Hairbland
Junior Member
Posts โข 2,943
Likes โข 2,731
November 2010
|
Donald Trump, by Hairbland on Jun 12, 2020 15:14:47 GMT 1, Tather than calling him an ignorant oaf, why not explain why heโs an ignorant oaf? The problems the USA has with race goes back hundreds of years. ย It's hardly a result of any 21st century presidency. ย I can accept that the rise of Donald Trump is a reactionary response to the liberal and intellectual persona of Barak Obama but that hardly means Obama is somehow responsible for what is happening now. ย Only a Trump supporter would come out with something as crass and stupid as that. ย ย Iโm not sure if you answered the question. Yes, the problem with America and race goes back 400 years, roughly 1619. The slaves were brought into what is now America but was British territory and settlements - there was no America for another 150 years to come. As you know the British slave trade was firmly established in the 1600s and was the backbone of Englandโs Industrial Age, with the stolen riches of Latin America providing the capital. America is now 244 years old, wounds still fresh, and so many of them.
Regarding Obama, I believe the point is that since he is Black, and there was so much inherent racism in America just below the surface, that the election of Obama, smart, fit, good looking (traits Trump and most supporters lack) brought this racism to the surface, and what we are dealing with now is the eruption of the volcano. So yes, Obamaโs largely successful presidency would be the catalyst.
Speaking as an American, living in New York City.
Tather than calling him an ignorant oaf, why not explain why heโs an ignorant oaf? The problems the USA has with race goes back hundreds of years. ย It's hardly a result of any 21st century presidency. ย I can accept that the rise of Donald Trump is a reactionary response to the liberal and intellectual persona of Barak Obama but that hardly means Obama is somehow responsible for what is happening now. ย Only a Trump supporter would come out with something as crass and stupid as that. ย ย Iโm not sure if you answered the question. Yes, the problem with America and race goes back 400 years, roughly 1619. The slaves were brought into what is now America but was British territory and settlements - there was no America for another 150 years to come. As you know the British slave trade was firmly established in the 1600s and was the backbone of Englandโs Industrial Age, with the stolen riches of Latin America providing the capital. America is now 244 years old, wounds still fresh, and so many of them. Regarding Obama, I believe the point is that since he is Black, and there was so much inherent racism in America just below the surface, that the election of Obama, smart, fit, good looking (traits Trump and most supporters lack) brought this racism to the surface, and what we are dealing with now is the eruption of the volcano. So yes, Obamaโs largely successful presidency would be the catalyst. Speaking as an American, living in New York City.
|
|
embee
New Member
Posts โข 44
Likes โข 48
January 2020
|
Donald Trump, by embee on Jun 12, 2020 15:54:48 GMT 1, Thereโs what outlets like Fox News did, and what outlets like Fox News now claim.
What they did: Paint Obama as an โotherโ. Un-American, even Non-American. Ramp up hysteria about things like immigration, sexuality, 'socialism', free speech, โyour rightsโ etc. Explicitly tie it all to Obama. This is what is happening to your country, because of these people. Not hard to see how Trump is born from this (and of course, he was perhaps *the* lead birther).
What they now claim: The way Obama talked about issues surrounding race and those faced by other minorities only served to divide America, not unite America. What you see now is all his fault for doing this. He created all the anger and resentment.
Thereโs what outlets like Fox News did, and what outlets like Fox News now claim.
What they did: Paint Obama as an โotherโ. Un-American, even Non-American. Ramp up hysteria about things like immigration, sexuality, 'socialism', free speech, โyour rightsโ etc. Explicitly tie it all to Obama. This is what is happening to your country, because of these people. Not hard to see how Trump is born from this (and of course, he was perhaps *the* lead birther).
What they now claim: The way Obama talked about issues surrounding race and those faced by other minorities only served to divide America, not unite America. What you see now is all his fault for doing this. He created all the anger and resentment.
|
|
drip
Junior Member
Posts โข 2,070
Likes โข 4,333
February 2015
|
Donald Trump, by drip on Jun 12, 2020 16:12:04 GMT 1, Ah, the tit for tat has begun. One side targeting statues of slavers and odious people, the other side targetting...*checks notes*...statues of black people.
Ah, the tit for tat has begun. One side targeting statues of slavers and odious people, the other side targetting...*checks notes*...statues of black people.
|
|
drip
Junior Member
Posts โข 2,070
Likes โข 4,333
February 2015
|
Donald Trump, by drip on Jun 12, 2020 16:18:18 GMT 1, For me, as disrespectful as it is to target memorials to good people, or revere statues of bad people, (and keeping in mind that these are lumps of metal and stone, and no matter what they represent, the bigger issue must surely be how actual living beings are treated on a daily basis), at least there's some educational value to this statue purging. I mean, people walk past these statues every day, and probably have no idea who these people were or what they did. Throw one in a river or attack it with bleach, and suddenly the news and social media pops up to tell us all about those individuals and what kind of people they were. Then we can decide how we feel about the poor statue. Anyway, it's complicated.
For me, as disrespectful as it is to target memorials to good people, or revere statues of bad people, (and keeping in mind that these are lumps of metal and stone, and no matter what they represent, the bigger issue must surely be how actual living beings are treated on a daily basis), at least there's some educational value to this statue purging. I mean, people walk past these statues every day, and probably have no idea who these people were or what they did. Throw one in a river or attack it with bleach, and suddenly the news and social media pops up to tell us all about those individuals and what kind of people they were. Then we can decide how we feel about the poor statue. Anyway, it's complicated.
|
|
mojo
Junior Member
Posts โข 2,052
Likes โข 3,349
May 2014
|
Donald Trump, by mojo on Jun 12, 2020 16:57:37 GMT 1, Why should I take any notice of what Spike Lee thinks? If that's really his view then he is an ignorant oaf. Spike Lee has been holding up a mirror to society for over 30 years and as a consequence is one of the worlds most famous film directors. You are not obliged to take any notice of what he says or anybody else for that matter but to call him an ignorant oaf makes you sound like... guess what? Link to Q&A with Spike Lee
Why should I take any notice of what Spike Lee thinks? If that's really his view then he is an ignorant oaf. Spike Lee has been holding up a mirror to society for over 30 years and as a consequence is one of the worlds most famous film directors. You are not obliged to take any notice of what he says or anybody else for that matter but to call him an ignorant oaf makes you sound like... guess what? Link to Q&A with Spike Lee
|
|
.dappy
Full Member
Posts โข 9,836
Likes โข 9,446
December 2010
|
Donald Trump, by .dappy on Jun 15, 2020 23:39:29 GMT 1, ... no shรฏt Sherlock ...
'But on Monday, the (FDA) agency said clinical studies had suggested that hydroxychloroquine was ineffective in treating the deadly virus and failed to prevent infection among those exposed to it.'
BBC News - Coronavirus: US withdraws emergency use of hydroxychloroquine www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-53054476
... no shรฏt Sherlock ... 'But on Monday, the (FDA) agency said clinical studies had suggested that hydroxychloroquine was ineffective in treating the deadly virus and failed to prevent infection among those exposed to it.'
BBC News - Coronavirus: US withdraws emergency use of hydroxychloroquine www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-53054476
|
|
|
teabaggins
New Member
Posts โข 930
Likes โข 1,559
November 2018
|
Donald Trump, by teabaggins on Jun 15, 2020 23:46:00 GMT 1, ... no shรฏt Sherlock ... 'But on Monday, the (FDA) agency said clinical studies had suggested that hydroxychloroquine was ineffective in treating the deadly virus and failed to prevent infection among those exposed to it.'
BBC News - Coronavirus: US withdraws emergency use of hydroxychloroquine www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-53054476 Is this what โgame changerโ means?
... no shรฏt Sherlock ... 'But on Monday, the (FDA) agency said clinical studies had suggested that hydroxychloroquine was ineffective in treating the deadly virus and failed to prevent infection among those exposed to it.'
BBC News - Coronavirus: US withdraws emergency use of hydroxychloroquine www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-53054476Is this what โgame changerโ means?
|
|
.dappy
Full Member
Posts โข 9,836
Likes โข 9,446
December 2010
|
Donald Trump, by .dappy on Jun 16, 2020 0:38:48 GMT 1,
|
|
Bill Hicks
New Member
Posts โข 936
Likes โข 1,136
May 2008
|
Donald Trump, by Bill Hicks on Jun 18, 2020 15:24:29 GMT 1, On Wednesday at 3 pm CET, the UN will hold an unprecedented debate on systemic racism and police violence. They could order the set up of an independent commission of inquiry investigating police brutality in the US. But, we need to pressure our governments to demand US accountability at this meeting!
Insiders say the Trump Administration is exerting massive pressure on countries to take the spotlight off the US. Australia and European countries have capitulated to a watered down resolution, and other countries are also coming under intense pressure. This is where we come in!
If enough of us contact our foreign ministries / country representatives to the UN in the
"next 18 hours" We can get these countries to reverse course and to demand US accountability! Hereโs how we do it:
If you live outside the US, please contact your Foreign Ministry or your countryโs UN Mission in Geneva and let them know that you support the call made by families of victims of police killings in the United States, 54 African countries, and over 660 groups from 66 countries to mandate an independent Commission of Inquiry. If you live in the United States, please contact foreign embassies in Washington D.C. that are members of the UNHRC (see list below) especially U.S. allies and urge them to support international accountability for police killings in the U.S
lINKS.
www.unog.ch/80256EE600582E34/(httpPages) /8CEC446B720477DA80256EF8004CB68C?OpenDocument&expand=1&count=10000#1
www.aclu.org/letter/coalition-letter-request-un-independent-inquiry-escalating-situation-police-
violence-and?redirect=letter/coalition-letter-request-un-investigation-escalating-situation-police-violence-and-repression
docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1o-UUk7_MALjrVBvj9thVc-26tW5yfGB4FSRyCFdtqQg/edit#gid=0
On Wednesday at 3 pm CET, the UN will hold an unprecedented debate on systemic racism and police violence. They could order the set up of an independent commission of inquiry investigating police brutality in the US. But, we need to pressure our governments to demand US accountability at this meeting! Insiders say the Trump Administration is exerting massive pressure on countries to take the spotlight off the US. Australia and European countries have capitulated to a watered down resolution, and other countries are also coming under intense pressure. This is where we come in! If enough of us contact our foreign ministries / country representatives to the UN in the
"next 18 hours" We can get these countries to reverse course and to demand US accountability! Hereโs how we do it: If you live outside the US, please contact your Foreign Ministry or your countryโs UN Mission in Geneva and let them know that you support the call made by families of victims of police killings in the United States, 54 African countries, and over 660 groups from 66 countries to mandate an independent Commission of Inquiry. If you live in the United States, please contact foreign embassies in Washington D.C. that are members of the UNHRC (see list below) especially U.S. allies and urge them to support international accountability for police killings in the U.S lINKS. www.unog.ch/80256EE600582E34/(httpPages)/8CEC446B720477DA80256EF8004CB68C?OpenDocument&expand=1&count=10000#1 www.aclu.org/letter/coalition-letter-request-un-independent-inquiry-escalating-situation-police-violence-and?redirect=letter/coalition-letter-request-un-investigation-escalating-situation-police-violence-and-repression
docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1o-UUk7_MALjrVBvj9thVc-26tW5yfGB4FSRyCFdtqQg/edit#gid=0
|
|
irl1
Full Member
Posts โข 9,274
Likes โข 9,380
December 2017
|
Donald Trump, by irl1 on Jun 18, 2020 15:33:20 GMT 1, We had a cop shot dead over here last night with his own gun
Garda shot dead with own gun in 'random act'
www.rte.ie/news/2020/0617/1148139-garda-shooting/
|
|
Ottomatik
Junior Member
Posts โข 4,212
Likes โข 2,451
March 2009
|
Donald Trump, by Ottomatik on Jun 22, 2020 3:21:49 GMT 1, I just discovered that Expresso Beans deleted all of their threads on anything relating to politics. WOW! Doesnโt art and politics go hand in hand! Uh...Isnโt that why Banksy is so โIT?โ
Damn.
Iโm shook!
Sorry for the tangent. Hope my latest Insta post makes up for it.
โ...and now back to our regularly scheduled program...โ
I just discovered that Expresso Beans deleted all of their threads on anything relating to politics. WOW! Doesnโt art and politics go hand in hand! Uh...Isnโt that why Banksy is so โIT?โ
Damn.
Iโm shook!
Sorry for the tangent. Hope my latest Insta post makes up for it.
โ...and now back to our regularly scheduled program...โ
|
|
Ottomatik
Junior Member
Posts โข 4,212
Likes โข 2,451
March 2009
|
Donald Trump, by Ottomatik on Jun 22, 2020 3:23:03 GMT 1,
|
|
WOOF
Junior Member
Posts โข 4,459
Likes โข 4,756
March 2014
|
Donald Trump, by WOOF on Jun 22, 2020 3:51:33 GMT 1, I just discovered that Expresso Beans deleted all of their threads on anything relating to politics. WOW! Doesnโt art and politics go hand in hand! Uh...Isnโt that why Banksy is so โIT?โ Damn. Iโm shook! Sorry for the tangent. Hope my latest Insta post makes up for it. โ...and now back to our regularly scheduled program...โ Honestly, this place would be better if it followed eb's lead.
I just discovered that Expresso Beans deleted all of their threads on anything relating to politics. WOW! Doesnโt art and politics go hand in hand! Uh...Isnโt that why Banksy is so โIT?โ Damn. Iโm shook! Sorry for the tangent. Hope my latest Insta post makes up for it. โ...and now back to our regularly scheduled program...โ Honestly, this place would be better if it followed eb's lead.
|
|
Ottomatik
Junior Member
Posts โข 4,212
Likes โข 2,451
March 2009
|
Donald Trump, by Ottomatik on Jun 22, 2020 4:14:12 GMT 1, I just discovered that Expresso Beans deleted all of their threads on anything relating to politics. WOW! Doesnโt art and politics go hand in hand! Uh...Isnโt that why Banksy is so โIT?โ Damn. Iโm shook! Sorry for the tangent. Hope my latest Insta post makes up for it. โ...and now back to our regularly scheduled program...โ Honestly, this place would be better if it followed eb's lead.
lol Dude, if you stop following โnew feeds/posts,โ youโd never ever have to witness things your eyes wish not to.
It is that simple.
And letโs be honest...when was the last time you posted in any thread other than โUrban Artโ or โFor Sale.โ Donโt bother, I did my research....itโs been years.
I just discovered that Expresso Beans deleted all of their threads on anything relating to politics. WOW! Doesnโt art and politics go hand in hand! Uh...Isnโt that why Banksy is so โIT?โ Damn. Iโm shook! Sorry for the tangent. Hope my latest Insta post makes up for it. โ...and now back to our regularly scheduled program...โ Honestly, this place would be better if it followed eb's lead. lol Dude, if you stop following โnew feeds/posts,โ youโd never ever have to witness things your eyes wish not to. It is that simple. And letโs be honest...when was the last time you posted in any thread other than โUrban Artโ or โFor Sale.โ Donโt bother, I did my research....itโs been years.
|
|
|
WOOF
Junior Member
Posts โข 4,459
Likes โข 4,756
March 2014
|
Donald Trump, by WOOF on Jun 22, 2020 4:54:56 GMT 1, Honestly, this place would be better if it followed eb's lead. lol Dude, if you stop following โnew feeds/posts,โ youโd never ever have to witness things your eyes wish not to. It is that simple. And letโs be honest...when was the last time you posted in any thread other than โUrban Artโ or โFor Sale.โ Donโt bother, I did my research....itโs been years. This is an urban art forum, so yeah, i post in the urban art forum a fair amount. Not sure what your point is?
I posted in the "help" forum last month. Did you not see that one?
Honestly, this place would be better if it followed eb's lead. lol Dude, if you stop following โnew feeds/posts,โ youโd never ever have to witness things your eyes wish not to. It is that simple. And letโs be honest...when was the last time you posted in any thread other than โUrban Artโ or โFor Sale.โ Donโt bother, I did my research....itโs been years. This is an urban art forum, so yeah, i post in the urban art forum a fair amount. Not sure what your point is? I posted in the "help" forum last month. Did you not see that one?
|
|
Ottomatik
Junior Member
Posts โข 4,212
Likes โข 2,451
March 2009
|
Donald Trump, by Ottomatik on Jun 22, 2020 5:49:29 GMT 1, lol Dude, if you stop following โnew feeds/posts,โ youโd never ever have to witness things your eyes wish not to. It is that simple. And letโs be honest...when was the last time you posted in any thread other than โUrban Artโ or โFor Sale.โ Donโt bother, I did my research....itโs been years. This is an urban art forum, so yeah, i post in the urban art forum a fair amount. Not sure what your point is? I posted in the "help" forum last month. Did you not see that one?
Indeed it is. (An urbAn art forum)
However, my original post was under the โchatโ forum threads.
So, good on ya for using the โhelpโ thread.
As stated, refreshing your โnew postโ will show all the colors of this website. If you only want to see specific colors, stick to the main page and stay on the โurban artโ and โfor sale threads.โ (And the occasional โhelpโ threads.). You can then only see the colors of the rainbow you need to.
lol Dude, if you stop following โnew feeds/posts,โ youโd never ever have to witness things your eyes wish not to. It is that simple. And letโs be honest...when was the last time you posted in any thread other than โUrban Artโ or โFor Sale.โ Donโt bother, I did my research....itโs been years. This is an urban art forum, so yeah, i post in the urban art forum a fair amount. Not sure what your point is? I posted in the "help" forum last month. Did you not see that one? Indeed it is. (An urbAn art forum) However, my original post was under the โchatโ forum threads. So, good on ya for using the โhelpโ thread. As stated, refreshing your โnew postโ will show all the colors of this website. If you only want to see specific colors, stick to the main page and stay on the โurban artโ and โfor sale threads.โ (And the occasional โhelpโ threads.). You can then only see the colors of the rainbow you need to.
|
|
Hairbland
Junior Member
Posts โข 2,943
Likes โข 2,731
November 2010
|
Donald Trump, by Hairbland on Jun 22, 2020 12:01:12 GMT 1, One would argue having chat forums such as politics, what music youโre listening to, etc build community.
One would argue having chat forums such as politics, what music youโre listening to, etc build community.
|
|
.dappy
Full Member
Posts โข 9,836
Likes โข 9,446
December 2010
|
Donald Trump, by .dappy on Jun 22, 2020 12:04:58 GMT 1, ... its easy ... just view the forum through the 'recent/new threads' option ... you can them pick and choose which threads you want to read ...
... its easy ... just view the forum through the 'recent/new threads' option ... you can them pick and choose which threads you want to read ...
|
|
WOOF
Junior Member
Posts โข 4,459
Likes โข 4,756
March 2014
|
Donald Trump, by WOOF on Jun 22, 2020 16:58:25 GMT 1, One would argue having chat forums such as politics, what music youโre listening to, etc build community. When it's about cool new music, I totally agree. When it's circlejerking a white supremacist, what kind of community are we building?
One would argue having chat forums such as politics, what music youโre listening to, etc build community. When it's about cool new music, I totally agree. When it's circlejerking a white supremacist, what kind of community are we building?
|
|
Deleted
Posts โข 0
Likes โข
January 1970
|
Donald Trump, by Deleted on Jun 22, 2020 17:00:09 GMT 1, I just discovered that Expresso Beans deleted all of their threads on anything relating to politics. WOW! Doesnโt art and politics go hand in hand! Uh...Isnโt that why Banksy is so โIT?โ Damn. Iโm shook! Sorry for the tangent. Hope my latest Insta post makes up for it. โ...and now back to our regularly scheduled program...โ Honestly, this place would be better if it followed eb's lead.
No, it wouldn't
I just discovered that Expresso Beans deleted all of their threads on anything relating to politics. WOW! Doesnโt art and politics go hand in hand! Uh...Isnโt that why Banksy is so โIT?โ Damn. Iโm shook! Sorry for the tangent. Hope my latest Insta post makes up for it. โ...and now back to our regularly scheduled program...โ Honestly, this place would be better if it followed eb's lead. No, it wouldn't
|
|
Deleted
Posts โข 0
Likes โข
January 1970
|
Donald Trump, by Deleted on Jun 22, 2020 17:03:35 GMT 1, One would argue having chat forums such as politics, what music youโre listening to, etc build community. When it's circlejerking a white supremacist,
I don't understand what that means
Does it mean we like him or we don't like him?
One would argue having chat forums such as politics, what music youโre listening to, etc build community. When it's circlejerking a white supremacist, I don't understand what that means Does it mean we like him or we don't like him?
|
|
everyoneowes
Junior Member
Posts โข 1,283
Likes โข 1,421
January 2015
|
|
|
|
.dappy
Full Member
Posts โข 9,836
Likes โข 9,446
December 2010
|
Donald Trump, by .dappy on Jul 1, 2020 17:09:48 GMT 1, ... bounty by Russia on American (and coalition) forces ...
Donald Trump
... not briefed ... (Fake News, Hoax etc) to
... not personally briefed ... to
... not verbally briefed ...
Hhhhmmmm ...
... bounty by Russia on American (and coalition) forces ...
Donald Trump
... not briefed ... (Fake News, Hoax etc) to
... not personally briefed ... to
... not verbally briefed ...
Hhhhmmmm ...
|
|
.dappy
Full Member
Posts โข 9,836
Likes โข 9,446
December 2010
|
Donald Trump, by .dappy on Jul 3, 2020 23:52:55 GMT 1, ... it's going to just disappear ...
... it's going to just disappear ...
|
|
.dappy
Full Member
Posts โข 9,836
Likes โข 9,446
December 2010
|
|
|
teabaggins
New Member
Posts โข 930
Likes โข 1,559
November 2018
|
Donald Trump, by teabaggins on Jul 14, 2020 12:35:40 GMT 1,
|
|
Leo Boyd
Artist
Junior Member
Posts โข 1,453
Likes โข 2,037
June 2016
|
Donald Trump, by Leo Boyd on Jul 25, 2020 12:39:22 GMT 1, Reasoning by the FEDS of why they are beating and arresting american citizens
Violent anarchists graffitied the BPA Building. Violent anarchists graffitied the Hatfield Courthouse. Violent anarchists graffitied the Edith Green-Wenell Wyatt Building. Violent anarchists graffitied the Terry Schrunk Plaza. Violent anarchists graffitied the 911 Federal Building. Violent anarchists graffitied the Pioneer Courthouse. Violent anarchists graffitied the Gus J. Solomon Courthouse. 06/01/2020
Violent anarchists graffitied the Hatfield Courthouse. Violent anarchists graffitied Terry Schrunk Plaza. Violent anarchists graffitied The Pioneer Courthouse. Violent anarchists graffitied The Gus J Solomon Courthouse. 06/02/2020
Violent anarchists graffitied the U.S. Custom House.
Reasoning by the FEDS of why they are beating and arresting american citizens Violent anarchists graffitied the BPA Building. Violent anarchists graffitied the Hatfield Courthouse. Violent anarchists graffitied the Edith Green-Wenell Wyatt Building. Violent anarchists graffitied the Terry Schrunk Plaza. Violent anarchists graffitied the 911 Federal Building. Violent anarchists graffitied the Pioneer Courthouse. Violent anarchists graffitied the Gus J. Solomon Courthouse. 06/01/2020 Violent anarchists graffitied the Hatfield Courthouse. Violent anarchists graffitied Terry Schrunk Plaza. Violent anarchists graffitied The Pioneer Courthouse. Violent anarchists graffitied The Gus J Solomon Courthouse. 06/02/2020 Violent anarchists graffitied the U.S. Custom House.
|
|
Leo Boyd
Artist
Junior Member
Posts โข 1,453
Likes โข 2,037
June 2016
|
Donald Trump, by Leo Boyd on Jul 25, 2020 14:01:59 GMT 1, Also this is pretty good too
Also this is pretty good too
|
|
|
.dappy
Full Member
Posts โข 9,836
Likes โข 9,446
December 2010
|
Donald Trump, by .dappy on Jul 29, 2020 19:29:35 GMT 1, ... I have the best words ...
... a very stable genius ...
http://instagram.com/p/CDCIIpaHGCm
|
|