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Banksy Links, by punkdaisy on Jun 4, 2006 12:21:00 GMT 1, cart before the horse and all that.. he produced one, plus 6 colourways... in effect one piece of work, probably as both a negative commentary on the commercialisation of art and an ironic/iconic take on Warhols Marilyn..one artist, one great pice of work.[/quote]
Actually there were 50 and then 6 colourways but of course there was one original from which the prints were made. Banksy produced this one piece, from which commercial prints could be made and sold. We didn't first see this piece on a shoreditch wall as a negative commentary on the commercialisation of art and an ironic/iconic take on Warhols Marilyn.., we saw it in a gallery with a price tag on it. Which of course is exactly why it was produced.
cart before the horse and all that.. he produced one, plus 6 colourways... in effect one piece of work, probably as both a negative commentary on the commercialisation of art and an ironic/iconic take on Warhols Marilyn..one artist, one great pice of work.[/quote]
Actually there were 50 and then 6 colourways but of course there was one original from which the prints were made. Banksy produced this one piece, from which commercial prints could be made and sold. We didn't first see this piece on a shoreditch wall as a negative commentary on the commercialisation of art and an ironic/iconic take on Warhols Marilyn.., we saw it in a gallery with a price tag on it. Which of course is exactly why it was produced.
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Banksy Links, by numusic on Jun 4, 2006 12:47:32 GMT 1, cart before the horse and all that.. he produced one, plus 6 colourways... in effect one piece of work, probably as both a negative commentary on the commercialisation of art and an ironic/iconic take on Warhols Marilyn..one artist, one great pice of work. Actually there were 50 and then 6 colourways but of course there was one original from which the prints were made. Banksy produced this one piece, from which commercial prints could be made and sold. We didn't first see this piece on a shoreditch wall as a negative commentary on the commercialisation of art and an ironic/iconic take on Warhols Marilyn.., we saw it in a gallery with a price tag on it. Which of course is exactly why it was produced. [/quote]Gallery owners and agents have been sniffing around banksy for years to try an coherse him into making them some cash.. he now has the means to produce what and when and where he likes... in spite of, not because of agents and commercial gallery owners he made Laz and Tom Tom..and I'm sure he doesn't give a flying toss about anything other than bringing his work and voice to an audience.. whether that's a skanky crack head shooting up in a doorway or your good self. It was his independently produced books that allowed him the means to step up a scale. I get the feeling you'd follow this mad capitilist logic for any 'f'lavour of the month' artist which is why you'll probably miss the boat everytime ;D[/quote]
these are of course personal opinions and not the forums in general
cart before the horse and all that.. he produced one, plus 6 colourways... in effect one piece of work, probably as both a negative commentary on the commercialisation of art and an ironic/iconic take on Warhols Marilyn..one artist, one great pice of work. Actually there were 50 and then 6 colourways but of course there was one original from which the prints were made. Banksy produced this one piece, from which commercial prints could be made and sold. We didn't first see this piece on a shoreditch wall as a negative commentary on the commercialisation of art and an ironic/iconic take on Warhols Marilyn.., we saw it in a gallery with a price tag on it. Which of course is exactly why it was produced. [/quote]Gallery owners and agents have been sniffing around banksy for years to try an coherse him into making them some cash.. he now has the means to produce what and when and where he likes... in spite of, not because of agents and commercial gallery owners he made Laz and Tom Tom..and I'm sure he doesn't give a flying toss about anything other than bringing his work and voice to an audience.. whether that's a skanky crack head shooting up in a doorway or your good self. It was his independently produced books that allowed him the means to step up a scale. I get the feeling you'd follow this mad capitilist logic for any 'f'lavour of the month' artist which is why you'll probably miss the boat everytime ;D[/quote] these are of course personal opinions and not the forums in general
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Banksy Links, by numusic on Jun 4, 2006 13:20:57 GMT 1, he didn't produce the canvas cos he wanted to sell it !!! jeez.. suggest you take your eyes away from the price tags and go have another look through his work.
You gotta be kidding me right. Banksy didn't produce 170 Marilyn prints and stick them in a gallery because he didn't want to sell them. He is a street artist who produces canvases and prints precisely to sell them. That's why he has an agent and the pieces end up in galleries with price tags on them. But you were joking weren't you. [/quote]
you inspired me punkdaisy
It will henceforth be named punkdaisy !
he didn't produce the canvas cos he wanted to sell it !!! jeez.. suggest you take your eyes away from the price tags and go have another look through his work. You gotta be kidding me right. Banksy didn't produce 170 Marilyn prints and stick them in a gallery because he didn't want to sell them. He is a street artist who produces canvases and prints precisely to sell them. That's why he has an agent and the pieces end up in galleries with price tags on them. But you were joking weren't you. [/quote] you inspired me punkdaisy It will henceforth be named punkdaisy !
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Banksy Links, by punkdaisy on Jun 4, 2006 13:30:47 GMT 1,
.. he now has the means to produce what and when and where he likes... in spite of, not because of agents and commercial gallery owners. Lol, he has the means precisely because he has an agent and sold commercial pieces through galleries. Banksy didn't obtain an agent to get his work and voice to an audience, he had the walls for that. He obtained an agent to make him money. To make money he produces commercial art pieces and takes private commissions.
.. he now has the means to produce what and when and where he likes... in spite of, not because of agents and commercial gallery owners. Lol, he has the means precisely because he has an agent and sold commercial pieces through galleries. Banksy didn't obtain an agent to get his work and voice to an audience, he had the walls for that. He obtained an agent to make him money. To make money he produces commercial art pieces and takes private commissions.
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Banksy Links, by numusic on Jun 4, 2006 14:00:48 GMT 1, .. he now has the means to produce what and when and where he likes... in spite of, not because of agents and commercial gallery owners. Lol, he has the means precisely because he has an agent and sold commercial pieces through galleries. Banksy didn't obtain an agent to get his work and voice to an audience, he had the walls for that. He obtained an agent to make him money. To make money he produces commercial art pieces and takes private commissions.
you not seen the Banksy shark or Barcode then mate ? you are so far off the game the mind boggles..you MUST be an agent is the punkdaisy web site yours
.. he now has the means to produce what and when and where he likes... in spite of, not because of agents and commercial gallery owners. Lol, he has the means precisely because he has an agent and sold commercial pieces through galleries. Banksy didn't obtain an agent to get his work and voice to an audience, he had the walls for that. He obtained an agent to make him money. To make money he produces commercial art pieces and takes private commissions. you not seen the Banksy shark or Barcode then mate ? you are so far off the game the mind boggles..you MUST be an agent is the punkdaisy web site yours
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Banksy Links, by numusic on Jun 4, 2006 14:07:24 GMT 1, .. he now has the means to produce what and when and where he likes... in spite of, not because of agents and commercial gallery owners. Lol, he has the means precisely because he has an agent and sold commercial pieces through galleries. Banksy didn't obtain an agent to get his work and voice to an audience, he had the walls for that. He obtained an agent to make him money. To make money he produces commercial art pieces and takes private commissions.
"someone recently asked me if I thought most graf writers were frustrated artists like myself. Well, I'm frustrated by many things but trying to get accepted by the art world isn't one or them. This seems difficult for some people to understand-you do not paint in the vain hope that one day some big fat tory will discover you and put ypur pictures on his walls, if you draw on walls in public you are already operating on a higher level"
Banging your head against a brick wall (not unlike this deabte)
Read it and weep ;D ;D ;D
.. he now has the means to produce what and when and where he likes... in spite of, not because of agents and commercial gallery owners. Lol, he has the means precisely because he has an agent and sold commercial pieces through galleries. Banksy didn't obtain an agent to get his work and voice to an audience, he had the walls for that. He obtained an agent to make him money. To make money he produces commercial art pieces and takes private commissions. "someone recently asked me if I thought most graf writers were frustrated artists like myself. Well, I'm frustrated by many things but trying to get accepted by the art world isn't one or them. This seems difficult for some people to understand-you do not paint in the vain hope that one day some big fat tory will discover you and put ypur pictures on his walls, if you draw on walls in public you are already operating on a higher level" Banging your head against a brick wall (not unlike this deabte) Read it and weep ;D ;D ;D
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Banksy Links, by punkdaisy on Jun 4, 2006 14:09:21 GMT 1,
you not seen the Banksy shark or Barcode then mate ? you are so far off the game the mind boggles..you MUST be an agent is the punkdaisy web site yours [/quote]
I'm not exactly sure what you are going on about now. Yes I have seen the Banksy Shark and the Banksy commercial barcode print.
you not seen the Banksy shark or Barcode then mate ? you are so far off the game the mind boggles..you MUST be an agent is the punkdaisy web site yours [/quote] I'm not exactly sure what you are going on about now. Yes I have seen the Banksy Shark and the Banksy commercial barcode print.
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Banksy Links, by punkdaisy on Jun 4, 2006 14:20:11 GMT 1, "someone recently asked me if I thought most graf writers were frustrated artists like myself. Well, I'm frustrated by many things but trying to get accepted by the art world isn't one or them. This seems difficult for some people to understand-you do not paint in the vain hope that one day some big fat tory will discover you and put ypur pictures on his walls, if you draw on walls in public you are already operating on a higher level" Exactly. Talk to any real graf artist and that is where it stops on the walls. That's what it is all about. When you take that art into the commercial sector then the street term is 'sold out'
"someone recently asked me if I thought most graf writers were frustrated artists like myself. Well, I'm frustrated by many things but trying to get accepted by the art world isn't one or them. This seems difficult for some people to understand-you do not paint in the vain hope that one day some big fat tory will discover you and put ypur pictures on his walls, if you draw on walls in public you are already operating on a higher level" Exactly. Talk to any real graf artist and that is where it stops on the walls. That's what it is all about. When you take that art into the commercial sector then the street term is 'sold out'
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Banksy Links, by punkdaisy on Jun 4, 2006 14:36:25 GMT 1, Love the picture, numusic it's great.
Love the picture, numusic it's great.
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Banksy Links, by Daniel Silk on Jun 4, 2006 14:44:41 GMT 1, Love the picture, numusic it's great. it's for sale lol
Numusic Fans Forum opening soon
Love the picture, numusic it's great. it's for sale lol Numusic Fans Forum opening soon
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Banksy Links, by numusic on Jun 4, 2006 14:47:50 GMT 1, it's for sale lol Numusic Fans Forum opening soon
My humblest apologies, boring Sunday and nothing better to do
it's for sale lol Numusic Fans Forum opening soon My humblest apologies, boring Sunday and nothing better to do
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Banksy Links, by RetroCanvas on Jun 4, 2006 15:02:00 GMT 1, BOE,
Just had a though for a new section for the forum.
You know how there's all this fake banksy stuff on ebay, mug's, t's, magnets, stamps etc etc.
It would be good to have a section on real memorabilia like the Turf war glove and postcard, the di faced tenner, kate postcard, crude oils postcards etc etc.
What do you think??
BOE,
Just had a though for a new section for the forum.
You know how there's all this fake banksy stuff on ebay, mug's, t's, magnets, stamps etc etc.
It would be good to have a section on real memorabilia like the Turf war glove and postcard, the di faced tenner, kate postcard, crude oils postcards etc etc.
What do you think??
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Banksy Links, by numusic on Jun 4, 2006 15:08:20 GMT 1, BOE, Just had a though for a new section for the forum. You know how there's all this fake banksy stuff on ebay, mug's, t's, magnets, stamps etc etc. It would be good to have a section on real memorabilia like the Turf war glove and postcard, the di faced tenner, kate postcard, crude oils postcards etc etc. What do you think??
Hi retro, is the Puma Turf War T short for real ?
BOE, Just had a though for a new section for the forum. You know how there's all this fake banksy stuff on ebay, mug's, t's, magnets, stamps etc etc. It would be good to have a section on real memorabilia like the Turf war glove and postcard, the di faced tenner, kate postcard, crude oils postcards etc etc. What do you think?? Hi retro, is the Puma Turf War T short for real ?
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Banksy Links, by RetroCanvas on Jun 4, 2006 15:13:20 GMT 1, Ik, so there's the turf war tee and the the wrong war hoodie but you know what i mean.
Don't you?
Ik, so there's the turf war tee and the the wrong war hoodie but you know what i mean.
Don't you?
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Banksy Links, by monochrome on Jun 4, 2006 15:17:05 GMT 1, Can we stop going on now...
Banksy = Capitalist.
He's probably worth well over a million these days. That's why he makes prints and signs them. He wants to be rich... probably like 95% of the population. Think he did Blur's artwork for free? He's sold thousands of books, commissions etc. for free? Nah - cloud cookoo land me thinks.
He can remain political (I personally don't think he is at all), he can paint walls with or without permission. He can sit on his arse and do nowt for the rest of his life should he want to. He's not a starving artist - he's making a lot of cash by making some great pop art prints and good on him. However, I do think there are people around him wanting their slice too which I'm not happy about, but that's another debate altogether.
For those who buy ever single Banksy released - why? Surely everything isn't great is it? Or is it blind devotion similar to a 15 year old girl and Take That?
Buy what you like, put pins through the corners and blutack on the back - that is a true appreciation of art! Not having a limited edition wanked all over unframed rude copper in a tube collecting dust waiting for the price to rise.... that's just an insult.
OK.... rant over. Back to the pies
Robbie Williams
Can we stop going on now...
Banksy = Capitalist.
He's probably worth well over a million these days. That's why he makes prints and signs them. He wants to be rich... probably like 95% of the population. Think he did Blur's artwork for free? He's sold thousands of books, commissions etc. for free? Nah - cloud cookoo land me thinks.
He can remain political (I personally don't think he is at all), he can paint walls with or without permission. He can sit on his arse and do nowt for the rest of his life should he want to. He's not a starving artist - he's making a lot of cash by making some great pop art prints and good on him. However, I do think there are people around him wanting their slice too which I'm not happy about, but that's another debate altogether.
For those who buy ever single Banksy released - why? Surely everything isn't great is it? Or is it blind devotion similar to a 15 year old girl and Take That?
Buy what you like, put pins through the corners and blutack on the back - that is a true appreciation of art! Not having a limited edition wanked all over unframed rude copper in a tube collecting dust waiting for the price to rise.... that's just an insult.
OK.... rant over. Back to the pies
Robbie Williams
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Banksy Links, by punkdaisy on Jun 4, 2006 15:38:01 GMT 1,
It would be good to have a section on real memorabilia like the Turf war glove and postcard, the di faced tenner, kate postcard, crude oils postcards etc etc.
Good idea, there were also the promo postcards issued by Century to publicise the Wall and Piece book. Any others?
It would be good to have a section on real memorabilia like the Turf war glove and postcard, the di faced tenner, kate postcard, crude oils postcards etc etc.
Good idea, there were also the promo postcards issued by Century to publicise the Wall and Piece book. Any others?
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Banksy Links, by policeaware on Jun 4, 2006 15:43:08 GMT 1, Good idea people
Yes Numusic the glove and t-shirt are for real.
Good idea people Yes Numusic the glove and t-shirt are for real.
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Banksy Links, by RetroCanvas on Jun 4, 2006 15:50:08 GMT 1, Theres the Save or delete poster and postcard. I have the postcard :-) and I got a turf war glove :-) :-)
Good for me hey,
Theres the stop esso poster too
Theres the Save or delete poster and postcard. I have the postcard :-) and I got a turf war glove :-) :-)
Good for me hey,
Theres the stop esso poster too
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Banksy Links, by LoveRat on Jun 4, 2006 15:53:44 GMT 1, Can we stop going on now... Banksy = Capitalist. He's probably worth well over a million these days. That's why he makes prints and signs them. He wants to be rich... probably like 95% of the population. Think he did Blur's artwork for free? He's sold thousands of books, commissions etc. for free? Nah - cloud cookoo land me thinks. He can remain political (I personally don't think he is at all), he can paint walls with or without permission. He can sit on his arse and do nowt for the rest of his life should he want to. He's not a starving artist - he's making a lot of cash by making some great pop art prints and good on him. However, I do think there are people around him wanting their slice too which I'm not happy about, but that's another debate altogether. For those who buy ever single Banksy released - why? Surely everything isn't great is it? Or is it blind devotion similar to a 15 year old girl and Take That? Buy what you like, put pins through the corners and blutack on the back - that is a true appreciation of art! Not having a limited edition wanked all over unframed rude copper in a tube collecting dust waiting for the price to rise.... that's just an insult. OK.... rant over. Back to the pies Robbie Williams
Surely the sentiment behind the pictures is the same wether you have ยฃ1 million in the bank or ยฃ1.Just because someone is successful doesn't mean they can't make social comments, does it?
Can we stop going on now... Banksy = Capitalist. He's probably worth well over a million these days. That's why he makes prints and signs them. He wants to be rich... probably like 95% of the population. Think he did Blur's artwork for free? He's sold thousands of books, commissions etc. for free? Nah - cloud cookoo land me thinks. He can remain political (I personally don't think he is at all), he can paint walls with or without permission. He can sit on his arse and do nowt for the rest of his life should he want to. He's not a starving artist - he's making a lot of cash by making some great pop art prints and good on him. However, I do think there are people around him wanting their slice too which I'm not happy about, but that's another debate altogether. For those who buy ever single Banksy released - why? Surely everything isn't great is it? Or is it blind devotion similar to a 15 year old girl and Take That? Buy what you like, put pins through the corners and blutack on the back - that is a true appreciation of art! Not having a limited edition wanked all over unframed rude copper in a tube collecting dust waiting for the price to rise.... that's just an insult. OK.... rant over. Back to the pies Robbie Williams Surely the sentiment behind the pictures is the same wether you have ยฃ1 million in the bank or ยฃ1.Just because someone is successful doesn't mean they can't make social comments, does it?
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Banksy Links, by punkdaisy on Jun 4, 2006 16:10:56 GMT 1, yes and the blur teaser, someone also mentioned I think a save or delete sticker. I guess the record covers would also fall into this catagory.
yes and the blur teaser, someone also mentioned I think a save or delete sticker. I guess the record covers would also fall into this catagory.
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Banksy Links, by RetroCanvas on Jun 4, 2006 16:11:31 GMT 1, Good idea Punkdaisy. Yes Numusic the glove and t-shirt are for real.
Was My good idea Police
Just thought I'd jump in with that ;-)
Good idea Punkdaisy. Yes Numusic the glove and t-shirt are for real. Was My good idea Police Just thought I'd jump in with that ;-)
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Banksy Links, by LoveRat on Jun 4, 2006 16:23:57 GMT 1, polite tape and weapons of mass distraction postcard also
polite tape and weapons of mass distraction postcard also
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Banksy Links, by RetroCanvas on Jun 4, 2006 16:28:38 GMT 1, Pax Britanica box, polite tape and the Bag from POW.
Pax Britanica box, polite tape and the Bag from POW.
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Banksy Links, by punkdaisy on Jun 4, 2006 16:29:31 GMT 1, polite tape and weapons of mass distraction postcard also I could be wrong but I did hear that the Polite tape isn't actually a Banksy item, it actually belongs to one of the other artists but is marketed as a Banksy item because it would sell more copies. Don't know how true this is, it could be one of those urban myths, but it is what I heard.
polite tape and weapons of mass distraction postcard also I could be wrong but I did hear that the Polite tape isn't actually a Banksy item, it actually belongs to one of the other artists but is marketed as a Banksy item because it would sell more copies. Don't know how true this is, it could be one of those urban myths, but it is what I heard.
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Banksy Links, by RetroCanvas on Jun 4, 2006 16:36:29 GMT 1, polite tape and weapons of mass distraction postcard also I could be wrong but I did hear that the Polite tape isn't actually a Banksy item, it actually belongs to one of the other artists but is marketed as a Banksy item because it would sell more copies. Don't know how true this is, it could be one of those urban myths, but it is what I heard.
It was designed by Banksy and Chu.
Probably has sold more because banksy's name is asociated with it but not for sales reasons i can't imagine
polite tape and weapons of mass distraction postcard also I could be wrong but I did hear that the Polite tape isn't actually a Banksy item, it actually belongs to one of the other artists but is marketed as a Banksy item because it would sell more copies. Don't know how true this is, it could be one of those urban myths, but it is what I heard. It was designed by Banksy and Chu. Probably has sold more because banksy's name is asociated with it but not for sales reasons i can't imagine
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Banksy Links, by LoveRat on Jun 4, 2006 16:37:32 GMT 1, polite tape was thought up between Chu and Banksy
Chu's Website www.schudio.co.uk/
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Banksy Links, by monochrome on Jun 4, 2006 18:10:12 GMT 1, Can we stop going on now... Banksy = Capitalist. He's probably worth well over a million these days. That's why he makes prints and signs them. He wants to be rich... probably like 95% of the population. Think he did Blur's artwork for free? He's sold thousands of books, commissions etc. for free? Nah - cloud cookoo land me thinks. He can remain political (I personally don't think he is at all), he can paint walls with or without permission. He can sit on his arse and do nowt for the rest of his life should he want to. He's not a starving artist - he's making a lot of cash by making some great pop art prints and good on him. However, I do think there are people around him wanting their slice too which I'm not happy about, but that's another debate altogether. For those who buy ever single Banksy released - why? Surely everything isn't great is it? Or is it blind devotion similar to a 15 year old girl and Take That? Buy what you like, put pins through the corners and blutack on the back - that is a true appreciation of art! Not having a limited edition wanked all over unframed rude copper in a tube collecting dust waiting for the price to rise.... that's just an insult. OK.... rant over. Back to the pies Robbie Williams Surely the sentiment behind the pictures is the same wether you have ยฃ1 million in the bank or ยฃ1.Just because someone is successful doesn't mean they can't make social comments, does it?
Totally agreed. However, the population hate being patronised by millionaires.... It's like when bands make it big... one minute they telling us the hardships of the dole queue, two years later it's about their messy divorce and cok problems. The question is, do we care? Er.... nope.
Can we stop going on now... Banksy = Capitalist. He's probably worth well over a million these days. That's why he makes prints and signs them. He wants to be rich... probably like 95% of the population. Think he did Blur's artwork for free? He's sold thousands of books, commissions etc. for free? Nah - cloud cookoo land me thinks. He can remain political (I personally don't think he is at all), he can paint walls with or without permission. He can sit on his arse and do nowt for the rest of his life should he want to. He's not a starving artist - he's making a lot of cash by making some great pop art prints and good on him. However, I do think there are people around him wanting their slice too which I'm not happy about, but that's another debate altogether. For those who buy ever single Banksy released - why? Surely everything isn't great is it? Or is it blind devotion similar to a 15 year old girl and Take That? Buy what you like, put pins through the corners and blutack on the back - that is a true appreciation of art! Not having a limited edition wanked all over unframed rude copper in a tube collecting dust waiting for the price to rise.... that's just an insult. OK.... rant over. Back to the pies Robbie Williams Surely the sentiment behind the pictures is the same wether you have ยฃ1 million in the bank or ยฃ1.Just because someone is successful doesn't mean they can't make social comments, does it? Totally agreed. However, the population hate being patronised by millionaires.... It's like when bands make it big... one minute they telling us the hardships of the dole queue, two years later it's about their messy divorce and cok problems. The question is, do we care? Er.... nope.
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Banksy Links, by numusic on Jun 4, 2006 18:32:27 GMT 1,
Brilliant, cheers for that ;D
Brilliant, cheers for that ;D
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