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Inkie angry over Dr Martens street art advert , by Lroy on Nov 12, 2015 17:30:38 GMT 1, I like your print a lot, Prescription Art You never deceipt me, always great ones !
I like your print a lot, Prescription ArtYou never deceipt me, always great ones !
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Inkie angry over Dr Martens street art advert , by pressman on Nov 12, 2015 17:46:46 GMT 1, What the hell is a 'public' wall?!
What the hell is a 'public' wall?!
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Inkie angry over Dr Martens street art advert , by Feral Things on Nov 12, 2015 21:24:08 GMT 1, What the hell is a 'public' wall?! A public wall is a wall where the owner has either given general permission to paint or, as is more often the case, where the owner has tolerated anyone going and painting. This isn't a public wall but that still doesn't make it OK. My main issue is the same as met's i.e. the appropriation of a culture I love by something to which it is diametrically opposed; however, the local context in which it's been done isn't much better.
There's been a very long running campaign by local residents in St Werburghs, which is the next neighbourhood to the east, to remove 13 billboards, many of which were erected illegally. The local community in this part of the city have made it very clear that they want less large scale advertising but here we've got a national company and advertising agency blindly blundering into a local community and doing exactly the opposite of what people want and without the required planning permission for this kind of large, commercial advertising. Unsurprisingly, it didn't even take a day before Northampton's finest took care of business:
Here are some of the pieces that have appeared on that wall over the last few years. Stik in 2011, Epok and Sepr in 2012 (I think), Sony and Rose in 2013 and Dan Kitchener in 2014:
What the hell is a 'public' wall?! A public wall is a wall where the owner has either given general permission to paint or, as is more often the case, where the owner has tolerated anyone going and painting. This isn't a public wall but that still doesn't make it OK. My main issue is the same as met's i.e. the appropriation of a culture I love by something to which it is diametrically opposed; however, the local context in which it's been done isn't much better. There's been a very long running campaign by local residents in St Werburghs, which is the next neighbourhood to the east, to remove 13 billboards, many of which were erected illegally. The local community in this part of the city have made it very clear that they want less large scale advertising but here we've got a national company and advertising agency blindly blundering into a local community and doing exactly the opposite of what people want and without the required planning permission for this kind of large, commercial advertising. Unsurprisingly, it didn't even take a day before Northampton's finest took care of business: Here are some of the pieces that have appeared on that wall over the last few years. Stik in 2011, Epok and Sepr in 2012 (I think), Sony and Rose in 2013 and Dan Kitchener in 2014:
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Inkie angry over Dr Martens street art advert , by pressman on Nov 13, 2015 0:34:57 GMT 1, I'm not arguing your point feralthings but on a side note planning permission isn't required for painting a building....
I'm not arguing your point feralthings but on a side note planning permission isn't required for painting a building....
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Inkie angry over Dr Martens street art advert , by .dappy on Nov 13, 2015 0:52:32 GMT 1, ... not quite true ...
... if it is in a conservation area then permission would be needed (not necessary planning). If a listed building then def permission needed.
... even generally:
If the mural is painted directly onto the existing wall, it may be deemed granted under the General Permitted Development Order 1995. Permission is not deemed granted by class C of the Order if a mural's contents are for the "purpose of advertisement, announcement or direction". What constitutes an "advertisement, announcement or direction" may be up for some interpretation and would have to be dealt with on a case-by-case basis.
... the above is all with the Owners permission in the first place.
... not quite true ...
... if it is in a conservation area then permission would be needed (not necessary planning). If a listed building then def permission needed.
... even generally:
If the mural is painted directly onto the existing wall, it may be deemed granted under the General Permitted Development Order 1995. Permission is not deemed granted by class C of the Order if a mural's contents are for the "purpose of advertisement, announcement or direction". What constitutes an "advertisement, announcement or direction" may be up for some interpretation and would have to be dealt with on a case-by-case basis.
... the above is all with the Owners permission in the first place.
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Inkie angry over Dr Martens street art advert , by pressman on Nov 13, 2015 10:04:44 GMT 1, I appreciate there's exceptions but from memory listed buildings make up well under 1% of building stock in the UK and similarly, conservation areas are in a minority. Permitted Development Order was updated this year although I doubt painting of buildings changed.
Like you say dappy, it's open to interpretation and where do you draw the line? Local authorities suing someone for painting on a wall because they are a 'larger corporation' sets a dangerous precedent. The day that street artists submit detailed planning applications for all their work because it could be interpreted as advertising is not one to look forward to!
I appreciate there's exceptions but from memory listed buildings make up well under 1% of building stock in the UK and similarly, conservation areas are in a minority. Permitted Development Order was updated this year although I doubt painting of buildings changed.
Like you say dappy, it's open to interpretation and where do you draw the line? Local authorities suing someone for painting on a wall because they are a 'larger corporation' sets a dangerous precedent. The day that street artists submit detailed planning applications for all their work because it could be interpreted as advertising is not one to look forward to!
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Inkie angry over Dr Martens street art advert , by Feral Things on Nov 13, 2015 14:19:43 GMT 1, This is a Grade II listed building and it is in the Stokes Croft conservation area but I was more trying to get at the point that locals don't want more advertising, rather than the issue of planning permission. Sorry, probably didn't explain myself very well.
This is a Grade II listed building and it is in the Stokes Croft conservation area but I was more trying to get at the point that locals don't want more advertising, rather than the issue of planning permission. Sorry, probably didn't explain myself very well.
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Inkie angry over Dr Martens street art advert , by .dappy on Nov 13, 2015 14:44:33 GMT 1, aye ... but can you have one without the other?
... you would be surprised how many conservation areas there are ... most towns never mind the cities have one or more, as a way for the local council to control building, that, as suggested would/could be outside of actual planning regs ...
... that is not to say that we should not preserve those areas that are of significance - I myself love seeing the preservation of a medieval layout market town
aye ... but can you have one without the other? ... you would be surprised how many conservation areas there are ... most towns never mind the cities have one or more, as a way for the local council to control building, that, as suggested would/could be outside of actual planning regs ... ... that is not to say that we should not preserve those areas that are of significance - I myself love seeing the preservation of a medieval layout market town
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