sfield
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UV Protection Glass • Museum Glass, by sfield on Jan 19, 2010 14:44:21 GMT 1, Hi, I'm in discussions with my framer about the glass to use to frame my Parla WTL print. Because of it's size (over 1m square), my framer has suggested that the Tru vue Museum Glass should not be used as this is not thick enough and might crack when transported. He's also warned me against the acrylic version. This leaves me with either just UV protection - 3mm glass, or a anti-reflective Mirogard glass that has a blue-green tint (which I don't want!).
I'd be very grateful for any advise, not sure what to do!
Many thanks.
Hi, I'm in discussions with my framer about the glass to use to frame my Parla WTL print. Because of it's size (over 1m square), my framer has suggested that the Tru vue Museum Glass should not be used as this is not thick enough and might crack when transported. He's also warned me against the acrylic version. This leaves me with either just UV protection - 3mm glass, or a anti-reflective Mirogard glass that has a blue-green tint (which I don't want!).
I'd be very grateful for any advise, not sure what to do!
Many thanks.
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UV Protection Glass • Museum Glass, by Deleted on Jan 19, 2010 14:48:34 GMT 1, Use the museum and ignore his views. I have my judgement day in the same glass which is bigger in size. Just tell him to be careful when transporting. Or collect yourself.
Use the museum and ignore his views. I have my judgement day in the same glass which is bigger in size. Just tell him to be careful when transporting. Or collect yourself.
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gozgoz
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UV Protection Glass • Museum Glass, by gozgoz on Jan 19, 2010 14:50:52 GMT 1, email mrframeman and ask?
email mrframeman and ask?
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bozwick
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UV Protection Glass • Museum Glass, by bozwick on Jan 19, 2010 15:01:04 GMT 1, You could also consider Den glass, its low reflective offers some UV protection (though not as much as museum glass) and is cheaper. I've always been impressed by it.
You could also consider Den glass, its low reflective offers some UV protection (though not as much as museum glass) and is cheaper. I've always been impressed by it.
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sfield
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UV Protection Glass • Museum Glass, by sfield on Jan 19, 2010 17:07:15 GMT 1, Thanks for your comments. I hate making decisions!
Thanks for your comments. I hate making decisions!
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UV Protection Glass • Museum Glass, by theor1 on Mar 29, 2010 10:21:47 GMT 1, Hi, whats good for cleaning museum grade glass thanks.
Hi, whats good for cleaning museum grade glass thanks.
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curiousgeorge
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UV Protection Glass • Museum Glass, by curiousgeorge on Mar 29, 2010 12:25:16 GMT 1, Cleaning Place the glass on a clean, non-abrasive surface for cleaning. Use a clean, soft, lint-free cloth to clean the glass. Tru Vue recommends using a micro-fiber cloth. Spray a small amount of ammonia-free cleaner onto the cloth. Spraying on the cloth will prevent streaking and overspray. Press the cloth against the glass and clean in round, circular motions to reduce streaking or leaving spots.
www.thegrumble.com/showthread.php?t=28709
Cleaning Place the glass on a clean, non-abrasive surface for cleaning. Use a clean, soft, lint-free cloth to clean the glass. Tru Vue recommends using a micro-fiber cloth. Spray a small amount of ammonia-free cleaner onto the cloth. Spraying on the cloth will prevent streaking and overspray. Press the cloth against the glass and clean in round, circular motions to reduce streaking or leaving spots. www.thegrumble.com/showthread.php?t=28709
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etched
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UV Protection Glass • Museum Glass, by etched on Mar 29, 2010 13:36:11 GMT 1, ------ flat screen tv cleaner and micro-fibre cloth, both available in most electrical stores for a tenner. no smears etc.
------ flat screen tv cleaner and micro-fibre cloth, both available in most electrical stores for a tenner. no smears etc.
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UV Protection Glass • Museum Glass, by theor1 on Mar 29, 2010 20:25:11 GMT 1, Thanks very much curiousgeorge and etched for the tips.
Thanks very much curiousgeorge and etched for the tips.
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shinybrite
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UV Protection Glass • Museum Glass, by shinybrite on May 2, 2010 21:45:06 GMT 1, This one is trial & error.
I've found cloths & cleaners that were supposed to be for Museum glass, and they just left marks; I've finally found the simplest things to be the best.
Any old cotton things like T-Shirts etc, just cut off seems & logos etc, and a good quality silicone free spray, you may have to try a couple until you're happy.
Little tip, when you're pretty much done, with just the odd mark remaining, don't add more cleanser, but do the old heavy breath thing, and a quick wipe on a dry bit of cloth, should get those pesky final spots ;-)
Best - Jack
This one is trial & error.
I've found cloths & cleaners that were supposed to be for Museum glass, and they just left marks; I've finally found the simplest things to be the best.
Any old cotton things like T-Shirts etc, just cut off seems & logos etc, and a good quality silicone free spray, you may have to try a couple until you're happy.
Little tip, when you're pretty much done, with just the odd mark remaining, don't add more cleanser, but do the old heavy breath thing, and a quick wipe on a dry bit of cloth, should get those pesky final spots ;-)
Best - Jack
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shinybrite
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UV Protection Glass • Museum Glass, by shinybrite on May 2, 2010 21:58:44 GMT 1, Well as long as you use UV glass, and you're sure it really is UV glass, there's not a lot more you can do. Be sensible, don't put it in a conservatory and you should be fine.
UV glass isn't fool proof, people think it prevents 99% of UV damage, not quite so, it prevents 99% of the most damaging rays getting through to the image, which is a different thing. Make sure your framer uses the best materials around the image as well, as this will help prevent internal chemical reactions affecting the picture. I like the sound of Alphamat from Nielsen, although Museum board is the standard high grade option.
Best - Jack
Well as long as you use UV glass, and you're sure it really is UV glass, there's not a lot more you can do. Be sensible, don't put it in a conservatory and you should be fine.
UV glass isn't fool proof, people think it prevents 99% of UV damage, not quite so, it prevents 99% of the most damaging rays getting through to the image, which is a different thing. Make sure your framer uses the best materials around the image as well, as this will help prevent internal chemical reactions affecting the picture. I like the sound of Alphamat from Nielsen, although Museum board is the standard high grade option.
Best - Jack
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shinybrite
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UV Protection Glass • Museum Glass, by shinybrite on May 2, 2010 22:21:00 GMT 1, Some framers now refuse to use glass over certain sizes for the dreaded health & safety reasons, they just don't want the hassle.
To be honest if it's not that much bigger than 1m Tru Vues Museum should be fine, as their glasses UV film makes the glass slightly thicker, and therefore a little stronger. Make sure it's Tru Vue though and not another brand.
You say AR Mirror Guard has a tint, it doesn't, this is an optical effect as the glass now reflects light in a different way due to how it's been treated. As it's not reflecting white light back at you all you can see is what remains, sometimes a blue or green light, this is the same for Tru Vues Museum, so maybe this is an option for you.
If you have to go with plastic, go for Art Shield UV, no AR effect, but it's still very good.
Best - Jack
Some framers now refuse to use glass over certain sizes for the dreaded health & safety reasons, they just don't want the hassle.
To be honest if it's not that much bigger than 1m Tru Vues Museum should be fine, as their glasses UV film makes the glass slightly thicker, and therefore a little stronger. Make sure it's Tru Vue though and not another brand.
You say AR Mirror Guard has a tint, it doesn't, this is an optical effect as the glass now reflects light in a different way due to how it's been treated. As it's not reflecting white light back at you all you can see is what remains, sometimes a blue or green light, this is the same for Tru Vues Museum, so maybe this is an option for you.
If you have to go with plastic, go for Art Shield UV, no AR effect, but it's still very good.
Best - Jack
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jackson86
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UV Protection Glass • Museum Glass, by jackson86 on Jul 23, 2010 14:58:44 GMT 1, Museum-quality glass protects art from damage such as fading or brittleness caused by ultra-violet (UV) rays. It also reduces glare when a work is viewed from different angles, minimizing the mirror-like effect of typical glass and improving the intensity of colors and details.
Museum-quality glass protects art from damage such as fading or brittleness caused by ultra-violet (UV) rays. It also reduces glare when a work is viewed from different angles, minimizing the mirror-like effect of typical glass and improving the intensity of colors and details.
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bitpunk
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UV Protection Glass • Museum Glass, by bitpunk on Mar 26, 2011 16:16:08 GMT 1, Took a trip to a framers today to discuss framing options for Banksy's No Ball Games and Eelus' Not Everything ... it was a good experience, really helpful etc, but I left the place with a dilemma over the choice of glass to use.
I decided on the museum glass for the Banksy as I thought the price is worth it for the value of the print, but for the Eelus, after much umming and aahing, I finally decided on the standard glass. He said it would be absolutely fine as it long as it wasn't in direct sunlight yada yada ...
He said that if I was really concerned about UV protection (and I'm not sure whether I should be or not tbh), that I should go for the acrylic option - which costs a little more that the regular glass but a lot less than museum glass - so he suggested I have a think about it and call him with my decision.
I'm just overwhelmed with data now and I don't know whether I've made the right choice on either. Any thoughts??
Took a trip to a framers today to discuss framing options for Banksy's No Ball Games and Eelus' Not Everything ... it was a good experience, really helpful etc, but I left the place with a dilemma over the choice of glass to use.
I decided on the museum glass for the Banksy as I thought the price is worth it for the value of the print, but for the Eelus, after much umming and aahing, I finally decided on the standard glass. He said it would be absolutely fine as it long as it wasn't in direct sunlight yada yada ...
He said that if I was really concerned about UV protection (and I'm not sure whether I should be or not tbh), that I should go for the acrylic option - which costs a little more that the regular glass but a lot less than museum glass - so he suggested I have a think about it and call him with my decision.
I'm just overwhelmed with data now and I don't know whether I've made the right choice on either. Any thoughts??
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murdock
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UV Protection Glass • Museum Glass, by murdock on Mar 28, 2011 9:33:33 GMT 1, I've come to leran that everything is better than regular glass. Then again, is is hanging beside the window, and has pretty much no chance of reflective light, you can save the money. Still, when you do spend it, you WILL see the difference.
Good luck with it and make sure to post pictures
I've come to leran that everything is better than regular glass. Then again, is is hanging beside the window, and has pretty much no chance of reflective light, you can save the money. Still, when you do spend it, you WILL see the difference. Good luck with it and make sure to post pictures
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UV Protection Glass • Museum Glass, by murdock on Mar 28, 2011 9:35:20 GMT 1,
That thread seems to have been moved... Does anyone has some more info about the cleaning issue?
That thread seems to have been moved... Does anyone has some more info about the cleaning issue?
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misterx
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UV Protection Glass • Museum Glass, by misterx on Mar 28, 2011 10:04:12 GMT 1, Took a trip to a framers today to discuss framing options for Banksy's No Ball Games and Eelus' Not Everything ... it was a good experience, really helpful etc, but I left the place with a dilemma over the choice of glass to use. I decided on the museum glass for the Banksy as I thought the price is worth it for the value of the print, but for the Eelus, after much umming and aahing, I finally decided on the standard glass. He said it would be absolutely fine as it long as it wasn't in direct sunlight yada yada ... He said that if I was really concerned about UV protection (and I'm not sure whether I should be or not tbh), that I should go for the acrylic option - which costs a little more that the regular glass but a lot less than museum glass - so he suggested I have a think about it and call him with my decision. I'm just overwhelmed with data now and I don't know whether I've made the right choice on either. Any thoughts??
I got my Eelus NEISB&W back from my framers last week.
As with all my prints, I save up till I have enough for the Museum Glass. From my experience theres no comparison...honestly, if you love your Eelus as much as I do, you should go with the MG..
None of my prints are worth big bucks, but to me thats not the point....its the appeal of the image that attracts me to a print, so why would you frame your stunners with a glass that detracts from the clarity...the UV protection(I'm in OZ) is the highest in the world, but thats secondary to the enhancement of the image the MG gives....
Took a trip to a framers today to discuss framing options for Banksy's No Ball Games and Eelus' Not Everything ... it was a good experience, really helpful etc, but I left the place with a dilemma over the choice of glass to use. I decided on the museum glass for the Banksy as I thought the price is worth it for the value of the print, but for the Eelus, after much umming and aahing, I finally decided on the standard glass. He said it would be absolutely fine as it long as it wasn't in direct sunlight yada yada ... He said that if I was really concerned about UV protection (and I'm not sure whether I should be or not tbh), that I should go for the acrylic option - which costs a little more that the regular glass but a lot less than museum glass - so he suggested I have a think about it and call him with my decision. I'm just overwhelmed with data now and I don't know whether I've made the right choice on either. Any thoughts?? I got my Eelus NEISB&W back from my framers last week. As with all my prints, I save up till I have enough for the Museum Glass. From my experience theres no comparison...honestly, if you love your Eelus as much as I do, you should go with the MG.. None of my prints are worth big bucks, but to me thats not the point....its the appeal of the image that attracts me to a print, so why would you frame your stunners with a glass that detracts from the clarity...the UV protection(I'm in OZ) is the highest in the world, but thats secondary to the enhancement of the image the MG gives....
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buck
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UV Protection Glass • Museum Glass, by buck on Apr 1, 2011 3:41:13 GMT 1, If you can get the stuff for decent price. Frame shops gouge pretty hard.
If you can get the stuff for decent price. Frame shops gouge pretty hard.
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Baby Dave
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UV Protection Glass • Museum Glass, by Baby Dave on Apr 1, 2011 7:58:46 GMT 1, Apologies for my ignorance but is museum glass the same as anti uv anti reflection glass? I've got a few things being glazed with anti uv anti reflection. Is museum glass different at all? Better?
Apologies for my ignorance but is museum glass the same as anti uv anti reflection glass? I've got a few things being glazed with anti uv anti reflection. Is museum glass different at all? Better?
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murdock
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UV Protection Glass • Museum Glass, by murdock on Apr 1, 2011 8:37:09 GMT 1, I can't give you a scientifical explanation, but it's different. I recently bought anit-reflection glass from a glazier's shop (he called it "Re-Flo"), and he specifically said, it's different. You can also see it.
But it was way cheaper
I can't give you a scientifical explanation, but it's different. I recently bought anit-reflection glass from a glazier's shop (he called it "Re-Flo"), and he specifically said, it's different. You can also see it. But it was way cheaper
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UV Protection Glass • Museum Glass, by jackcuzzy on Apr 1, 2011 9:29:48 GMT 1, I have a few prints framed by MFM, does he use UV protective glass as standard? Just wondering if my prints are still in danger of those harmful bastids!
I have a few prints framed by MFM, does he use UV protective glass as standard? Just wondering if my prints are still in danger of those harmful bastids!
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stenev
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UV Protection Glass • Museum Glass, by stenev on Apr 1, 2011 9:34:54 GMT 1, I have a few prints framed by MFM, does he use UV protective glass as standard? Just wondering if my prints are still in danger of those harmful bastids!
Not as standard as I've had both UV and regular from him. It will be detailed on your quote/invoice or just give him a shout if you don't still have the details.
I have a few prints framed by MFM, does he use UV protective glass as standard? Just wondering if my prints are still in danger of those harmful bastids! Not as standard as I've had both UV and regular from him. It will be detailed on your quote/invoice or just give him a shout if you don't still have the details.
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ivantankl
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UV Protection Glass • Museum Glass, by ivantankl on Nov 12, 2011 17:50:35 GMT 1, Just bought a framed piece.
Any way to tell if it has UV glass?
Just bought a framed piece.
Any way to tell if it has UV glass?
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UV Protection Glass • Museum Glass, by Deleted on Nov 12, 2011 18:06:15 GMT 1, As far as I understand if you look at it from close up at an angle you can see what appears to be little ripples in the glass. But it does show a reflection whereas Museum glass does not. Not the best description I know but if you try it you should see what I mean.cnh
As far as I understand if you look at it from close up at an angle you can see what appears to be little ripples in the glass. But it does show a reflection whereas Museum glass does not. Not the best description I know but if you try it you should see what I mean.cnh
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fotbh
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UV Protection Glass • Museum Glass, by fotbh on Nov 13, 2011 14:37:15 GMT 1, Those both look quality. Really like the Eelus I wish I could afford it. How did you find the difference between the museum glass and the standard glass?
Those both look quality. Really like the Eelus I wish I could afford it. How did you find the difference between the museum glass and the standard glass?
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UV Protection Glass • Museum Glass, by Deux Spin on Nov 25, 2011 22:38:12 GMT 1, I've only given two of my prints the pleasure of Museum quality glass, but if I had no financial limitations I'd use it every time. IMO it's in a different class... of glass
Museum all the way! Just got mine back from Mr Frameman. Couldn't agree more, really glad I got my BAST OG in Museum
I've only given two of my prints the pleasure of Museum quality glass, but if I had no financial limitations I'd use it every time. IMO it's in a different class... of glass Museum all the way! Just got mine back from Mr Frameman. Couldn't agree more, really glad I got my BAST OG in Museum
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bitpunk
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UV Protection Glass • Museum Glass, by bitpunk on Dec 7, 2011 20:24:36 GMT 1, Those both look quality. Really like the Eelus I wish I could afford it. How did you find the difference between the museum glass and the standard glass?
Side by side, the difference is immediate. As you move around you notice the reflection on the standard, or more importantly you notice that the museum glass has none ... I found myself moving around, ducking etc to try and find a hint of reflection from lights, lamps, windows etc., but there is none with the Banksy NGB.
However, and this is a big point, I have managed to hang the Eelus with standard glass on a wall that, from most viewing positions within the room, has no sources of reflection. So position is definitely key.
Those both look quality. Really like the Eelus I wish I could afford it. How did you find the difference between the museum glass and the standard glass? Side by side, the difference is immediate. As you move around you notice the reflection on the standard, or more importantly you notice that the museum glass has none ... I found myself moving around, ducking etc to try and find a hint of reflection from lights, lamps, windows etc., but there is none with the Banksy NGB. However, and this is a big point, I have managed to hang the Eelus with standard glass on a wall that, from most viewing positions within the room, has no sources of reflection. So position is definitely key.
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Andy'77
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UV Protection Glass • Museum Glass, by Andy'77 on Apr 17, 2012 10:13:44 GMT 1, I've three unsigned Banksy prints that have all been framed identically with conservation window mounts and UV glass. They been framed for around 3 or 4 years and have never been on a wall that receives sunlight. As I'm selling two of the prints, I removed one last night to find that the paper had faded ever so slightly such that there is a very faint border where the mount covered the paper. It's barely noticeable but there all the same. The prints are 2 rats and a CND so are on the yellowy recycled paper, but I was surprised this has happened, should I have expected this? I checked the CND and the same thing has happened. I'm planning on keeping the 2nd rat so will now get that float mounted. Everything else I have is float mounted so it's only these three prints that are an issue. I've seen a number of these prints elsewhere with window mounts, has anyone else seen this occur?
I've three unsigned Banksy prints that have all been framed identically with conservation window mounts and UV glass. They been framed for around 3 or 4 years and have never been on a wall that receives sunlight. As I'm selling two of the prints, I removed one last night to find that the paper had faded ever so slightly such that there is a very faint border where the mount covered the paper. It's barely noticeable but there all the same. The prints are 2 rats and a CND so are on the yellowy recycled paper, but I was surprised this has happened, should I have expected this? I checked the CND and the same thing has happened. I'm planning on keeping the 2nd rat so will now get that float mounted. Everything else I have is float mounted so it's only these three prints that are an issue. I've seen a number of these prints elsewhere with window mounts, has anyone else seen this occur?
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