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Banksy Crude Oils - Video, by Daniel Silk on Sept 15, 2006 11:27:40 GMT 1, If you have any photos of the Crude Oils Show held in London could you please post then on this thread  Thanks ;D
If you have any photos of the Crude Oils Show held in London could you please post then on this thread Thanks ;D |
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Banksy Crude Oils - Video, by gm on Sept 17, 2006 11:02:49 GMT 1, I've got a few photos, but they're all mobile phone quality and not really worth putting up. I'm pretty sure at least a dozen people on here have more, and better ones than I do.
I've got a few photos, but they're all mobile phone quality and not really worth putting up. I'm pretty sure at least a dozen people on here have more, and better ones than I do. |
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Banksy Crude Oils - Video, by gm on Sept 19, 2006 8:27:00 GMT 1,
Aw, bless! LOL ;D
Aw, bless! LOL ;D
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Banksy Crude Oils - Video, by daz205 on Nov 9, 2006 16:42:43 GMT 1, just seen one on ebay from hong kong for £100 dont fancy paying that much for a repro any ideas where else to look?
just seen one on ebay from hong kong for £100 dont fancy paying that much for a repro any ideas where else to look?
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Banksy Crude Oils - Video, by Daniel Silk on Nov 9, 2006 16:58:24 GMT 1, just seen one on ebay from hong kong for £100 dont fancy paying that much for a repro any ideas where else to look?
I know some people would say NEVER buy one of those fake canvases  But if your like me, and ya not rollin in money, so ya cant afford £30,000 on the real thing ;D Why not get a repro?
I dont think I would pay £100 for one but some have bin on ebay for £35-50 each Keep an eyeout! ;D
just seen one on ebay from hong kong for £100 dont fancy paying that much for a repro any ideas where else to look? I know some people would say NEVER buy one of those fake canvases But if your like me, and ya not rollin in money, so ya cant afford £30,000 on the real thing ;D Why not get a repro? I dont think I would pay £100 for one but some have bin on ebay for £35-50 each Keep an eyeout! ;D |
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Banksy Crude Oils - Video, by daz205 on Nov 9, 2006 17:04:33 GMT 1, i completely agree i cant understand how anyone could buy a repro from one of these people i mean it aint going to increase in price overnight on ebay so whats the point if you aint going to make money
cheers for the info i`ll keep my eye out
i completely agree i cant understand how anyone could buy a repro from one of these people i mean it aint going to increase in price overnight on ebay so whats the point if you aint going to make money
cheers for the info i`ll keep my eye out
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Banksy Crude Oils - Video, by manchestermike on Nov 9, 2006 17:14:12 GMT 1, whats the point if you aint going to make money
You like it?
whats the point if you aint going to make money You like it? |
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Banksy Crude Oils - Video, by ptron on Nov 9, 2006 17:18:11 GMT 1, I know I'm going to get flammed for saying this, but aren't all the crude oils kind of fakes anyways. Does Banksy even paint them, or does he just art direct and put his name on it.
I know I'm going to get flammed for saying this, but aren't all the crude oils kind of fakes anyways. Does Banksy even paint them, or does he just art direct and put his name on it.
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Banksy Crude Oils - Video, by ptron on Nov 9, 2006 17:27:56 GMT 1, Maybe fake is the wrong word, and perhaps this is a discussion for another thread, but how much of Banksy's art does he actually do himself?
Maybe fake is the wrong word, and perhaps this is a discussion for another thread, but how much of Banksy's art does he actually do himself?
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Banksy Crude Oils - Video, by thwaites on Nov 9, 2006 18:12:03 GMT 1, hello all. i have not said anything yet but i feel now is the time.
No hostility or anything here, but how can you call his crude oils fakes? what is fake about them? As far as i know they were all genuine paintings that he "vandalised" (i hate that word, implies they were mindless actions of an uncivilised brute, which of course is untrue). Surely if he had painted them himself it would completely negate the whole point of the pieces. I think the most interesting aspect of these works (and many of his other works) is the fact that he has taken a piece which had a particular meaning and audience at one time, and by adding to it/altering it has drastically altered the meaning and understanding of the piece of art.
And i really dont see why someone wouldnt consider buying a reproduction if you cant afford the real thing... sometimes art can just be for aesthetic purposes. I do love my crude oils postcards, i have framed them up a treat! I would like a larger scale image of some of them though. 
Hope everyones bums arent as sore as mine. Bye!
hello all. i have not said anything yet but i feel now is the time. No hostility or anything here, but how can you call his crude oils fakes? what is fake about them? As far as i know they were all genuine paintings that he "vandalised" (i hate that word, implies they were mindless actions of an uncivilised brute, which of course is untrue). Surely if he had painted them himself it would completely negate the whole point of the pieces. I think the most interesting aspect of these works (and many of his other works) is the fact that he has taken a piece which had a particular meaning and audience at one time, and by adding to it/altering it has drastically altered the meaning and understanding of the piece of art. And i really dont see why someone wouldnt consider buying a reproduction if you cant afford the real thing... sometimes art can just be for aesthetic purposes. I do love my crude oils postcards, i have framed them up a treat! I would like a larger scale image of some of them though. Hope everyones bums arent as sore as mine. Bye! |
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Banksy Crude Oils - Video, by Daniel Silk on Nov 9, 2006 18:18:30 GMT 1, hello all. i have not said anything yet but i feel now is the time. No hostility or anything here, but how can you call his crude oils fakes? what is fake about them? As far as i know they were all genuine paintings that he "vandalised" (i hate that word, implies they were mindless actions of an uncivilised brute, which of course is untrue). Surely if he had painted them himself it would completely negate the whole point of the pieces. I think the most interesting aspect of these works (and many of his other works) is the fact that he has taken a piece which had a particular meaning and audience at one time, and by adding to it/altering it has drastically altered the meaning and understanding of the piece of art. And i really dont see why someone wouldnt consider buying a reproduction if you cant afford the real thing... sometimes art can just be for aesthetic purposes. I do love my crude oils postcards, i have framed them up a treat! I would like a larger scale image of some of them though. Hope everyones bums arent as sore as mine. Bye!
The Voice of Reason! Top stuff! ;D and Welcome!
I'm not gonna ask why ya bum is sore I know we have had some time to waist today but thats takin it a bit too far for me ;D
hello all. i have not said anything yet but i feel now is the time. No hostility or anything here, but how can you call his crude oils fakes? what is fake about them? As far as i know they were all genuine paintings that he "vandalised" (i hate that word, implies they were mindless actions of an uncivilised brute, which of course is untrue). Surely if he had painted them himself it would completely negate the whole point of the pieces. I think the most interesting aspect of these works (and many of his other works) is the fact that he has taken a piece which had a particular meaning and audience at one time, and by adding to it/altering it has drastically altered the meaning and understanding of the piece of art. And i really dont see why someone wouldnt consider buying a reproduction if you cant afford the real thing... sometimes art can just be for aesthetic purposes. I do love my crude oils postcards, i have framed them up a treat! I would like a larger scale image of some of them though. Hope everyones bums arent as sore as mine. Bye! The Voice of Reason! Top stuff! ;D and Welcome! I'm not gonna ask why ya bum is sore I know we have had some time to waist today but thats takin it a bit too far for me ;D |
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Banksy Crude Oils - Video, by thwaites on Nov 9, 2006 18:25:02 GMT 1, hahaha
Thanks Silky for the warm welcome! my bum is only sore because of sitting in this chair all day! promise! how is everyone hanging in there?
xx
hahaha
Thanks Silky for the warm welcome! my bum is only sore because of sitting in this chair all day! promise! how is everyone hanging in there?
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Banksy Crude Oils - Video, by Daniel Silk on Nov 9, 2006 18:46:08 GMT 1, hahaha Thanks Silky for the warm welcome! my bum is only sore because of sitting in this chair all day! promise! how is everyone hanging in there? xx
You very welcome  Its nice to see so many new people ;D
hahaha Thanks Silky for the warm welcome! my bum is only sore because of sitting in this chair all day! promise! how is everyone hanging in there? xx You very welcome Its nice to see so many new people ;D |
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Banksy Crude Oils - Video, by numusic on Nov 9, 2006 19:25:50 GMT 1, Maybe fake is the wrong word, and perhaps this is a discussion for another thread, but how much of Banksy's art does he actually do himself?
He's actually a very talented painter in both oil and acrylic. The one thing that separates him from most, he is a talented artist.. he works in 3d, sculptural works print, clay, installation, oil, acrylic, stencil, graf.. the lot !.. not many artist in any discipline attempt this.
Maybe fake is the wrong word, and perhaps this is a discussion for another thread, but how much of Banksy's art does he actually do himself? He's actually a very talented painter in both oil and acrylic. The one thing that separates him from most, he is a talented artist.. he works in 3d, sculptural works print, clay, installation, oil, acrylic, stencil, graf.. the lot !.. not many artist in any discipline attempt this. |
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Banksy Crude Oils - Video, by numusic on Nov 9, 2006 19:30:13 GMT 1, hello all. i have not said anything yet but i feel now is the time. No hostility or anything here, but how can you call his crude oils fakes? what is fake about them? As far as i know they were all genuine paintings that he "vandalised" (i hate that word, implies they were mindless actions of an uncivilised brute, which of course is untrue). Surely if he had painted them himself it would completely negate the whole point of the pieces. I think the most interesting aspect of these works (and many of his other works) is the fact that he has taken a piece which had a particular meaning and audience at one time, and by adding to it/altering it has drastically altered the meaning and understanding of the piece of art. And i really dont see why someone wouldnt consider buying a reproduction if you cant afford the real thing... sometimes art can just be for aesthetic purposes. I do love my crude oils postcards, i have framed them up a treat! I would like a larger scale image of some of them though. Hope everyones bums arent as sore as mine. Bye! The Voice of Reason! Top stuff! ;D and Welcome! I'm not gonna ask why ya bum is sore I know we have had some time to waist today but thats takin it a bit too far for me ;D
Let me do the honours, Hey, why does your bum hurt ? ;D
hello all. i have not said anything yet but i feel now is the time. No hostility or anything here, but how can you call his crude oils fakes? what is fake about them? As far as i know they were all genuine paintings that he "vandalised" (i hate that word, implies they were mindless actions of an uncivilised brute, which of course is untrue). Surely if he had painted them himself it would completely negate the whole point of the pieces. I think the most interesting aspect of these works (and many of his other works) is the fact that he has taken a piece which had a particular meaning and audience at one time, and by adding to it/altering it has drastically altered the meaning and understanding of the piece of art. And i really dont see why someone wouldnt consider buying a reproduction if you cant afford the real thing... sometimes art can just be for aesthetic purposes. I do love my crude oils postcards, i have framed them up a treat! I would like a larger scale image of some of them though. Hope everyones bums arent as sore as mine. Bye! The Voice of Reason! Top stuff! ;D and Welcome! I'm not gonna ask why ya bum is sore I know we have had some time to waist today but thats takin it a bit too far for me ;D Let me do the honours, Hey, why does your bum hurt ? ;D |
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Banksy Crude Oils - Video, by thwaites on Nov 9, 2006 19:35:58 GMT 1, just from sitting in this awful chair all day for days and days. does no one else's hurt just a bit?? i need to get wireless...
just from sitting in this awful chair all day for days and days. does no one else's hurt just a bit?? i need to get wireless...
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Banksy Crude Oils - Video, by BK83 on Nov 9, 2006 19:51:05 GMT 1, NuMusic -- I agree, It really is quite amazing how many genres he works within to create his art. I would like to see him attempt some street art utilizing his oil and acrylic painting skills in the same way Dan Witz does. Banksy's mind for political and public humour is more refined than Witz's so it could make for some very interesting pieces.
NuMusic -- I agree, It really is quite amazing how many genres he works within to create his art. I would like to see him attempt some street art utilizing his oil and acrylic painting skills in the same way Dan Witz does. Banksy's mind for political and public humour is more refined than Witz's so it could make for some very interesting pieces.
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Banksy Crude Oils - Video, by Daniel Silk on Nov 9, 2006 19:51:32 GMT 1, just from sitting in this awful chair all day for days and days. does no one else's hurt just a bit?? i need to get wireless...
Yeah, I feel like getting a lap top just coz of these new prints  Then I could watch Film4 all day ;D and keep an eye on this ;D
just from sitting in this awful chair all day for days and days. does no one else's hurt just a bit?? i need to get wireless... Yeah, I feel like getting a lap top just coz of these new prints Then I could watch Film4 all day ;D and keep an eye on this ;D |
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Banksy Crude Oils - Video, by LoveRat on Nov 9, 2006 19:52:58 GMT 1, I know I'm going to get flammed for saying this, but aren't all the crude oils kind of fakes anyways. Does Banksy even paint them, or does he just art direct and put his name on it.
He described them himself as "remixes"
Kind of sums it up well for me , old classics bought up to date with a modern twist
I know I'm going to get flammed for saying this, but aren't all the crude oils kind of fakes anyways. Does Banksy even paint them, or does he just art direct and put his name on it. He described them himself as "remixes" Kind of sums it up well for me , old classics bought up to date with a modern twist |
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Banksy Crude Oils - Video, by Ågentßacardi on Nov 9, 2006 21:21:19 GMT 1, Regarding the repros, I think you should get them if you're in love with the image and the message... especially if it's well done. Like Silky said, not everyone can afford £30,000 for a canvas, and since there are no prints of the canvas pieces, repros are the next best thing. Yes, the value will never go up, but is that the only reason why you're interested in Banksy's work?
So if you have a repro hanging on your wall, yes, it will never be a 'vandalized' masterpiece by Banksy, but the meaning and significance of the piece will still be there as far as you're concerned... and to me, that means much more than its monetary worth.
Besides, even if I bought a genuine £30,000 canvas and loved the piece so much that I would never want to part with it, how does price appreciation affect me? I'm never going to sell it. It could be worth a zillion dollars in a year, but as long as you don't sell it, price appreciation/depreciation really doesn't affect you at all.
I guess it all depends on, as the POW newsletter has alluded, do you buy art out of love, or out of what money you can make off it?
Regarding the repros, I think you should get them if you're in love with the image and the message... especially if it's well done. Like Silky said, not everyone can afford £30,000 for a canvas, and since there are no prints of the canvas pieces, repros are the next best thing. Yes, the value will never go up, but is that the only reason why you're interested in Banksy's work? So if you have a repro hanging on your wall, yes, it will never be a 'vandalized' masterpiece by Banksy, but the meaning and significance of the piece will still be there as far as you're concerned... and to me, that means much more than its monetary worth. Besides, even if I bought a genuine £30,000 canvas and loved the piece so much that I would never want to part with it, how does price appreciation affect me? I'm never going to sell it. It could be worth a zillion dollars in a year, but as long as you don't sell it, price appreciation/depreciation really doesn't affect you at all. I guess it all depends on, as the POW newsletter has alluded, do you buy art out of love, or out of what money you can make off it? |
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Banksy Crude Oils - Video, by ptron on Nov 9, 2006 21:42:15 GMT 1, Maybe fake is the wrong word, and perhaps this is a discussion for another thread, but how much of Banksy's art does he actually do himself? He's actually a very talented painter in both oil and acrylic. The one thing that separates him from most, he is a talented artist.. he works in 3d, sculptural works print, clay, installation, oil, acrylic, stencil, graf.. the lot !.. not many artist in any discipline attempt this.
I thought I remebered Banksy saying he got into stencils because he couldn't paint. It's refreshing to hear that he actually can paint. But how about the sculptures at the LA show. Did he do those too?
Maybe fake is the wrong word, and perhaps this is a discussion for another thread, but how much of Banksy's art does he actually do himself? He's actually a very talented painter in both oil and acrylic. The one thing that separates him from most, he is a talented artist.. he works in 3d, sculptural works print, clay, installation, oil, acrylic, stencil, graf.. the lot !.. not many artist in any discipline attempt this. I thought I remebered Banksy saying he got into stencils because he couldn't paint. It's refreshing to hear that he actually can paint. But how about the sculptures at the LA show. Did he do those too? |
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Banksy Crude Oils - Video, by ptron on Nov 9, 2006 21:43:46 GMT 1, I know I'm going to get flammed for saying this, but aren't all the crude oils kind of fakes anyways. Does Banksy even paint them, or does he just art direct and put his name on it. He described them himself as "remixes" Kind of sums it up well for me , old classics bought up to date with a modern twist
Yeah I totally love them, I was just unsure if he did the actual remixing or he art directed someone else.
I know I'm going to get flammed for saying this, but aren't all the crude oils kind of fakes anyways. Does Banksy even paint them, or does he just art direct and put his name on it. He described them himself as "remixes" Kind of sums it up well for me , old classics bought up to date with a modern twist Yeah I totally love them, I was just unsure if he did the actual remixing or he art directed someone else. |
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Banksy Crude Oils - Video, by ptron on Nov 9, 2006 22:03:43 GMT 1,
That's great!! +1 for you.
That's great!! +1 for you. |
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Banksy Crude Oils - Video, by LoveRat on Nov 9, 2006 22:08:38 GMT 1, You may also like some of Ron English's reworkings
www.popaganda.com/
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Banksy Crude Oils - Video, by HowAboutNo on Nov 10, 2006 10:25:41 GMT 1,
His quote was more to do with that he couldnt paint quickly enough and kept getting caught, so he moved to stencils which he could slap up in a matter of seconds.
If you look at some of the stuff Kal posted on originals and canvases from years ago (i.e. not crude oils "amendments") you can see stuff that he has painted from scratch.
His quote was more to do with that he couldnt paint quickly enough and kept getting caught, so he moved to stencils which he could slap up in a matter of seconds.
If you look at some of the stuff Kal posted on originals and canvases from years ago (i.e. not crude oils "amendments") you can see stuff that he has painted from scratch.
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Banksy Crude Oils - Video, by Ågentßacardi on Nov 10, 2006 10:35:30 GMT 1, His quote was more to do with that he couldnt paint quickly enough and kept getting caught, so he moved to stencils which he could slap up in a matter of seconds. If you look at some of the stuff Kal posted on originals and canvases from years ago (i.e. not crude oils "amendments") you can see stuff that he has painted from scratch.
I remember Ghetto Supermarket in particular. It was goooood.
His quote was more to do with that he couldnt paint quickly enough and kept getting caught, so he moved to stencils which he could slap up in a matter of seconds. If you look at some of the stuff Kal posted on originals and canvases from years ago (i.e. not crude oils "amendments") you can see stuff that he has painted from scratch. I remember Ghetto Supermarket in particular. It was goooood. |
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Thanks ;D
But if your like me, and ya not rollin in money, so ya cant afford £30,000 on the real thing ;D Why not get a repro?
Its nice to see so many new people ;D 
Then I could watch Film4 all day ;D and keep an eye on this 
