jeeves
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Martin Whatson - general thoughts?, by jeeves on Nov 23, 2017 10:37:36 GMT 1, Hi all,
This guys seems super popular so if possible could some fans out there to explain what it is they like about his stuff please?
I have never seen someone regurgitate the exact same idea over and over and over again and loads of people still love it.. How long can someone just put the exact same graff scrible on different animals/objects?!
The one thing I do find interesting is trying to guess what is next to get the treatment - have seen a yacht, an iguana, a tutu, a statue - maybe a toaster perhaps?..
Is the appeal that people see his graff scribble as cool and urban or something?
This is a genuine question, I am not trying to be facetious / offensive or something. Of course a big part of appreciating art is having your own tastes and I respect that / don't judge anyone for it at all - I just really, genuinely want to understand!
Cheers
Hi all,
This guys seems super popular so if possible could some fans out there to explain what it is they like about his stuff please?
I have never seen someone regurgitate the exact same idea over and over and over again and loads of people still love it.. How long can someone just put the exact same graff scrible on different animals/objects?!
The one thing I do find interesting is trying to guess what is next to get the treatment - have seen a yacht, an iguana, a tutu, a statue - maybe a toaster perhaps?..
Is the appeal that people see his graff scribble as cool and urban or something?
This is a genuine question, I am not trying to be facetious / offensive or something. Of course a big part of appreciating art is having your own tastes and I respect that / don't judge anyone for it at all - I just really, genuinely want to understand!
Cheers
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Majestic
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Martin Whatson - general thoughts?, by Majestic on Nov 23, 2017 10:42:51 GMT 1, What's to understand? You either like what you see and want it on your wall, or you don't. Isn't that what art is?
The subject has been done to death tbh - do a bit of research on the forum and you will find plenty of threads debating this over and over.
Seems like you're just trying to provoke a reaction.
What's to understand? You either like what you see and want it on your wall, or you don't. Isn't that what art is?
The subject has been done to death tbh - do a bit of research on the forum and you will find plenty of threads debating this over and over.
Seems like you're just trying to provoke a reaction.
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wigs
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Martin Whatson - general thoughts?, by wigs on Nov 23, 2017 10:57:24 GMT 1, These guys (www.thetoaster.co.uk) have already cornered the toaster market so I don't think that will be his next effort
These guys (www.thetoaster.co.uk) have already cornered the toaster market so I don't think that will be his next effort
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rosac
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Martin Whatson - general thoughts?, by rosac on Nov 23, 2017 10:58:29 GMT 1, Hi all, This guys seems super popular so if possible could some fans out there to explain what it is they like about his stuff please? I have never seen someone regurgitate the exact same idea over and over and over again and loads of people still love it.. How long can someone just put the exact same graff scrible on different animals/objects?! The one thing I do find interesting is trying to guess what is next to get the treatment - have seen a yacht, an iguana, a tutu, a statue - maybe a toaster perhaps?.. Is the appeal that people see his graff scribble as cool and urban or something? This is a genuine question, I am not trying to be facetious / offensive or something. Of course a big part of appreciating art is having your own tastes and I respect that / don't judge anyone for it at all - I just really, genuinely want to understand! Cheers
Hi all, This guys seems super popular so if possible could some fans out there to explain what it is they like about his stuff please? I have never seen someone regurgitate the exact same idea over and over and over again and loads of people still love it.. How long can someone just put the exact same graff scrible on different animals/objects?! The one thing I do find interesting is trying to guess what is next to get the treatment - have seen a yacht, an iguana, a tutu, a statue - maybe a toaster perhaps?.. Is the appeal that people see his graff scribble as cool and urban or something? This is a genuine question, I am not trying to be facetious / offensive or something. Of course a big part of appreciating art is having your own tastes and I respect that / don't judge anyone for it at all - I just really, genuinely want to understand! Cheers You dont have to like or understand everything mate (as you said). If everyone like the same things the world would be a boring place. I think you answered your own question. As you say its just graffing over objects, i wouldnt lose sleep over it. |
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jeeves
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Martin Whatson - general thoughts?, by jeeves on Nov 23, 2017 11:09:20 GMT 1, Indeed I don't have to like or understand everything but I just want to understand this - perhaps I am missing something..
Apologise for not trawling thru the archives first - will take a look
Indeed I don't have to like or understand everything but I just want to understand this - perhaps I am missing something..
Apologise for not trawling thru the archives first - will take a look
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Express Post
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Martin Whatson - general thoughts?, by Express Post on Nov 23, 2017 11:14:05 GMT 1, Hi all, This guys seems super popular so if possible could some fans out there to explain what it is they like about his stuff please? I have never seen someone regurgitate the exact same idea over and over and over again and loads of people still love it.. How long can someone just put the exact same graff scrible on different animals/objects?!ย The one thing I do find interesting is trying to guess what is next to get the treatment - have seen a yacht, an iguana, a tutu, a statue - maybe a toaster perhaps?.. Is the appeal that people see his graff scribble as cool and urban or something? This is a genuine question, I am not trying to be facetious / offensive or something. Of course a big part of appreciating art is having your own tastes and I respect that / don't judge anyone for it at all - I just really, genuinely want to understand! Cheers
His art pairs well with the latest in interior design. The work comes across as bold and edgy for the uninitiated. His modus operandi is to stencil something representational, and then rainbow it up in his graffiti-esque style of writing.
However you are already on this board, so your awareness and appreciation of art runs a little deeper. You and others before you have questioned the meaning of his work, going around in circles with no end.
His work is accessible. It is collected by thousands and loved by tens of thousands outside this community. While some of the board may thumb their noses at his work and will continue to do so, he no longer needs the board's support.
Plus it doesn't hurt that the print quality that gp put out for him are the gold standard in affordable print editions. I.e. Where can you find 50 by 70 CM 28 layered silkscreens for 250quid?
Hi all, This guys seems super popular so if possible could some fans out there to explain what it is they like about his stuff please? I have never seen someone regurgitate the exact same idea over and over and over again and loads of people still love it.. How long can someone just put the exact same graff scrible on different animals/objects?!ย The one thing I do find interesting is trying to guess what is next to get the treatment - have seen a yacht, an iguana, a tutu, a statue - maybe a toaster perhaps?.. Is the appeal that people see his graff scribble as cool and urban or something? This is a genuine question, I am not trying to be facetious / offensive or something. Of course a big part of appreciating art is having your own tastes and I respect that / don't judge anyone for it at all - I just really, genuinely want to understand! Cheers His art pairs well with the latest in interior design. The work comes across as bold and edgy for the uninitiated. His modus operandi is to stencil something representational, and then rainbow it up in his graffiti-esque style of writing. However you are already on this board, so your awareness and appreciation of art runs a little deeper. You and others before you have questioned the meaning of his work, going around in circles with no end. His work is accessible. It is collected by thousands and loved by tens of thousands outside this community. While some of the board may thumb their noses at his work and will continue to do so, he no longer needs the board's support. Plus it doesn't hurt that the print quality that gp put out for him are the gold standard in affordable print editions. I.e. Where can you find 50 by 70 CM 28 layered silkscreens for 250quid? |
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Express Post
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Martin Whatson - general thoughts?, by Express Post on Nov 23, 2017 11:16:24 GMT 1, And demand for his works on the secondary market is strong. Upside for purchasing at retail.
And demand for his works on the secondary market is strong. Upside for purchasing at retail.
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Dive Jedi
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Martin Whatson - general thoughts?, by Dive Jedi on Nov 23, 2017 11:17:01 GMT 1, Indeed I don't have to like or understand everything but I just want to understand this - perhaps I am missing something.. Apologise for not trawling thru the archives first - will take a look
Haven't seen anyone asking about that. Perhaps you care to explain that to me then.
Don't like it? Don't buy it!
Indeed I don't have to like or understand everything but I just want to understand this - perhaps I am missing something.. Apologise for not trawling thru the archives first - will take a look Hirst did 1.365 paintings of colourful dots. Before the a$$hole started to kill sharks. Haven't seen anyone asking about that. Perhaps you care to explain that to me then. Don't like it? Don't buy it! |
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Martin Whatson - general thoughts?, by whob1 on Nov 23, 2017 11:55:08 GMT 1, Hi all, This guys seems super popular so if possible could some fans out there to explain what it is they like about his stuff please? I have never seen someone regurgitate the exact same idea over and over and over again and loads of people still love it.. How long can someone just put the exact same graff scrible on different animals/objects?! The one thing I do find interesting is trying to guess what is next to get the treatment - have seen a yacht, an iguana, a tutu, a statue - maybe a toaster perhaps?.. Is the appeal that people see his graff scribble as cool and urban or something? This is a genuine question, I am not trying to be facetious / offensive or something. Of course a big part of appreciating art is having your own tastes and I respect that / don't judge anyone for it at all - I just really, genuinely want to understand! Cheers
Hi all, This guys seems super popular so if possible could some fans out there to explain what it is they like about his stuff please? I have never seen someone regurgitate the exact same idea over and over and over again and loads of people still love it.. How long can someone just put the exact same graff scrible on different animals/objects?! The one thing I do find interesting is trying to guess what is next to get the treatment - have seen a yacht, an iguana, a tutu, a statue - maybe a toaster perhaps?.. Is the appeal that people see his graff scribble as cool and urban or something? This is a genuine question, I am not trying to be facetious / offensive or something. Of course a big part of appreciating art is having your own tastes and I respect that / don't judge anyone for it at all - I just really, genuinely want to understand! Cheers Well, first of all this is not correct. You cant pick just some of his works and make a conclusion. Just lack of knowledge then. Eternal reflection, chinook hearts etc, quality. Yes, then he also has this "graff scible" going on, but people find his works affordable, eyecathing, colorfull, it adds something to nice images. Many other artists have their style which they tend to repeat, Chevrier etc. |
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Martin Whatson - general thoughts?, by darren6 on Nov 23, 2017 12:01:02 GMT 1, Hi all, This guys seems super popular so if possible could some fans out there to explain what it is they like about his stuff please? I have never seen someone regurgitate the exact same idea over and over and over again and loads of people still love it.. How long can someone just put the exact same graff scrible on different animals/objects?! The one thing I do find interesting is trying to guess what is next to get the treatment - have seen a yacht, an iguana, a tutu, a statue - maybe a toaster perhaps?.. Is the appeal that people see his graff scribble as cool and urban or something? This is a genuine question, I am not trying to be facetious / offensive or something. Of course a big part of appreciating art is having your own tastes and I respect that / don't judge anyone for it at all - I just really, genuinely want to understand! Cheers
Hush - Same image and design over loads of prints
Invader - Tiles style
Pure Evil - Always same style of eye drop
etc etc etc
If you like his work, you like his work. Doesn't matter if he does the same stuff/style.
Personally I love it. I like the bright colours over the black and white images.
Hi all, This guys seems super popular so if possible could some fans out there to explain what it is they like about his stuff please? I have never seen someone regurgitate the exact same idea over and over and over again and loads of people still love it.. How long can someone just put the exact same graff scrible on different animals/objects?! The one thing I do find interesting is trying to guess what is next to get the treatment - have seen a yacht, an iguana, a tutu, a statue - maybe a toaster perhaps?.. Is the appeal that people see his graff scribble as cool and urban or something? This is a genuine question, I am not trying to be facetious / offensive or something. Of course a big part of appreciating art is having your own tastes and I respect that / don't judge anyone for it at all - I just really, genuinely want to understand! Cheers You can say the same thing about soooo may artists. Hush - Same image and design over loads of prints Invader - Tiles style Pure Evil - Always same style of eye drop etc etc etc If you like his work, you like his work. Doesn't matter if he does the same stuff/style. Personally I love it. I like the bright colours over the black and white images. |
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Martin Whatson - general thoughts?, by Art Fan 2011 on Nov 23, 2017 12:47:38 GMT 1, ^^ You forgot STIK 
^^ You forgot STIK |
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artgrenade
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Martin Whatson - general thoughts?, by artgrenade on Nov 23, 2017 13:22:57 GMT 1, Absolute bollocks as usual. Ditto Dave White, Pure Evil, Hush.
Absolute bollocks as usual. Ditto Dave White, Pure Evil, Hush.
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Martin Whatson - general thoughts?, by Lunch Special on Nov 23, 2017 13:41:53 GMT 1, Artists go through progressional phases and some get stuck and some stick to what works. I own martin whatson's first print Qrelease the washer from edge art in 2009. Paid ยฃ25 plus shipping. Since then I've purchased directly from the old control84 site a bunch of his earlier prints. I also have eternal reflection, one small step, a small gold chinooks unsigned and behind the curtain. Never thought of him as a one trick pony. I look at it more as a step or a stop in an artists ever changing progress.
As far as hush, never interested me.
The damien hirst spots are cool. Never got into them either got some of the supreme decks that's about it. Stik is whatever's not much artistic or creative process I don't think. Just very relevant and impactful with a general innocence to them that makes them so desirables guessing.
Artists go through progressional phases and some get stuck and some stick to what works. I own martin whatson's first print Qrelease the washer from edge art in 2009. Paid ยฃ25 plus shipping. Since then I've purchased directly from the old control84 site a bunch of his earlier prints. I also have eternal reflection, one small step, a small gold chinooks unsigned and behind the curtain. Never thought of him as a one trick pony. I look at it more as a step or a stop in an artists ever changing progress.
As far as hush, never interested me.
The damien hirst spots are cool. Never got into them either got some of the supreme decks that's about it. Stik is whatever's not much artistic or creative process I don't think. Just very relevant and impactful with a general innocence to them that makes them so desirables guessing.
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aki
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Martin Whatson - general thoughts?, by aki on Nov 23, 2017 13:50:45 GMT 1, Basically if you have no interest in urban art and have know idea who he is or who heโs copied, some of martins stuff when hung on a wall looks good. Everyone whoโs seen my new dancer print loves it they now nothing about art apart from if it looks good. If I had the same dancer on my wall with out the tagging I think theyโd be asking wtf do you have a ballet dancer on your wall for?
The tagging work with some stuff not with other. Itโs also affordable if bought at retail.
My 2p.
Basically if you have no interest in urban art and have know idea who he is or who heโs copied, some of martins stuff when hung on a wall looks good. Everyone whoโs seen my new dancer print loves it they now nothing about art apart from if it looks good. If I had the same dancer on my wall with out the tagging I think theyโd be asking wtf do you have a ballet dancer on your wall for?
The tagging work with some stuff not with other. Itโs also affordable if bought at retail.
My 2p.
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jeeves
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Martin Whatson - general thoughts?, by jeeves on Nov 23, 2017 17:35:21 GMT 1, Thanks all, some interesting thoughts. I think I agree that it is about easy accessibility, the initial idea is interesting indeed and I imagine a lot of people that buy his stuff do not see (or maybe care) that it is just all the same. Must be quite an easy buck doing it like him and catering for somewhat of a mass market who want just to affordably dip their toe into something 'urban', hmmm just need a half decent idea now..
Thanks all, some interesting thoughts. I think I agree that it is about easy accessibility, the initial idea is interesting indeed and I imagine a lot of people that buy his stuff do not see (or maybe care) that it is just all the same. Must be quite an easy buck doing it like him and catering for somewhat of a mass market who want just to affordably dip their toe into something 'urban', hmmm just need a half decent idea now..
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Martin Whatson - general thoughts?, by moron on Nov 23, 2017 18:12:22 GMT 1, As above. It's decorative, colorful, wall friendly, safe, Banksy lite. Sold by middle of the road galleries with good sales pitch to most probably young professional couples under the guise of original art that will hold it's value and a potential investment. I doubt the galleries selling this stuff would pay a fraction of the selling price if buying back or exchanging for other art the sell. I also assume the galleries leave out the important things like technique and how Whatson came up with the finished product. Buyers probably think he does it all free hand starting with a blanc canvas or sheet of paper
As above. It's decorative, colorful, wall friendly, safe, Banksy lite. Sold by middle of the road galleries with good sales pitch to most probably young professional couples under the guise of original art that will hold it's value and a potential investment. I doubt the galleries selling this stuff would pay a fraction of the selling price if buying back or exchanging for other art the sell. I also assume the galleries leave out the important things like technique and how Whatson came up with the finished product. Buyers probably think he does it all free hand starting with a blanc canvas or sheet of paper
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Martin Whatson - general thoughts?, by Wearology on Nov 23, 2017 18:52:14 GMT 1, People on our forum keep on saying how his art lacks originality and that he is a one trick pony and all the guy does is keep on selling out every single thing he puts out there for sale. At some point maybe we should enjoy the art for the simple visual eye candy that it is and not over think the complexities of it all.
People on our forum keep on saying how his art lacks originality and that he is a one trick pony and all the guy does is keep on selling out every single thing he puts out there for sale. At some point maybe we should enjoy the art for the simple visual eye candy that it is and not over think the complexities of it all.
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Martin Whatson - general thoughts?, by kapusta on Nov 23, 2017 19:39:52 GMT 1, I find Whatson's work to be a refreshing visual break. Many of the artists I follow and enjoy create work that's thought provoking or complex. I love that... in a gallery/museum setting. Maybe even sprinkled across my home.
But when I'm lounging around my home, sometimes I just want eye-candy. Whatson's work is eye-candy, and I'm okay with that. I'm a sucker for tastefully colorful art. His art adds vibrancy to people's walls with a "street/urban" art flair.
I find Whatson's work to be a refreshing visual break. Many of the artists I follow and enjoy create work that's thought provoking or complex. I love that... in a gallery/museum setting. Maybe even sprinkled across my home.
But when I'm lounging around my home, sometimes I just want eye-candy. Whatson's work is eye-candy, and I'm okay with that. I'm a sucker for tastefully colorful art. His art adds vibrancy to people's walls with a "street/urban" art flair.
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Martin Whatson - general thoughts?, by Poster Bob on Nov 23, 2017 20:03:56 GMT 1, From what I can tell he's been flogging the same dead horse since 2012. That will soon to be six years of the same old s**t.
Artists go through progressional phases and some get stuck and some stick to what works. I own martin whatson's first print Qrelease the washer from edge art in 2009. Paid ยฃ25 plus shipping. Since then I've purchased directly from the old control84 site a bunch of his earlier prints. I also have eternal reflection, one small step, a small gold chinooks unsigned and behind the curtain. Never thought of him as a one trick pony. I look at it more as a step or a stop in an artists ever changing progress. As far as hush, never interested me. The damien hirst spots are cool. Never got into them either got some of the supreme decks that's about it. Stik is whatever's not much artistic or creative process I don't think. Just very relevant and impactful with a general innocence to them that makes them so desirables guessing.
From what I can tell he's been flogging the same dead horse since 2012. That will soon to be six years of the same old s**t. Artists go through progressional phases and some get stuck and some stick to what works. I own martin whatson's first print Qrelease the washer from edge art in 2009. Paid ยฃ25 plus shipping. Since then I've purchased directly from the old control84 site a bunch of his earlier prints. I also have eternal reflection, one small step, a small gold chinooks unsigned and behind the curtain. Never thought of him as a one trick pony. I look at it more as a step or a stop in an artists ever changing progress. As far as hush, never interested me. The damien hirst spots are cool. Never got into them either got some of the supreme decks that's about it. Stik is whatever's not much artistic or creative process I don't think. Just very relevant and impactful with a general innocence to them that makes them so desirables guessing. |
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Martin Whatson - general thoughts?, by Jeezuz Jones Snr on Nov 23, 2017 20:19:13 GMT 1, I can never get past that roger Federer piece he did, oof it was bad. Then he copied Logan hicks for a while. Like any artist good luck with he's making money from his works, just doesn't do anything for me..
I can never get past that roger Federer piece he did, oof it was bad. Then he copied Logan hicks for a while. Like any artist good luck with he's making money from his works, just doesn't do anything for me..
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