Urban Art Association

I have to agree with Bungle / bongo.

What Bongo said! Should be buying now while deals are good, not selling!!

My WSM is still available if anyone wants it!! ;D

Sorry , no way do I agree with that statement, apart from the credit thing, the spotlight has been on the urban/ street art genre and moved on, perhaps in say 20 years or so, a very few artists may have some cred at auction but that will be about it, you just have to look at art history to forecast the future to a degree, a very high percentage of todays artists will fall by the wayside and be forgotten, so if you think there is going to be a turnaround in this genre, dont hold your breath!!!

Loucastle- Agree that many artists will disappear but Bongo only mentions Banksy who I think will be one of very few to survive this scene.

I personally think Micallef has the potential to be remembered; he moves in circles outside of the 'street art' scene and has some high profile exhibitions that he is contributing towards coming up (royal academy & tate britain). His past accolades are credible and he has the potential to really break in to the ‘proper’ art market! In reality he is only mentioned in this scene because of his connections with Laz. I would say that he needs to be marketed correctly in order to survive though and I guess that is half of the game!

Banksy is a no brainer, he will survive. His recent works have shown everyone why he is held in such high regards and being a front runner in the use of stencils for street art is the name most easily recognizable by the majority of people. I just wish I wasn’t going back to uni in September or else I’d be using my saving to buy his prints instead of future rental payments!

Have the YBA's been forgotten? Have Seen, Futura, Lady Pink, Blek Le Rat, Basquiat been forgotten?

The way in which many of the artists I enjoy have developed their talents over the last few years suggests to me that the best is yet to come. I also think that this art movement has much more significance than people give it credit for. The sheer number of people collecting & enjoying this work is unprecedented.

Also NO-ONE can predict who we will be talking about in 10 years time. 2 years ago no-one would have predicted that Adam Neate would become as good as he has. 1 year ago no-one talked about Parla. For all we know Cartrain might become the most talked about artist of the next 10 years.

I've got opinions about street artists that I think are crap, but there are a lot of artists celebrated by the 'art world' who I also think are crap. I just think that making predictions is a mugs game.

I can't see Jean-Michel Basquiat as an street artist. He died 1988 as an heroin junkie and was the protégé of Andy Warhol but left no essentials.

Blek Le Ret, so-called Father of Street Art. He didn't made it in the past. He isn't doing it now. Why should somebody remember him in the future?

i've picked up a few unsigned banksys in the last month or so but that's me skint for now.

i certainly don't think that prices have hit the bottom yet and a number of people seem to be waiting for the usual peak after the summer holiday period which i am not convinced will materialise.

the prices may go up a bit but i think there will be a lot more to choose from at the end of september and into october as people panic sell because prices aren't increasing or due to doubts about long term gains even if they do.

mine, they are going on the walls. i might sell some other stuff if the price increas materialises though.

Buy to put on the wall and enjoy ;D

Sell if you have to put food on the table to feed the kids, pay the mortgage etc.

I think it has been said many times before "real" art collectors tend to hold pieces for 10 years plus to make a return. Urban art has recently made a very fast return for the owners, now it looks a bit flaky, but like the stock market strong artists will continue to be sought after and over the longer term appreciate. I personally think this applies to Banksy, Micallef and probably Neate plus others that I have sadly missed off the list due ;D

I don't think this genre of art is going anywhere. It resonates with us on a personal level. That's what collecting art is all about.

Take value aside, I'd rather have a Banksy than a Warhol. A Parla than a Pollack. A Neate than a ....Picasso?

I'd hang on as well. Just watch what Banksy pulls off in the upcoming months. You'll be sorry you sold.

Sell your rubbish, buy the best signed Banksy you can afford to and enjoy on the wall.

I agree to a certain extent if talking in generalities, although lets be clear, most of your comparisons carry zero parallels.

I would take any Pollock and run then probably run back for the Picasso and Warhol as well.

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