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"Weston-Super-Mare", by The Voice of Authority on Apr 21, 2006 11:07:54 GMT 1, 
Title - "Weston-Super-Mare"
Material - Acrylic on canvas
Size - 108cm x 84cm
Edition - *
Title - "Weston-Super-Mare"
Material - Acrylic on canvas
Size - 108cm x 84cm
Edition - *
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"Weston-Super-Mare", by Paul on Jun 13, 2006 18:44:58 GMT 1, this exists as an acrylic on canvas without the saw...
this exists as an acrylic on canvas without the saw...
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"Weston-Super-Mare", by numusic on Jun 13, 2006 19:00:35 GMT 1, this exists as an acrylic on canvas without the saw...
yes, it's horrible..for sale at Sothebys June 19.. see thread below ;-)
this exists as an acrylic on canvas without the saw... yes, it's horrible..for sale at Sothebys June 19.. see thread below ;-) |
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"Weston-Super-Mare", by ash828 on Jun 14, 2006 19:30:49 GMT 1, Were all the prints numbered?
Were all the prints numbered?
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"Weston-Super-Mare", by wezzley on Jun 14, 2006 22:33:55 GMT 1, yes all numbered. If you have been offered an unnumbered, it could well be a copy of the print slipped out from the printers. Technically the same print but not 'official' so snubbeed by the art market in terms of value.
yes all numbered. If you have been offered an unnumbered, it could well be a copy of the print slipped out from the printers. Technically the same print but not 'official' so snubbeed by the art market in terms of value.
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"Weston-Super-Mare", by ash828 on Jun 22, 2006 7:16:17 GMT 1, I have acquired an unnumbered print and was informed that not all of them were numbered as some were test prints. Can anyone ratify this for my own interest. Print is stunning so not selling on, but would like to know if it could be authentic.
I have acquired an unnumbered print and was informed that not all of them were numbered as some were test prints. Can anyone ratify this for my own interest. Print is stunning so not selling on, but would like to know if it could be authentic.
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"Weston-Super-Mare", by punkdaisy on Jun 22, 2006 9:39:12 GMT 1, I have acquired an unnumbered print and was informed that not all of them were numbered as some were test prints. Can anyone ratify this for my own interest. Print is stunning so not selling on, but would like to know if it could be authentic.
Yes there are an un-numbered prints. In house prints and prints given by Banksy to friends were / are generally not numbered. Just because your print is not numbered, it doesn't mean that it is not authentic. I mean it would be highly unlikely that someone going to the effort of producing a fake would not bother to number the print. The authenticity of your actually print would be determined by a number of other factors the least of which is the numbering. Like if you purchased the print at a car boot sale from a bloke who had a roll of un-numbered prints on glossy paper knocking them out at £2.00 a pop then it is likely to be a fake. If you were purchased the print from a respectable source, it is stamped where and if appropriate, it is on the correct paper, then it is unlikely to be a fake just because it is not numbered.
I have acquired an unnumbered print and was informed that not all of them were numbered as some were test prints. Can anyone ratify this for my own interest. Print is stunning so not selling on, but would like to know if it could be authentic. Yes there are an un-numbered prints. In house prints and prints given by Banksy to friends were / are generally not numbered. Just because your print is not numbered, it doesn't mean that it is not authentic. I mean it would be highly unlikely that someone going to the effort of producing a fake would not bother to number the print. The authenticity of your actually print would be determined by a number of other factors the least of which is the numbering. Like if you purchased the print at a car boot sale from a bloke who had a roll of un-numbered prints on glossy paper knocking them out at £2.00 a pop then it is likely to be a fake. If you were purchased the print from a respectable source, it is stamped where and if appropriate, it is on the correct paper, then it is unlikely to be a fake just because it is not numbered. |
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"Weston-Super-Mare", by wezzley on Jun 22, 2006 9:50:35 GMT 1, punkdaisy, whats the dtory behind your Queen Vic, Bomb Hugger and Laugh Now being signed but not numbered?
punkdaisy, whats the dtory behind your Queen Vic, Bomb Hugger and Laugh Now being signed but not numbered?
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"Weston-Super-Mare", by punkdaisy on Jun 22, 2006 10:28:09 GMT 1, punkdaisy, whats the dtory behind your Queen Vic, Bomb Hugger and Laugh Now being signed but not numbered?
Oh, I got mine from a car boot sale. £2.00 each but I got the three for a fiver.
punkdaisy, whats the dtory behind your Queen Vic, Bomb Hugger and Laugh Now being signed but not numbered? Oh, I got mine from a car boot sale. £2.00 each but I got the three for a fiver. |
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"Weston-Super-Mare", by numusic on Jun 22, 2006 10:45:50 GMT 1, I have acquired an unnumbered print and was informed that not all of them were numbered as some were test prints. Can anyone ratify this for my own interest. Print is stunning so not selling on, but would like to know if it could be authentic. Yes there are an un-numbered prints. In house prints and prints given by Banksy to friends were / are generally not numbered. Just because your print is not numbered, it doesn't mean that it is not authentic. I mean it would be highly unlikely that someone going to the effort of producing a fake would not bother to number the print. The authenticity of your actually print would be determined by a number of other factors the least of which is the numbering. Like if you purchased the print at a car boot sale from a bloke who had a roll of un-numbered prints on glossy paper knocking them out at £2.00 a pop then it is likely to be a fake. If you were purchased the print from a respectable source, it is stamped where and if appropriate, it is on the correct paper, then it is unlikely to be a fake just because it is not numbered.
NOOOO ! this is wrong, if you have an unnumbered print, what you actually have is an 'unofficial' print.. if these exist they're either fakes or they've come out the back door of the printers who's knocked some up to sell down the pub, the latter being the most likely. All official prints are numbered.. any left over at POW are destroyed.. the only unnumbered prints are marked A/P for artists proof.. these are usually given to the artist or retained by the agent, but again the amounts are small, registered and marked... NEVER by the printers.. this is not Andy Warhol we're dealing with, issues on whether it's from the actual original screens are irrelevant here.. if I have the screen for a Picasso and print a few off it doesn't make them original.. it's an 'unofficial' print.. fine for your wall but worthless to sell. All numbered prints and their buyers are registered..Doubtful it's a fake, but certainly not an official original.
I have acquired an unnumbered print and was informed that not all of them were numbered as some were test prints. Can anyone ratify this for my own interest. Print is stunning so not selling on, but would like to know if it could be authentic. Yes there are an un-numbered prints. In house prints and prints given by Banksy to friends were / are generally not numbered. Just because your print is not numbered, it doesn't mean that it is not authentic. I mean it would be highly unlikely that someone going to the effort of producing a fake would not bother to number the print. The authenticity of your actually print would be determined by a number of other factors the least of which is the numbering. Like if you purchased the print at a car boot sale from a bloke who had a roll of un-numbered prints on glossy paper knocking them out at £2.00 a pop then it is likely to be a fake. If you were purchased the print from a respectable source, it is stamped where and if appropriate, it is on the correct paper, then it is unlikely to be a fake just because it is not numbered. NOOOO ! this is wrong, if you have an unnumbered print, what you actually have is an 'unofficial' print.. if these exist they're either fakes or they've come out the back door of the printers who's knocked some up to sell down the pub, the latter being the most likely. All official prints are numbered.. any left over at POW are destroyed.. the only unnumbered prints are marked A/P for artists proof.. these are usually given to the artist or retained by the agent, but again the amounts are small, registered and marked... NEVER by the printers.. this is not Andy Warhol we're dealing with, issues on whether it's from the actual original screens are irrelevant here.. if I have the screen for a Picasso and print a few off it doesn't make them original.. it's an 'unofficial' print.. fine for your wall but worthless to sell. All numbered prints and their buyers are registered..Doubtful it's a fake, but certainly not an official original. |
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"Weston-Super-Mare", by Daniel Silk on Jun 22, 2006 11:05:23 GMT 1, Yes there are an un-numbered prints. In house prints and prints given by Banksy to friends were / are generally not numbered. Just because your print is not numbered, it doesn't mean that it is not authentic. I mean it would be highly unlikely that someone going to the effort of producing a fake would not bother to number the print. The authenticity of your actually print would be determined by a number of other factors the least of which is the numbering. Like if you purchased the print at a car boot sale from a bloke who had a roll of un-numbered prints on glossy paper knocking them out at £2.00 a pop then it is likely to be a fake. If you were purchased the print from a respectable source, it is stamped where and if appropriate, it is on the correct paper, then it is unlikely to be a fake just because it is not numbered. NOOOO ! this is wrong, if you have an unnumbered print, what you actually have is an 'unofficial' print.. if these exist they're either fakes or they've come out the back door of the printers who's knocked some up to sell down the pub, the latter being the most likely. All official prints are numbered.. any left over at POW are destroyed.. the only unnumbered prints are marked A/P for artists proof.. these are usually given to the artist or retained by the agent, but again the amounts are small, registered and marked... NEVER by the printers.. this is not Andy Warhol we're dealing with, issues on whether it's from the actual original screens are irrelevant here.. if I have the screen for a Picasso and print a few off it doesn't make them original.. it's an 'unofficial' print.. fine for your wall but worthless to sell. All numbered prints and their buyers are registered..Doubtful it's a fake, but certainly not an official original.
hmmm  naaaa!
I agree with PunkDaisy on this one  Its not fake, but yes its not in the official limited edition run.
I'm sure a few get given away to friends and are never signed and numbered. Did we not just have one like that on ebay? A gift to someone that helped out at POW? was it no number but signed?
Yes there are an un-numbered prints. In house prints and prints given by Banksy to friends were / are generally not numbered. Just because your print is not numbered, it doesn't mean that it is not authentic. I mean it would be highly unlikely that someone going to the effort of producing a fake would not bother to number the print. The authenticity of your actually print would be determined by a number of other factors the least of which is the numbering. Like if you purchased the print at a car boot sale from a bloke who had a roll of un-numbered prints on glossy paper knocking them out at £2.00 a pop then it is likely to be a fake. If you were purchased the print from a respectable source, it is stamped where and if appropriate, it is on the correct paper, then it is unlikely to be a fake just because it is not numbered. NOOOO ! this is wrong, if you have an unnumbered print, what you actually have is an 'unofficial' print.. if these exist they're either fakes or they've come out the back door of the printers who's knocked some up to sell down the pub, the latter being the most likely. All official prints are numbered.. any left over at POW are destroyed.. the only unnumbered prints are marked A/P for artists proof.. these are usually given to the artist or retained by the agent, but again the amounts are small, registered and marked... NEVER by the printers.. this is not Andy Warhol we're dealing with, issues on whether it's from the actual original screens are irrelevant here.. if I have the screen for a Picasso and print a few off it doesn't make them original.. it's an 'unofficial' print.. fine for your wall but worthless to sell. All numbered prints and their buyers are registered..Doubtful it's a fake, but certainly not an official original. hmmm naaaa! I agree with PunkDaisy on this one Its not fake, but yes its not in the official limited edition run. I'm sure a few get given away to friends and are never signed and numbered. Did we not just have one like that on ebay? A gift to someone that helped out at POW? was it no number but signed? |
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"Weston-Super-Mare", by guerillaart on Jun 22, 2006 12:23:01 GMT 1, I had a customer in my framing shop last week with an un-signed & un-numbered print of 'Have A Nice Day' & 'Love Is In The Air'. I asked him where he got them and he said that they were given to him a couple of years ago by the grafitti artist 'CHU'. Apparently CHU used to make the printing plates when the printing was done in the Birmingham area. So there are prints out there that aren't 'fakes', they simply haven't been sold through the normal outlets!
I had a customer in my framing shop last week with an un-signed & un-numbered print of 'Have A Nice Day' & 'Love Is In The Air'. I asked him where he got them and he said that they were given to him a couple of years ago by the grafitti artist 'CHU'. Apparently CHU used to make the printing plates when the printing was done in the Birmingham area. So there are prints out there that aren't 'fakes', they simply haven't been sold through the normal outlets!
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"Weston-Super-Mare", by numusic on Jun 22, 2006 12:31:49 GMT 1, NOOOO ! this is wrong, if you have an unnumbered print, what you actually have is an 'unofficial' print.. if these exist they're either fakes or they've come out the back door of the printers who's knocked some up to sell down the pub, the latter being the most likely. All official prints are numbered.. any left over at POW are destroyed.. the only unnumbered prints are marked A/P for artists proof.. these are usually given to the artist or retained by the agent, but again the amounts are small, registered and marked... NEVER by the printers.. this is not Andy Warhol we're dealing with, issues on whether it's from the actual original screens are irrelevant here.. if I have the screen for a Picasso and print a few off it doesn't make them original.. it's an 'unofficial' print.. fine for your wall but worthless to sell. All numbered prints and their buyers are registered..Doubtful it's a fake, but certainly not an official original. hmmm naaaa! I agree with PunkDaisy on this one Its not fake, but yes its not in the official limited edition run. I'm sure a few get given away to friends and are never signed and numbered. Did we not just have one like that on ebay? A gift to someone that helped out at POW? was it no number but signed?
yeah, that was one with no number but signed.. Steph at POW said she would stamp it.. it was given to her as a gift for working at Santa's Ghetto.. so has full provenence...and I agree 'withus', it's perhaps not a fake.. but nor is it an official Banksy print.. a grey zone.. but.. like I said.. great for your wall.. but useless as either an investment or for trade etc.
NOOOO ! this is wrong, if you have an unnumbered print, what you actually have is an 'unofficial' print.. if these exist they're either fakes or they've come out the back door of the printers who's knocked some up to sell down the pub, the latter being the most likely. All official prints are numbered.. any left over at POW are destroyed.. the only unnumbered prints are marked A/P for artists proof.. these are usually given to the artist or retained by the agent, but again the amounts are small, registered and marked... NEVER by the printers.. this is not Andy Warhol we're dealing with, issues on whether it's from the actual original screens are irrelevant here.. if I have the screen for a Picasso and print a few off it doesn't make them original.. it's an 'unofficial' print.. fine for your wall but worthless to sell. All numbered prints and their buyers are registered..Doubtful it's a fake, but certainly not an official original. hmmm naaaa! I agree with PunkDaisy on this one Its not fake, but yes its not in the official limited edition run. I'm sure a few get given away to friends and are never signed and numbered. Did we not just have one like that on ebay? A gift to someone that helped out at POW? was it no number but signed? yeah, that was one with no number but signed.. Steph at POW said she would stamp it.. it was given to her as a gift for working at Santa's Ghetto.. so has full provenence...and I agree 'withus', it's perhaps not a fake.. but nor is it an official Banksy print.. a grey zone.. but.. like I said.. great for your wall.. but useless as either an investment or for trade etc. |
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"Weston-Super-Mare", by RetroCanvas on Jun 22, 2006 12:33:48 GMT 1, I had a customer in my framing shop last week with an un-signed & un-numbered print of 'Have A Nice Day' & 'Love Is In The Air'. I asked him where he got them and he said that they were given to him a couple of years ago by the grafitti artist 'CHU'. Apparently CHU used to make the printing plates when the printing was done in the Birmingham area. So there are prints out there that aren't 'fakes', they simply haven't been sold through the normal outlets!
Very interesting.
I had a customer in my framing shop last week with an un-signed & un-numbered print of 'Have A Nice Day' & 'Love Is In The Air'. I asked him where he got them and he said that they were given to him a couple of years ago by the grafitti artist 'CHU'. Apparently CHU used to make the printing plates when the printing was done in the Birmingham area. So there are prints out there that aren't 'fakes', they simply haven't been sold through the normal outlets! Very interesting. |
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"Weston-Super-Mare", by foundation on Jun 22, 2006 12:41:31 GMT 1, Numisic is right on this one, Any print given away as gifts to family and friends are exactly what they say on the tin, GIFTS. these are generally stamped and rather than numbered a heart is drawn in the centre. The offer was made to the young lady selling the print to have it stamped, this later fell through as it was seen as unfair to people that bought the prints as a limited run.
Any prints that are not marked up (numbered, signed, ap etc) that came out the back of a printers are technically stolen property, as only the original print run of a certain number was authorised with several more for good measure and quality control( APs?). As numusic said, lovely to hang on yer wall, but worthless to buy/sell. The fact that its not a comissioned banksy print, does indeed make it a fake. Banksy didn't commission it / authorise its production, it was printed by kev at 2 am, an original kev, very similar to a banksy, but cannot be considdered the real deal.
Numisic is right on this one, Any print given away as gifts to family and friends are exactly what they say on the tin, GIFTS. these are generally stamped and rather than numbered a heart is drawn in the centre. The offer was made to the young lady selling the print to have it stamped, this later fell through as it was seen as unfair to people that bought the prints as a limited run.
Any prints that are not marked up (numbered, signed, ap etc) that came out the back of a printers are technically stolen property, as only the original print run of a certain number was authorised with several more for good measure and quality control( APs?). As numusic said, lovely to hang on yer wall, but worthless to buy/sell. The fact that its not a comissioned banksy print, does indeed make it a fake. Banksy didn't commission it / authorise its production, it was printed by kev at 2 am, an original kev, very similar to a banksy, but cannot be considdered the real deal.
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"Weston-Super-Mare", by punkdaisy on Jun 22, 2006 13:13:19 GMT 1, Strange ideas. So a pencil number gives a print value and lack of it renders a print worthless? If two prints are given the same number by mistake or is in correctly numbered (i have handled a Christ inccorrectly numbered 30/32). Does this make them unofficial and worthless? A pencil number merely places a print inside a specific limited edition. An un-numbered print doesn't become unofficial just because it isn't numbered, it exists in addition too and outside of the limited print run. They are legitimate pieces that exist for various reason's and in some cases the association value of these particular pieces make them more valuable than the numbered edition. A numbered print will have a set market value, an un-numbered prints value will depend on how it came to be released. Generally it's value will be slightly less, say however it is a print given directly by Banksy to a friend in this instance I would value that particular print more than one from the numbered edition. At the end of the day the point should be that you are buying a Banksy artwork and not a pencil number.
Strange ideas. So a pencil number gives a print value and lack of it renders a print worthless? If two prints are given the same number by mistake or is in correctly numbered (i have handled a Christ inccorrectly numbered 30/32). Does this make them unofficial and worthless? A pencil number merely places a print inside a specific limited edition. An un-numbered print doesn't become unofficial just because it isn't numbered, it exists in addition too and outside of the limited print run. They are legitimate pieces that exist for various reason's and in some cases the association value of these particular pieces make them more valuable than the numbered edition. A numbered print will have a set market value, an un-numbered prints value will depend on how it came to be released. Generally it's value will be slightly less, say however it is a print given directly by Banksy to a friend in this instance I would value that particular print more than one from the numbered edition. At the end of the day the point should be that you are buying a Banksy artwork and not a pencil number.
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"Weston-Super-Mare", by mido on Jun 22, 2006 13:13:24 GMT 1, yep, things like that must happen. CHU did the 'Polite tape' with Banksy, and the whole graffiti / street art thing is a little community so surely they give each other stuff (this case might not be quite like that, but you know what I mean).
I had a customer in my framing shop last week with an un-signed & un-numbered print of 'Have A Nice Day' & 'Love Is In The Air'. I asked him where he got them and he said that they were given to him a couple of years ago by the grafitti artist 'CHU'. Apparently CHU used to make the printing plates when the printing was done in the Birmingham area. So there are prints out there that aren't 'fakes', they simply haven't been sold through the normal outlets!
yep, things like that must happen. CHU did the 'Polite tape' with Banksy, and the whole graffiti / street art thing is a little community so surely they give each other stuff (this case might not be quite like that, but you know what I mean). I had a customer in my framing shop last week with an un-signed & un-numbered print of 'Have A Nice Day' & 'Love Is In The Air'. I asked him where he got them and he said that they were given to him a couple of years ago by the grafitti artist 'CHU'. Apparently CHU used to make the printing plates when the printing was done in the Birmingham area. So there are prints out there that aren't 'fakes', they simply haven't been sold through the normal outlets! |
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"Weston-Super-Mare", by monochrome on Jun 22, 2006 13:37:35 GMT 1, POW will supply details of everything they sell. ask any seller for a COA - if it doesn't have one then its worth nothing.
POW will supply details of everything they sell. ask any seller for a COA - if it doesn't have one then its worth nothing.
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"Weston-Super-Mare", by wezzley on Jun 22, 2006 13:59:20 GMT 1, it might be exactly the same print, but if it aint official, its virtually worthless. Stick one on ebay and you will see....
it might be exactly the same print, but if it aint official, its virtually worthless. Stick one on ebay and you will see....
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"Weston-Super-Mare", by punkdaisy on Jun 22, 2006 14:06:29 GMT 1, POW will supply details of everything they sell. ask any seller for a COA - if it doesn't have one then its worth nothing.
Lol, so now even the c.o.a is worth more than the print.
POW will supply details of everything they sell. ask any seller for a COA - if it doesn't have one then its worth nothing. Lol, so now even the c.o.a is worth more than the print. |
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"Weston-Super-Mare", by punkdaisy on Jun 22, 2006 14:24:15 GMT 1, it might be exactly the same print, but if it aint official, its virtually worthless. Stick one on ebay and you will see....
I had Kate Moss sign my Banksy 'Kate Moss' original colourway, as the Kate Moss signature isn't 'official' did I ruin it?
it might be exactly the same print, but if it aint official, its virtually worthless. Stick one on ebay and you will see.... I had Kate Moss sign my Banksy 'Kate Moss' original colourway, as the Kate Moss signature isn't 'official' did I ruin it? |
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"Weston-Super-Mare", by policeaware on Jun 22, 2006 14:34:27 GMT 1, POW will supply details of everything they sell. ask any seller for a COA - if it doesn't have one then its worth nothing.
POW don't issue COAs..... they issue receipts
Having spoken to Steph about this, if you provide them with the name of the seller POW can confirm that they bought that print...assuming they were the original purchaser.
POW will supply details of everything they sell. ask any seller for a COA - if it doesn't have one then its worth nothing. POW don't issue COAs..... they issue receipts Having spoken to Steph about this, if you provide them with the name of the seller POW can confirm that they bought that print...assuming they were the original purchaser. |
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"Weston-Super-Mare", by numusic on Jun 22, 2006 14:38:50 GMT 1, POW will supply details of everything they sell. ask any seller for a COA - if it doesn't have one then its worth nothing. Lol, so now even the c.o.a is worth more than the print.
Fraid so, Picasso prints from house sales come up on ebay everyday for 2 to 500 dollars.. no C.O.A = worthless...nice to show your mates, but try selling one on for a normal list price and you'd get laughed out the auction house.
POW will supply details of everything they sell. ask any seller for a COA - if it doesn't have one then its worth nothing. Lol, so now even the c.o.a is worth more than the print. Fraid so, Picasso prints from house sales come up on ebay everyday for 2 to 500 dollars.. no C.O.A = worthless...nice to show your mates, but try selling one on for a normal list price and you'd get laughed out the auction house. |
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"Weston-Super-Mare", by numusic on Jun 22, 2006 14:40:23 GMT 1, it might be exactly the same print, but if it aint official, its virtually worthless. Stick one on ebay and you will see.... I had Kate Moss sign my Banksy 'Kate Moss' original colourway, as the Kate Moss signature isn't 'official' did I ruin it?
depends if anyone remembers who she is in ten years time.. Twiggy signed my picasso and now it's worth shit ;D
it might be exactly the same print, but if it aint official, its virtually worthless. Stick one on ebay and you will see.... I had Kate Moss sign my Banksy 'Kate Moss' original colourway, as the Kate Moss signature isn't 'official' did I ruin it? depends if anyone remembers who she is in ten years time.. Twiggy signed my picasso and now it's worth shit ;D |
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"Weston-Super-Mare", by punkdaisy on Jun 22, 2006 14:52:31 GMT 1, [
Fraid so, Picasso prints from house sales come up on ebay everyday for 2 to 500 dollars.. no C.O.A = worthless...nice to show your mates, but try selling one on for a normal list price and you'd get laughed out the auction house.
Ridiculous. You take an authentic Picasso to Sotheby's or Christies they are not going to laugh at you because you have no c.o.a.
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Fraid so, Picasso prints from house sales come up on ebay everyday for 2 to 500 dollars.. no C.O.A = worthless...nice to show your mates, but try selling one on for a normal list price and you'd get laughed out the auction house.
Ridiculous. You take an authentic Picasso to Sotheby's or Christies they are not going to laugh at you because you have no c.o.a.
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"Weston-Super-Mare", by foundation on Jun 22, 2006 15:01:04 GMT 1, Punk, the christ was number 60, not 30, one copy has original POW receipt and credence, the other has a slight crease and was returned, but made its way back to the public domain through a less well documented channel. The whole idea of providence and COAs are going to become a much greater issue in the next while, as banksy become more popular, his work is going to be coppied and forged accordingly. Any prints without a provable history are going to be interesting but very hard to sell on in a few years time. These backdoor prints have not been sanctioned by the artist and cannot be considered genuine banksy prints. Interesting yes, from the same print run maybe, look nice? undeniably worth anything? bugger all.
Punk, the christ was number 60, not 30, one copy has original POW receipt and credence, the other has a slight crease and was returned, but made its way back to the public domain through a less well documented channel. The whole idea of providence and COAs are going to become a much greater issue in the next while, as banksy become more popular, his work is going to be coppied and forged accordingly. Any prints without a provable history are going to be interesting but very hard to sell on in a few years time. These backdoor prints have not been sanctioned by the artist and cannot be considered genuine banksy prints. Interesting yes, from the same print run maybe, look nice? undeniably worth anything? bugger all.
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"Weston-Super-Mare", by punkdaisy on Jun 22, 2006 15:12:53 GMT 1, Punk, the christ was number 60, not 30, one copy has original POW receipt and credence, the other has a slight crease and was returned, but made its way back to the public domain through a less well documented channel. The whole idea of providence and COAs are going to become a much greater issue in the next while, as banksy become more popular, his work is going to be coppied and forged accordingly. Any prints without a provable history are going to be interesting but very hard to sell on in a few years time. These backdoor prints have not been sanctioned by the artist and cannot be considered genuine banksy prints. Interesting yes, from the same print run maybe, look nice? undeniably worth anything? bugger all.
My mistake, the christ I handled was numbered 28/32 (not 30/32 or indeed 60/32) and was sent directly from POW as a result of a web order. Not sure how you can say that an unnumbered print signed by the artist is not sanctioned by him and cannot be considered genuine. Why on earth would he sign it then.
Punk, the christ was number 60, not 30, one copy has original POW receipt and credence, the other has a slight crease and was returned, but made its way back to the public domain through a less well documented channel. The whole idea of providence and COAs are going to become a much greater issue in the next while, as banksy become more popular, his work is going to be coppied and forged accordingly. Any prints without a provable history are going to be interesting but very hard to sell on in a few years time. These backdoor prints have not been sanctioned by the artist and cannot be considered genuine banksy prints. Interesting yes, from the same print run maybe, look nice? undeniably worth anything? bugger all. My mistake, the christ I handled was numbered 28/32 (not 30/32 or indeed 60/32) and was sent directly from POW as a result of a web order. Not sure how you can say that an unnumbered print signed by the artist is not sanctioned by him and cannot be considered genuine. Why on earth would he sign it then. |
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"Weston-Super-Mare", by foundation on Jun 22, 2006 15:37:53 GMT 1, Im not talking about unsigned prints, I clearly state its the unnumbered/unsigned prints that slipped out of the printers, reading things carefully helps. The christ run was 82 by the way.
Im not talking about unsigned prints, I clearly state its the unnumbered/unsigned prints that slipped out of the printers, reading things carefully helps. The christ run was 82 by the way.
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"Weston-Super-Mare", by punkdaisy on Jun 22, 2006 15:45:10 GMT 1, Im not talking about unsigned prints, I clearly state its the unnumbered/unsigned prints that slipped out of the printers, reading things carefully helps. The christ run was 82 by the way.
yes as I was saying I have handled a christ that was incorrectly numbered 28/32 rather than 28/82. (and no it wasn't an 8 that looked like a 3). Sorry I missed your referring to un-numbered un-signed prints.
Im not talking about unsigned prints, I clearly state its the unnumbered/unsigned prints that slipped out of the printers, reading things carefully helps. The christ run was 82 by the way. yes as I was saying I have handled a christ that was incorrectly numbered 28/32 rather than 28/82. (and no it wasn't an 8 that looked like a 3). Sorry I missed your referring to un-numbered un-signed prints. |
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"Weston-Super-Mare", by foundation on Jun 22, 2006 15:55:08 GMT 1, Interesting though, as thats 2 different numbering screwups in the CwS run, there are two 60/82 on the go and you say there is a 28/32, this print was launched about christmas wasn't ? hmmmm, hic!
Interesting though, as thats 2 different numbering screwups in the CwS run, there are two 60/82 on the go and you say there is a 28/32, this print was launched about christmas wasn't ? hmmmm, hic!
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naaaa!
Its not fake, but yes its not in the official limited edition run.
