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Banksy Grappling Hook, by Rufin the Jungle on Jul 17, 2023 19:03:04 GMT 1, Whoever buys this is a very lucky person ⭐️
Whoever buys this is a very lucky person ⭐️
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Banksy Grappling Hook, by Londown 01 on Jul 20, 2023 10:57:41 GMT 1, You shouldn't regret that decision I'm sure. I think that editioned sculptures by Banksy should be in high demand in the years to come because they are
a) very few b) very small editions c) strong in motive d) strong in aesthetics e) (continue list as you please)
You shouldn't regret that decision I'm sure. I think that editioned sculptures by Banksy should be in high demand in the years to come because they are a) very few b) very small editions c) strong in motive d) strong in aesthetics e) (continue list as you please)
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Banksy Grappling Hook, by Gunny on Jul 20, 2023 11:20:21 GMT 1, You shouldn't regret that decision I'm sure. I think that editioned sculptures by Banksy should be in high demand in the years to come because they are a) very few b) very small editions c) strong in motive d) strong in aesthetics e) (continue list as you please) Yes agreed - i mean, how many actual sculptures are there out there? The bronze rat, the Police Helmet I guess you could call a sculpture, Watchtower, other bits from GDP........... can't think of much more editioned sculptures. The Hook is only 26 and i heard there weren't even 26 made, which probably makes sense as you don't come across them often.
You shouldn't regret that decision I'm sure. I think that editioned sculptures by Banksy should be in high demand in the years to come because they are a) very few b) very small editions c) strong in motive d) strong in aesthetics e) (continue list as you please) Yes agreed - i mean, how many actual sculptures are there out there? The bronze rat, the Police Helmet I guess you could call a sculpture, Watchtower, other bits from GDP........... can't think of much more editioned sculptures. The Hook is only 26 and i heard there weren't even 26 made, which probably makes sense as you don't come across them often.
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Banksy Grappling Hook, by inefficiencyof on Jul 20, 2023 13:44:38 GMT 1, You shouldn't regret that decision I'm sure. I think that editioned sculptures by Banksy should be in high demand in the years to come because they are a) very few b) very small editions c) strong in motive d) strong in aesthetics e) (continue list as you please) Yes agreed - i mean, how many actual sculptures are there out there? The bronze rat, the Police Helmet I guess you could call a sculpture, Watchtower, other bits from GDP........... can't think of much more editioned sculptures. The Hook is only 26 and i heard there weren't even 26 made, which probably makes sense as you don't come across them often. Have you got it displayed or in storage? Would love to see photos of it in situ or how you display it. A lovely piece to own. 🙌🏻🙏🏻
You shouldn't regret that decision I'm sure. I think that editioned sculptures by Banksy should be in high demand in the years to come because they are a) very few b) very small editions c) strong in motive d) strong in aesthetics e) (continue list as you please) Yes agreed - i mean, how many actual sculptures are there out there? The bronze rat, the Police Helmet I guess you could call a sculpture, Watchtower, other bits from GDP........... can't think of much more editioned sculptures. The Hook is only 26 and i heard there weren't even 26 made, which probably makes sense as you don't come across them often. Have you got it displayed or in storage? Would love to see photos of it in situ or how you display it. A lovely piece to own. 🙌🏻🙏🏻
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Banksy Grappling Hook, by Carl Cashman Art on Jul 20, 2023 14:05:08 GMT 1, This is a museum grade Artwork, 100% a sculpture. Good luck with the sale 👍
This is a museum grade Artwork, 100% a sculpture. Good luck with the sale 👍
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Banksy Grappling Hook, by Newar on Jul 20, 2023 14:10:57 GMT 1, Grail piece also on of my fav piece GL
Grail piece also on of my fav piece GL
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Banksy Grappling Hook, by Carl Cashman Art on Jul 20, 2023 14:42:07 GMT 1, I added a picture to the beginning of the thread............. not sure how to add one to the end of the thread. This was/is mine. We took a trip to Ely to see that in situ
I added a picture to the beginning of the thread............. not sure how to add one to the end of the thread. This was/is mine. We took a trip to Ely to see that in situ
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Banksy Grappling Hook, by inefficiencyof on Jul 20, 2023 14:51:02 GMT 1, I added a picture to the beginning of the thread............. not sure how to add one to the end of the thread. This was/is mine. Sorry this hadn’t loaded when I posted. I can see it now. Thank you.
I added a picture to the beginning of the thread............. not sure how to add one to the end of the thread. This was/is mine. Sorry this hadn’t loaded when I posted. I can see it now. Thank you.
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Banksy Grappling Hook, by Criminal Mischief on Jul 20, 2023 15:08:31 GMT 1, That is so funny, displaying it in a Cathedral. Awesome to see you not only having it on view, but sharing it with the public as well.
That is so funny, displaying it in a Cathedral. Awesome to see you not only having it on view, but sharing it with the public as well.
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Banksy Grappling Hook, by ┏( ͡❛ ͜ʖ ͡❛)┛ EnS on Jul 20, 2023 15:54:02 GMT 1, Holy Mother of Jesus, that is a great piece.
Holy Mother of Jesus, that is a great piece.
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Banksy Grappling Hook, by begs on Aug 4, 2023 11:45:51 GMT 1, Was some one selling a Grappling hook on the forum ?
Was some one selling a Grappling hook on the forum ?
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Banksy Grappling Hook, by reeder77 on Aug 10, 2023 3:17:57 GMT 1, Looking to purchase a grappling hook by banksy. I realize the market is soft. But if someone is out there and needs to move one, I’m a buyer
For my personal collection. Just always have loved the aura of the piece.
Looking to purchase a grappling hook by banksy. I realize the market is soft. But if someone is out there and needs to move one, I’m a buyer
For my personal collection. Just always have loved the aura of the piece.
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Banksy Grappling Hook, by champ101 on Apr 1, 2024 16:13:53 GMT 1, Is it possible to buy a grappling hook for £75k?
I'm still looking and happy for advice on value.
thanks
Is it possible to buy a grappling hook for £75k?
I'm still looking and happy for advice on value.
thanks
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Banksy Grappling Hook, by Lroy on Apr 1, 2024 16:44:59 GMT 1, Is it possible to buy a grappling hook for £75k? I'm still looking and happy for advice on value. thanks Maybe I will tell bullshit, but I would say the double.
this very limited artwork has a contemporary side.
Is it possible to buy a grappling hook for £75k? I'm still looking and happy for advice on value. thanks Maybe I will tell bullshit, but I would say the double. this very limited artwork has a contemporary side.
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Banksy Grappling Hook, by champ101 on Apr 1, 2024 19:46:45 GMT 1, I believe there was a sale for sub 100 on forum before Christmas - i maybe wrong.
I believe there was a sale for sub 100 on forum before Christmas - i maybe wrong.
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Banksy Grappling Hook, by Gunny on Apr 1, 2024 22:32:28 GMT 1, There has never been one sub 100 on here, i always keep an eye out as I own one
There has never been one sub 100 on here, i always keep an eye out as I own one
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Banksy Grappling Hook, by Terry Fuckwitt on Apr 1, 2024 22:50:50 GMT 1, There has never been one sub 100 on here, i always keep an eye out as I own one Think he means forum auctions
There has never been one sub 100 on here, i always keep an eye out as I own one Think he means forum auctions
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Banksy Grappling Hook, by Gunny on Apr 1, 2024 22:56:02 GMT 1, Oh, there hasn't been one for sale there either - in fact there has never been one up for auction since 2019.
Oh, there hasn't been one for sale there either - in fact there has never been one up for auction since 2019.
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Banksy Grappling Hook, by nobokov on Apr 2, 2024 0:41:10 GMT 1, Is it possible to buy a grappling hook for £75k? I'm still looking and happy for advice on value. thanks £75k? You can get about 5000 grappling hooks for £75k.
Is it possible to buy a grappling hook for £75k? I'm still looking and happy for advice on value. thanks £75k? You can get about 5000 grappling hooks for £75k.
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Banksy Grappling Hook, by Newar on Apr 2, 2024 12:32:47 GMT 1, There are some amazing street art piece in this auction , great selection
There are some amazing street art piece in this auction , great selection
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Banksy Grappling Hook, by Gunny on Apr 17, 2024 18:52:49 GMT 1, Grappling Hook sold today at ArtCurial for 92k euro hammer - so prob about 125k euro all in, so about £100k.
In a really shite market all round and for Banksy also, not a bad result, considering the market is at the bottom!
Grappling Hook sold today at ArtCurial for 92k euro hammer - so prob about 125k euro all in, so about £100k.
In a really shite market all round and for Banksy also, not a bad result, considering the market is at the bottom!
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Banksy Grappling Hook, by Wanchope on May 2, 2024 9:59:22 GMT 1, So probably £70-75,000 to the seller which sounds about right
So probably £70-75,000 to the seller which sounds about right
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Banksy Grappling Hook, by Fuzzyduck121 on May 2, 2024 13:01:02 GMT 1, Grappling Hook sold today at ArtCurial for 92k euro hammer - so prob about 125k euro all in, so about £100k. In a really shite market all round and for Banksy also, not a bad result, considering the market is at the bottom! what in the world makes you think the market is at the bottom?
Grappling Hook sold today at ArtCurial for 92k euro hammer - so prob about 125k euro all in, so about £100k. In a really shite market all round and for Banksy also, not a bad result, considering the market is at the bottom! what in the world makes you think the market is at the bottom?
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Banksy Grappling Hook, by Johnny Sarcasm on May 2, 2024 14:57:00 GMT 1, Grappling Hook sold today at ArtCurial for 92k euro hammer - so prob about 125k euro all in, so about £100k. In a really shite market all round and for Banksy also, not a bad result, considering the market is at the bottom! what in the world makes you think the market is at the bottom? Wishful thinking I should think given he owns one and was offered £300K for it last year! As an owner of multiple Banksy pieces I too hope we are at the bottom but not so sure
Grappling Hook sold today at ArtCurial for 92k euro hammer - so prob about 125k euro all in, so about £100k. In a really shite market all round and for Banksy also, not a bad result, considering the market is at the bottom! what in the world makes you think the market is at the bottom? Wishful thinking I should think given he owns one and was offered £300K for it last year! As an owner of multiple Banksy pieces I too hope we are at the bottom but not so sure
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Banksy Grappling Hook, by Fuzzyduck121 on May 2, 2024 15:14:22 GMT 1, I suspect the bounce will be slow to materialise for the editions market in general and until Banksy either gains institutional recognition or falls into a familiar pattern assigned to AAA rated artists that have a long term market, in terms of collections held, representation etc its going to be an uphill battle to ever claw back the gains of the last few years.
Anyone under the impression there is pent up demand from would be buyers and liquidity ready to pour in once values hit a certain level are mistaken in my personal view.
I say this as a collector and significant holder
I suspect the bounce will be slow to materialise for the editions market in general and until Banksy either gains institutional recognition or falls into a familiar pattern assigned to AAA rated artists that have a long term market, in terms of collections held, representation etc its going to be an uphill battle to ever claw back the gains of the last few years.
Anyone under the impression there is pent up demand from would be buyers and liquidity ready to pour in once values hit a certain level are mistaken in my personal view.
I say this as a collector and significant holder
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Banksy Grappling Hook, by Jeezuz Jones Snr on May 2, 2024 22:21:39 GMT 1, Just saw the first page, this was released in 2017! Wow 6 years gone so quick 😯. Love this piece, one of his best 👍
Just saw the first page, this was released in 2017! Wow 6 years gone so quick 😯. Love this piece, one of his best 👍
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Banksy Grappling Hook, by LJCal on May 2, 2024 22:39:37 GMT 1, I suspect the bounce will be slow to materialise for the editions market in general and until Banksy either gains institutional recognition or falls into a familiar pattern assigned to AAA rated artists that have a long term market, in terms of collections held, representation etc its going to be an uphill battle to ever claw back the gains of the last few years. Anyone under the impression there is pent up demand from would be buyers and liquidity ready to pour in once values hit a certain level are mistaken in my personal view. I say this as a collector and significant holder I don’t disagree that it’s unlikely we’ll see anywhere near the levels achieved at the peak in real terms, probably again. Likewise when the recovery materialises (and I think it will) it will likely be slow and steady growth assuming his market is properly managed.
I don’t agree that he needs institutional acceptance or blue chip representation. He’s built a following and fanbase much bigger than the majority of represented artists, albeit perhaps his collector base is not as stable or his market as well managed. I struggle to think of an artist alive or dead who can pull a crowd like Banksy and whilst he’s a big part of the public consciousness once macro economics improve I believe the size and value of his market will stay healthy. Obviously times and tastes change but think we are a long way off from him falling out of favour
I suspect the bounce will be slow to materialise for the editions market in general and until Banksy either gains institutional recognition or falls into a familiar pattern assigned to AAA rated artists that have a long term market, in terms of collections held, representation etc its going to be an uphill battle to ever claw back the gains of the last few years. Anyone under the impression there is pent up demand from would be buyers and liquidity ready to pour in once values hit a certain level are mistaken in my personal view. I say this as a collector and significant holder I don’t disagree that it’s unlikely we’ll see anywhere near the levels achieved at the peak in real terms, probably again. Likewise when the recovery materialises (and I think it will) it will likely be slow and steady growth assuming his market is properly managed. I don’t agree that he needs institutional acceptance or blue chip representation. He’s built a following and fanbase much bigger than the majority of represented artists, albeit perhaps his collector base is not as stable or his market as well managed. I struggle to think of an artist alive or dead who can pull a crowd like Banksy and whilst he’s a big part of the public consciousness once macro economics improve I believe the size and value of his market will stay healthy. Obviously times and tastes change but think we are a long way off from him falling out of favour
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Banksy Grappling Hook, by revert on May 3, 2024 9:26:49 GMT 1, I suspect the bounce will be slow to materialise for the editions market in general and until Banksy either gains institutional recognition or falls into a familiar pattern assigned to AAA rated artists that have a long term market, in terms of collections held, representation etc its going to be an uphill battle to ever claw back the gains of the last few years. Anyone under the impression there is pent up demand from would be buyers and liquidity ready to pour in once values hit a certain level are mistaken in my personal view. I say this as a collector and significant holder I don’t disagree that it’s unlikely we’ll see anywhere near the levels achieved at the peak in real terms, probably again. Likewise when the recovery materialises (and I think it will) it will likely be slow and steady growth assuming his market is properly managed. I don’t agree that he needs institutional acceptance or blue chip representation. He’s built a following and fanbase much bigger than the majority of represented artists, albeit perhaps his collector base is not as stable or his market as well managed. I struggle to think of an artist alive or dead who can pull a crowd like Banksy and whilst he’s a big part of the public consciousness once macro economics improve I believe the size and value of his market will stay healthy. Obviously times and tastes change but think we are a long way off from him falling out of favour Lots of fans but fans don't necessarily equate to investors. Investors spend based on faith and confidence. Blue Chip representation would bring that to investors but it doesn't feel right for B, i can't see him travelling that road. Doesn't seem the type that likes being told what to do for starters. The Banksy market is made up of small time galleries and dealers who aren't known at all in the scheme of things, most rose with the artist. All are small fish in a very big pond. If Pest Control operated well, with a capable team and were involved in the market out side of selling primary work they don't want back, that would instill a confidence and drive the market. They have the influence/stature. They could potentially control their own market. But they don't appear to have interest and that leaves small time dealers and galleries with nobody in charge really. Nobody steering the ship. None of the major galleries have any interest in getting involved, why would they. The artist is highly unlikely to go down the route of representation from Gagosian etc and the secondary markets too volatile, too much drama, it's uncontrolled , with very small margins for it to interest them. Much easier and safer for them to sell and promote their own artists they have built relationships with. The majority of old market buyers(effectively the backbone/bulk of the market) stepped out by 2020. The market was starting to outgrow the old market buyers largely. I do feel a lot will step back in but hard to know at what price point. The buyers that paid the crazy sums have seen potential loses of 80+% in some cases so we can rule those out largely as future buyers. That leaves us with the old market buyers and any new interest. Old market buyers won't step back in where they stepped out. Also they already have Banksys, maybe enough in some cases. Many will have been put off by PC, how they operate generally, lack of communication etc New buyers/interest will come for sure. A small number will spend 50k/100k maybe even 1mill just because they like it and aren't worried about loosing it. The majority will take a considered approach before spending their kids inheritance. I think we'll likely see the market separate. Quality/rarity/image will be a bigger factor than before, as it is with any top tier artists market. Long term he's cemented in the history books. Shorter term who knows. I guess the unknown/what happens next has always been part of the allure with this artist.
I suspect the bounce will be slow to materialise for the editions market in general and until Banksy either gains institutional recognition or falls into a familiar pattern assigned to AAA rated artists that have a long term market, in terms of collections held, representation etc its going to be an uphill battle to ever claw back the gains of the last few years. Anyone under the impression there is pent up demand from would be buyers and liquidity ready to pour in once values hit a certain level are mistaken in my personal view. I say this as a collector and significant holder I don’t disagree that it’s unlikely we’ll see anywhere near the levels achieved at the peak in real terms, probably again. Likewise when the recovery materialises (and I think it will) it will likely be slow and steady growth assuming his market is properly managed. I don’t agree that he needs institutional acceptance or blue chip representation. He’s built a following and fanbase much bigger than the majority of represented artists, albeit perhaps his collector base is not as stable or his market as well managed. I struggle to think of an artist alive or dead who can pull a crowd like Banksy and whilst he’s a big part of the public consciousness once macro economics improve I believe the size and value of his market will stay healthy. Obviously times and tastes change but think we are a long way off from him falling out of favour Lots of fans but fans don't necessarily equate to investors. Investors spend based on faith and confidence. Blue Chip representation would bring that to investors but it doesn't feel right for B, i can't see him travelling that road. Doesn't seem the type that likes being told what to do for starters. The Banksy market is made up of small time galleries and dealers who aren't known at all in the scheme of things, most rose with the artist. All are small fish in a very big pond. If Pest Control operated well, with a capable team and were involved in the market out side of selling primary work they don't want back, that would instill a confidence and drive the market. They have the influence/stature. They could potentially control their own market. But they don't appear to have interest and that leaves small time dealers and galleries with nobody in charge really. Nobody steering the ship. None of the major galleries have any interest in getting involved, why would they. The artist is highly unlikely to go down the route of representation from Gagosian etc and the secondary markets too volatile, too much drama, it's uncontrolled , with very small margins for it to interest them. Much easier and safer for them to sell and promote their own artists they have built relationships with. The majority of old market buyers(effectively the backbone/bulk of the market) stepped out by 2020. The market was starting to outgrow the old market buyers largely. I do feel a lot will step back in but hard to know at what price point. The buyers that paid the crazy sums have seen potential loses of 80+% in some cases so we can rule those out largely as future buyers. That leaves us with the old market buyers and any new interest. Old market buyers won't step back in where they stepped out. Also they already have Banksys, maybe enough in some cases. Many will have been put off by PC, how they operate generally, lack of communication etc New buyers/interest will come for sure. A small number will spend 50k/100k maybe even 1mill just because they like it and aren't worried about loosing it. The majority will take a considered approach before spending their kids inheritance. I think we'll likely see the market separate. Quality/rarity/image will be a bigger factor than before, as it is with any top tier artists market. Long term he's cemented in the history books. Shorter term who knows. I guess the unknown/what happens next has always been part of the allure with this artist.
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