fm1975
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Location: Good dealings with: turntored, pndk, Catman 74, damenaz, Average Joe, Patrick 01... References available from: Sotheby’s, Christie’s, Phillips, Bonhmas, New Art Editions, Jeallous Gallery, Artnet Auctions, Piasa, Subastas Segre,
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Flashback
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Wanted: Oli Epp, Pejac, Pose, Faile, by Flashback on Jul 4, 2018 18:51:31 GMT 1, Are this results all included? Thanks! 'The following prices in British Pounds include 25% Buyer's Premium.'
Are this results all included? Thanks! 'The following prices in British Pounds include 25% Buyer's Premium.'
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Wanted: Oli Epp, Pejac, Pose, Faile, by Deleted on Jul 4, 2018 18:54:40 GMT 1, But we have to see if prices will sustain or its just knee jerk reaction from fomo... Don't get me wrong, I believe in him long term, but I don't know if I believe short term Bumps. The only thing you need to believe in is the legend, everything rests on the New York show and prices will continue to rise until then. After that it’s a massive rise or stabilising.. I’m 97.68% sure the prices sore after NYC.. and I RARELY make mistakes Considering your “legend”ary collection of Pejac prints I can understand your position. 😉. To the moon we go.
But we have to see if prices will sustain or its just knee jerk reaction from fomo... Don't get me wrong, I believe in him long term, but I don't know if I believe short term Bumps. The only thing you need to believe in is the legend, everything rests on the New York show and prices will continue to rise until then. After that it’s a massive rise or stabilising.. I’m 97.68% sure the prices sore after NYC.. and I RARELY make mistakes Considering your “legend”ary collection of Pejac prints I can understand your position. 😉. To the moon we go.
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Wanted: Oli Epp, Pejac, Pose, Faile, by Deleted on Jul 4, 2018 19:01:28 GMT 1, The only thing you need to believe in is the legend, everything rests on the New York show and prices will continue to rise until then. After that it’s a massive rise or stabilising.. I’m 97.68% sure the prices sore after NYC.. and I RARELY make mistakes Considering your “legend”ary collection of Pejac prints I can understand your position. 😉. To the moon we go.
My collection has no impact on my analysis. People sell and people buy and I just watch the patterns.
The only thing you need to believe in is the legend, everything rests on the New York show and prices will continue to rise until then. After that it’s a massive rise or stabilising.. I’m 97.68% sure the prices sore after NYC.. and I RARELY make mistakes Considering your “legend”ary collection of Pejac prints I can understand your position. 😉. To the moon we go. My collection has no impact on my analysis. People sell and people buy and I just watch the patterns.
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Wanted: Oli Epp, Pejac, Pose, Faile, by Deleted on Jul 4, 2018 19:08:40 GMT 1, The only thing you need to believe in is the legend, everything rests on the New York show and prices will continue to rise until then. After that it’s a massive rise or stabilising.. I’m 97.68% sure the prices sore after NYC.. and I RARELY make mistakes Considering your “legend”ary collection of Pejac prints I can understand your position. 😉. To the moon we go.
It is in a bubble, and the bubble will burst
The tough bit is working at when, and will people who buy high, sell low, or keep until it bottoms out
Unless of course people are buying it for the image rather than the profit potential
I wonder if they are?
Do they see the image on the wall or the value/profit of what they are looking at?
what do we see when we look?
i am in a filisofikal mood
ommmmm
The only thing you need to believe in is the legend, everything rests on the New York show and prices will continue to rise until then. After that it’s a massive rise or stabilising.. I’m 97.68% sure the prices sore after NYC.. and I RARELY make mistakes Considering your “legend”ary collection of Pejac prints I can understand your position. 😉. To the moon we go. It is in a bubble, and the bubble will burst The tough bit is working at when, and will people who buy high, sell low, or keep until it bottoms out Unless of course people are buying it for the image rather than the profit potential I wonder if they are? Do they see the image on the wall or the value/profit of what they are looking at? what do we see when we look? i am in a filisofikal mood ommmmm
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Harveyn
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Wanted: Oli Epp, Pejac, Pose, Faile, by Harveyn on Jul 4, 2018 19:22:34 GMT 1, I think some of Pejac work is brilliant and some slightly underwhelming. What I would say is 32k for an original on paper at this point in his career seems extremely ambitious. I fear if those type of prices and higher are achieved over a similar period in the near future that people buying as a financial investment are taking a huge gamble. Only my opinion of course.
I think some of Pejac work is brilliant and some slightly underwhelming. What I would say is 32k for an original on paper at this point in his career seems extremely ambitious. I fear if those type of prices and higher are achieved over a similar period in the near future that people buying as a financial investment are taking a huge gamble. Only my opinion of course.
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kjg
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Wanted: Oli Epp, Pejac, Pose, Faile, by kjg on Jul 4, 2018 19:28:20 GMT 1, I think some of Pejac work is brilliant and some slightly underwhelming. What I would say is 32k for an original on paper at this point in his career seems extremely ambitious. I fear if those type of prices and higher are achieved over a similar period in the near future that people buying as a financial investment are taking a huge gamble. Only my opinion of course.
Do you think the same about his prints? I think that 6K (or more) for a Meadow is a bit high, albeit it being a beautiful print.
I think some of Pejac work is brilliant and some slightly underwhelming. What I would say is 32k for an original on paper at this point in his career seems extremely ambitious. I fear if those type of prices and higher are achieved over a similar period in the near future that people buying as a financial investment are taking a huge gamble. Only my opinion of course. Do you think the same about his prints? I think that 6K (or more) for a Meadow is a bit high, albeit it being a beautiful print.
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Wanted: Oli Epp, Pejac, Pose, Faile, by Deleted on Jul 4, 2018 19:28:34 GMT 1, Considering your “legend”ary collection of Pejac prints I can understand your position. 😉. To the moon we go. It is in a bubble, and the bubble will burst The tough bit is working at when, and will people who buy high, sell low, or keep until it bottoms out Unless of course people are buying it for the image rather than the profit potential I wonder if they are? Do they see the image on the wall or the value/profit of what they are looking at? what do we see when we look? i am in a filisofikal mood ommmmm
Insert every artist ever
Considering your “legend”ary collection of Pejac prints I can understand your position. 😉. To the moon we go. It is in a bubble, and the bubble will burst The tough bit is working at when, and will people who buy high, sell low, or keep until it bottoms out Unless of course people are buying it for the image rather than the profit potential I wonder if they are? Do they see the image on the wall or the value/profit of what they are looking at? what do we see when we look? i am in a filisofikal mood ommmmm Insert every artist ever
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Harveyn
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Wanted: Oli Epp, Pejac, Pose, Faile, by Harveyn on Jul 4, 2018 19:42:56 GMT 1, I think some of Pejac work is brilliant and some slightly underwhelming. What I would say is 32k for an original on paper at this point in his career seems extremely ambitious. I fear if those type of prices and higher are achieved over a similar period in the near future that people buying as a financial investment are taking a huge gamble. Only my opinion of course. Do you think the same about his prints? I think that 6K (or more) for a Meadow is a bit high, albeit it being a beautiful print.
Don’t really know much about his print market. It seems to me that many artists with limited CVs these days sell prints in the £2/4K range when in demand so I guess that seems to be less abnormal. My comment was based on the prices of originals at 32k euros.
I think some of Pejac work is brilliant and some slightly underwhelming. What I would say is 32k for an original on paper at this point in his career seems extremely ambitious. I fear if those type of prices and higher are achieved over a similar period in the near future that people buying as a financial investment are taking a huge gamble. Only my opinion of course. Do you think the same about his prints? I think that 6K (or more) for a Meadow is a bit high, albeit it being a beautiful print. Don’t really know much about his print market. It seems to me that many artists with limited CVs these days sell prints in the £2/4K range when in demand so I guess that seems to be less abnormal. My comment was based on the prices of originals at 32k euros.
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duggyfresh
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Wanted: Oli Epp, Pejac, Pose, Faile, by duggyfresh on Jul 4, 2018 20:10:11 GMT 1, There is no doubt that Pejac is a very talented artist with a postive message in his art. He has done street, paper and sculpture works. So as long as he keeps mixing it up the medium and evolves to keep us interested, I see this momentum remaining in his popularity.
There is no doubt that Pejac is a very talented artist with a postive message in his art. He has done street, paper and sculpture works. So as long as he keeps mixing it up the medium and evolves to keep us interested, I see this momentum remaining in his popularity.
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Wanted: Oli Epp, Pejac, Pose, Faile, by Deleted on Jul 4, 2018 20:19:20 GMT 1, There is no doubt that Pejac is a very talented artist with a postive message in his art. He has done street, paper and sculpture works. So as long as he keeps mixing it up the medium and evolves to keep us interested, I see this momentum remaining in his popularity. Yeah, i think your right
i was being an arse earlier, strange mood thing going on
I really like his stuff,
Its the hype thing and money money money with artists on here that gets to me after a while
But i do genuinely like what this guy does, would like the bottle sculpture a lot, hope he continues to do what he is doing
There is no doubt that Pejac is a very talented artist with a postive message in his art. He has done street, paper and sculpture works. So as long as he keeps mixing it up the medium and evolves to keep us interested, I see this momentum remaining in his popularity. Yeah, i think your right i was being an arse earlier, strange mood thing going on I really like his stuff, Its the hype thing and money money money with artists on here that gets to me after a while But i do genuinely like what this guy does, would like the bottle sculpture a lot, hope he continues to do what he is doing
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JL Broooks
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Wanted: Oli Epp, Pejac, Pose, Faile, by JL Broooks on Jul 4, 2018 20:48:33 GMT 1, Interesting discussion regarding Pejac’s originals. The large ‘paper canvas’ pieces were indeed expensive, that said, they are huge. 190 x 120 cm, so if you focus on price per square cm / m, they are well priced compared with the smaller originals. Also - to my understanding they are made by pencil and charcoal, meaning it probably took a hell of a time and effort to make them.
Full disclosure; I wasn’t among the lucky ones to buy one.
Interesting discussion regarding Pejac’s originals. The large ‘paper canvas’ pieces were indeed expensive, that said, they are huge. 190 x 120 cm, so if you focus on price per square cm / m, they are well priced compared with the smaller originals. Also - to my understanding they are made by pencil and charcoal, meaning it probably took a hell of a time and effort to make them.
Full disclosure; I wasn’t among the lucky ones to buy one.
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Dive Jedi
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Wanted: Oli Epp, Pejac, Pose, Faile, by Dive Jedi on Jul 4, 2018 23:37:22 GMT 1, Love how "prices have increased after the show" yet there is no evidence of sales since his show, so not sure the basis for that Oh god another one who’s only understanding of the art market is this forum. FYI. 2 x sepukkus sold for £5000 recently. Selling for £4000 pre show. Linea 2 x AP sold £2000 . £1600 pre show. Buyer offered $6-8000 for meadow TODAY (never sold at that price EVER) meadow for sale on here today for over £5500 , buyer just referenced immediately wanted to buy. You get a name like ‘the legend’ Cause you know s**t, study s**t, own s**t and do s**t. I’m happy for you to DM with any questions on life. I’m all seeing, all knowing.. Well, you didn't GET the name the Legend. You made that up yourself, right? So you basicly got it, because you made up s**t.
Love how "prices have increased after the show" yet there is no evidence of sales since his show, so not sure the basis for that Oh god another one who’s only understanding of the art market is this forum. FYI. 2 x sepukkus sold for £5000 recently. Selling for £4000 pre show. Linea 2 x AP sold £2000 . £1600 pre show. Buyer offered $6-8000 for meadow TODAY (never sold at that price EVER) meadow for sale on here today for over £5500 , buyer just referenced immediately wanted to buy. You get a name like ‘the legend’ Cause you know s**t, study s**t, own s**t and do s**t. I’m happy for you to DM with any questions on life. I’m all seeing, all knowing.. Well, you didn't GET the name the Legend. You made that up yourself, right? So you basicly got it, because you made up s**t.
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Wanted: Oli Epp, Pejac, Pose, Faile, by Deleted on Jul 4, 2018 23:45:13 GMT 1, Oh god another one who’s only understanding of the art market is this forum. FYI. 2 x sepukkus sold for £5000 recently. Selling for £4000 pre show. Linea 2 x AP sold £2000 . £1600 pre show. Buyer offered $6-8000 for meadow TODAY (never sold at that price EVER) meadow for sale on here today for over £5500 , buyer just referenced immediately wanted to buy. You get a name like ‘the legend’ Cause you know s**t, study s**t, own s**t and do s**t. I’m happy for you to DM with any questions on life. I’m all seeing, all knowing.. Well, you didn't GET the name the Legend. You made that up yourself, right? So you basicly got it, because you made up s**t.
God no!! I was awarded it at a huge star studded ceremony!! Will Smith handed me a plaque and it said, simply ‘ you are legend’ I knew then what and who I was.. incredibly I ended up on this shitty forum so the story ends rather badly 🤪
Oh god another one who’s only understanding of the art market is this forum. FYI. 2 x sepukkus sold for £5000 recently. Selling for £4000 pre show. Linea 2 x AP sold £2000 . £1600 pre show. Buyer offered $6-8000 for meadow TODAY (never sold at that price EVER) meadow for sale on here today for over £5500 , buyer just referenced immediately wanted to buy. You get a name like ‘the legend’ Cause you know s**t, study s**t, own s**t and do s**t. I’m happy for you to DM with any questions on life. I’m all seeing, all knowing.. Well, you didn't GET the name the Legend. You made that up yourself, right? So you basicly got it, because you made up s**t. God no!! I was awarded it at a huge star studded ceremony!! Will Smith handed me a plaque and it said, simply ‘ you are legend’ I knew then what and who I was.. incredibly I ended up on this shitty forum so the story ends rather badly 🤪
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wottagunn
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Wanted: Oli Epp, Pejac, Pose, Faile, by wottagunn on Jul 4, 2018 23:48:37 GMT 1, There is no doubt that Pejac is a very talented artist with a postive message in his art. He has done street, paper and sculpture works. So as long as he keeps mixing it up the medium and evolves to keep us interested, I see this momentum remaining in his popularity. Yeah, i think your right i was being an arse earlier, strange mood thing going on I really like his stuff, Its the hype thing and money money money with artists on here that gets to me after a while But i do genuinely like what this guy does, would like the bottle sculpture a lot, hope he continues to do what he is doing It gets to me too mate. It's funny, when I bought Meadow (late 2015) no one gave a fuck about Pejac. I bought it because I love the image. I paid 500 quid for it on this forum and at the time it was the highest anyone had paid for the print, but I didn't care. Shortly after I picked up Wound from source and watched the secondary market closely intending to buy one for a friend. Heaps of them changed hands. No one wanted it and there were a lot of negative comments about the image chosen for his next print following Meadow.
then at some point, for whatever reason, some people started paying over the odds for his printed editions. Sorta double the price any had gone for prior. From then on, prices have only gone up, and all we ever hear about is the money side of it. It's a shame it has become so competitive.
I'm not sure how I feel about a bubble bursting. I want to continue seeing Pejac's work grow. And more of it too, so id never want to see that affected. But if prices were to drop to nothing, it wouldn't bother me as I have no intention to ever sell.
anyway, sorry to derail OP. Best of luck in your search.
There is no doubt that Pejac is a very talented artist with a postive message in his art. He has done street, paper and sculpture works. So as long as he keeps mixing it up the medium and evolves to keep us interested, I see this momentum remaining in his popularity. Yeah, i think your right i was being an arse earlier, strange mood thing going on I really like his stuff, Its the hype thing and money money money with artists on here that gets to me after a while But i do genuinely like what this guy does, would like the bottle sculpture a lot, hope he continues to do what he is doing It gets to me too mate. It's funny, when I bought Meadow (late 2015) no one gave a fuck about Pejac. I bought it because I love the image. I paid 500 quid for it on this forum and at the time it was the highest anyone had paid for the print, but I didn't care. Shortly after I picked up Wound from source and watched the secondary market closely intending to buy one for a friend. Heaps of them changed hands. No one wanted it and there were a lot of negative comments about the image chosen for his next print following Meadow. then at some point, for whatever reason, some people started paying over the odds for his printed editions. Sorta double the price any had gone for prior. From then on, prices have only gone up, and all we ever hear about is the money side of it. It's a shame it has become so competitive. I'm not sure how I feel about a bubble bursting. I want to continue seeing Pejac's work grow. And more of it too, so id never want to see that affected. But if prices were to drop to nothing, it wouldn't bother me as I have no intention to ever sell. anyway, sorry to derail OP. Best of luck in your search.
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damenaz
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Wanted: Oli Epp, Pejac, Pose, Faile, by damenaz on Jul 5, 2018 0:20:54 GMT 1,
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Personally I think that he is talented, plus he had the right management. Therefore, many will buy his work all very simple, principles of Economics When demand exceeds the proposal prices are rising. And when they say that this is a bubble? The last print was sold at a price of € 1280, I want to see who will sell cheaper than bought, so the next print will be even more expensive? So the only way up and up
Zorika PeticPersonally I think that he is talented, plus he had the right management. Therefore, many will buy his work all very simple, principles of Economics When demand exceeds the proposal prices are rising. And when they say that this is a bubble? The last print was sold at a price of € 1280, I want to see who will sell cheaper than bought, so the next print will be even more expensive? So the only way up and up
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avec art
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Wanted: Oli Epp, Pejac, Pose, Faile, by avec art on Jul 5, 2018 1:19:37 GMT 1, Those figures are of returns, but not net. Production costs for the old fashioned process are always very high, even though they often go largely unseen.
Those figures are of returns, but not net. Production costs for the old fashioned process are always very high, even though they often go largely unseen.
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galaxy01
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Wanted: Oli Epp, Pejac, Pose, Faile, by galaxy01 on Sept 24, 2018 22:15:36 GMT 1, Still after the EPP. Cash or pejac trades for it.
Still after the EPP. Cash or pejac trades for it.
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gd79
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Wanted: Oli Epp, Pejac, Pose, Faile, by gd79 on Sept 24, 2018 22:26:35 GMT 1, Those figures are of returns, but not net. Production costs for the old fashioned process are always very high, even though they often go largely unseen.
On the flip side, there are plenty of HF/special editions not included.
Not that it matters how much the artist takes. His work, his merit, his reward. At 400k income over several years I imagine he's 'poorer' than most of those buying his work.
Richer in many other ways, before the corbynites bash me.
Those figures are of returns, but not net. Production costs for the old fashioned process are always very high, even though they often go largely unseen. On the flip side, there are plenty of HF/special editions not included. Not that it matters how much the artist takes. His work, his merit, his reward. At 400k income over several years I imagine he's 'poorer' than most of those buying his work. Richer in many other ways, before the corbynites bash me.
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