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Pattycakes
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Banksy Unsigned Love Rat- Shocking condition - ADVICE, by Pattycakes on Aug 19, 2016 18:51:33 GMT 1, With about ยฃ600 in restoration I think she would probably get about 2k. It's without question something I would offer at auction. If you need some help pm me and I'll give you some names to contact
With about ยฃ600 in restoration I think she would probably get about 2k. It's without question something I would offer at auction. If you need some help pm me and I'll give you some names to contact
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sincebyman
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Banksy Unsigned Love Rat- Shocking condition - ADVICE, by sincebyman on Aug 19, 2016 18:53:02 GMT 1, Get all your documentation sorted and then put it on ebay.. . everything is just speculation. The market will dictate it's worth.
Get all your documentation sorted and then put it on ebay.. . everything is just speculation. The market will dictate it's worth.
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Banksy Unsigned Love Rat- Shocking condition - ADVICE, by Deleted on Aug 19, 2016 18:54:09 GMT 1, With about ยฃ600 in restoration I think she would probably get about 2k. It's without question something I would offer at auction. If you need some help pm me and I'll give you some names to contact
Printguru, i have zero idea on this stuff but could this be repaired to a good standard ? If so thats brilliant
With about ยฃ600 in restoration I think she would probably get about 2k. It's without question something I would offer at auction. If you need some help pm me and I'll give you some names to contact Printguru, i have zero idea on this stuff but could this be repaired to a good standard ? If so thats brilliant
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Black Apple Art
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Banksy Unsigned Love Rat- Shocking condition - ADVICE, by Black Apple Art on Aug 19, 2016 19:00:21 GMT 1, The "issues" can be improved but not fixed. Deep folds like that can not be totally reversed and looks like there is some cracking and tearing as well. With ยฃ200 into the piece it's definitely worth having improved by a reputable restoration house but will never be what I would consider an investment worthy piece. That considered it could still be a nice to display and appreciate. You didn't mention if it had COA or not...probably should look into that as well.
The "issues" can be improved but not fixed. Deep folds like that can not be totally reversed and looks like there is some cracking and tearing as well. With ยฃ200 into the piece it's definitely worth having improved by a reputable restoration house but will never be what I would consider an investment worthy piece. That considered it could still be a nice to display and appreciate. You didn't mention if it had COA or not...probably should look into that as well.
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Nick
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Banksy Unsigned Love Rat- Shocking condition - ADVICE, by Nick on Aug 19, 2016 19:00:51 GMT 1, With about ยฃ600 in restoration I think she would probably get about 2k. It's without question something I would offer at auction. If you need some help pm me and I'll give you some names to contact so without any work done to it you think its worth less than ยฃ1400? I reckon that would be a great price even in this condition. But as i said i have zero clue on this side of the market. Auction does sound the way to go and to just see what happens.
With about ยฃ600 in restoration I think she would probably get about 2k. It's without question something I would offer at auction. If you need some help pm me and I'll give you some names to contact so without any work done to it you think its worth less than ยฃ1400? I reckon that would be a great price even in this condition. But as i said i have zero clue on this side of the market. Auction does sound the way to go and to just see what happens.
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Nick
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Banksy Unsigned Love Rat- Shocking condition - ADVICE, by Nick on Aug 19, 2016 19:05:46 GMT 1, The "issues" can be improved but not fixed. Deep folds like that can not be totally reversed and looks like there is some cracking and tearing as well. With ยฃ200 into the piece it's definitely worth having improved by a reputable restoration house but will never be what I would consider an investment worthy piece. That considered it could still be a nice to display and appreciate. You didn't mention if it had COA or not...probably should look into that as well. just to clarify I did not buy this from her for ยฃ200. Would never try and profit off a friend.
Obviously pest control is the first step, which i did mention above. Want to determine if its worth getting the issues seen before sale as any costs will be incurred by her and can't imagine much can be done to improve this.
cracking, tearing and pinholes..I think this copy has it all. Cheers
The "issues" can be improved but not fixed. Deep folds like that can not be totally reversed and looks like there is some cracking and tearing as well. With ยฃ200 into the piece it's definitely worth having improved by a reputable restoration house but will never be what I would consider an investment worthy piece. That considered it could still be a nice to display and appreciate. You didn't mention if it had COA or not...probably should look into that as well. just to clarify I did not buy this from her for ยฃ200. Would never try and profit off a friend. Obviously pest control is the first step, which i did mention above. Want to determine if its worth getting the issues seen before sale as any costs will be incurred by her and can't imagine much can be done to improve this. cracking, tearing and pinholes..I think this copy has it all. Cheers
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sincebyman
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Banksy Unsigned Love Rat- Shocking condition - ADVICE, by sincebyman on Aug 19, 2016 19:13:18 GMT 1, It is stilla Banksy, Nick. Restore it and frame it up proper. It'll be a nice story to give off too.. .
The "issues" can be improved but not fixed. Deep folds like that can not be totally reversed and looks like there is some cracking and tearing as well. With ยฃ200 into the piece it's definitely worth having improved by a reputable restoration house but will never be what I would consider an investment worthy piece. That considered it could still be a nice to display and appreciate. You didn't mention if it had COA or not...probably should look into that as well. just to clarify I did not buy this from her for ยฃ200. Would never try and profit off a friend. Obviously pest control is the first step, which i did mention above. Want to determine if its worth getting the issues seen before sale as any costs will be incurred by her and can't imagine much can be done to improve this. cracking, tearing and pinholes..I think this copy has it all. Cheers
It is stilla Banksy, Nick. Restore it and frame it up proper. It'll be a nice story to give off too.. . The "issues" can be improved but not fixed. Deep folds like that can not be totally reversed and looks like there is some cracking and tearing as well. With ยฃ200 into the piece it's definitely worth having improved by a reputable restoration house but will never be what I would consider an investment worthy piece. That considered it could still be a nice to display and appreciate. You didn't mention if it had COA or not...probably should look into that as well. just to clarify I did not buy this from her for ยฃ200. Would never try and profit off a friend. Obviously pest control is the first step, which i did mention above. Want to determine if its worth getting the issues seen before sale as any costs will be incurred by her and can't imagine much can be done to improve this. cracking, tearing and pinholes..I think this copy has it all. Cheers
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sufsean
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Banksy Unsigned Love Rat- Shocking condition - ADVICE, by sufsean on Aug 19, 2016 19:17:31 GMT 1, After catching up with an old friend and discussing my interest in this genre of urban art she lets loose to me that she has an old banksy print folded up in a book at home that an ex boyfriend had bought her in 2004/5. After explaining the image I knew it was Love Rat and cheekily offered ยฃ200 for it, which she quickly accepted. It's a shame I have morals so instead I explained quite how developed his market has become and i'm going to help her get pest control and then sell it for her. Condition is clearly shocking, this has never been looked after! What sort of price do you think this could achieve and is it worth trying to fix the issues? Could Bignel even do anything with this? I literally fantasize about going to a garage sale, and finding a banksy in some poster bin. This is a great story and I am very jealous.
After catching up with an old friend and discussing my interest in this genre of urban art she lets loose to me that she has an old banksy print folded up in a book at home that an ex boyfriend had bought her in 2004/5. After explaining the image I knew it was Love Rat and cheekily offered ยฃ200 for it, which she quickly accepted. It's a shame I have morals so instead I explained quite how developed his market has become and i'm going to help her get pest control and then sell it for her. Condition is clearly shocking, this has never been looked after! What sort of price do you think this could achieve and is it worth trying to fix the issues? Could Bignel even do anything with this? I literally fantasize about going to a garage sale, and finding a banksy in some poster bin. This is a great story and I am very jealous.
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chads007
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Banksy Unsigned Love Rat- Shocking condition - ADVICE, by chads007 on Aug 19, 2016 19:25:46 GMT 1, As mentioned, it will need deep restorative processes to get back some of the beauty, but those deep folds and edge damage are only slightly reversible
As mentioned, it will need deep restorative processes to get back some of the beauty, but those deep folds and edge damage are only slightly reversible
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Ruggs
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Banksy Unsigned Love Rat- Shocking condition - ADVICE, by Ruggs on Aug 19, 2016 19:30:37 GMT 1, I'm sure there's a fare few Banksy prints from that period that ended up in this condition ... or even worse. My advise is to send Graham Bignell an e-mail accompanied with as many pictures as you can to get an initial idea of whether restoration is a possibility and ballpark costs etc. I think for a much better idea i'd send it to him for a fuller assessment.
I'm sure there's a fare few Banksy prints from that period that ended up in this condition ... or even worse. My advise is to send Graham Bignell an e-mail accompanied with as many pictures as you can to get an initial idea of whether restoration is a possibility and ballpark costs etc. I think for a much better idea i'd send it to him for a fuller assessment.
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Banksy Unsigned Love Rat- Shocking condition - ADVICE, by Castle Gallery NI on Aug 19, 2016 19:41:02 GMT 1, Theres something beautiful about it just the way it is, authentic, obviously financially restorations the way to go but if that doesnt work out give me a shout, i love the idea of nailing it to the wall, good talking point on how far Bs come/perception has changed.
Theres something beautiful about it just the way it is, authentic, obviously financially restorations the way to go but if that doesnt work out give me a shout, i love the idea of nailing it to the wall, good talking point on how far Bs come/perception has changed.
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South Bound
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Banksy Unsigned Love Rat- Shocking condition - ADVICE, by South Bound on Aug 19, 2016 19:49:41 GMT 1, Theres something beautiful about it just the way it is, authentic, obviously financially restorations the way to go but if that doesnt work out give me a shout, i love the idea of nailing it to the wall, good talking point on how far Bs come/perception has changed. I agree, while I understand the $$ side of it, there is something about it that makes me think that a Banksy piece is supposed to be rough / beat up and not crisp and clean. If you can't restore then you should still frame.
Theres something beautiful about it just the way it is, authentic, obviously financially restorations the way to go but if that doesnt work out give me a shout, i love the idea of nailing it to the wall, good talking point on how far Bs come/perception has changed. I agree, while I understand the $$ side of it, there is something about it that makes me think that a Banksy piece is supposed to be rough / beat up and not crisp and clean. If you can't restore then you should still frame.
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Banksy Unsigned Love Rat- Shocking condition - ADVICE, by Deleted on Aug 19, 2016 19:53:58 GMT 1, The "issues" can be improved but not fixed. Deep folds like that can not be totally reversed and looks like there is some cracking and tearing as well. With ยฃ200 into the piece it's definitely worth having improved by a reputable restoration house but will never be what I would consider an investment worthy piece. That considered it could still be a nice to display and appreciate. You didn't mention if it had COA or not...probably should look into that as well. just to clarify I did not buy this from her for ยฃ200. Would never try and profit off a friend. Obviously pest control is the first step, which i did mention above. Want to determine if its worth getting the issues seen before sale as any costs will be incurred by her and can't imagine much can be done to improve this. cracking, tearing and pinholes..I think this copy has it all. Cheers
Love it, shame her ex boyfriend didn't go for a signed at the time ;-)
Got to be worth quite a bit as is, its natural, chuck a bit of coffee on it, and i'll take it off you :-)
edited to add, - look at you using your oily hands to hold the print, no white gloves, living life at the edge :-)
The "issues" can be improved but not fixed. Deep folds like that can not be totally reversed and looks like there is some cracking and tearing as well. With ยฃ200 into the piece it's definitely worth having improved by a reputable restoration house but will never be what I would consider an investment worthy piece. That considered it could still be a nice to display and appreciate. You didn't mention if it had COA or not...probably should look into that as well. just to clarify I did not buy this from her for ยฃ200. Would never try and profit off a friend. Obviously pest control is the first step, which i did mention above. Want to determine if its worth getting the issues seen before sale as any costs will be incurred by her and can't imagine much can be done to improve this. cracking, tearing and pinholes..I think this copy has it all. Cheers Love it, shame her ex boyfriend didn't go for a signed at the time ;-) Got to be worth quite a bit as is, its natural, chuck a bit of coffee on it, and i'll take it off you :-) edited to add, - look at you using your oily hands to hold the print, no white gloves, living life at the edge :-)
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Harveyn
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Banksy Unsigned Love Rat- Shocking condition - ADVICE, by Harveyn on Aug 19, 2016 20:00:07 GMT 1, It should be sold, bought and hung as is. The history of the piece and the look is just perfect. It can never be restored to perfection so I would not even start the process. I imagine with PC its worth more than people might imagine. I would love it as it is and almost tempted to make an offer.
It should be sold, bought and hung as is. The history of the piece and the look is just perfect. It can never be restored to perfection so I would not even start the process. I imagine with PC its worth more than people might imagine. I would love it as it is and almost tempted to make an offer.
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Nick
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Banksy Unsigned Love Rat- Shocking condition - ADVICE, by Nick on Aug 19, 2016 20:05:33 GMT 1, Looks like a treasure map - love it. I agree with the above, get it on the wall as is If this was mine I absolutely would! It's owned by a friend and know she knows that it's valuable she seems keen to cash in.
Looks like a treasure map - love it. I agree with the above, get it on the wall as is If this was mine I absolutely would! It's owned by a friend and know she knows that it's valuable she seems keen to cash in.
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Banksy Unsigned Love Rat- Shocking condition - ADVICE, by Deleted on Aug 19, 2016 20:19:35 GMT 1, After catching up with an old friend and discussing my interest in this genre of urban art she lets loose to me that she has an old banksy print folded up in a book at home that an ex boyfriend had bought her in 2004/5. After explaining the image I knew it was Love Rat and cheekily offered ยฃ200 for it, which she quickly accepted. It's a shame I have morals so instead I explained quite how developed his market has become and i'm going to help her get pest control and then sell it for her. Condition is clearly shocking, this has never been looked after! What sort of price do you think this could achieve and is it worth trying to fix the issues? Could Bignel even do anything with this? Fk Bignobs resto's, leave the Rat alone.
Lovely.
After catching up with an old friend and discussing my interest in this genre of urban art she lets loose to me that she has an old banksy print folded up in a book at home that an ex boyfriend had bought her in 2004/5. After explaining the image I knew it was Love Rat and cheekily offered ยฃ200 for it, which she quickly accepted. It's a shame I have morals so instead I explained quite how developed his market has become and i'm going to help her get pest control and then sell it for her. Condition is clearly shocking, this has never been looked after! What sort of price do you think this could achieve and is it worth trying to fix the issues? Could Bignel even do anything with this? Fk Bignobs resto's, leave the Rat alone. Lovely.
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dougal
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Banksy Unsigned Love Rat- Shocking condition - ADVICE, by dougal on Aug 19, 2016 20:20:41 GMT 1, I think the fully used look is better than the partially restored look... If I was in your friends situation I would get it framed and hanged but appreciate we all have differing circumstances.
I think the fully used look is better than the partially restored look... If I was in your friends situation I would get it framed and hanged but appreciate we all have differing circumstances.
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sufsean
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Banksy Unsigned Love Rat- Shocking condition - ADVICE, by sufsean on Aug 19, 2016 20:31:20 GMT 1, Ask your friend if she has any other Banksy stuff hanging around
and/or call her old boyfriend up and see if he unknowingly has a Banksy too!
Ask your friend if she has any other Banksy stuff hanging around and/or call her old boyfriend up and see if he unknowingly has a Banksy too!
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Banksy Unsigned Love Rat- Shocking condition - ADVICE, by Deleted on Aug 19, 2016 20:37:38 GMT 1, PC is all you need for this in my opinion.
No amount of restoration money is going to change the beauty of the image.
The condition as it is is perfect for displaying and enjoying
PC is all you need for this in my opinion.
No amount of restoration money is going to change the beauty of the image.
The condition as it is is perfect for displaying and enjoying
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Banksy Unsigned Love Rat- Shocking condition - ADVICE, by Deleted on Aug 19, 2016 20:42:38 GMT 1, ok, i'll chuck it out there
i reckon 2.2k as is, with COA
Higher/ lower/ stick ?
ok, i'll chuck it out there
i reckon 2.2k as is, with COA
Higher/ lower/ stick ?
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Banksy Unsigned Love Rat- Shocking condition - ADVICE, by Castle Gallery NI on Aug 19, 2016 20:43:44 GMT 1, After catching up with an old friend and discussing my interest in this genre of urban art she lets loose to me that she has an old banksy print folded up in a book at home that an ex boyfriend had bought her in 2004/5. After explaining the image I knew it was Love Rat and cheekily offered ยฃ200 for it, which she quickly accepted. It's a shame I have morals so instead I explained quite how developed his market has become and i'm going to help her get pest control and then sell it for her. Condition is clearly shocking, this has never been looked after! What sort of price do you think this could achieve and is it worth trying to fix the issues? Could Bignel even do anything with this? Fk Bignobs resto's, leave the Rat alone. Lovely.
20 mins later still laughing
After catching up with an old friend and discussing my interest in this genre of urban art she lets loose to me that she has an old banksy print folded up in a book at home that an ex boyfriend had bought her in 2004/5. After explaining the image I knew it was Love Rat and cheekily offered ยฃ200 for it, which she quickly accepted. It's a shame I have morals so instead I explained quite how developed his market has become and i'm going to help her get pest control and then sell it for her. Condition is clearly shocking, this has never been looked after! What sort of price do you think this could achieve and is it worth trying to fix the issues? Could Bignel even do anything with this? Fk Bignobs resto's, leave the Rat alone. Lovely. 20 mins later still laughing
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vei
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Banksy Unsigned Love Rat- Shocking condition - ADVICE, by vei on Aug 19, 2016 20:48:51 GMT 1, ok, i'll chuck it out there i reckon 2.2k as is, with COA Higher/ lower/ stick ?
I have no idea but I though damage trashed the value of prints.
ok, i'll chuck it out there i reckon 2.2k as is, with COA Higher/ lower/ stick ? I have no idea but I though damage trashed the value of prints.
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Cornish Crayon
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Banksy Unsigned Love Rat- Shocking condition - ADVICE, by Cornish Crayon on Aug 19, 2016 20:49:32 GMT 1, Float mounted as is........
Like a barn find rusty car with shiny new alloys, it will look the nuts....
Don't restore it, this could become a very iconic piece in years to come, and I'd be happy to purchase as is.........
Float mounted as is........
Like a barn find rusty car with shiny new alloys, it will look the nuts....
Don't restore it, this could become a very iconic piece in years to come, and I'd be happy to purchase as is.........
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Aza
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Banksy Unsigned Love Rat- Shocking condition - ADVICE, by Aza on Aug 19, 2016 21:13:24 GMT 1, I agree with leaving as it is. Float mounting in a lovely frame with museum glass would make a nice contrast for it.
I agree with leaving as it is. Float mounting in a lovely frame with museum glass would make a nice contrast for it.
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yoyosh
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Banksy Unsigned Love Rat- Shocking condition - ADVICE, by yoyosh on Aug 19, 2016 21:31:26 GMT 1, I'm wow'd by the story and pictures. Wow'd by the varied reactions to what the pricing of this print could be. Does anyone know from experience if "pin holes" can be fixed with restoration?
I'm wow'd by the story and pictures. Wow'd by the varied reactions to what the pricing of this print could be. Does anyone know from experience if "pin holes" can be fixed with restoration?
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yorkie
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Banksy Unsigned Love Rat- Shocking condition - ADVICE, by yorkie on Aug 19, 2016 21:31:45 GMT 1, Nice story....
Is the ex boyfriend an ex because he was a love rat?
Get pest and your friend is in the money.
Yorkie
Nice story.... Is the ex boyfriend an ex because he was a love rat? Get pest and your friend is in the money. Yorkie
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chads007
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Banksy Unsigned Love Rat- Shocking condition - ADVICE, by chads007 on Aug 19, 2016 21:44:39 GMT 1, 2k in this condition?!
2k in this condition?!
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Poster Bob
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Banksy Unsigned Love Rat- Shocking condition - ADVICE, by Poster Bob on Aug 19, 2016 21:47:01 GMT 1, I would frame it crooked with small nails instead of adhesive. It's fucked so you might as well go all the way.
I would frame it crooked with small nails instead of adhesive. It's fucked so you might as well go all the way.
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DrWhite
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Banksy Unsigned Love Rat- Shocking condition - ADVICE, by DrWhite on Aug 19, 2016 21:47:45 GMT 1, Wouldn't it look great float mounted in a nice deep box frame just as it is !
Wouldn't it look great float mounted in a nice deep box frame just as it is !
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