cmodart
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Good investment?, by cmodart on Nov 22, 2014 13:51:41 GMT 1, Where's the suggestion box? We should have a thumbs down button for some comments. Talking about my comments in this thread? Just quote my post and add "-1" And i know what's up -1, +10
Where's the suggestion box? We should have a thumbs down button for some comments. Talking about my comments in this thread? Just quote my post and add "-1" And i know what's up -1, +10
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Good investment?, by Limited Prints on Nov 22, 2014 13:52:25 GMT 1, And a friend of mine has a saying about investing in art which i would like to share with you fellas : "Always invest in investments which will go up!" Agreed.......like wise...... Never invest in investments that go down....
And a friend of mine has a saying about investing in art which i would like to share with you fellas : "Always invest in investments which will go up!" Agreed.......like wise...... Never invest in investments that go down....
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iamzero
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Good investment?, by iamzero on Nov 22, 2014 13:55:37 GMT 1, Not at all Json. I just don't agree with encouraging people to come on here looking for advice in how to screw art fans out of pieces that they've been longing for to hang on a wall while so they can come along and push up prices and brag about owning Banksy pieces at the golf club as part of their retirement fund. FTW. Go and by a Monet or wine or shares in GSK or whatever the hell it is you idiots do. Just leave us to our thing you parasites..
Not at all Json. I just don't agree with encouraging people to come on here looking for advice in how to screw art fans out of pieces that they've been longing for to hang on a wall while so they can come along and push up prices and brag about owning Banksy pieces at the golf club as part of their retirement fund. FTW. Go and by a Monet or wine or shares in GSK or whatever the hell it is you idiots do. Just leave us to our thing you parasites..
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Good investment?, by iamzero on Nov 22, 2014 13:58:00 GMT 1, And a friend of mine has a saying about investing in art which i would like to share with you fellas : "Always invest in investments which will go up!" Agreed.......like wise...... Never invest in investments that go down....
Not unless she's Eastern European and you can sniff toot from her tatty bojangles.
And a friend of mine has a saying about investing in art which i would like to share with you fellas : "Always invest in investments which will go up!" Agreed.......like wise...... Never invest in investments that go down....
Not unless she's Eastern European and you can sniff toot from her tatty bojangles.
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Good investment?, by Limited Prints on Nov 22, 2014 14:03:03 GMT 1, Agreed.......like wise...... Never invest in investments that go down....
Not unless she's Eastern European and you can sniff toot from her tatty bojangles. Defo agree with that !!!!!
Agreed.......like wise...... Never invest in investments that go down....
Not unless she's Eastern European and you can sniff toot from her tatty bojangles. Defo agree with that !!!!!
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Good investment?, by Galleri MDA on Nov 22, 2014 14:07:43 GMT 1, iamzero, please elaborate on how someone is screwing art fans by coming here asking for advice? I would suggest that with that mentality of yours, you should move to Uganda and run for president, next stop for you should be Dictator iamzero, so that you can single-handedly decide for other people what they are allowed to do an most importantly what they are not allowed to do.
iamzero, please elaborate on how someone is screwing art fans by coming here asking for advice? I would suggest that with that mentality of yours, you should move to Uganda and run for president, next stop for you should be Dictator iamzero, so that you can single-handedly decide for other people what they are allowed to do an most importantly what they are not allowed to do.
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Good investment?, by Galleri MDA on Nov 22, 2014 14:10:30 GMT 1, No offence smokey, but with โฌ1000 to spend he wont be raising any prices soon so relax
No offence smokey, but with โฌ1000 to spend he wont be raising any prices soon so relax
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cmodart
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Good investment?, by cmodart on Nov 22, 2014 14:34:58 GMT 1, Not at all Json. I just don't agree with encouraging people to come on here looking for advice in how to screw art fans out of pieces that they've been longing for to hang on a wall while so they can come along and push up prices and brag about owning Banksy pieces at the golf club as part of their retirement fund. FTW. Go and by a Monet or wine or shares in GSK or whatever the hell it is you idiots do. Just leave us to our thing you parasites.. Moan. Piss. Moan. Get over it.
Not at all Json. I just don't agree with encouraging people to come on here looking for advice in how to screw art fans out of pieces that they've been longing for to hang on a wall while so they can come along and push up prices and brag about owning Banksy pieces at the golf club as part of their retirement fund. FTW. Go and by a Monet or wine or shares in GSK or whatever the hell it is you idiots do. Just leave us to our thing you parasites.. Moan. Piss. Moan. Get over it.
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Good investment?, by iamzero on Nov 22, 2014 14:41:27 GMT 1, Same advice as ever. Buy what you like to look at and not what might make you money. Not a personal attack on the OP. And as for you Christian my little crusader, the only thing worse than someone with an opinion is someone else that tries to shout down that opinion by branding people as facists and turning it personal. Yes that's you.
The reason its damaging comes from my and possibly others experience of buying art. Huge Banksy fan for years but didn't realise about buying prints until late and couldn't justify spending ยฃ1k + on signed paper. By the time I'd figured out how it works they were ยฃ2k. So I saved my hard earned cash to get one, but by then art investors had jumped on board and pretty much overnight pushed prices way beyond my reach. So yes bitter by the fact that people with easy disposable income that don't really know what they are buying can screw over others that are passionate about the imagery and what it means to them. I can deal with that because it's thecway of the world but don't expect a helping hand in doing that by asking for advice.
Hope that helps. Nothing personal dude and again sorry for your loss.
Same advice as ever. Buy what you like to look at and not what might make you money. Not a personal attack on the OP. And as for you Christian my little crusader, the only thing worse than someone with an opinion is someone else that tries to shout down that opinion by branding people as facists and turning it personal. Yes that's you.
The reason its damaging comes from my and possibly others experience of buying art. Huge Banksy fan for years but didn't realise about buying prints until late and couldn't justify spending ยฃ1k + on signed paper. By the time I'd figured out how it works they were ยฃ2k. So I saved my hard earned cash to get one, but by then art investors had jumped on board and pretty much overnight pushed prices way beyond my reach. So yes bitter by the fact that people with easy disposable income that don't really know what they are buying can screw over others that are passionate about the imagery and what it means to them. I can deal with that because it's thecway of the world but don't expect a helping hand in doing that by asking for advice.
Hope that helps. Nothing personal dude and again sorry for your loss.
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Good investment?, by smokey on Nov 22, 2014 15:00:43 GMT 1, Not at all Json. I just don't agree with encouraging people to come on here looking for advice in how to screw art fans out of pieces that they've been longing for to hang on a wall while so they can come along and push up prices and brag about owning Banksy pieces at the golf club as part of their retirement fund. FTW. Go and by a Monet or wine or shares in GSK or whatever the hell it is you idiots do. Just leave us to our thing you parasites.. Just to clarify I am in no way looking to flip anything. If that was the case I'd have tried my luck @ getting the Chevrier small prints & had them on eBay attempting to get $500 per print. Everything I've bought, unless it came from the artist, was on the 2nd hand market. And I'm not looking to make her money in a month by turning it over. I've been on here long enough to A. Know that it's full of art lovers and B. That from time to time these same art lovers sell for various reasons, ie wall space, new purchase, new home, etc. That input on what you guys thought will hold it's value or even increas in a year or two was what i was asking. My personal next two purchases have been decided. One from the artist(Mobstr) & the other on the cheap on the 2nd hand market. More than likely from this forum. Neither will make me rich but like other things I've collected for pure enjoyment will be left to the Mrs to do as she pleases. Anyone know a forum ffor autographed baseball cards btw? Ha. And one of my future purchases after the holidays will hopefully be a 3D, which I know isn't at all hot but I appreciate his work. So to clear things up I'm in no way trying to take anything from anyone. And for the record I drink rum & have no patience for golf.
Not at all Json. I just don't agree with encouraging people to come on here looking for advice in how to screw art fans out of pieces that they've been longing for to hang on a wall while so they can come along and push up prices and brag about owning Banksy pieces at the golf club as part of their retirement fund. FTW. Go and by a Monet or wine or shares in GSK or whatever the hell it is you idiots do. Just leave us to our thing you parasites.. Just to clarify I am in no way looking to flip anything. If that was the case I'd have tried my luck @ getting the Chevrier small prints & had them on eBay attempting to get $500 per print. Everything I've bought, unless it came from the artist, was on the 2nd hand market. And I'm not looking to make her money in a month by turning it over. I've been on here long enough to A. Know that it's full of art lovers and B. That from time to time these same art lovers sell for various reasons, ie wall space, new purchase, new home, etc. That input on what you guys thought will hold it's value or even increas in a year or two was what i was asking. My personal next two purchases have been decided. One from the artist(Mobstr) & the other on the cheap on the 2nd hand market. More than likely from this forum. Neither will make me rich but like other things I've collected for pure enjoyment will be left to the Mrs to do as she pleases. Anyone know a forum ffor autographed baseball cards btw? Ha. And one of my future purchases after the holidays will hopefully be a 3D, which I know isn't at all hot but I appreciate his work. So to clear things up I'm in no way trying to take anything from anyone. And for the record I drink rum & have no patience for golf.
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Good investment?, by iamzero on Nov 22, 2014 15:14:30 GMT 1, Ooh I do like a bit of rum dude. I had a similar thing with my Dad wanting to buy something a couple of years back, he settled on a Peter Blake for ยฃ2k and the price shot up to ยฃ3k as he bought it. He loves that image and it makes him happy to look at it every day and that makes me smile too.
Ooh I do like a bit of rum dude. I had a similar thing with my Dad wanting to buy something a couple of years back, he settled on a Peter Blake for ยฃ2k and the price shot up to ยฃ3k as he bought it. He loves that image and it makes him happy to look at it every day and that makes me smile too.
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Good investment?, by gorkie on Nov 22, 2014 15:31:17 GMT 1, If I only had that amount to spend on a piece and had to put it into something it would be a Dran 100 Jours drawing. You might need a tad more than that though.
Good luck to you both!
If I only had that amount to spend on a piece and had to put it into something it would be a Dran 100 Jours drawing. You might need a tad more than that though.
Good luck to you both!
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Good investment?, by Gatoraide on Nov 22, 2014 16:11:52 GMT 1, Agree with Json. Buy Banksy, (full disclosure I own three) even though there are other amazing artists, its marketing( like warhol) with unprecedented print followup and authentication by pestcontrol that will protect your investment...
or like rest of us follow your heart....buy what you love and love what you buy!
Agree with Json. Buy Banksy, (full disclosure I own three) even though there are other amazing artists, its marketing( like warhol) with unprecedented print followup and authentication by pestcontrol that will protect your investment...
or like rest of us follow your heart....buy what you love and love what you buy!
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Good investment?, by Deleted on Nov 22, 2014 20:59:49 GMT 1, me .. I'd steer clear of every artist that you mentioned as an investment, and many more. Just because some people got very lucky financially does not mean that lightning will strike twice. When we look back at the 'must haves' of today in 20 years time, I suspect that a lot of them will look like ... well, erm ... how can I say it nicely? Even Banksy (who I admire for humour, placement & more) will not have the same hold in a few years if you ask me. His art is so 'now' (which is why it is great), rather than for all time. I am amazed at how high the prices for current art is in comparison with the best of the 20th century (outside of a few massive artists of that time). I say all this as a bit of an art addict ... I cannot help but want to have & to hold some of what I consider great. I truly love the art that I buy, it moves me, it fills me with pleasure to have it around me. I hope that it might hold its price, maybe even be worth more (when more people realise the skill & beauty of it), but only time will tell. I will enjoy it right now. I do think that Adam Neate maybe has something special (I own nothing of his, and have never actually seen anything close-up), and Guy Denning is a truly gifted artist, with heart, an important artist (I do own one or 2 things of his). I have a weakness for Sweet Toof too, but wouldn't buy it as an investment. If I had the money I might buy something really nice of Swoon's, but I haven't. Money problems of the kind that many dream of ... what to do with it all? ... I have some ideas, but they're not exactly mainstream! Great, considered reply.
I love Adam Neates work too. I popped along to Elms Lesters Painting rooms to have a look at some Neates in the flesh, they are stunning.
me .. I'd steer clear of every artist that you mentioned as an investment, and many more. Just because some people got very lucky financially does not mean that lightning will strike twice. When we look back at the 'must haves' of today in 20 years time, I suspect that a lot of them will look like ... well, erm ... how can I say it nicely? Even Banksy (who I admire for humour, placement & more) will not have the same hold in a few years if you ask me. His art is so 'now' (which is why it is great), rather than for all time. I am amazed at how high the prices for current art is in comparison with the best of the 20th century (outside of a few massive artists of that time). I say all this as a bit of an art addict ... I cannot help but want to have & to hold some of what I consider great. I truly love the art that I buy, it moves me, it fills me with pleasure to have it around me. I hope that it might hold its price, maybe even be worth more (when more people realise the skill & beauty of it), but only time will tell. I will enjoy it right now. I do think that Adam Neate maybe has something special (I own nothing of his, and have never actually seen anything close-up), and Guy Denning is a truly gifted artist, with heart, an important artist (I do own one or 2 things of his). I have a weakness for Sweet Toof too, but wouldn't buy it as an investment. If I had the money I might buy something really nice of Swoon's, but I haven't. Money problems of the kind that many dream of ... what to do with it all? ... I have some ideas, but they're not exactly mainstream! Great, considered reply. I love Adam Neates work too. I popped along to Elms Lesters Painting rooms to have a look at some Neates in the flesh, they are stunning.
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Good investment?, by Deleted on Nov 22, 2014 21:11:30 GMT 1, me .. I'd steer clear of every artist that you mentioned as an investment, and many more. Just because some people got very lucky financially does not mean that lightning will strike twice. When we look back at the 'must haves' of today in 20 years time, I suspect that a lot of them will look like ... well, erm ... how can I say it nicely? Even Banksy (who I admire for humour, placement & more) will not have the same hold in a few years if you ask me. His art is so 'now' (which is why it is great), rather than for all time. I am amazed at how high the prices for current art is in comparison with the best of the 20th century (outside of a few massive artists of that time). I say all this as a bit of an art addict ... I cannot help but want to have & to hold some of what I consider great. I truly love the art that I buy, it moves me, it fills me with pleasure to have it around me. I hope that it might hold its price, maybe even be worth more (when more people realise the skill & beauty of it), but only time will tell. I will enjoy it right now. I do think that Adam Neate maybe has something special (I own nothing of his, and have never actually seen anything close-up), and Guy Denning is a truly gifted artist, with heart, an important artist (I do own one or 2 things of his). I have a weakness for Sweet Toof too, but wouldn't buy it as an investment. If I had the money I might buy something really nice of Swoon's, but I haven't. Money problems of the kind that many dream of ... what to do with it all? ... I have some ideas, but they're not exactly mainstream! I couldnt disagree more on the banksy front with the greatest respect because a lot of what you said i do agree with, Banksy imo will in time and again imo has already cemented his place in art history, of course time will tell, in this genre he will always be top dog as warhol is and as dali is etc not because i sell it but because i believe it, just an opinion of course
me .. I'd steer clear of every artist that you mentioned as an investment, and many more. Just because some people got very lucky financially does not mean that lightning will strike twice. When we look back at the 'must haves' of today in 20 years time, I suspect that a lot of them will look like ... well, erm ... how can I say it nicely? Even Banksy (who I admire for humour, placement & more) will not have the same hold in a few years if you ask me. His art is so 'now' (which is why it is great), rather than for all time. I am amazed at how high the prices for current art is in comparison with the best of the 20th century (outside of a few massive artists of that time). I say all this as a bit of an art addict ... I cannot help but want to have & to hold some of what I consider great. I truly love the art that I buy, it moves me, it fills me with pleasure to have it around me. I hope that it might hold its price, maybe even be worth more (when more people realise the skill & beauty of it), but only time will tell. I will enjoy it right now. I do think that Adam Neate maybe has something special (I own nothing of his, and have never actually seen anything close-up), and Guy Denning is a truly gifted artist, with heart, an important artist (I do own one or 2 things of his). I have a weakness for Sweet Toof too, but wouldn't buy it as an investment. If I had the money I might buy something really nice of Swoon's, but I haven't. Money problems of the kind that many dream of ... what to do with it all? ... I have some ideas, but they're not exactly mainstream! I couldnt disagree more on the banksy front with the greatest respect because a lot of what you said i do agree with, Banksy imo will in time and again imo has already cemented his place in art history, of course time will tell, in this genre he will always be top dog as warhol is and as dali is etc not because i sell it but because i believe it, just an opinion of course
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Good investment?, by dotdot on Nov 22, 2014 21:28:35 GMT 1, Performance art collides with street art .. And what it "did/meant" in the early part of this century , discuss.
Could be the beginnings of a "paper" in a few years time once the dust/clutter dies down.
As for investment , most folks here started off with one idea and ended up with a different idea... From passing interest to junkie "dom", to collecting , perhaps for some... And many disappeared ..sold up and took the hit/money.. Hey ho.
And from followers to ... Gallerists .. for others.. Not to mention others who fell off the map for whatever reason.
...That could be a description of another movement , be that punk / glam / hippiedom of the late60s. ( some here collect from those times as well.. Once a collector ... )
There are many others who are in the scene now , as in the past , like the above ..some will grow some will shrink... Some will ape others.. Too
Performance art collides with street art .. And what it "did/meant" in the early part of this century , discuss. Could be the beginnings of a "paper" in a few years time once the dust/clutter dies down. As for investment , most folks here started off with one idea and ended up with a different idea... From passing interest to junkie "dom", to collecting , perhaps for some... And many disappeared ..sold up and took the hit/money.. Hey ho. And from followers to ... Gallerists .. for others.. Not to mention others who fell off the map for whatever reason. ...That could be a description of another movement , be that punk / glam / hippiedom of the late60s. ( some here collect from those times as well.. Once a collector ... ) There are many others who are in the scene now , as in the past , like the above ..some will grow some will shrink... Some will ape others.. Too
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Good investment?, by Harveyn on Nov 22, 2014 21:42:03 GMT 1, me .. I'd steer clear of every artist that you mentioned as an investment, and many more. Just because some people got very lucky financially does not mean that lightning will strike twice. When we look back at the 'must haves' of today in 20 years time, I suspect that a lot of them will look like ... well, erm ... how can I say it nicely? Even Banksy (who I admire for humour, placement & more) will not have the same hold in a few years if you ask me. His art is so 'now' (which is why it is great), rather than for all time. I am amazed at how high the prices for current art is in comparison with the best of the 20th century (outside of a few massive artists of that time). I say all this as a bit of an art addict ... I cannot help but want to have & to hold some of what I consider great. I truly love the art that I buy, it moves me, it fills me with pleasure to have it around me. I hope that it might hold its price, maybe even be worth more (when more people realise the skill & beauty of it), but only time will tell. I will enjoy it right now. I do think that Adam Neate maybe has something special (I own nothing of his, and have never actually seen anything close-up), and Guy Denning is a truly gifted artist, with heart, an important artist (I do own one or 2 things of his). I have a weakness for Sweet Toof too, but wouldn't buy it as an investment. If I had the money I might buy something really nice of Swoon's, but I haven't. Money problems of the kind that many dream of ... what to do with it all? ... I have some ideas, but they're not exactly mainstream! I couldnt disagree more on the banksy front with the greatest respect because a lot of what you said i do agree with, Banksy imo will in time and again imo has already cemented his place in art history, of course time will tell, in this genre he will always be top dog as warhol is and as dali is etc not because i sell it but because i believe it, just an opinion of course
Investment as ever is about entry and exit point. It can be a short term or long term speculation.
To be honest I would rather discuss the longevity of the current crop of urban artists with respect to this genre and the place it already has in art history. For me the greats of this genre have already written their names in large bold letters in the of history of art. From Keith Haring to Jean Michel Basquiat. In my opinion the modern day pretenders who will add to this legacy are Banksy, KAWS, OS Gemeos, Shepard Fairey and Barry McGee. All for different reasons but all because they tick so many boxes already.
me .. I'd steer clear of every artist that you mentioned as an investment, and many more. Just because some people got very lucky financially does not mean that lightning will strike twice. When we look back at the 'must haves' of today in 20 years time, I suspect that a lot of them will look like ... well, erm ... how can I say it nicely? Even Banksy (who I admire for humour, placement & more) will not have the same hold in a few years if you ask me. His art is so 'now' (which is why it is great), rather than for all time. I am amazed at how high the prices for current art is in comparison with the best of the 20th century (outside of a few massive artists of that time). I say all this as a bit of an art addict ... I cannot help but want to have & to hold some of what I consider great. I truly love the art that I buy, it moves me, it fills me with pleasure to have it around me. I hope that it might hold its price, maybe even be worth more (when more people realise the skill & beauty of it), but only time will tell. I will enjoy it right now. I do think that Adam Neate maybe has something special (I own nothing of his, and have never actually seen anything close-up), and Guy Denning is a truly gifted artist, with heart, an important artist (I do own one or 2 things of his). I have a weakness for Sweet Toof too, but wouldn't buy it as an investment. If I had the money I might buy something really nice of Swoon's, but I haven't. Money problems of the kind that many dream of ... what to do with it all? ... I have some ideas, but they're not exactly mainstream! I couldnt disagree more on the banksy front with the greatest respect because a lot of what you said i do agree with, Banksy imo will in time and again imo has already cemented his place in art history, of course time will tell, in this genre he will always be top dog as warhol is and as dali is etc not because i sell it but because i believe it, just an opinion of course
Investment as ever is about entry and exit point. It can be a short term or long term speculation.
To be honest I would rather discuss the longevity of the current crop of urban artists with respect to this genre and the place it already has in art history. For me the greats of this genre have already written their names in large bold letters in the of history of art. From Keith Haring to Jean Michel Basquiat. In my opinion the modern day pretenders who will add to this legacy are Banksy, KAWS, OS Gemeos, Shepard Fairey and Barry McGee. All for different reasons but all because they tick so many boxes already.
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Good investment?, by Deleted on Nov 22, 2014 21:52:48 GMT 1, I couldnt disagree more on the banksy front with the greatest respect because a lot of what you said i do agree with, Banksy imo will in time and again imo has already cemented his place in art history, of course time will tell, in this genre he will always be top dog as warhol is and as dali is etc not because i sell it but because i believe it, just an opinion of course
Investment as ever is about entry and exit point. It can be a short term or long term speculation.
To be honest I would rather discuss the longevity of the current crop of urban artists with respect to this genre and the place it already has in art history. For me the greats of this genre have already written their names in large bold letters in the of history of art. From Keith Haring to Jean Michel Basquiat. In my opinion the modern day pretenders who will add to this legacy are Banksy, KAWS, OS Gemeos, Shepard Fairey and Barry McGee. All for different reasons but all because they tick so many boxes already.
100% with those names. I think you'll see Mario Martinez fast approaching as well. Under the radar but selling very well in very high profile.
We need to think within reason of the original post though, and who is the up and comer for the next 10 years where you can invest in an original or potentially a print (I advise against that) for 1000.00 today. (is that pounds or dollars?)
I couldnt disagree more on the banksy front with the greatest respect because a lot of what you said i do agree with, Banksy imo will in time and again imo has already cemented his place in art history, of course time will tell, in this genre he will always be top dog as warhol is and as dali is etc not because i sell it but because i believe it, just an opinion of course
Investment as ever is about entry and exit point. It can be a short term or long term speculation.
To be honest I would rather discuss the longevity of the current crop of urban artists with respect to this genre and the place it already has in art history. For me the greats of this genre have already written their names in large bold letters in the of history of art. From Keith Haring to Jean Michel Basquiat. In my opinion the modern day pretenders who will add to this legacy are Banksy, KAWS, OS Gemeos, Shepard Fairey and Barry McGee. All for different reasons but all because they tick so many boxes already.
100% with those names. I think you'll see Mario Martinez fast approaching as well. Under the radar but selling very well in very high profile. We need to think within reason of the original post though, and who is the up and comer for the next 10 years where you can invest in an original or potentially a print (I advise against that) for 1000.00 today. (is that pounds or dollars?)
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Good investment?, by Deleted on Nov 22, 2014 22:19:25 GMT 1, I couldnt disagree more on the banksy front with the greatest respect because a lot of what you said i do agree with, Banksy imo will in time and again imo has already cemented his place in art history, of course time will tell, in this genre he will always be top dog as warhol is and as dali is etc not because i sell it but because i believe it, just an opinion of course
Investment as ever is about entry and exit point. It can be a short term or long term speculation.
To be honest I would rather discuss the longevity of the current crop of urban artists with respect to this genre and the place it already has in art history. For me the greats of this genre have already written their names in large bold letters in the of history of art. From Keith Haring to Jean Michel Basquiat. In my opinion the modern day pretenders who will add to this legacy are Banksy, KAWS, OS Gemeos, Shepard Fairey and Barry McGee. All for different reasons but all because they tick so many boxes already.
Stuff art, Ireland Ireland together standing strong!!!! What a great match from start to finish, get the bros on its celebration time lol
I couldnt disagree more on the banksy front with the greatest respect because a lot of what you said i do agree with, Banksy imo will in time and again imo has already cemented his place in art history, of course time will tell, in this genre he will always be top dog as warhol is and as dali is etc not because i sell it but because i believe it, just an opinion of course
Investment as ever is about entry and exit point. It can be a short term or long term speculation.
To be honest I would rather discuss the longevity of the current crop of urban artists with respect to this genre and the place it already has in art history. For me the greats of this genre have already written their names in large bold letters in the of history of art. From Keith Haring to Jean Michel Basquiat. In my opinion the modern day pretenders who will add to this legacy are Banksy, KAWS, OS Gemeos, Shepard Fairey and Barry McGee. All for different reasons but all because they tick so many boxes already.
Stuff art, Ireland Ireland together standing strong!!!! What a great match from start to finish, get the bros on its celebration time lol
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Good investment?, by Deleted on Nov 22, 2014 22:53:42 GMT 1,
Investment as ever is about entry and exit point. It can be a short term or long term speculation.
To be honest I would rather discuss the longevity of the current crop of urban artists with respect to this genre and the place it already has in art history. For me the greats of this genre have already written their names in large bold letters in the of history of art. From Keith Haring to Jean Michel Basquiat. In my opinion the modern day pretenders who will add to this legacy are Banksy, KAWS, OS Gemeos, Shepard Fairey and Barry McGee. All for different reasons but all because they tick so many boxes already.
100% with those names. I think you'll see Mario Martinez fast approaching as well. Under the radar but selling very well in very high profile. We need to think within reason of the original post though, and who is the up and comer for the next 10 years where you can invest in an original or potentially a print (I advise against that) for 1000.00 today. (is that pounds or dollars?) I would love a borondo, fabulous artist with talent galore, is he investible, no idea but id guess so, either way id love one.
Investment as ever is about entry and exit point. It can be a short term or long term speculation.
To be honest I would rather discuss the longevity of the current crop of urban artists with respect to this genre and the place it already has in art history. For me the greats of this genre have already written their names in large bold letters in the of history of art. From Keith Haring to Jean Michel Basquiat. In my opinion the modern day pretenders who will add to this legacy are Banksy, KAWS, OS Gemeos, Shepard Fairey and Barry McGee. All for different reasons but all because they tick so many boxes already.
100% with those names. I think you'll see Mario Martinez fast approaching as well. Under the radar but selling very well in very high profile. We need to think within reason of the original post though, and who is the up and comer for the next 10 years where you can invest in an original or potentially a print (I advise against that) for 1000.00 today. (is that pounds or dollars?) I would love a borondo, fabulous artist with talent galore, is he investible, no idea but id guess so, either way id love one.
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Dungle
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Good investment?, by Dungle on Nov 22, 2014 23:49:07 GMT 1, Speak to shittytownhero he'll turn your 1k into a million.
Speak to shittytownhero he'll turn your 1k into a million.
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gorkie
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Good investment?, by gorkie on Nov 22, 2014 23:50:42 GMT 1, Am I the only person who doesn't get Borondo?
His stuff bores me to tears. Ok, carry on!
Am I the only person who doesn't get Borondo?
His stuff bores me to tears. Ok, carry on!
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Galleri MDA
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Good investment?, by Galleri MDA on Nov 23, 2014 0:21:21 GMT 1, Iamzero, Im not calling anyone a parasite for wanting to get advice on how to spend some money. If you want to make a huge thing of a subject where a person asks for advice on how to invest their 1000โฌ and moan about how you made the mistake of not buying a Banksy when it cost 1k-2k then please moan but not on the expense of someone coming on here and being humble and straight forward about his motive, making him feel bad and apologize. Yeah I also wish that I should have bought Banksy when it was affordable, now I will most likely never afford one but hey, thats life, get over it. I can make you a photocopy if you really want one, and who knows, one day Banksy might sign it....
Iamzero, Im not calling anyone a parasite for wanting to get advice on how to spend some money. If you want to make a huge thing of a subject where a person asks for advice on how to invest their 1000โฌ and moan about how you made the mistake of not buying a Banksy when it cost 1k-2k then please moan but not on the expense of someone coming on here and being humble and straight forward about his motive, making him feel bad and apologize. Yeah I also wish that I should have bought Banksy when it was affordable, now I will most likely never afford one but hey, thats life, get over it. I can make you a photocopy if you really want one, and who knows, one day Banksy might sign it....
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nacional
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Good investment?, by nacional on Nov 23, 2014 0:38:31 GMT 1, For 1000 pounds buy a Stik print. Iconic, low key, rising profile in USA, short supply, not many on sec market, low runs...there ya go..
For 1000 pounds buy a Stik print. Iconic, low key, rising profile in USA, short supply, not many on sec market, low runs...there ya go..
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meh.
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Good investment?, by meh. on Nov 23, 2014 0:47:56 GMT 1, For 1000 pounds buy a Stik print. Iconic, low key, rising profile in USA, short supply, not many on sec market, low runs...there ya go.. rising profile?... Stik whooooo???
For 1000 pounds buy a Stik print. Iconic, low key, rising profile in USA, short supply, not many on sec market, low runs...there ya go.. rising profile?... Stik whooooo???
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Dr Plip
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Good investment?, by Dr Plip on Nov 23, 2014 0:59:06 GMT 1, Oh how could I forget my recent love? He with the pink nipple? Please help me out, whats his name? Nick Smith?
Oh how could I forget my recent love? He with the pink nipple? Please help me out, whats his name? Nick Smith?
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dueuomo
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Good investment?, by dueuomo on Nov 23, 2014 6:24:28 GMT 1, Not at all Json. I just don't agree with encouraging people to come on here looking for advice in how to screw art fans out of pieces that they've been longing for to hang on a wall while so they can come along and push up prices and brag about owning Banksy pieces at the golf club as part of their retirement fund. FTW. Go and by a Monet or wine or shares in GSK or whatever the hell it is you idiots do. Just leave us to our thing you parasites..
I do not think that just because somebody honestly earn more than you and maybe even dare to like good wine and golf should be called a parasite. It is a comment that reminds me of fake leftwingers or of somebody who has watched too many "desperate housewives" type of tv shows.
To OP i would buy an original Borondo. It will increase in value and many are grandma friendly.
Not at all Json. I just don't agree with encouraging people to come on here looking for advice in how to screw art fans out of pieces that they've been longing for to hang on a wall while so they can come along and push up prices and brag about owning Banksy pieces at the golf club as part of their retirement fund. FTW. Go and by a Monet or wine or shares in GSK or whatever the hell it is you idiots do. Just leave us to our thing you parasites.. I do not think that just because somebody honestly earn more than you and maybe even dare to like good wine and golf should be called a parasite. It is a comment that reminds me of fake leftwingers or of somebody who has watched too many "desperate housewives" type of tv shows. To OP i would buy an original Borondo. It will increase in value and many are grandma friendly.
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Good investment?, by dazarino on Nov 23, 2014 11:03:24 GMT 1, Thousands of people buy art as an investment.a good rule before you start is lots of research and be patient.Check what low cost prints cost and sell for after a few years. Almost never buy from eBay unless you are certain that it's a great deal and buy either straight from the artist or off the drop.
I myself normally buy originals. I almost never buy outright and spread the cost over a few months with a gallery. 99% of galleries will be happy to deal with you as long as you pay for the piece before pick up
At the moment print wise for short term I would wait for the next dolk print to be released. jj adams is as hot as it gets right now as well. Bob Dylan can't last forever so maybe invest in one of his pieces
Also most artists have only a couple of iconic pieces so again research is key.
Long term. Tracy Emin,Chris moon (fine art)
daleast,roa,banksy,herakut,conor harrington,dolk,miss bugs,faile,early,faith 47,Jr (urban)
Just my opinion obviously. Everyone has different views
Have fun and enjoy,
Thousands of people buy art as an investment.a good rule before you start is lots of research and be patient.Check what low cost prints cost and sell for after a few years. Almost never buy from eBay unless you are certain that it's a great deal and buy either straight from the artist or off the drop. I myself normally buy originals. I almost never buy outright and spread the cost over a few months with a gallery. 99% of galleries will be happy to deal with you as long as you pay for the piece before pick up At the moment print wise for short term I would wait for the next dolk print to be released. jj adams is as hot as it gets right now as well. Bob Dylan can't last forever so maybe invest in one of his pieces Also most artists have only a couple of iconic pieces so again research is key. Long term. Tracy Emin,Chris moon (fine art) daleast,roa,banksy,herakut,conor harrington,dolk,miss bugs,faile,early,faith 47,Jr (urban) Just my opinion obviously. Everyone has different views Have fun and enjoy,
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Good investment?, by pearlyking on Nov 23, 2014 11:18:53 GMT 1, Hi guys. Been here a few months enjoying the art listings & humor(sometimes) that goes along with it. While discussing a recent purchase I'd made my mother in law told my wife & I she wouldn't mind investing in a piece or two. Her husband(my wife's father) passed a couple months ago from a long battle w/ cancer. My question is what would you guys suggest as an artist/specific prints for her to invest? She knows the success(or luck) I had during my record collecting days so she wants me to handle it. I'm excited but I don't buy as an investment. I buy what I like & if it grows in value then good for my wife & daughter. I imagine she'll want to hang on to whatever I decide but she may very well want to sell & reinvest in a year or two. I know a few desirable artists @ the moment but who do you guys see growing for the near future? Chevrier, Faile, D*Face, etc? Only wants to start w/ around $1000 USD so no Banksy.. Thanks for any help and advice. And apogies if subject is taboo & long winded but thought if anyone could help... [br Hey dude, check out this really interesting article... www.gq-magazine.co.uk/entertainment/articles/2014-11/21/artists-to-invest-in-100-painters-of-tomorrow Could spark your interest in something a bit different. Hope it helps.
Hi guys. Been here a few months enjoying the art listings & humor(sometimes) that goes along with it. While discussing a recent purchase I'd made my mother in law told my wife & I she wouldn't mind investing in a piece or two. Her husband(my wife's father) passed a couple months ago from a long battle w/ cancer. My question is what would you guys suggest as an artist/specific prints for her to invest? She knows the success(or luck) I had during my record collecting days so she wants me to handle it. I'm excited but I don't buy as an investment. I buy what I like & if it grows in value then good for my wife & daughter. I imagine she'll want to hang on to whatever I decide but she may very well want to sell & reinvest in a year or two. I know a few desirable artists @ the moment but who do you guys see growing for the near future? Chevrier, Faile, D*Face, etc? Only wants to start w/ around $1000 USD so no Banksy.. Thanks for any help and advice. And apogies if subject is taboo & long winded but thought if anyone could help... [br Hey dude, check out this really interesting article... www.gq-magazine.co.uk/entertainment/articles/2014-11/21/artists-to-invest-in-100-painters-of-tomorrowCould spark your interest in something a bit different. Hope it helps.
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Good investment?, by Happy Shopper on Nov 23, 2014 11:27:00 GMT 1, Definitely only buy what you love, but if you're worried about the money then make it a known, international artist. And buy from source. Another good tip, IMO, is to buy a piece that's a good size, and the smallest edition you can afford... Or an original!
Definitely only buy what you love, but if you're worried about the money then make it a known, international artist. And buy from source. Another good tip, IMO, is to buy a piece that's a good size, and the smallest edition you can afford... Or an original!
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