sesssion
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Sotheby's contemporary art day auction , by sesssion on Jun 28, 2017 17:39:01 GMT 1, Banksy lot number 256 and KAWS lot number 142 and 145
Banksy lot number 256 and KAWS lot number 142 and 145
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Viking Surfer
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Sotheby's contemporary art day auction , by Viking Surfer on Jun 29, 2017 9:24:48 GMT 1, Thanks for the info but it'd be much better if you could post links next time for those of us on phones etc.
Thanks for the info but it'd be much better if you could post links next time for those of us on phones etc.
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silvermyn
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Sotheby's contemporary art day auction , by silvermyn on Jun 29, 2017 11:19:33 GMT 1, ...just a bit.
Did the owner suddenly remeber that he/she had this in the shed at the bottom of the garden or something?
...just a bit.
Did the owner suddenly remeber that he/she had this in the shed at the bottom of the garden or something?
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Shoot Again
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Sotheby's contemporary art day auction , by Shoot Again on Jun 29, 2017 12:11:29 GMT 1, Not much love for KAWS ;-( #142 got only one (floor) bid and hammered/sold for ยฃ70K while #145 went only up to ยฃ80K so finished unsold
Not much love for KAWS ;-( #142 got only one (floor) bid and hammered/sold for ยฃ70K while #145 went only up to ยฃ80K so finished unsold
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Shoot Again
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jB
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Sotheby's contemporary art day auction , by jB on Jun 29, 2017 16:08:21 GMT 1,
105,000$ after all said and done. I may be in the minority, but I kind of like the roughness on this, and think its a pretty good deal for size and edition. The canvas is over 17 years old and in my mind was probably thrown around in the studio back in the day before being given away or sold on. Quite like the imagery as well. Classic Banksy.
105,000$ after all said and done. I may be in the minority, but I kind of like the roughness on this, and think its a pretty good deal for size and edition. The canvas is over 17 years old and in my mind was probably thrown around in the studio back in the day before being given away or sold on. Quite like the imagery as well. Classic Banksy.
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adewilliams
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Sotheby's contemporary art day auction , by adewilliams on Jun 29, 2017 16:25:18 GMT 1, surely you take that every day over any print. Steal
surely you take that every day over any print. Steal
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Unica
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Sotheby's contemporary art day auction , by Unica on Jun 29, 2017 16:25:26 GMT 1, 105,000$ after all said and done. I may be in the minority, but I kind of like the roughness on this, and think its a pretty good deal for size and edition. The canvas is over 17 years old and in my mind was probably thrown around in the studio back in the day before being given away or sold on. Quite like the imagery as well. Classic Banksy. I like the image, I don't mind the scuffs on the pink. But all the cracking on the figures would bother me. I think its a fair price for the buyer and seller. And yes i'd take that over a print any day, the artist obviously spent some time on it. Well an hour or two.
105,000$ after all said and done. I may be in the minority, but I kind of like the roughness on this, and think its a pretty good deal for size and edition. The canvas is over 17 years old and in my mind was probably thrown around in the studio back in the day before being given away or sold on. Quite like the imagery as well. Classic Banksy. I like the image, I don't mind the scuffs on the pink. But all the cracking on the figures would bother me. I think its a fair price for the buyer and seller. And yes i'd take that over a print any day, the artist obviously spent some time on it. Well an hour or two.
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adewilliams
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Sotheby's contemporary art day auction , by adewilliams on Jun 29, 2017 16:47:09 GMT 1, 105,000$ after all said and done. I may be in the minority, but I kind of like the roughness on this, and think its a pretty good deal for size and edition. The canvas is over 17 years old and in my mind was probably thrown around in the studio back in the day before being given away or sold on. Quite like the imagery as well. Classic Banksy. I like the image, I don't mind the scuffs on the pink. But all the cracking on the figures would bother me. I think its a fair price for the buyer and seller. And yes i'd take that over a print any day, the artist obviously spent some time on it. Well an hour or two. I hear you. That flat pink was a considerable effort
105,000$ after all said and done. I may be in the minority, but I kind of like the roughness on this, and think its a pretty good deal for size and edition. The canvas is over 17 years old and in my mind was probably thrown around in the studio back in the day before being given away or sold on. Quite like the imagery as well. Classic Banksy. I like the image, I don't mind the scuffs on the pink. But all the cracking on the figures would bother me. I think its a fair price for the buyer and seller. And yes i'd take that over a print any day, the artist obviously spent some time on it. Well an hour or two. I hear you. That flat pink was a considerable effort
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Black Apple Art
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Sotheby's contemporary art day auction , by Black Apple Art on Jun 29, 2017 17:05:41 GMT 1, 105,000$ after all said and done. I may be in the minority, but I kind of like the roughness on this, and think its a pretty good deal for size and edition. The canvas is over 17 years old and in my mind was probably thrown around in the studio back in the day before being given away or sold on. Quite like the imagery as well. Classic Banksy. I like the image, I don't mind the scuffs on the pink. But all the cracking on the figures would bother me. I think its a fair price for the buyer and seller. And yes i'd take that over a print any day, the artist obviously spent some time on it. Well an hour or two. Saw it in person last week and was pretty much the worst condition original I have ever seen at auction.
105,000$ after all said and done. I may be in the minority, but I kind of like the roughness on this, and think its a pretty good deal for size and edition. The canvas is over 17 years old and in my mind was probably thrown around in the studio back in the day before being given away or sold on. Quite like the imagery as well. Classic Banksy. I like the image, I don't mind the scuffs on the pink. But all the cracking on the figures would bother me. I think its a fair price for the buyer and seller. And yes i'd take that over a print any day, the artist obviously spent some time on it. Well an hour or two. Saw it in person last week and was pretty much the worst condition original I have ever seen at auction.
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rosac
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Sotheby's contemporary art day auction , by rosac on Jun 29, 2017 17:09:48 GMT 1, Ow dear
Ow dear
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lee3
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Sotheby's contemporary art day auction , by lee3 on Jun 29, 2017 17:42:53 GMT 1, The cracking everyone is highlighting is very common in the colored early works. Even the red laugh now at bonhams today has it up and down the left side. I had a green one that suffered the same. The reason for the cracking is that many of the early colored canvases through '02 were painted on unprimed canvases so they continue to expand and contract as temperatures increase and decrease in the environment they reside. I believe by '03 he had remedied this but always important to look with a keen eye at the early ones and it has nothing to do with the storage or care given to these by the artist or owners. I spoke with pest control at length about it and they recommended a restorer (Julia Nagel conversation). The solution is to heat the canvas up carefully which will expand the canvas and then glue it (she used honeycomb) to a hard wood or metal surface. Mine was far worse than the pink above and she did an amazing job removing all of the visible cracks.
But, then the owner is left with a canvas that is hard as a rock which depending on how you look at it can make resale more difficult. If it is not remedied, then these canvases will continue to degrade over time so slightly a case of damned if you do/don't but certainly more problematic if ignored. My fix over a decade ago cost about ~$3.5k from memory. Excuse the poor photos but all of those cracks disappeared and the paint looked uniform even from a distance of a few cm:
The cracking everyone is highlighting is very common in the colored early works. Even the red laugh now at bonhams today has it up and down the left side. I had a green one that suffered the same. The reason for the cracking is that many of the early colored canvases through '02 were painted on unprimed canvases so they continue to expand and contract as temperatures increase and decrease in the environment they reside. I believe by '03 he had remedied this but always important to look with a keen eye at the early ones and it has nothing to do with the storage or care given to these by the artist or owners. I spoke with pest control at length about it and they recommended a restorer (Julia Nagel conversation). The solution is to heat the canvas up carefully which will expand the canvas and then glue it (she used honeycomb) to a hard wood or metal surface. Mine was far worse than the pink above and she did an amazing job removing all of the visible cracks. But, then the owner is left with a canvas that is hard as a rock which depending on how you look at it can make resale more difficult. If it is not remedied, then these canvases will continue to degrade over time so slightly a case of damned if you do/don't but certainly more problematic if ignored. My fix over a decade ago cost about ~$3.5k from memory. Excuse the poor photos but all of those cracks disappeared and the paint looked uniform even from a distance of a few cm:
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jB
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Sotheby's contemporary art day auction , by jB on Jun 29, 2017 17:49:57 GMT 1, The cracking everyone is highlighting is very common in the colored early works. Even the red laugh now at bonhams today has it up and down the left side. I had a green one that suffered the same. The reason for the cracking is that many of the early colored canvases through '02 were painted on unprimed canvases so they continue to expand and contract as temperatures increase and decrease in the environment they reside. I believe by '03 he had remedied this but always important to look with a keen eye at the early ones and it has nothing to do with the storage or care given to these by the artist or owners. I spoke with pest control at length about it and they recommended a restorer (Julia Nagel conversation). The solution is to heat the canvas up carefully which will expand the canvas and then glue it (she used honeycomb) to a hard wood or metal surface. Mine was far worse than the pink above and she did an amazing job removing all of the visible cracks. But, then the owner is left with a canvas that is hard as a rock which depending on how you look at it can make resale more difficult. If it is not remedied, then these canvases will continue to degrade over time so slightly a case of damned if you do/don't but certainly more problematic if ignored. My fix over a decade ago cost about ~$3.5k from memory. Excuse the poor photos but all of those cracks disappeared and the paint looked uniform even from a distance of a few cm: Always love seeing these sort of pieces sans glass. Nice one Lee!
The cracking everyone is highlighting is very common in the colored early works. Even the red laugh now at bonhams today has it up and down the left side. I had a green one that suffered the same. The reason for the cracking is that many of the early colored canvases through '02 were painted on unprimed canvases so they continue to expand and contract as temperatures increase and decrease in the environment they reside. I believe by '03 he had remedied this but always important to look with a keen eye at the early ones and it has nothing to do with the storage or care given to these by the artist or owners. I spoke with pest control at length about it and they recommended a restorer (Julia Nagel conversation). The solution is to heat the canvas up carefully which will expand the canvas and then glue it (she used honeycomb) to a hard wood or metal surface. Mine was far worse than the pink above and she did an amazing job removing all of the visible cracks. But, then the owner is left with a canvas that is hard as a rock which depending on how you look at it can make resale more difficult. If it is not remedied, then these canvases will continue to degrade over time so slightly a case of damned if you do/don't but certainly more problematic if ignored. My fix over a decade ago cost about ~$3.5k from memory. Excuse the poor photos but all of those cracks disappeared and the paint looked uniform even from a distance of a few cm: Always love seeing these sort of pieces sans glass. Nice one Lee!
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lee3
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Sotheby's contemporary art day auction , by lee3 on Jun 29, 2017 17:57:07 GMT 1, ^those are very old photos bud with vomit yellow interior that lasted about a month and the framing on that other piece is horrific. Monkey looks good tho
^those are very old photos bud with vomit yellow interior that lasted about a month and the framing on that other piece is horrific. Monkey looks good tho
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shygetshigh83
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Sotheby's contemporary art day auction , by shygetshigh83 on Jun 30, 2017 18:47:55 GMT 1, Not much love for KAWS ;-( #142 got only one (floor) bid and hammered/sold for ยฃ70K while #145 went only up to ยฃ80K so finished unsold
Seems strong results to me Shoot Again as Sotheby website report.. lot #142 ยฃ87.5k and lot #145 ยฃ162k!!!
Not much love for KAWS ;-( #142 got only one (floor) bid and hammered/sold for ยฃ70K while #145 went only up to ยฃ80K so finished unsold Seems strong results to me Shoot Again as Sotheby website report.. lot #142 ยฃ87.5k and lot #145 ยฃ162k!!!
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shygetshigh83
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Sotheby's contemporary art day auction , by shygetshigh83 on Jun 30, 2017 18:49:38 GMT 1, The cracking everyone is highlighting is very common in the colored early works. Even the red laugh now at bonhams today has it up and down the left side. ย I had a green one that suffered the same. The reason for the cracking is that many of the early colored canvases through '02 were painted on unprimed canvases so they continue to expand and contract as temperatures increase and decrease in the environment they reside. ย I believe by '03 he had remedied this but always important to look with a keen eye at the early ones and it has nothing to do with the storage or care given to these by the artist or owners. ย I spoke with pest control at length about it and they recommended a restorer (Julia Nagel conversation). The solution is to heat the canvas up carefully which will expand the canvas and then glue it (she used honeycomb) to a hard wood or metal surface. Mine was far worse than the pink above and she did an amazing job removing all of the visible cracks. But, then the owner is left with a canvas that is hard as a rock which depending on how you look at it can make resale more difficult. If it is not remedied, then these canvases will continue to degrade over time so slightly a case of damned if you do/don't but certainly more problematic if ignored. My fix over a decade ago cost about ~$3.5k from memory. ย Excuse the poor photos but all of those cracks disappeared and the paint looked uniform even from a distance of a few cm:
What a collection! Envy! Congrats mate
The cracking everyone is highlighting is very common in the colored early works. Even the red laugh now at bonhams today has it up and down the left side. ย I had a green one that suffered the same. The reason for the cracking is that many of the early colored canvases through '02 were painted on unprimed canvases so they continue to expand and contract as temperatures increase and decrease in the environment they reside. ย I believe by '03 he had remedied this but always important to look with a keen eye at the early ones and it has nothing to do with the storage or care given to these by the artist or owners. ย I spoke with pest control at length about it and they recommended a restorer (Julia Nagel conversation). The solution is to heat the canvas up carefully which will expand the canvas and then glue it (she used honeycomb) to a hard wood or metal surface. Mine was far worse than the pink above and she did an amazing job removing all of the visible cracks. But, then the owner is left with a canvas that is hard as a rock which depending on how you look at it can make resale more difficult. If it is not remedied, then these canvases will continue to degrade over time so slightly a case of damned if you do/don't but certainly more problematic if ignored. My fix over a decade ago cost about ~$3.5k from memory. ย Excuse the poor photos but all of those cracks disappeared and the paint looked uniform even from a distance of a few cm: What a collection! Envy! Congrats mate
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Sotheby's contemporary art day auction , by Shoot Again on Jul 3, 2017 8:00:29 GMT 1, Not much love for KAWS ;-( #142 got only one (floor) bid and hammered/sold for ยฃ70K while #145 went only up to ยฃ80K so finished unsold Seems strong results to me Shoot Again as Sotheby website report.. lot #142 ยฃ87.5k and lot #145 ยฃ162k!!! Weird as I was following live online but must have had some kind of delays or whatever issues... sorry for wrong info
Not much love for KAWS ;-( #142 got only one (floor) bid and hammered/sold for ยฃ70K while #145 went only up to ยฃ80K so finished unsold Seems strong results to me Shoot Again as Sotheby website report.. lot #142 ยฃ87.5k and lot #145 ยฃ162k!!! Weird as I was following live online but must have had some kind of delays or whatever issues... sorry for wrong info
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