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Pysgod
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What's the best tape to use in framing?, by Pysgod on Mar 29, 2017 22:25:42 GMT 1,
Rizza papers work well
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What's the best tape to use in framing?, by SturbanHasSaggyTits on Mar 29, 2017 22:47:29 GMT 1,
It's acid free so won't harm your prints, but as you say it's hard to remove as it's got a glossy surface. If it's for an expensive print use the gummed tapes as they are easy to remove with water, or better still Japanese hinging tape and wheat paste. Not sure if the masking tape was a joke, but I wouldn't recommend.
www.lineco.com/cart.php?m=product_list&c=2085&parentId=1257&navTree%5B%5D=1257&navTree%5B%5D=2085
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jgg
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What's the best tape to use in framing?, by jgg on Mar 30, 2017 6:36:27 GMT 1, Never heard of Rizza paper... do you have a link so that I can check it out?
Thanks all
Never heard of Rizza paper... do you have a link so that I can check it out?
Thanks all
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iamzero
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What's the best tape to use in framing?, by iamzero on Mar 30, 2017 6:53:50 GMT 1, The next step down from Japanese Mulberry and wheat paste is Gummed Hayaku and de ironised water. Ph7-70 can be removed successfully with zest-it but it is time consuming. Masking tape is a big no.
The next step down from Japanese Mulberry and wheat paste is Gummed Hayaku and de ironised water. Ph7-70 can be removed successfully with zest-it but it is time consuming. Masking tape is a big no.
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Black Apple Art
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What's the best tape to use in framing?, by Black Apple Art on Mar 30, 2017 7:22:45 GMT 1, Lineco makes great products and actually have a newer archical pressure sensitive tape that I actually endorse. Several top places have been using it recently with a heptane formula for removal.
www.lineco.com/
Lineco makes great products and actually have a newer archical pressure sensitive tape that I actually endorse. Several top places have been using it recently with a heptane formula for removal. www.lineco.com/
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What's the best tape to use in framing?, by yobaby on Mar 30, 2017 8:03:24 GMT 1, Lineco makes great products and actually have a newer archical pressure sensitive tape that I actually endorse. Several top places have been using it recently with aย heptane formula for removal.ย www.lineco.com/
Which tape specifically? I've spoken to a local framer who's been framing for over 20 years and pasty of the fine art guild who says he uses double sided tape, saying everything he does is completely reversible and non destructive. This thread is a mixture of people saying to never use tape while others say it's not a problem..?
Lineco makes great products and actually have a newer archical pressure sensitive tape that I actually endorse. Several top places have been using it recently with aย heptane formula for removal.ย www.lineco.com/Which tape specifically? I've spoken to a local framer who's been framing for over 20 years and pasty of the fine art guild who says he uses double sided tape, saying everything he does is completely reversible and non destructive. This thread is a mixture of people saying to never use tape while others say it's not a problem..?
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jgg
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What's the best tape to use in framing?, by jgg on Mar 30, 2017 9:18:31 GMT 1, Thanks everyone. @ yobaby Most of the framers I know / I've spoken to also use standard double sided tape and that's why I upped this thread just to clear that up. However, I think it'll be best to follow the advice from the guys who have dealt with it in the past and avoid damage.
On utube there's also this nice Vid which shows you a nice way to float mount a print .
Thanks everyone. @ yobaby Most of the framers I know / I've spoken to also use standard double sided tape and that's why I upped this thread just to clear that up. However, I think it'll be best to follow the advice from the guys who have dealt with it in the past and avoid damage. On utube there's also this nice Vid which shows you a nice way to float mount a print .
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What's the best tape to use in framing?, by chr1s on Dec 12, 2017 17:20:20 GMT 1, Lineco makes great products and actually have a newer archical pressure sensitive tape that I actually endorse. Several top places have been using it recently with a heptane formula for removal. www.lineco.com/Which tape specifically? I've spoken to a local framer who's been framing for over 20 years and pasty of the fine art guild who says he uses double sided tape, saying everything he does is completely reversible and non destructive. This thread is a mixture of people saying to never use tape while others say it's not a problem..? If he's been using double sided tape for 20 years he very well could have been doing it wrong for 20 years. I'd ask him what sort of double-sided tape he is using and what does he mean by reversible? Can he remove the tape and the adhesive without leaving any adhesive residue behind and without damaging the paper?
Lineco makes great products and actually have a newer archical pressure sensitive tape that I actually endorse. Several top places have been using it recently with a heptane formula for removal. www.lineco.com/Which tape specifically? I've spoken to a local framer who's been framing for over 20 years and pasty of the fine art guild who says he uses double sided tape, saying everything he does is completely reversible and non destructive. This thread is a mixture of people saying to never use tape while others say it's not a problem..? If he's been using double sided tape for 20 years he very well could have been doing it wrong for 20 years. I'd ask him what sort of double-sided tape he is using and what does he mean by reversible? Can he remove the tape and the adhesive without leaving any adhesive residue behind and without damaging the paper?
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beatztom
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What's the best tape to use in framing?, by beatztom on Dec 12, 2017 23:13:01 GMT 1, Which tape specifically? I've spoken to a local framer who's been framing for over 20 years and pasty of the fine art guild who says he uses double sided tape, saying everything he does is completely reversible and non destructive. This thread is a mixture of people saying to never use tape while others say it's not a problem..? If he's been using double sided tape for 20 years he very well could have been doing it wrong for 20 years. I'd ask him what sort of double-sided tape he is using and what does he mean by reversible? Can he remove the tape and the adhesive without leaving any adhesive residue behind and without damaging the paper?
Unfortunately the reality of the current situation is that a lot of โqualifiedโ framers are not quite up to conservation standards. Having had the good fortune to meet a qualified well referenced conservationist, I would be very wary of who I confide my artworks to for proper framing. Double sided tapes do not fit the bill as far as my framing knowledge goes.
Which tape specifically? I've spoken to a local framer who's been framing for over 20 years and pasty of the fine art guild who says he uses double sided tape, saying everything he does is completely reversible and non destructive. This thread is a mixture of people saying to never use tape while others say it's not a problem..? If he's been using double sided tape for 20 years he very well could have been doing it wrong for 20 years. I'd ask him what sort of double-sided tape he is using and what does he mean by reversible? Can he remove the tape and the adhesive without leaving any adhesive residue behind and without damaging the paper? Unfortunately the reality of the current situation is that a lot of โqualifiedโ framers are not quite up to conservation standards. Having had the good fortune to meet a qualified well referenced conservationist, I would be very wary of who I confide my artworks to for proper framing. Double sided tapes do not fit the bill as far as my framing knowledge goes.
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What's the best tape to use in framing?, by rockbeer on Dec 12, 2017 23:25:10 GMT 1, From the Fine Art Trade Guild website:
"Fine Art Trade Guild framing standards continue to state that no self-adhesive tape is permissible for attaching artwork in conservation framing and that this should apply to the framing of limited edition prints of moderate to high value. The Guild would like to thank manufacturers and trade suppliers who have cooperated with the positioning of these tapes in their marketing and labeling, to clarify their position within Guild standards."
The guild publishes and maintains the standards for the framing industry.
Source: www.fineart.co.uk/standards/Tapes_Adhesives.aspx
From the Fine Art Trade Guild website: "Fine Art Trade Guild framing standards continue to state that no self-adhesive tape is permissible for attaching artwork in conservation framing and that this should apply to the framing of limited edition prints of moderate to high value. The Guild would like to thank manufacturers and trade suppliers who have cooperated with the positioning of these tapes in their marketing and labeling, to clarify their position within Guild standards." The guild publishes and maintains the standards for the framing industry. Source: www.fineart.co.uk/standards/Tapes_Adhesives.aspx
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What's the best tape to use in framing?, by Deleted on Dec 12, 2017 23:33:35 GMT 1, I have just ordered 3 frames from framefrog.co.uk for my Lichtenstein Abstract cows I got on a recommendation from here, Thanks
They came in at ยฃ270 for the 3 and they are pretty big at around 100cm x 75cm so ยฃ90 each inc a double mount and i should get them this side of Christmas
I cancelled the tape as it looked a bit like parcel tape, so can i pick some tape up from amazon or similar that will be easy to remove?
i usually get my stuff framed up, but they didnt get back to me, and i have finished renovating another room, and need to fill the walls quick sharp
I have just ordered 3 frames from framefrog.co.uk for my Lichtenstein Abstract cows I got on a recommendation from here, Thanks They came in at ยฃ270 for the 3 and they are pretty big at around 100cm x 75cm so ยฃ90 each inc a double mount and i should get them this side of Christmas I cancelled the tape as it looked a bit like parcel tape, so can i pick some tape up from amazon or similar that will be easy to remove? i usually get my stuff framed up, but they didnt get back to me, and i have finished renovating another room, and need to fill the walls quick sharp
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What's the best tape to use in framing?, by rockbeer on Dec 13, 2017 0:12:08 GMT 1, There's no conservation tape that's trivial to remove, in that none will simply peel off without the risk of tearing or leaving residue behind, but some are easier than others. All require the appropriate solvent for the adhesive - looked at from that point of view, water-based adhesives are 'easier' since water is more readily available than specialised materials. But the removal will always require great care. Best to practice on scrap stock first, before trying it on real art.
There's no conservation tape that's trivial to remove, in that none will simply peel off without the risk of tearing or leaving residue behind, but some are easier than others. All require the appropriate solvent for the adhesive - looked at from that point of view, water-based adhesives are 'easier' since water is more readily available than specialised materials. But the removal will always require great care. Best to practice on scrap stock first, before trying it on real art.
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What's the best tape to use in framing?, by Deleted on Dec 13, 2017 0:19:32 GMT 1, There's no conservation tape that's trivial to remove, in that none will simply peel off without the risk of tearing or leaving residue behind, but some are easier than others. All require the appropriate solvent for the adhesive - looked at from that point of view, water-based adhesives are 'easier' since water is more readily available than specialised materials. But the removal will always require great care. Best to practice on scrap stock first, before trying it on real art.
What one shall i buy?
Link me dude :-)
Please xx
There's no conservation tape that's trivial to remove, in that none will simply peel off without the risk of tearing or leaving residue behind, but some are easier than others. All require the appropriate solvent for the adhesive - looked at from that point of view, water-based adhesives are 'easier' since water is more readily available than specialised materials. But the removal will always require great care. Best to practice on scrap stock first, before trying it on real art. What one shall i buy? Link me dude :-) Please xx
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What's the best tape to use in framing?, by Pysgod on Dec 13, 2017 0:24:21 GMT 1, I have just ordered 3 frames from framefrog.co.uk for my Lichtenstein Abstract cows I got on a recommendation from here, Thanks They came in at ยฃ270 for the 3 and they are pretty big at around 100cm x 75cm so ยฃ90 each inc a double mount and i should get them this side of Christmas I cancelled the tape as it looked a bit like parcel tape, so can i pick some tape up from amazon or similar that will be easy to remove? i usually get my stuff framed up, but they didnt get back to me, and i have finished renovating another room, and need to fill the walls quick sharp That tape is for sealing gaps at the back of the frame to prevent dust/insects from getting in.
I have just ordered 3 frames from framefrog.co.uk for my Lichtenstein Abstract cows I got on a recommendation from here, Thanks They came in at ยฃ270 for the 3 and they are pretty big at around 100cm x 75cm so ยฃ90 each inc a double mount and i should get them this side of Christmas I cancelled the tape as it looked a bit like parcel tape, so can i pick some tape up from amazon or similar that will be easy to remove? i usually get my stuff framed up, but they didnt get back to me, and i have finished renovating another room, and need to fill the walls quick sharp That tape is for sealing gaps at the back of the frame to prevent dust/insects from getting in.
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What's the best tape to use in framing?, by JL Broooks on Dec 13, 2017 0:24:45 GMT 1, I've just had the same discussion with a paper conservatorist from the national museum in Norway - her very clear message was: never use self-adhesive tape on any artwork of a certain value. Self-adhesive tape will over time 'eat' into the paper and ultimately become visible also on the front of the paper.
Only tape that should be used is 'water-adhesive' tape / hinges. If your framer doesn't know what that is - go somewhere else. If your framer tries to convince you 'water adhesive tape is a waste of time'; go somewhere else - it means he doesn't know what it is.
I've just had the same discussion with a paper conservatorist from the national museum in Norway - her very clear message was: never use self-adhesive tape on any artwork of a certain value. Self-adhesive tape will over time 'eat' into the paper and ultimately become visible also on the front of the paper.
Only tape that should be used is 'water-adhesive' tape / hinges. If your framer doesn't know what that is - go somewhere else. If your framer tries to convince you 'water adhesive tape is a waste of time'; go somewhere else - it means he doesn't know what it is.
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What's the best tape to use in framing?, by rockbeer on Dec 13, 2017 1:08:03 GMT 1, What one shall i buy? Link me dude :-) Please xx
Oh if only it were that easy!
You'll hate me for saying this, but if you're going to frame your own I'd suggest you do some reading up and learn about the various approaches, then you can make your own informed decision based on the art in question, your expectations for it and your aptitude for the techniques involved. It's complicated.
But if you really want to just go for it - and I offer this without knowing whether its suitable for your purposes - you could try something like this:
www.ukpictureframingsupplies.co.uk/gummed-acid-free-conservation-archival-mounting-and-hinging-tape-24mm-wide-sold-per-metre-165-p.asp
That site has lots of tapes - have a look and see if they have somethhing you prefer the look of. The PH7-70 self-adhesive is easier to assemble (harder to remove), and will be okay for low to low-moderate value art -which is not to say I disagree with what others have said about self-adhesive tapes, but PH7-70 is conservation-rated and I wouldn't be scared to use it.
Whatever you use, go careful - don't use too much tape or water, you shouldn't need more than a couple of strips of tape and you only need to attach about 5mm to the back (always and only the back) of the artwork - and I'll say it again, practice first on something that doesn't matter!
There's some decent information here:
www.thesouthgatestudio.com/harlequin/myths-hinging.pdf
What one shall i buy? Link me dude :-) Please xx Oh if only it were that easy! You'll hate me for saying this, but if you're going to frame your own I'd suggest you do some reading up and learn about the various approaches, then you can make your own informed decision based on the art in question, your expectations for it and your aptitude for the techniques involved. It's complicated. But if you really want to just go for it - and I offer this without knowing whether its suitable for your purposes - you could try something like this:
www.ukpictureframingsupplies.co.uk/gummed-acid-free-conservation-archival-mounting-and-hinging-tape-24mm-wide-sold-per-metre-165-p.aspThat site has lots of tapes - have a look and see if they have somethhing you prefer the look of. The PH7-70 self-adhesive is easier to assemble (harder to remove), and will be okay for low to low-moderate value art -which is not to say I disagree with what others have said about self-adhesive tapes, but PH7-70 is conservation-rated and I wouldn't be scared to use it. Whatever you use, go careful - don't use too much tape or water, you shouldn't need more than a couple of strips of tape and you only need to attach about 5mm to the back (always and only the back) of the artwork - and I'll say it again, practice first on something that doesn't matter! There's some decent information here: www.thesouthgatestudio.com/harlequin/myths-hinging.pdf
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What's the best tape to use in framing?, by jay4077 on Dec 13, 2017 12:26:29 GMT 1, sorry I'm a little confused. I want to frame some of my "cheap" prints myself as they will fit standard frames. I want to float mount them. Should I use double sided ph7-70 tape or should I use T-hinges with one-sided ph7-70 tape?
I also have some Banksy's I need to have framed. I would also like to have them in a box frame floating. What kind of tape/hinges should I insist my framer should use?
sorry I'm a little confused. I want to frame some of my "cheap" prints myself as they will fit standard frames. I want to float mount them. Should I use double sided ph7-70 tape or should I use T-hinges with one-sided ph7-70 tape?
I also have some Banksy's I need to have framed. I would also like to have them in a box frame floating. What kind of tape/hinges should I insist my framer should use?
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What's the best tape to use in framing?, by chr1s on Dec 13, 2017 15:12:15 GMT 1, sorry I'm a little confused. I want to frame some of my "cheap" prints myself as they will fit standard frames. I want to float mount them. Should I use double sided ph7-70 tape or should I use T-hinges with one-sided ph7-70 tape? I also have some Banksy's I need to have framed. I would also like to have them in a box frame floating. What kind of tape/hinges should I insist my framer should use? For the Banksy prints you definitely want to use Japanese Mulberry paper and wheat paste as the adhesive. At the bottom of page 3 of this thread I posted a couple videos I made. In one video I am using wheat paste and Japanese mulberry paper to do a standard pendant. In the second video I demonstrate how quick and easy it is to reverse the process and how removing a wheat paste hinge leaves absolutely no mark or residual paste on the back of the print.
And if you want to see a method of floating prints with Japanese Mulberry paper and wheat paste check out the link below. I documented the process on expressobeans about 5 years ago.
**Well I can't seem to get the link to work, but google "expressobeans floating a print"
sorry I'm a little confused. I want to frame some of my "cheap" prints myself as they will fit standard frames. I want to float mount them. Should I use double sided ph7-70 tape or should I use T-hinges with one-sided ph7-70 tape? I also have some Banksy's I need to have framed. I would also like to have them in a box frame floating. What kind of tape/hinges should I insist my framer should use? For the Banksy prints you definitely want to use Japanese Mulberry paper and wheat paste as the adhesive. At the bottom of page 3 of this thread I posted a couple videos I made. In one video I am using wheat paste and Japanese mulberry paper to do a standard pendant. In the second video I demonstrate how quick and easy it is to reverse the process and how removing a wheat paste hinge leaves absolutely no mark or residual paste on the back of the print. And if you want to see a method of floating prints with Japanese Mulberry paper and wheat paste check out the link below. I documented the process on expressobeans about 5 years ago. **Well I can't seem to get the link to work, but google "expressobeans floating a print"
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What's the best tape to use in framing?, by Deleted on Dec 13, 2017 15:24:49 GMT 1, sorry I'm a little confused. I want to frame some of my "cheap" prints myself as they will fit standard frames. I want to float mount them. Should I use double sided ph7-70 tape or should I use T-hinges with one-sided ph7-70 tape? I also have some Banksy's I need to have framed. I would also like to have them in a box frame floating. What kind of tape/hinges should I insist my framer should use? For the Banksy prints you definitely want to use Japanese Mulberry paper and wheat paste as the adhesive. At the bottom of page 3 of this thread I posted a couple videos I made. In one video I am using wheat paste and Japanese mulberry paper to do a standard pendant. In the second video I demonstrate how quick and easy it is to reverse the process and how removing a wheat paste hinge leaves absolutely no mark or residual paste on the back of the print. And if you want to see a method of floating prints with Japanese Mulberry paper and wheat paste check out the link below. I documented the process on expressobeans about 5 years ago. . Expressobeans/viewtopic.php?f=31&t=62429&hilit=floating+a+print Just wanted to say thank you for the videos! How helpful, I've also been framing some of my prints on my own and this give me more confidence to try some more techniques. For the most part Ive been floating with Archival mounting strips, but you can still see the clear plastic holding the print in place. Time to step it up to mulberry paper, though I've managed to go adhesive free so far.
sorry I'm a little confused. I want to frame some of my "cheap" prints myself as they will fit standard frames. I want to float mount them. Should I use double sided ph7-70 tape or should I use T-hinges with one-sided ph7-70 tape? I also have some Banksy's I need to have framed. I would also like to have them in a box frame floating. What kind of tape/hinges should I insist my framer should use? For the Banksy prints you definitely want to use Japanese Mulberry paper and wheat paste as the adhesive. At the bottom of page 3 of this thread I posted a couple videos I made. In one video I am using wheat paste and Japanese mulberry paper to do a standard pendant. In the second video I demonstrate how quick and easy it is to reverse the process and how removing a wheat paste hinge leaves absolutely no mark or residual paste on the back of the print. And if you want to see a method of floating prints with Japanese Mulberry paper and wheat paste check out the link below. I documented the process on expressobeans about 5 years ago. . Expressobeans/viewtopic.php?f=31&t=62429&hilit=floating+a+print Just wanted to say thank you for the videos! How helpful, I've also been framing some of my prints on my own and this give me more confidence to try some more techniques. For the most part Ive been floating with Archival mounting strips, but you can still see the clear plastic holding the print in place. Time to step it up to mulberry paper, though I've managed to go adhesive free so far.
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What's the best tape to use in framing?, by Bumble on Dec 14, 2017 21:45:17 GMT 1, Ive heard the same
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What's the best tape to use in framing?, by probored on Dec 14, 2017 21:48:10 GMT 1,
Well arenโt you a chatterbox tonight!
Well arenโt you a chatterbox tonight!
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What's the best tape to use in framing?, by crashwilliams on Apr 5, 2019 12:07:22 GMT 1, A little bump, has anyone here thoughts on this P90 PLUS Filmoplast - im in two minds, this or the plastic corner mounts - print is to float mounted...
A little bump, has anyone here thoughts on this P90 PLUS Filmoplast - im in two minds, this or the plastic corner mounts - print is to float mounted...
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What's the best tape to use in framing?, by Sundowner on Apr 5, 2019 13:33:47 GMT 1, Sound advice from a man who knows. ๐๐ป
Sound advice from a man who knows. ๐๐ป
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What's the best tape to use in framing?, by crashwilliams on Apr 5, 2019 13:36:02 GMT 1, Thanks biggie
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What's the best tape to use in framing?, by rinz on May 24, 2020 9:56:52 GMT 1, Does anybody have experience with this tape: Cotton Rag Archival Gummed Mounting and Hinging Tape 25mm
www.ukindustrialtapes.co.uk/product/cotton-rag-archival-gum-paper-tape-2/.
My framer want to use it, just want to make sure, that it is good and easy enough to remove again.
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What's the best tape to use in framing?, by iamzero on May 24, 2020 22:26:29 GMT 1, Itโs a good tape dude. I started to use it about six months ago.
Itโs a good tape dude. I started to use it about six months ago.
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What's the best tape to use in framing?, by rinz on May 24, 2020 22:29:20 GMT 1, The framer have a 3 month waiting time Another framer uses P90 tape, is that also fine? Or is this one a lot better
The framer have a 3 month waiting time Another framer uses P90 tape, is that also fine? Or is this one a lot better
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What's the best tape to use in framing?, by troika49 on May 25, 2020 0:10:14 GMT 1, I see a lot of people give suggestions here.
The best advice on this whole topic was a research paper a team of conservators wrote after aging tapes for several years: urbanartassociation.com/thread/162357/which-hinging-tapes-tissues-use
Every single criteria is rated from removability to impact on media.
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