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Goldie gives a lesson in art history, by s-editions on Jun 6, 2008 21:39:44 GMT 1, From Skrufff e-magazine, 6th June 2008:
Goldie's Berlin Swastika Solution
British artist Goldie brushed off accusations of insensitivity for including a painting of a yellow reversed swastika in his latest collection this week, declaring 'it was originally a peace symbol and never a swastika. Do your homework!'
The multifaceted drum & bass DJ/ producer and occasional James Bond baddie was chatting to Skrufff in advance of an exhibition of his pictures at Berlin Gallery Babylon Academy on 13th - 26th June, where the swastika picture won't be on display due to German laws.
He also dismissed criticism that he'd included a swastika painting simply to be provocative ('I'm not bothered about critics' perceptions, I don't care what they think') though conceded that controversy is a central part of his creative approach.
"Art should be controversial. It's been around for thousands of years. There's more social commentary with art now than there ever was. In the last thousand years we've had f**k all, but in the previous fifty we've had everything," he said.
"There's been a lot of attention on advertising symbols and brands, twisting them to the point where they're no more than the advert; he added, "Ironic!"
Other artists involved include Brian Jones, Mantis, Ryca and former London club celeb/ performance artist Jason Atomic who on June 20 will be back in London attempting to set a world record for the most people sketched in one hour. Jason is also due to perform a practise run at the Berlin exhibition which takes place at former department store Kunsthaus Tacheles from Friday June 13.
www.babylonacademy.com
From Skrufff e-magazine, 6th June 2008: Goldie's Berlin Swastika Solution British artist Goldie brushed off accusations of insensitivity for including a painting of a yellow reversed swastika in his latest collection this week, declaring 'it was originally a peace symbol and never a swastika. Do your homework!' The multifaceted drum & bass DJ/ producer and occasional James Bond baddie was chatting to Skrufff in advance of an exhibition of his pictures at Berlin Gallery Babylon Academy on 13th - 26th June, where the swastika picture won't be on display due to German laws. He also dismissed criticism that he'd included a swastika painting simply to be provocative ('I'm not bothered about critics' perceptions, I don't care what they think') though conceded that controversy is a central part of his creative approach. "Art should be controversial. It's been around for thousands of years. There's more social commentary with art now than there ever was. In the last thousand years we've had f**k all, but in the previous fifty we've had everything," he said. "There's been a lot of attention on advertising symbols and brands, twisting them to the point where they're no more than the advert; he added, "Ironic!" Other artists involved include Brian Jones, Mantis, Ryca and former London club celeb/ performance artist Jason Atomic who on June 20 will be back in London attempting to set a world record for the most people sketched in one hour. Jason is also due to perform a practise run at the Berlin exhibition which takes place at former department store Kunsthaus Tacheles from Friday June 13. www.babylonacademy.com
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Goldie gives a lesson in art history, by Harveyn on Jun 6, 2008 21:46:57 GMT 1, S-editions some quality work and great to see.
S-editions some quality work and great to see.
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Goldie gives a lesson in art history, by slowmo on Jun 6, 2008 21:55:29 GMT 1, "Art should be controversial. It's been around for thousands of years. There's more social commentary with art now than there ever was. In the last thousand years we've had f**k all, but in the previous fifty we've had everything," he said.
I've never heard a more ill informed statement in my life! What a moron.
"Art should be controversial. It's been around for thousands of years. There's more social commentary with art now than there ever was. In the last thousand years we've had f**k all, but in the previous fifty we've had everything," he said.
I've never heard a more ill informed statement in my life! What a moron.
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Goldie gives a lesson in art history, by Coach on Jun 6, 2008 21:57:00 GMT 1, What sort of prices are these?
What sort of prices are these?
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Goldie gives a lesson in art history, by junkieart on Jun 6, 2008 21:59:19 GMT 1, Goldies a f'ing idiot enough said!!
Goldies a f'ing idiot enough said!!
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Goldie gives a lesson in art history, by Harveyn on Jun 6, 2008 22:01:03 GMT 1, Like to hear more on your thoughts Slowmo. Not disagreeing just interested in your point.
Like to hear more on your thoughts Slowmo. Not disagreeing just interested in your point.
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Goldie gives a lesson in art history, by s-editions on Jun 6, 2008 22:05:14 GMT 1, "Art should be controversial. It's been around for thousands of years. There's more social commentary with art now than there ever was. In the last thousand years we've had f**k all, but in the previous fifty we've had everything," he said. I've never heard a more ill informed statement in my life! What a moron.
We love you slowmo, and you are very well thought of at s-editions - but don't you remember what happened last time you slagged off an artist we work with?
It will have to be a North Korean newspaper this time. And we will expect you to go to North Korea to get it!
"Art should be controversial. It's been around for thousands of years. There's more social commentary with art now than there ever was. In the last thousand years we've had f**k all, but in the previous fifty we've had everything," he said. I've never heard a more ill informed statement in my life! What a moron. We love you slowmo, and you are very well thought of at s-editions - but don't you remember what happened last time you slagged off an artist we work with? It will have to be a North Korean newspaper this time. And we will expect you to go to North Korea to get it!
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Goldie gives a lesson in art history, by foreman on Jun 6, 2008 22:08:44 GMT 1, how come I can find any of this great goldie news on the goldie forum???
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Goldie gives a lesson in art history, by curiousgeorge on Jun 6, 2008 22:14:08 GMT 1, Goldies a f'ing idiot enough said!!
Beg to differ, just on the fact where he is, and where he came from. That takes balls,brains and a bit of good luck
Goldies a f'ing idiot enough said!! Beg to differ, just on the fact where he is, and where he came from. That takes balls,brains and a bit of good luck
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Goldie gives a lesson in art history, by Deleted on Jun 6, 2008 22:16:23 GMT 1, Goldie is a legend, some of his early dnb will always be held as ground breaking greatness. Not sure about the art but dnb he knows his stuff.
Goldie is a legend, some of his early dnb will always be held as ground breaking greatness. Not sure about the art but dnb he knows his stuff.
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Goldie gives a lesson in art history, by Heavyconsumer on Jun 6, 2008 22:19:54 GMT 1, SE, there's some very nice work on the site. What's the price of "Pump Doll" out of interest? Interesting piece. Does this count as "application?"
SE, there's some very nice work on the site. What's the price of "Pump Doll" out of interest? Interesting piece. Does this count as "application?"
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Goldie gives a lesson in art history, by Deleted on Jun 6, 2008 22:20:38 GMT 1, wow, i had never seen this, cheers george, you learn something new everyday.
wow, i had never seen this, cheers george, you learn something new everyday.
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Goldie gives a lesson in art history, by junkieart on Jun 6, 2008 22:25:42 GMT 1, Sorry only quote on his statement above, don't really get his drum and bass (bit to old I was more Dreamscapes in the 90s), sounds a bit worrying to me? saying not really bothered what the Swastika means and is not bothered what people think, very brave or stupid?
Sorry only quote on his statement above, don't really get his drum and bass (bit to old I was more Dreamscapes in the 90s), sounds a bit worrying to me? saying not really bothered what the Swastika means and is not bothered what people think, very brave or stupid?
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Goldie gives a lesson in art history, by curiousgeorge on Jun 6, 2008 22:26:33 GMT 1, Indeed we do, it amazes me how quick people are to dismiss him,the dude has paid his due's like no other!
Just for you Liam
uk.youtube.com/watch?v=jm64FNL2MJc
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Goldie gives a lesson in art history, by s-editions on Jun 6, 2008 22:27:41 GMT 1, SE, there's some very nice work on the site. What's the price of "Pump Doll" out of interest? Interesting piece. Does this count as "application?"
Thanks for the compliment. We are really enjoying working with such a great bunch of talents.
And no, if we put the price on here it would count as publication! All the prices will go on to the site when the show opens. You will get a PM from us though...
SE, there's some very nice work on the site. What's the price of "Pump Doll" out of interest? Interesting piece. Does this count as "application?" Thanks for the compliment. We are really enjoying working with such a great bunch of talents. And no, if we put the price on here it would count as publication! All the prices will go on to the site when the show opens. You will get a PM from us though...
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Goldie gives a lesson in art history, by angel41 on Jun 6, 2008 22:42:15 GMT 1, Inner City Life, legendary, early graffiti work, brilliant, new work, pretty cool, statement about art in this thread, ignorant. Still a top bloke though.
Inner City Life, legendary, early graffiti work, brilliant, new work, pretty cool, statement about art in this thread, ignorant. Still a top bloke though.
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Goldie gives a lesson in art history, by Deleted on Jun 6, 2008 22:48:29 GMT 1, cheers george, loved it...
cheers george, loved it...
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Goldie gives a lesson in art history, by cashman on Jun 6, 2008 22:51:26 GMT 1,
cause nobody really uses 94% of the other forums....waste of time really
On the plus side I saw goldie at slammin vinyl the day england beat germany 5-1.....messy..messy...messy ;D
cause nobody really uses 94% of the other forums....waste of time really On the plus side I saw goldie at slammin vinyl the day england beat germany 5-1.....messy..messy...messy ;D
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Goldie gives a lesson in art history, by curiousgeorge on Jun 6, 2008 22:57:03 GMT 1, cause nobody really uses 94% of the other forums....waste of time really On the plus side I saw goldie at slammin vinyl the day england beat germany 5-1.....messy..messy...messy ;D
I raise that with sunday? nights at the bluenote messyx4 and work on building sites the next day.
Special times
cause nobody really uses 94% of the other forums....waste of time really On the plus side I saw goldie at slammin vinyl the day england beat germany 5-1.....messy..messy...messy ;D I raise that with sunday? nights at the bluenote messyx4 and work on building sites the next day. Special times
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Goldie gives a lesson in art history, by slowmo on Jun 6, 2008 22:59:29 GMT 1, Come on, maybe he was misquoted, but to say all art said nothing about social commentary until 50 years ago? If I need to elaborate then sorry but you are a moron too!
Wake up, smell the coffee and try looking at the work of anyone before 1948! It was a silly statement. First and most immediate stop for those who question me is Guernica, good night goldie.
Come on, maybe he was misquoted, but to say all art said nothing about social commentary until 50 years ago? If I need to elaborate then sorry but you are a moron too!
Wake up, smell the coffee and try looking at the work of anyone before 1948! It was a silly statement. First and most immediate stop for those who question me is Guernica, good night goldie.
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Goldie gives a lesson in art history, by Harveyn on Jun 6, 2008 23:10:08 GMT 1, Slowmo - I simply meant for you to expand upon your statement and open peoples views to the wider context of art and its influence at the time of conception. I did not say that I disagreed and made no hostile comment. I just wanted to open it up to a wider debate on the social commentary art has or has not provided historically. Sighting examples and giving opinions, such as you have of other artist and works that have influenced society in their day is what I meant. But thanks for reducing it to a base comment, maybe I am just a moron. I will leave this for other people to judge.
Slowmo - I simply meant for you to expand upon your statement and open peoples views to the wider context of art and its influence at the time of conception. I did not say that I disagreed and made no hostile comment. I just wanted to open it up to a wider debate on the social commentary art has or has not provided historically. Sighting examples and giving opinions, such as you have of other artist and works that have influenced society in their day is what I meant. But thanks for reducing it to a base comment, maybe I am just a moron. I will leave this for other people to judge.
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Goldie gives a lesson in art history, by junkieart on Jun 6, 2008 23:15:00 GMT 1, I totally agree slowmo! Stupid statement the spanish civil war was post 1948? yes nothing happened before! and Guernica is the best piece of anti war art ever IMO
I totally agree slowmo! Stupid statement the spanish civil war was post 1948? yes nothing happened before! and Guernica is the best piece of anti war art ever IMO
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Goldie gives a lesson in art history, by slowmo on Jun 6, 2008 23:21:13 GMT 1, Goldie is a moron for saying what he said. He should retract that statement and hope (although I doubt) someone cares to publish it.
No offence to anyone, this is simply truth over an idiotic statement
Goldie is a moron for saying what he said. He should retract that statement and hope (although I doubt) someone cares to publish it.
No offence to anyone, this is simply truth over an idiotic statement
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Goldie gives a lesson in art history, by jamesreeve5 on Jun 7, 2008 2:07:07 GMT 1, Goldie is a moron for saying what he said. He should retract that statement and hope (although I doubt) someone cares to publish it. No offence to anyone, this is simply truth over an idiotic statement
agreed...
Goldie is a moron for saying what he said. He should retract that statement and hope (although I doubt) someone cares to publish it. No offence to anyone, this is simply truth over an idiotic statement agreed...
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Goldie gives a lesson in art history, by discoduster on Jun 7, 2008 6:54:17 GMT 1, I liked him in Eastenders
I liked him in Eastenders
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Goldie gives a lesson in art history, by fergy on Jun 7, 2008 9:47:44 GMT 1, ""Art should be controversial. It's been around for thousands of years. There's more social commentary with art now than there ever was. In the last thousand years we've had f**k all, but in the previous fifty we've had everything," he said."
Yes, he's clearly ill educated when it comes to art history. Guess he's just trying to be provocative and rub people up. With all art, from years or centuries gone by, one has to remember the political and social climate that it was created in. Same with music - i.e the Pistols, Elvis etc.
As for the swastika - one can go all one likes about about it's origins although to millions that symbol will always be an anti - semitic statement.
""Art should be controversial. It's been around for thousands of years. There's more social commentary with art now than there ever was. In the last thousand years we've had f**k all, but in the previous fifty we've had everything," he said."
Yes, he's clearly ill educated when it comes to art history. Guess he's just trying to be provocative and rub people up. With all art, from years or centuries gone by, one has to remember the political and social climate that it was created in. Same with music - i.e the Pistols, Elvis etc.
As for the swastika - one can go all one likes about about it's origins although to millions that symbol will always be an anti - semitic statement.
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Goldie gives a lesson in art history, by bozboz on Jun 7, 2008 10:01:32 GMT 1, Yeah Goldie is a legend for sure. He pretty much defined drum and bass in the early days and his label continues to be a driving force even now. The very fact that hes prolific in so many spheres and has come so far from such difficuly beginnings is a testament to the guy, and some of his new works are brilliant.
Dont be fooled by the bond badguy look, theres a lot more going on under the hood than meets the eye
Yeah Goldie is a legend for sure. He pretty much defined drum and bass in the early days and his label continues to be a driving force even now. The very fact that hes prolific in so many spheres and has come so far from such difficuly beginnings is a testament to the guy, and some of his new works are brilliant.
Dont be fooled by the bond badguy look, theres a lot more going on under the hood than meets the eye
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Goldie gives a lesson in art history, by pezlow on Jun 7, 2008 10:07:09 GMT 1, ""Art should be controversial. It's been around for thousands of years. There's more social commentary with art now than there ever was. In the last thousand years we've had f**k all, but in the previous fifty we've had everything," he said." Yes, he's clearly ill educated when it comes to art history. Guess he's just trying to be provocative and rub people up. With all art, from years or centuries gone by, one has to remember the political and social climate that it was created in. Same with music - i.e the Pistols, Elvis etc. As for the swastika - one can go all one likes about about it's origins although to millions that symbol will always be an anti - semitic statement.
Great post. 100% agree with you and slowmo.
""Art should be controversial. It's been around for thousands of years. There's more social commentary with art now than there ever was. In the last thousand years we've had f**k all, but in the previous fifty we've had everything," he said." Yes, he's clearly ill educated when it comes to art history. Guess he's just trying to be provocative and rub people up. With all art, from years or centuries gone by, one has to remember the political and social climate that it was created in. Same with music - i.e the Pistols, Elvis etc. As for the swastika - one can go all one likes about about it's origins although to millions that symbol will always be an anti - semitic statement. Great post. 100% agree with you and slowmo.
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Goldie gives a lesson in art history, by Eton Groover on Jun 7, 2008 12:01:58 GMT 1, If I could ask Goldie a question it would not be about art.... It would be "What sort of noises does Bjork make in bed?"
If I could ask Goldie a question it would not be about art.... It would be "What sort of noises does Bjork make in bed?"
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