Boyle44
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Bonhams Nov 16th 2016 , by Boyle44 on Nov 17, 2016 14:03:46 GMT 1, Concerns were raised about conditions of all of these, by those who were able to view I heard the condition wasn't great on any of them, far from decent and no where near mint.
Wow prices probably good then considering poor conditions
Concerns were raised about conditions of all of these, by those who were able to view I heard the condition wasn't great on any of them, far from decent and no where near mint. Wow prices probably good then considering poor conditions
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Eton Groover
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Bonhams Nov 16th 2016 , by Eton Groover on Nov 17, 2016 16:21:26 GMT 1, Prices look OK but the seller would only receive in the region of 65-70% of the actual prices above. For example the seller would get in the region of £11k for the trolleys, circa £9k for the signed CND and soup cans, and about £7k for the rude copper. It puts a lot of the prices that are asked for on here in perspective. As long as they are not ripped or creased the condition isn't that important to most people.
Prices look OK but the seller would only receive in the region of 65-70% of the actual prices above. For example the seller would get in the region of £11k for the trolleys, circa £9k for the signed CND and soup cans, and about £7k for the rude copper. It puts a lot of the prices that are asked for on here in perspective. As long as they are not ripped or creased the condition isn't that important to most people.
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Matt
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Bonhams Nov 16th 2016 , by Matt on Nov 17, 2016 16:45:33 GMT 1, Prices look OK but the seller would only receive in the region of 65-70% of the actual prices above. For example the seller would get in the region of £11k for the trolleys, circa £9k for the signed CND and soup cans, and about £7k for the rude copper. It puts a lot of the prices that are asked for on here in perspective. As long as they are not ripped or creased the condition isn't that important to most people. These are indeed quite low net for the seller, because with no more effort than a phone call most galleries would have consigned / bought for more than that
Really is down to knowing exactly how minor / major the condition issues were, because if the issues were minor all of these prints would fly at those prices, especially the RC !!
Prices look OK but the seller would only receive in the region of 65-70% of the actual prices above. For example the seller would get in the region of £11k for the trolleys, circa £9k for the signed CND and soup cans, and about £7k for the rude copper. It puts a lot of the prices that are asked for on here in perspective. As long as they are not ripped or creased the condition isn't that important to most people. These are indeed quite low net for the seller, because with no more effort than a phone call most galleries would have consigned / bought for more than that Really is down to knowing exactly how minor / major the condition issues were, because if the issues were minor all of these prints would fly at those prices, especially the RC !!
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Unica
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Bonhams Nov 16th 2016 , by Unica on Nov 17, 2016 16:54:08 GMT 1, I'm in the camp that condition is important, i'd rather pay a premium and get as close to mint as possible. My OCD would drive me crazy looking at a print with condition issues. Plus if I ever needed to sell, I know that many Banksy buyers are very condition conscious by the number of wanted posts requesting mint condition, i've not see many saying condition isn't an issue. I expect this is why the seller stuck them in the auction, hoping to get someone who didn't care or a buyer that didn't do there due diligence. Easy hassle free sale.
I'm in the camp that condition is important, i'd rather pay a premium and get as close to mint as possible. My OCD would drive me crazy looking at a print with condition issues. Plus if I ever needed to sell, I know that many Banksy buyers are very condition conscious by the number of wanted posts requesting mint condition, i've not see many saying condition isn't an issue. I expect this is why the seller stuck them in the auction, hoping to get someone who didn't care or a buyer that didn't do there due diligence. Easy hassle free sale.
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barsukauk
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Bonhams Nov 16th 2016 , by barsukauk on Nov 17, 2016 17:02:44 GMT 1, Those was total damage.... I think was the CND have hold on the 4 cournes
Those was total damage.... I think was the CND have hold on the 4 cournes
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Eton Groover
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Bonhams Nov 16th 2016 , by Eton Groover on Nov 17, 2016 17:22:53 GMT 1, There is an awful lot of price protection goes on here and the hype is self fulfilling. Every Banksy seems to go for more than the last one. One seller on here was "inundated" by offers, even some over their £11k asking price, for an unsigned Barcode when there was one sitting in a gallery for £12k. How desperate are you that you just don't pay the extra £1k. If 11k isn't a problem, then surely neither is £12!. (The unsigned gallery Barcode is still available at £12k btw) There were two Choose your Weapons at over £20k in the last few weeks. Of course none of these sales are verified or verifiable, but simply serve increase the hype and excitement about how much everyone's Banksy is worth. Banksy is very popular but not as popular as people on this forum think. In here you are preaching to the converted.
There is an awful lot of price protection goes on here and the hype is self fulfilling. Every Banksy seems to go for more than the last one. One seller on here was "inundated" by offers, even some over their £11k asking price, for an unsigned Barcode when there was one sitting in a gallery for £12k. How desperate are you that you just don't pay the extra £1k. If 11k isn't a problem, then surely neither is £12!. (The unsigned gallery Barcode is still available at £12k btw) There were two Choose your Weapons at over £20k in the last few weeks. Of course none of these sales are verified or verifiable, but simply serve increase the hype and excitement about how much everyone's Banksy is worth. Banksy is very popular but not as popular as people on this forum think. In here you are preaching to the converted.
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DrWhite
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Bonhams Nov 16th 2016 , by DrWhite on Nov 17, 2016 17:57:06 GMT 1, There is an awful lot of price protection goes on here and the hype is self fulfilling. Every Banksy seems to go for more than the last one. One seller on here was "inundated" by offers, even some over their £11k asking price, for an unsigned Barcode when there was one sitting in a gallery for £12k. How desperate are you that you just don't pay the extra £1k. If 11k isn't a problem, then surely neither is £12!. (The unsigned gallery Barcode is still available at £12k btw) There were two Choose your Weapons at over £20k in the last few weeks. Of course none of these sales are verified or verifiable, but simply serve increase the hype and excitement about how much everyone's Banksy is worth. Banksy is very popular but not as popular as people on this forum think. In here you are preaching to the converted. Makes you wonder why it is called the Banksy forum really doesn't it arahonomae?
There is an awful lot of price protection goes on here and the hype is self fulfilling. Every Banksy seems to go for more than the last one. One seller on here was "inundated" by offers, even some over their £11k asking price, for an unsigned Barcode when there was one sitting in a gallery for £12k. How desperate are you that you just don't pay the extra £1k. If 11k isn't a problem, then surely neither is £12!. (The unsigned gallery Barcode is still available at £12k btw) There were two Choose your Weapons at over £20k in the last few weeks. Of course none of these sales are verified or verifiable, but simply serve increase the hype and excitement about how much everyone's Banksy is worth. Banksy is very popular but not as popular as people on this forum think. In here you are preaching to the converted. Makes you wonder why it is called the Banksy forum really doesn't it arahonomae?
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Bonhams Nov 16th 2016 , by FЯ on Nov 17, 2016 18:14:48 GMT 1, There is an awful lot of price protection goes on here and the hype is self fulfilling. Every Banksy seems to go for more than the last one. One seller on here was "inundated" by offers, even some over their £11k asking price, for an unsigned Barcode when there was one sitting in a gallery for £12k. How desperate are you that you just don't pay the extra £1k. If 11k isn't a problem, then surely neither is £12!. (The unsigned gallery Barcode is still available at £12k btw) There were two Choose your Weapons at over £20k in the last few weeks. Of course none of these sales are verified or verifiable, but simply serve increase the hype and excitement about how much everyone's Banksy is worth. Banksy is very popular but not as popular as people on this forum think. In here you are preaching to the converted. Makes you wonder why it is called the Banksy forum really doesn't it arahonomae? Dont think its been called that for years
There is an awful lot of price protection goes on here and the hype is self fulfilling. Every Banksy seems to go for more than the last one. One seller on here was "inundated" by offers, even some over their £11k asking price, for an unsigned Barcode when there was one sitting in a gallery for £12k. How desperate are you that you just don't pay the extra £1k. If 11k isn't a problem, then surely neither is £12!. (The unsigned gallery Barcode is still available at £12k btw) There were two Choose your Weapons at over £20k in the last few weeks. Of course none of these sales are verified or verifiable, but simply serve increase the hype and excitement about how much everyone's Banksy is worth. Banksy is very popular but not as popular as people on this forum think. In here you are preaching to the converted. Makes you wonder why it is called the Banksy forum really doesn't it arahonomae? Dont think its been called that for years
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Eton Groover
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Bonhams Nov 16th 2016 , by Eton Groover on Nov 17, 2016 18:22:38 GMT 1, There is an awful lot of price protection goes on here and the hype is self fulfilling. Every Banksy seems to go for more than the last one. One seller on here was "inundated" by offers, even some over their £11k asking price, for an unsigned Barcode when there was one sitting in a gallery for £12k. How desperate are you that you just don't pay the extra £1k. If 11k isn't a problem, then surely neither is £12!. (The unsigned gallery Barcode is still available at £12k btw) There were two Choose your Weapons at over £20k in the last few weeks. Of course none of these sales are verified or verifiable, but simply serve increase the hype and excitement about how much everyone's Banksy is worth. Banksy is very popular but not as popular as people on this forum think. In here you are preaching to the converted. Makes you wonder why it is called the Banksy forum really doesn't it arahonomae?
As FR said it hasn't been called it for a long time. And what point are you trying to make by using my old user name? Maybe just getting touchy about what I'm saying. It must have hit a nerve
There is an awful lot of price protection goes on here and the hype is self fulfilling. Every Banksy seems to go for more than the last one. One seller on here was "inundated" by offers, even some over their £11k asking price, for an unsigned Barcode when there was one sitting in a gallery for £12k. How desperate are you that you just don't pay the extra £1k. If 11k isn't a problem, then surely neither is £12!. (The unsigned gallery Barcode is still available at £12k btw) There were two Choose your Weapons at over £20k in the last few weeks. Of course none of these sales are verified or verifiable, but simply serve increase the hype and excitement about how much everyone's Banksy is worth. Banksy is very popular but not as popular as people on this forum think. In here you are preaching to the converted. Makes you wonder why it is called the Banksy forum really doesn't it arahonomae? As FR said it hasn't been called it for a long time. And what point are you trying to make by using my old user name? Maybe just getting touchy about what I'm saying. It must have hit a nerve
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DrWhite
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Bonhams Nov 16th 2016 , by DrWhite on Nov 17, 2016 19:05:33 GMT 1, Makes you wonder why it is called the Banksy forum really doesn't it arahonomae? As FR said it hasn't been called it for a long time. And what point are you trying to make by using my old user name? Maybe just getting touchy about what I'm saying. It must have hit a nerve I'm just amazed that you believe that the prices here on this forum somehow influence the art market in general or Banksy pricing in particular? I suspect you overestimate the power of the musings of some of the contributors here. As for the user name - I was trying to tag you, but maybe you've had to change it for a reason and I must have hit a nerve ?. You appear fixated with that barcode sale & the fact that another is still available at prescription art for a slightly higher price, maybe you need another hobby to pass the time constructively?
Makes you wonder why it is called the Banksy forum really doesn't it arahonomae? As FR said it hasn't been called it for a long time. And what point are you trying to make by using my old user name? Maybe just getting touchy about what I'm saying. It must have hit a nerve I'm just amazed that you believe that the prices here on this forum somehow influence the art market in general or Banksy pricing in particular? I suspect you overestimate the power of the musings of some of the contributors here. As for the user name - I was trying to tag you, but maybe you've had to change it for a reason and I must have hit a nerve ?. You appear fixated with that barcode sale & the fact that another is still available at prescription art for a slightly higher price, maybe you need another hobby to pass the time constructively?
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Bonhams Nov 16th 2016 , by highflyer on Nov 17, 2016 19:50:19 GMT 1, There is an awful lot of price protection goes on here and the hype is self fulfilling. Every Banksy seems to go for more than the last one. One seller on here was "inundated" by offers, even some over their £11k asking price, for an unsigned Barcode when there was one sitting in a gallery for £12k. How desperate are you that you just don't pay the extra £1k. If 11k isn't a problem, then surely neither is £12!. (The unsigned gallery Barcode is still available at £12k btw) There were two Choose your Weapons at over £20k in the last few weeks. Of course none of these sales are verified or verifiable, but simply serve increase the hype and excitement about how much everyone's Banksy is worth. Banksy is very popular but not as popular as people on this forum think. In here you are preaching to the converted.
That's a bit of a strange thing to say after the recent Banksy Forum Auction in London town. I think all the prints went for a lot more than what they are being sold for on here - certainly including buyers premium. Secondly, £1,000 is a fair bit of money to some people. Why pay 12k if you can pay £11k would be a more sensible view. Thirdly, I went specifically to prescription art (took a chunk out of my day) recently to look at a few pieces...they couldn't even be bothered to open up on time and the place looked a mess. Some people prefer to go private as they know galleries take a large slice and seem to think all prints they have are mint. Anyway, each to their own.
There is an awful lot of price protection goes on here and the hype is self fulfilling. Every Banksy seems to go for more than the last one. One seller on here was "inundated" by offers, even some over their £11k asking price, for an unsigned Barcode when there was one sitting in a gallery for £12k. How desperate are you that you just don't pay the extra £1k. If 11k isn't a problem, then surely neither is £12!. (The unsigned gallery Barcode is still available at £12k btw) There were two Choose your Weapons at over £20k in the last few weeks. Of course none of these sales are verified or verifiable, but simply serve increase the hype and excitement about how much everyone's Banksy is worth. Banksy is very popular but not as popular as people on this forum think. In here you are preaching to the converted. That's a bit of a strange thing to say after the recent Banksy Forum Auction in London town. I think all the prints went for a lot more than what they are being sold for on here - certainly including buyers premium. Secondly, £1,000 is a fair bit of money to some people. Why pay 12k if you can pay £11k would be a more sensible view. Thirdly, I went specifically to prescription art (took a chunk out of my day) recently to look at a few pieces...they couldn't even be bothered to open up on time and the place looked a mess. Some people prefer to go private as they know galleries take a large slice and seem to think all prints they have are mint. Anyway, each to their own.
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jp
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Bonhams Nov 16th 2016 , by jp on Nov 17, 2016 23:40:52 GMT 1, Makes you wonder why it is called the Banksy forum really doesn't it arahonomae? Dont think its been called that for years It's still called that for me. I'm looking at:
urbanartassociation.com/thread/142039/bonhams-nov-16th-2016?page=2
Perhaps the site resolves to multiple DNS names.
Edit: well I'll be damned. When I posted, the site changed http:// banksyforum . proboards . com/ to urbanartassociation.com, so definitely it is a DNS alias.
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Bonhams Nov 16th 2016 , by covertshadowops on Nov 21, 2016 13:00:47 GMT 1, Bonhams today.. Banksy watchtower sold for $200,00HKD including premium (£21K approx)
www.bonhams.com/auctions/23353/lot/170/
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