more inclined for long term success IMO.Even if this new style distnaces himself from his collectors. One its not his style in the first place and two I would like to see what his hand or mark looks like. What does a Dolk look like? 3rd his market has been established in one country or area mostly and if you are paying as much as you are paying for his prints wouldnt you like to know that it wasnt a local phenonem. I dont see him getting any appreciation around the world. This is not a direct attack on Dolk as much as it is a direct comment on most the artists I see in this forum being collected for what In my opinion are wrong reasons. The one reason that doesnt matter is that you love the image or work, that I cannot argue against what one likes is what one likes.
You can pick a secondary market Dolk print up for as little as $3-400, not an insane amount of cash i'm sure you'll agree. 1. His fan base is international. 2. It is his style, you just don't see it 3. His market was established in the UK with Banksy's help, recently expanded into his home country which has a solid and expanding economy hence the price hikes, Norwegians can and in a lot of cases, expect to pay far more than EU buyers. This will either grow, or settle down. 4. To collectors, of anything, like it or not, price, rarity, desirability etc etc, are very important attributes.You have to remember, this is first and foremost a "collectors" forum.
This is all new information to me so consider me updated. 3-400 is not bad for a print you are correct but I dont see many being sold in here that cheap. Being a โcollectors forumโ doesnt mean that we cant talk about art or be critical of artists.
This is an attempt to show you some of the thinking that I take into looking at an artist when doing features or choosing to exhibit or buy. Its important to look past the superficial if you really want to guess where an artists might end up say in 5-10 years.
This argument may have worked with Grafter, Eelus or a newcomer, but Dolk ? Just out of curiousity, who are you collecting that you think may "end up" somewhere in 5-10 years ? This board has championed quite a few artists that now appear regularly in contemporary art museums around the world.
I can no longer afford my contemporaries they have all gone on to crossing over as you might say. I do my best to collect from my peers that are currently painting too many to mention. I posted some recent framed pieces in the art recently purchase thread under my real Name as most know the difference. I am not questioning who the board collects or its track history, I cannot help but comment on its current state and stable of artists that seem to be making news. Many who I have never heard of by the way and the reason why we are having this conversation.
Apologize to Dolk for using him as an example but figured it was fair game he is raking it in regardless not sure he would care.
Again, this seems to be your prevailing criticism, that some artists are making a living, whilst in your eyes, some (abstract) artists are not ? Of course Dolk would care about criticism of his work, who wouldn't, artists are sensitive about s**t like that, that's why they're artists for the most. "Raking it in" isn't important to 99% of artists, no artist I know set out to make art to make money, as you know, they do it because it's in them, and they had the balls to take an alternative route to happiness than a 9 to 5.
Again you seem to look for an underlying motive of either being a graffiti artist or abstract being a agenda. My criticism is based on my personal taste with my personal knowledge being around the scene for 23 years and my understanding and studying of art, as well as being an artist. I champion abstract and figurative or representational both. I do have my own personal eye for what I like and like I said it involves a deeper conversation than an initial image. I run a blog and for me If I dont do some small research or know enough about an artist I need to look for some information in order to make some small judgment calls and make sure this artist isnt representing something there not. It involves some curating, I am not saying that I am some art scholar but I do actually have criteria before I post work from an artist. I get hundreds of emails and submissions from artists wanting to be featured yet they all dont get featured. I am not perfect and make mistakes as much as the next guy, but by not knowing some history of certain artists especially when showing international artists could prove a mistake. There are always pioneers and sometimes talented younger artists are able to copy their style without any real history of it being there own. Some of these artists do it better than the original artists, yet in my eyes you have to make a judgement call. Did the artist bring enough of his own into the work even when influenced. When an artists work is posted on a site along the likes of other top level peers there is a sense of legitimacy established. We need to make sure the right guys are getting acknowledged not the PR branded or social stars. Whether its stencil art or abstract the same rules apply. Painting with a stencil, brush, or with masking tape doesnt mean anything its just another tool to create an image. Artists are sensitive yes, but Dolk has to be pretty used to dealing with criticism due to his choice of style, it comes with the territory. I never said it was Dolk's agenda to rake in money I dont know the guy. I said he shouldnt mind he was on the winning end of all this as money might not be the goal but its a good consolation prize for being attacked as he was in my initial post. If you can call it that. You are correct the real artists out there are not worried about money or fame but we're all not saints either. It does take guts to paint and put it out there to the public and be judged but we all knew this going in I dont feel sorry for artists or blame successful artists. Some people are better at some things than others, yet the good work will always find its way to the top over time and the bad will always find its way to the bottom. Yet if they get to big to fail then all bets are off. Interesting you mention a 9-5 as I know you are game for a good article. Here is link to a good article that talks about that subject and maybe calm the thread down a bit.
www.e-flux.com/journal/art-without-market-art-without-education-political-economy-of-art/
Read more: urbanartassociation.com/thread/108015/hmp-news?page=2##ixzz2ahdBB1ig
I have not figured out the fascination with this artist within this forum either. I search the internet daily for art and artists updates, I can say that I am pretty familiar with most artists and besides this forum I dont see this artist being talked about at all. When a new street piece is created, the image sweeps the globe and is, without a doubt, covered by any and all major blogs and sites dedicated to Street Art. Stencil Artists come from different culture to graff and it's not all about being "up" or bombing or the need to be constantly hitting the streets, because of the nature of their work, most tend to work out of their studio. Particularly if they've paid their dues are over 30 and have families. Also, stencil art tends to remain on the streets a LOT longer than graff, years and years in the cases of artists at Dolk's level. So the need to be constantly "up" is diminished.When I speak about art I donโt speak about it from a graffiti aspect regardless of my background. I donโt talk from a street art background either and I unfortunately can only use the term Urban art as like your street artists I am also in this next generation of artists who have moved on From graffiti. This doesnโt mean that I donโt still paint walls or make an attempt to paint art in the street. This next phase of life for most us involves mostly studio work and as many murals or walls as we can without getting into much trouble as yes we also have families as well. So trying to differentiate graffiti from street art is correct as a generalization but does not cover my circumstances and most of the artists that I feature. This new which is a really old genre is something that actually acts more like street art than you might think. Minus the stencil, add some masking tape and you get the picture. Also being Up isnt what I would say, maybe Active is a better term for us old men. You would think that someone who has a very similar style as an original like banksy would get slack for resembling him so much, but its the opposite atleast in here. Banksy signed Dolk to pictures on walls in 2005, stencil art, by it's nature, can look "similar" in style to the uninitiated, but 99% of those involved in the culture can tell a Dolk from a Banksy from a Whatson from a Hicks etc etc. I'm sure to the uninitiated, that Graffiti pretty much all looks the same. Dolk's techniques, on canvas and the street, are very different to Banksy, and though the themes may seem similar, there's a much darker, more introverted and existential side to Dolk's work that's far less "political" or "propaganda like" than for example Banksy. To the uninitiated, all stencil's looks the same, all graffiti looks the same, all techno sounds the same.This is true and in most cases correct, yet I am part of the initiated as you might say. You dont have to paint stencils to be able to tell the difference between 2 different artist. I have seen enough street art and been around enough art in general to have an eye capable of seeing through the small nuances that can differentiate braque from picasso, banksy from Blek, or Delta from Zedz. I get your point but it doesnt work in my case. I can tell the difference from a dolk and a Banksy which is why I commented on it in the first place. There is always going to be as you state small similarities in work because of the medium. A stencil has a distinct mark yet so many others are able to establish a true mark with it such as swoon, shephard fairey, nick walker, c215, logan hicks and so on. The tool is not an excuse for subject matter and overall aesthetic. If Banksy was more of a mentor to Dolk and passed along some of his style than that is a different story. I didnt know this was the case other than that he released a print at POW in 2005. If Banksy signed him then that could lead to some sort of mentorship or atleast acknowledgement from Banksy. He also gave a nod to another artist as well but in a much bigger way correct? MBW. I can clearly see that Dolk is no MBW and does have a knack for creating an image. Yet that image is diluted in my opinion by his reliance on Banksy's style. This is my opinion and although you can argue with me about it Its not going to change. Dolk seems talented enough why the reliance on already taken style. I dont think all graffiti looks the same as I dont think all stencils look the same, techno you might have a point. It shows the power and demand for banksy is so high that all one has to do is make a decent copy of his work and you as well can sell prints for more money than 90% of other well established street artists. It's not always about the money hey ? I'm presuming you're including "writers" in that 90% ? because most well established street artists are generally doing fine. It's a common gripe from writers and those businesses associated with graffiti culture that "why should these guys get paid when we've been here pounding the streets and paying dues since the 90's" which is insane considering that Graffiti is a global multi million dollar industry. If people are not getting paid, they need to look to their "supporters" rather than being down on fellow artists and Street Art.You again are stereotyping me and graffiti, the chip seems to be more on your should in this case than us graffiti writers holding a gripe. You seem to think that Graffiti is part of this debate or conversation. Its not, Graffiti has nothing to do with Dolk. I judged him by his work and what I see from him as an artist. Looking around and not seeing much work from him and so forth led me to a judgement that I made. Of course I could be wrong as I am not a Dolk expert but I do have confidence enough to speak on it publicly. There were bad signs that I picked up on and I know you see the same signs in other peoples work because I think you are very similar to me and have a good knowledge of this subject. I know Dolk was part of Nuart and showed with you in 2012 so I can understand the defensive stance. Yet I know regardless of affiliation you would be more than likely taking this stance because your knowledge of the artist. Unfortunately I dont have inside knowledge to judge him on and can only make a response based on how I would critique any artist regardless of where he was exhibited or what festival he was a part of. My post was not about tearing down Dolk not that I think I could with a critique it was to have a voice of opposition to troubling mentality of accepting banksy themed art to be worth anything greater than a copy. I would agree with most of these points made above and say that to each their own I am sure if you are buying for appreciation nothing matters other than what you think. To the others buying to flip or wondering if this artist will be in fact the next rising star I would say unlikely. This forum and London can drive one artists price up for so long until people realize that what we have here is a perfect example of being in the right place at the right time. Comparing this forum, or any print collectors forum with "art" is like comparing a watch collectors forum with "time". Collectors create their own markets, some of the artists will go on to cross over, build a long career and their fan base will grow, from Banksy to Barry McGee, this forum has championed them all. Others who over the long term, try to take advantage of our insecurities, values and minor bi polar disorders without giving back, will eventually suffer. I disagree. People are buying Art here and if that is a print its still Art. I get your comparison but its incorrect because art although being the entity can also be something collected. When people show off their collections they say look at this piece of Art I bought even if its a print. This whole forum is based on Art. I base my opinions on observations such as one he doesnt paint as much as you would like to see someone who is supposed to be the next big thing. Artists that continue to work in the street tend to more genuine and dedicated over the longrun. You can tell alot about an artist about how hard he works and that could also mean in the studio and streets. Dolk is not supposed to be the next big thing, most here have been following and supporting him for 10 years with zero expectations, this little price blip simply happened because he produced some street work that resonated and his fan base expanded driving up demand and hence prices. The "next big thing" is generally one of the non street artists on here with professional PR, Artist management and Gallery representation. It's rarely one of the little guys. Dolk paints every day.Your correct as he has been around a bit for a street artist atleast. Us graffiti artists paved the way 40 years with blood sweat and tears haha, Im kidding but Im sure you would think I was going to say that. He might be one of the good guys you would know more than me as you are more of a source on the subject and I respect your word on the subject. But that doesnโt mean I donโt back my stance on his work.
To me dropping prints is an afterthought to an artist that is really accomplishing a real body of work. Second now that this artist is in this position with a style that everyone can see resembles banksy what is he doing to create his own genuine identity. Artists can evolve and those that do usually will show themselves to be more inclined for long term success IMO.Even if this new style distnaces himself from his collectors. One its not his style in the first place and two I would like to see what his hand or mark looks like. What does a Dolk look like? 3rd his market has been established in one country or area mostly and if you are paying as much as you are paying for his prints wouldnt you like to know that it wasnt a local phenonem. I dont see him getting any appreciation around the world. This is not a direct attack on Dolk as much as it is a direct comment on most the artists I see in this forum being collected for what In my opinion are wrong reasons. The one reason that doesnt matter is that you love the image or work, that I cannot argue against what one likes is what one likes. You can pick a secondary market Dolk print up for as little as $3-400, not an insane amount of cash i'm sure you'll agree. 1. His fan base is international. 2. It is his style, you just don't see it 3. His market was established in the UK with Banksy's help, recently expanded into his home country which has a solid and expanding economy hence the price hikes, Norwegians can and in a lot of cases, expect to pay far more than EU buyers. This will either grow, or settle down. 4. To collectors, of anything, like it or not, price, rarity, desirability etc etc, are very important attributes.You have to remember, this is first and foremost a "collectors" forum.This is all new information to me so consider me updated. 3-400 is not bad for a print you are correct but I dont see many being sold in here that cheap. Being a โcollectors forumโ doesnt mean that we cant talk about art or be critical of artists. This is an attempt to show you some of the thinking that I take into looking at an artist when doing features or choosing to exhibit or buy. Its important to look past the superficial if you really want to guess where an artists might end up say in 5-10 years. This argument may have worked with Grafter, Eelus or a newcomer, but Dolk ? Just out of curiousity, who are you collecting that you think may "end up" somewhere in 5-10 years ? This board has championed quite a few artists that now appear regularly in contemporary art museums around the world. I can no longer afford my contemporaries they have all gone on to crossing over as you might say. I do my best to collect from my peers that are currently painting too many to mention. I posted some recent framed pieces in the art recently purchase thread under my real Name as most know the difference. I am not questioning who the board collects or its track history, I cannot help but comment on its current state and stable of artists that seem to be making news. Many who I have never heard of by the way and the reason why we are having this conversation. Apologize to Dolk for using him as an example but figured it was fair game he is raking it in regardless not sure he would care. Again, this seems to be your prevailing criticism, that some artists are making a living, whilst in your eyes, some (abstract) artists are not ? Of course Dolk would care about criticism of his work, who wouldn't, artists are sensitive about s**t like that, that's why they're artists for the most. "Raking it in" isn't important to 99% of artists, no artist I know set out to make art to make money, as you know, they do it because it's in them, and they had the balls to take an alternative route to happiness than a 9 to 5. Again you seem to look for an underlying motive of either being a graffiti artist or abstract being a agenda. My criticism is based on my personal taste with my personal knowledge being around the scene for 23 years and my understanding and studying of art, as well as being an artist. I champion abstract and figurative or representational both. I do have my own personal eye for what I like and like I said it involves a deeper conversation than an initial image. I run a blog and for me If I dont do some small research or know enough about an artist I need to look for some information in order to make some small judgment calls and make sure this artist isnt representing something there not. It involves some curating, I am not saying that I am some art scholar but I do actually have criteria before I post work from an artist. I get hundreds of emails and submissions from artists wanting to be featured yet they all dont get featured. I am not perfect and make mistakes as much as the next guy, but by not knowing some history of certain artists especially when showing international artists could prove a mistake. There are always pioneers and sometimes talented younger artists are able to copy their style without any real history of it being there own. Some of these artists do it better than the original artists, yet in my eyes you have to make a judgement call. Did the artist bring enough of his own into the work even when influenced. When an artists work is posted on a site along the likes of other top level peers there is a sense of legitimacy established. We need to make sure the right guys are getting acknowledged not the PR branded or social stars. Whether its stencil art or abstract the same rules apply. Painting with a stencil, brush, or with masking tape doesnt mean anything its just another tool to create an image. Artists are sensitive yes, but Dolk has to be pretty used to dealing with criticism due to his choice of style, it comes with the territory. I never said it was Dolk's agenda to rake in money I dont know the guy. I said he shouldnt mind he was on the winning end of all this as money might not be the goal but its a good consolation prize for being attacked as he was in my initial post. If you can call it that. You are correct the real artists out there are not worried about money or fame but we're all not saints either. It does take guts to paint and put it out there to the public and be judged but we all knew this going in I dont feel sorry for artists or blame successful artists. Some people are better at some things than others, yet the good work will always find its way to the top over time and the bad will always find its way to the bottom. Yet if they get to big to fail then all bets are off. Interesting you mention a 9-5 as I know you are game for a good article. Here is link to a good article that talks about that subject and maybe calm the thread down a bit.www.e-flux.com/journal/art-without-market-art-without-education-political-economy-of-art/Read more: urbanartassociation.com/thread/108015/hmp-news?page=2##ixzz2ahdBB1ig
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Hmp news, by Unlawful Art on Aug 1, 2013 11:23:32 GMT 1, Hoping for this classic og something completely new I love this image - but not sure if it would work as a print. I like the messiness and drippiness of this one, the print might be a bit too clean-cut.
Hoping for this classic og something completely new I love this image - but not sure if it would work as a print. I like the messiness and drippiness of this one, the print might be a bit too clean-cut.
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Hmp news, by Deleted on Aug 1, 2013 12:48:57 GMT 1, cheers Graffuturism and co. Great to see some passionate debate on the topics we all hold dear. Hope nothing I said was taken too personally, generally just thinking out loud and know how hard Dolk works. I honestly don't have a firm stance on graff v's stencil v's street v's modern and contemporary etc. Find it all equally fascinating and inspiring, dull and boring, simple and complex at the same time, as long as we keep an open mind hey. Realise I can come off as overly opinionated, but always happy to hear and take on opposing views. Still learning. Thank god.
cheers Graffuturism and co. Great to see some passionate debate on the topics we all hold dear. Hope nothing I said was taken too personally, generally just thinking out loud and know how hard Dolk works. I honestly don't have a firm stance on graff v's stencil v's street v's modern and contemporary etc. Find it all equally fascinating and inspiring, dull and boring, simple and complex at the same time, as long as we keep an open mind hey. Realise I can come off as overly opinionated, but always happy to hear and take on opposing views. Still learning. Thank god.
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Hmp news, by Coach on Aug 1, 2013 22:07:26 GMT 1, I find Dolk's work rather hit and miss. But when it's good, I think it's really good. But when it's a miss, I tend to think it's really bad. Hits - che, grenade lovers, punk, kitty, girl with teddy, police line and a few others I cant think of right now. Miss - evolution, crown, pope, pig, balaclava, mushroom girl. The good ones really are fabulous. I just loved the grenade lovers canvas posted on here recently, and girl with teddy is one of my favorite prints that I dont own. I did wonder whether some of the others were maybe rushed images, but I guess not, because others on here love them, and they sell out immediatley, and become WTB prints. Bottom line, its all a question of personal taste, and for me its (good) hit or (bad) miss. But i am very pleased for him regarding his success. It seems to me that he's put the years of graft in to get to where he is now. c
I find Dolk's work rather hit and miss. But when it's good, I think it's really good. But when it's a miss, I tend to think it's really bad. Hits - che, grenade lovers, punk, kitty, girl with teddy, police line and a few others I cant think of right now. Miss - evolution, crown, pope, pig, balaclava, mushroom girl. The good ones really are fabulous. I just loved the grenade lovers canvas posted on here recently, and girl with teddy is one of my favorite prints that I dont own. I did wonder whether some of the others were maybe rushed images, but I guess not, because others on here love them, and they sell out immediatley, and become WTB prints. Bottom line, its all a question of personal taste, and for me its (good) hit or (bad) miss. But i am very pleased for him regarding his success. It seems to me that he's put the years of graft in to get to where he is now. c
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Hmp news, by Deleted on Aug 2, 2013 9:34:05 GMT 1, seriously graf could you please write shorter posts and also just write a reply rather than all the coloured lettering etc, it's next to impossible to read on a phone
seriously graf could you please write shorter posts and also just write a reply rather than all the coloured lettering etc, it's next to impossible to read on a phone
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Hmp news, by graffuturism on Aug 2, 2013 10:50:03 GMT 1, Would you rather have one line insults.
I think I have met my quota though for awhile, ill leave you guys at peace
Would you rather have one line insults.
I think I have met my quota though for awhile, ill leave you guys at peace
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Hmp news, by Deleted on Aug 2, 2013 10:53:33 GMT 1, errr no that was a request to be able to give your posts due consideration
errr no that was a request to be able to give your posts due consideration
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graffuturism
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Hmp news, by graffuturism on Aug 2, 2013 10:58:40 GMT 1, errr no that was a request to be able to give your posts due consideration I get it,I'm on my phone now and it looks like a mess.The colors I think was an impromptu debate format between me and nuart. Wasn't considering the mobile. I'm still learning.
errr no that was a request to be able to give your posts due consideration I get it,I'm on my phone now and it looks like a mess.The colors I think was an impromptu debate format between me and nuart. Wasn't considering the mobile. I'm still learning.
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Hmp news, by phage on Aug 2, 2013 11:06:21 GMT 1, yay!
yay!
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Hmp news, by Feral Things on Aug 2, 2013 14:21:34 GMT 1, I think I have met my quota though for awhile, ill leave you guys at peace Thanks for the posts, graffuturism and @martedanielsen. Your posts on this thread and the rep. art v non-rep.art thread have been some of the most interesting I've read in a long time, so I hope they're not the last for a while.
I think I have met my quota though for awhile, ill leave you guys at peace Thanks for the posts, graffuturism and @martedanielsen. Your posts on this thread and the rep. art v non-rep.art thread have been some of the most interesting I've read in a long time, so I hope they're not the last for a while.
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