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Prescription Art Not Responsive , by Deleted on Jul 15, 2019 23:25:21 GMT 1, I'm not sure who you are confusing me with, but I've never made a purchase with PA. my point made You didn't, actually, like, make a point at all. You falsely accused me of something. Just say sorry and move on.
I'm not sure who you are confusing me with, but I've never made a purchase with PA. my point made You didn't, actually, like, make a point at all. You falsely accused me of something. Just say sorry and move on.
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Prescription Art Not Responsive , by The Difaced Assassin on Jul 15, 2019 23:30:36 GMT 1, You didn't, actually, like, make a point at all. You falsely accused me of something. Just say sorry and move on. Yeah I think I have. You accuse PA of shady dealings but had never dealt with them before, where did you pluck that one from?
You didn't, actually, like, make a point at all. You falsely accused me of something. Just say sorry and move on. Yeah I think I have. You accuse PA of shady dealings but had never dealt with them before, where did you pluck that one from?
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Prescription Art Not Responsive , by Deleted on Jul 15, 2019 23:33:32 GMT 1, You didn't, actually, like, make a point at all. You falsely accused me of something. Just say sorry and move on. Yeah I think I have. You accuse PA of shady dealings but had never dealt with them before, where did you pluck that one from? The facts presented in this topic. And my experience inquiring about a piece about which you can read a few pages back.
You didn't, actually, like, make a point at all. You falsely accused me of something. Just say sorry and move on. Yeah I think I have. You accuse PA of shady dealings but had never dealt with them before, where did you pluck that one from? The facts presented in this topic. And my experience inquiring about a piece about which you can read a few pages back.
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Prescription Art Not Responsive , by The Difaced Assassin on Jul 15, 2019 23:39:54 GMT 1, Yeah I think I have. You accuse PA of shady dealings but had never dealt with them before, where did you pluck that one from? The facts presented in this topic. And my experience inquiring about a piece about which you can read a few pages back. One side of the story isnโt fact. PA not responding to your inquiry doesnt make them shady, maybe they just think you are a repugnant racist anti-muslim p*ick and donโt like you, maybe
Yeah I think I have. You accuse PA of shady dealings but had never dealt with them before, where did you pluck that one from? The facts presented in this topic. And my experience inquiring about a piece about which you can read a few pages back. One side of the story isnโt fact. PA not responding to your inquiry doesnt make them shady, maybe they just think you are a repugnant racist anti-muslim p*ick and donโt like you, maybe
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Prescription Art Not Responsive , by Deleted on Jul 15, 2019 23:41:19 GMT 1, The facts presented in this topic. And my experience inquiring about a piece about which you can read a few pages back. One side of the story isnโt fact. PA not responding to your inquiry doesnt make them shady, maybe they just think you are a racist anti-muslim p*ick and donโt like you, maybe Lol. Ok. No point in this.
The facts presented in this topic. And my experience inquiring about a piece about which you can read a few pages back. One side of the story isnโt fact. PA not responding to your inquiry doesnt make them shady, maybe they just think you are a racist anti-muslim p*ick and donโt like you, maybe Lol. Ok. No point in this.
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Prescription Art Not Responsive , by Express Post on Jul 16, 2019 0:00:10 GMT 1, Wait till she The Difaced Assassin uses the rape card. #metoo
One side of the story isnโt fact. ย PA not responding to your inquiry doesnt make them shady, maybe they just think you are a racist anti-muslim p*ick and donโt like you, maybe Lol. Ok. No point in this.
Wait till she The Difaced Assassin uses the rape card. #metoo One side of the story isnโt fact. ย PA not responding to your inquiry doesnt make them shady, maybe they just think you are a racist anti-muslim p*ick and donโt like you, maybe Lol. Ok. No point in this.
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Prescription Art Not Responsive , by That Print Guy on Jul 16, 2019 2:52:05 GMT 1, It's a pretty weird dystopia to see people on an art forum defend a galleries shady dealings and attack the guy that got lied to and told his money is somewhere in limbo. it's just like when 20 people say "sew and sew is a great guy" and then it takes longer to actually get a resolution to an issue because everyone said not to worry. $20k is not a small sum.
It's a pretty weird dystopia to see people on an art forum defend a galleries shady dealings and attack the guy that got lied to and told his money is somewhere in limbo. it's just like when 20 people say "sew and sew is a great guy" and then it takes longer to actually get a resolution to an issue because everyone said not to worry. $20k is not a small sum.
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Prescription Art Not Responsive , by iamzero on Jul 16, 2019 8:04:12 GMT 1, This thread is crazy. However I canโt get my head around the fact that a professional art dealer selling a 20k print doesnโt turn it over to inspect the back or measure the thing to check the size. No axe to grind as it just my observation on this as Iโm sure PA is a great guy but is this just not odd when dealing with something of such value?
This thread is crazy. However I canโt get my head around the fact that a professional art dealer selling a 20k print doesnโt turn it over to inspect the back or measure the thing to check the size. No axe to grind as it just my observation on this as Iโm sure PA is a great guy but is this just not odd when dealing with something of such value?
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Prescription Art Not Responsive , by Sacked... on Jul 16, 2019 9:50:08 GMT 1, I have brought and consigned with PA many times over the past 10 years and have never had any problems . James has Built many great relationships with artists,galleries and art lovers. He has supported many artists over that time,travelling all over Europe to collect Thier works ,for shows.He is not just a gallerist.
During all this time ,I have never heard the word 'shady' said about him.
I have brought and consigned with PA many times over the past 10 years and have never had any problems . James has Built many great relationships with artists,galleries and art lovers. He has supported many artists over that time,travelling all over Europe to collect Thier works ,for shows.He is not just a gallerist.
During all this time ,I have never heard the word 'shady' said about him.
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Prescription Art Not Responsive , by Ponyboy Curtis on Jul 16, 2019 10:50:54 GMT 1, This thread has rustled a few jimmies for sure. I know neither the seller or the buyer but let me just say that you've got to hit me pretty damn hard to get a fiver out of my hand. To be down $20k would have me windmilling like a drunk on a Friday night who's just had his kebab knocked out of his hand whilst getting pushed out of the way for a taxi. And if it's your business selling $20k prints then you should have the money to deal efficiently.
This thread has rustled a few jimmies for sure. I know neither the seller or the buyer but let me just say that you've got to hit me pretty damn hard to get a fiver out of my hand. To be down $20k would have me windmilling like a drunk on a Friday night who's just had his kebab knocked out of his hand whilst getting pushed out of the way for a taxi. And if it's your business selling $20k prints then you should have the money to deal efficiently.
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Prescription Art Not Responsive , by Rouen Cathedral on Jul 16, 2019 12:28:50 GMT 1, Immediate gratification culture at work. Seems to op wanted a 20k refund before he even shipped it back.
Itโs weird to say money isnโt an issue and spend 1k more on a print just for the fun of it. Then the next day act like you wonโt eat cause the refund hasnโt been immediate.
Immediate gratification culture at work. Seems to op wanted a 20k refund before he even shipped it back.
Itโs weird to say money isnโt an issue and spend 1k more on a print just for the fun of it. Then the next day act like you wonโt eat cause the refund hasnโt been immediate.
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Prescription Art Not Responsive , by Deleted on Jul 16, 2019 14:16:45 GMT 1, Immediate gratification culture at work. Seems to op wanted a 20k refund before he even shipped it back. Itโs weird to say money isnโt an issue and spend 1k more on a print just for the fun of it. Then the next day act like you wonโt eat cause the refund hasnโt been immediate. As far as I know, the original complaint had nothing to do with a refund. It was that;
(a) the gallery sent a print stated as 'mint' that obviously was not in mint condition.
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(b) they were not answering e-mails.
Of course, things have developed since then but, to start with, it was not really about an immediate refund.
Immediate gratification culture at work. Seems to op wanted a 20k refund before he even shipped it back. Itโs weird to say money isnโt an issue and spend 1k more on a print just for the fun of it. Then the next day act like you wonโt eat cause the refund hasnโt been immediate. As far as I know, the original complaint had nothing to do with a refund. It was that; (a) the gallery sent a print stated as 'mint' that obviously was not in mint condition. and (b) they were not answering e-mails. Of course, things have developed since then but, to start with, it was not really about an immediate refund.
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Prescription Art Not Responsive , by Ottomatik on Jul 16, 2019 14:49:03 GMT 1, Has the OP received any response the past 48hours?
Has the OP received any response the past 48hours?
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Prescription Art Not Responsive , by Inknart on Jul 16, 2019 15:10:12 GMT 1, Has the OP received any response the past 48hours? I have. James is going to try and collect the piece before Mark at PFG leaves this weekend for a month.
Has the OP received any response the past 48hours? I have. James is going to try and collect the piece before Mark at PFG leaves this weekend for a month.
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Prescription Art Not Responsive , by 19818914 on Jul 16, 2019 15:35:49 GMT 1, This thread should be a sticky.
This thread should be a sticky.
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Prescription Art Not Responsive , by nex on Jul 16, 2019 15:41:28 GMT 1, This thread should be a sticky. [br
Iโd suggest the op should do the exact opposite
This thread should be a sticky. [br Iโd suggest the op should do the exact opposite
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Prescription Art Not Responsive , by Coach on Jul 16, 2019 15:42:39 GMT 1, This thread should be a sticky.
Certainly not.
This thread should be a sticky. Certainly not.
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Prescription Art Not Responsive , by orchid on Jul 16, 2019 15:47:47 GMT 1, May be worth pinning a separate thread for new collectors (with link to this thread) on what to look out for when buying from galleries (seeking exact measurements, full hi res back and front pictures, videos, framing receipts, ways to resolve). Inkart was slightly naive here too.
May be worth pinning a separate thread for new collectors (with link to this thread) on what to look out for when buying from galleries (seeking exact measurements, full hi res back and front pictures, videos, framing receipts, ways to resolve). Inkart was slightly naive here too.
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Prescription Art Not Responsive , by Rouen Cathedral on Jul 16, 2019 15:51:17 GMT 1, Immediate gratification culture at work. Seems to op wanted a 20k refund before he even shipped it back. Itโs weird to say money isnโt an issue and spend 1k more on a print just for the fun of it. Then the next day act like you wonโt eat cause the refund hasnโt been immediate. As far as I know, the original complaint had nothing to do with a refund. ย It was that; (a) the gallery sent a print stated as 'mint' that obviously was not in mint condition.ย andย (b) they were not answering e-mails.ย Of course, things have developed since then but, to start with, it was not really about an immediate refund.
That might be the case. There are some inconsistencies on the timeline though.
Immediate gratification culture at work. Seems to op wanted a 20k refund before he even shipped it back. Itโs weird to say money isnโt an issue and spend 1k more on a print just for the fun of it. Then the next day act like you wonโt eat cause the refund hasnโt been immediate. As far as I know, the original complaint had nothing to do with a refund. ย It was that; (a) the gallery sent a print stated as 'mint' that obviously was not in mint condition.ย andย (b) they were not answering e-mails.ย Of course, things have developed since then but, to start with, it was not really about an immediate refund. That might be the case. There are some inconsistencies on the timeline though.
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Prescription Art Not Responsive , by Inknart on Jul 16, 2019 15:51:48 GMT 1, May be worth pinning a separate thread for new collectors on what to look out for when buying from galleries (seeking exact measurements, full hi res back and front pictures, videos, framing receipts, ways to resolve). Inkart was slightly naive here too. That's good advice, and yes, I will agree I was probably not as thorough as I should have been, regardless of reputations. Moral of the story is do your due diligence, no matter what. A good sticky would be recommendations as to what to look for when spending this kind of money. The measurement pictures would have never crossed my mind, so that is a good takeaway for myself. Also maybe ensuring funds are available for an immediate refund in the event of a return.
This thread got very messy, and i apologize. I hope once it's resolved, Moderators can remove this thread and create a sticky in oversight as to what questions to ask when purchasing from someone and additional measures that can be taken to ensure both parties are not at risk.
May be worth pinning a separate thread for new collectors on what to look out for when buying from galleries (seeking exact measurements, full hi res back and front pictures, videos, framing receipts, ways to resolve). Inkart was slightly naive here too. That's good advice, and yes, I will agree I was probably not as thorough as I should have been, regardless of reputations. Moral of the story is do your due diligence, no matter what. A good sticky would be recommendations as to what to look for when spending this kind of money. The measurement pictures would have never crossed my mind, so that is a good takeaway for myself. Also maybe ensuring funds are available for an immediate refund in the event of a return. This thread got very messy, and i apologize. I hope once it's resolved, Moderators can remove this thread and create a sticky in oversight as to what questions to ask when purchasing from someone and additional measures that can be taken to ensure both parties are not at risk.
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Prescription Art Not Responsive , by 19818914 on Jul 16, 2019 15:59:32 GMT 1, This thread should be a sticky. Certainly not.
Why not? The forum is clearly divided over the situation. It gives people a good reference of who they should deal with.
This thread should be a sticky. Certainly not. Why not? The forum is clearly divided over the situation. It gives people a good reference of who they should deal with.
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Prescription Art Not Responsive , by blerd on Jul 16, 2019 16:16:59 GMT 1, Has the OP received any response the past 48hours? I have. James is going to try and collect the piece before Mark at PFG leaves this weekend for a month. perfect. when this is resolved this post should be deleted.
Has the OP received any response the past 48hours? I have. James is going to try and collect the piece before Mark at PFG leaves this weekend for a month. perfect. when this is resolved this post should be deleted.
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Prescription Art Not Responsive , by Deleted on Jul 16, 2019 16:18:17 GMT 1, Immediate gratification culture at work. Seems to op wanted a 20k refund before he even shipped it back. Itโs weird to say money isnโt an issue and spend 1k more on a print just for the fun of it. Then the next day act like you wonโt eat cause the refund hasnโt been immediate. As far as I know, the original complaint had nothing to do with a refund. It was that; (a) the gallery sent a print stated as 'mint' that obviously was not in mint condition. and (b) they were not answering e-mails. Of course, things have developed since then but, to start with, it was not really about an immediate refund. "As far as I know" is the key thing here. So many people stating what Prescription Art has and hasn't done, and what it should have done, based on a situation none of us have first hand knowledge of. No gallery in the world is going to refund a ยฃ20k purchase price before it has the print back in hand. Five days is not a long time for something like this to be resolved. 24 hours is certainly not a long time for a gallery, or anyone else, to respond to an email. This should have been handled between customer and seller, not taken to a public forum. It shouldn't serve as a warning of anything other than to pick up a bloody phone and have a conversation if you want to solve a problem as quickly as possible.
Immediate gratification culture at work. Seems to op wanted a 20k refund before he even shipped it back. Itโs weird to say money isnโt an issue and spend 1k more on a print just for the fun of it. Then the next day act like you wonโt eat cause the refund hasnโt been immediate. As far as I know, the original complaint had nothing to do with a refund. It was that; (a) the gallery sent a print stated as 'mint' that obviously was not in mint condition. and (b) they were not answering e-mails. Of course, things have developed since then but, to start with, it was not really about an immediate refund. "As far as I know" is the key thing here. So many people stating what Prescription Art has and hasn't done, and what it should have done, based on a situation none of us have first hand knowledge of. No gallery in the world is going to refund a ยฃ20k purchase price before it has the print back in hand. Five days is not a long time for something like this to be resolved. 24 hours is certainly not a long time for a gallery, or anyone else, to respond to an email. This should have been handled between customer and seller, not taken to a public forum. It shouldn't serve as a warning of anything other than to pick up a bloody phone and have a conversation if you want to solve a problem as quickly as possible.
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Prescription Art Not Responsive , by orchid on Jul 16, 2019 16:41:02 GMT 1, I have. James is going to try and collect the piece before Mark at PFG leaves this weekend for a month.ย perfect. when this is resolved this post should be deleted.ย
Why? Are you for censorship?
I have. James is going to try and collect the piece before Mark at PFG leaves this weekend for a month.ย perfect. when this is resolved this post should be deleted.ย Why? Are you for censorship?
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Prescription Art Not Responsive , by Deleted on Jul 16, 2019 16:42:27 GMT 1, perfect. when this is resolved this post should be deleted. Why? Are you for censorship?
I am, Big hairy backs really should be covered
perfect. when this is resolved this post should be deleted. Why? Are you for censorship? I am, Big hairy backs really should be covered
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Prescription Art Not Responsive , by blerd on Jul 16, 2019 17:06:55 GMT 1, Why? Are you for censorship? I am, Big hairy backs really should be covered yeah! socks and sandals too.
Why? Are you for censorship? I am, Big hairy backs really should be covered yeah! socks and sandals too.
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Prescription Art Not Responsive , by blerd on Jul 16, 2019 17:11:44 GMT 1, perfect. when this is resolved this post should be deleted. Why? Are you for censorship? Even the OP suggests removing the thread. its a car crash.
perfect. when this is resolved this post should be deleted. Why? Are you for censorship? Even the OP suggests removing the thread. its a car crash.
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Prescription Art Not Responsive , by Dive Jedi on Jul 16, 2019 17:23:17 GMT 1, Why? Are you for censorship? Even the OP suggests removing the thread. its a car crash. I'm sure he does. But he started it..... Now it's here to stay.
Why? Are you for censorship? Even the OP suggests removing the thread. its a car crash. I'm sure he does. But he started it..... Now it's here to stay.
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Prescription Art Not Responsive , by Deleted on Jul 16, 2019 17:37:45 GMT 1, Even the OP suggests removing the thread. its a car crash. I'm sure he does. But he started it..... Now it's here to stay. I doubt the OP is bothered either way. But I'm sure P.A. is.
Even the OP suggests removing the thread. its a car crash. I'm sure he does. But he started it..... Now it's here to stay. I doubt the OP is bothered either way. But I'm sure P.A. is.
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Prescription Art Not Responsive , by orchid on Jul 16, 2019 17:51:20 GMT 1, Why? Are you for censorship? Even the OP suggests removing the thread. its a car crash.ย
Exactly. So it should be informative to buyers and galleries alike on pitfalls to avoid.
Why? Are you for censorship? Even the OP suggests removing the thread. its a car crash.ย Exactly. So it should be informative to buyers and galleries alike on pitfalls to avoid.
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