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Jetset Graffiti Still Owe Me $8k From June 20008, by Poppy Sunshine on Dec 9, 2009 22:28:47 GMT 1, I've all but given up trying to resolve this issue so rather than asking for forum help I am simply letting you all know what the situation is before any of you part with your hard earned and end up with nothing.
In June 2008 I sent $8007 to Daniel Lahoda (Jetset Graffiti) for a Gold Flags.
I won't go into massive detail but after much delaying followed by a refusal to answer messages, a big row on the Giant forum, a promise to sort it out, then a denial of all knowledge of who I am, I am still left out of pocket and with no print or explanation.
I have absolutely no idea why this stance has been taken. I am a pretty laid back and easy going person (far too laid back unfortunately). I've done nothing other than ask for the right thing to be done but to no avail.
After the Ron English mess I thought Mr Jetset would have sorted himself out and cleared the slate but although a lot of peoples problems were rectified mine remains as it was.
I'd love to know why Mr Lahoda has decided to make an enemy of me or why he has made no attempt to sort this out but am at a complete loss.
I've again tried to make contact this week through the forum but have been palmed off by different people supposedly sending replies to me about directing my mail to other departments. I'm sure Jetset Graffiti hasn't become so big that whoever picks up the pms can't tell Mr Lahoda about them directly. Especially when I have made it quite clear that legal action is the only option I have left.
Either way I will be left with nothing ultimately.
I was amazed to find Dface teaming up with him after the previous problems and as a massive Dface fan it comes as a shock and disappointment. Especially as I would have been one of the first banging on the door for those new releases on metal. I know people have long memories and I sincerely hope nothing tarnishes Dface in any way.
Thanks to those who have tried to help in the past or who have simply shown support. I'm sure you will be as surprised as me that this is still ongoing.
I've all but given up trying to resolve this issue so rather than asking for forum help I am simply letting you all know what the situation is before any of you part with your hard earned and end up with nothing.
In June 2008 I sent $8007 to Daniel Lahoda (Jetset Graffiti) for a Gold Flags.
I won't go into massive detail but after much delaying followed by a refusal to answer messages, a big row on the Giant forum, a promise to sort it out, then a denial of all knowledge of who I am, I am still left out of pocket and with no print or explanation.
I have absolutely no idea why this stance has been taken. I am a pretty laid back and easy going person (far too laid back unfortunately). I've done nothing other than ask for the right thing to be done but to no avail.
After the Ron English mess I thought Mr Jetset would have sorted himself out and cleared the slate but although a lot of peoples problems were rectified mine remains as it was.
I'd love to know why Mr Lahoda has decided to make an enemy of me or why he has made no attempt to sort this out but am at a complete loss.
I've again tried to make contact this week through the forum but have been palmed off by different people supposedly sending replies to me about directing my mail to other departments. I'm sure Jetset Graffiti hasn't become so big that whoever picks up the pms can't tell Mr Lahoda about them directly. Especially when I have made it quite clear that legal action is the only option I have left.
Either way I will be left with nothing ultimately.
I was amazed to find Dface teaming up with him after the previous problems and as a massive Dface fan it comes as a shock and disappointment. Especially as I would have been one of the first banging on the door for those new releases on metal. I know people have long memories and I sincerely hope nothing tarnishes Dface in any way.
Thanks to those who have tried to help in the past or who have simply shown support. I'm sure you will be as surprised as me that this is still ongoing.
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Jetset Graffiti Still Owe Me $8k From June 20008, by etched on Dec 9, 2009 22:43:24 GMT 1, this guy has a history - no doubt !!! i will watch this thread-
this guy has a history - no doubt !!! i will watch this thread-
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Jetset Graffiti Still Owe Me $8k From June 20008, by kennas on Dec 9, 2009 22:43:29 GMT 1, This is a scandal and needs to be escalated. We know JSG reads here and posts, it will be very interesting to see if the coward posts on this thread.
This is a scandal and needs to be escalated. We know JSG reads here and posts, it will be very interesting to see if the coward posts on this thread.
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Jetset Graffiti Still Owe Me $8k From June 20008, by monkeyart on Dec 9, 2009 22:43:38 GMT 1, Blimey i knew FSG had fucked up with the Ron release, I also know alot on here lost out, Curious George if I remember lost out also plus many others! Not sure what I would do in your situation other than the courts. But and this is probably just me and not sure it would make a difference, but would make me feel better, I'd make damn sure every artist I could contact along with every gallery I know what has happened! Hopefully you'll get this sorted!! Peace MA
Blimey i knew FSG had fucked up with the Ron release, I also know alot on here lost out, Curious George if I remember lost out also plus many others! Not sure what I would do in your situation other than the courts. But and this is probably just me and not sure it would make a difference, but would make me feel better, I'd make damn sure every artist I could contact along with every gallery I know what has happened! Hopefully you'll get this sorted!! Peace MA
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Jetset Graffiti Still Owe Me $8k From June 20008, by willywonka on Dec 9, 2009 22:45:27 GMT 1, They must be making some good money through this DFace thing so I would have thought the least they could do is sort all these mishaps out.
They must be making some good money through this DFace thing so I would have thought the least they could do is sort all these mishaps out.
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Jetset Graffiti Still Owe Me $8k From June 20008, by danmuppet on Dec 9, 2009 22:47:10 GMT 1, mr lahoda you have got to sort this out- i have heard loads of terrible stuff about you and how you conduct business! maybe you should let us all know your side of the story, you wont be taken seriously on this forum until you do!
mr lahoda you have got to sort this out- i have heard loads of terrible stuff about you and how you conduct business! maybe you should let us all know your side of the story, you wont be taken seriously on this forum until you do!
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Jetset Graffiti Still Owe Me $8k From June 20008, by Deleted on Dec 9, 2009 22:47:50 GMT 1, I'm stunned, I heared a lot of bad things about JSG but this is a brutal scandal.
I highly respect your politeness towards him. I think I'm not the only one who would have lost his patient about half a year ago (or even earlier).
The only way you can probably get your money back, is by informing police etc.
All I can say is that I hope this will be solved quickly, and without the need for interference of police or court.
All best, jopkop
I'm stunned, I heared a lot of bad things about JSG but this is a brutal scandal. I highly respect your politeness towards him. I think I'm not the only one who would have lost his patient about half a year ago (or even earlier). The only way you can probably get your money back, is by informing police etc. All I can say is that I hope this will be solved quickly, and without the need for interference of police or court. All best, jopkop
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Jetset Graffiti Still Owe Me $8k From June 20008, by manty on Dec 9, 2009 22:48:29 GMT 1, I've all but given up trying to resolve this issue so rather than asking for forum help I am simply letting you all know what the situation is before any of you part with your hard earned and end up with nothing. In June 2008 I sent $8007 to Daniel Lahoda (Jetset Graffiti) for a Gold Flags. I won't go into massive detail but after much delaying followed by a refusal to answer messages, a big row on the Giant forum, a promise to sort it out, then a denial of all knowledge of who I am, I am still left out of pocket and with no print or explanation. I have absolutely no idea why this stance has been taken. I am a pretty laid back and easy going person (far too laid back unfortunately). I've done nothing other than ask for the right thing to be done but to no avail. After the Ron English mess I thought Mr Jetset would have sorted himself out and cleared the slate but although a lot of peoples problems were rectified mine remains as it was. I'd love to know why Mr Lahoda has decided to make an enemy of me or why he has made no attempt to sort this out but am at a complete loss. I've again tried to make contact this week through the forum but have been palmed off by different people supposedly sending replies to me about directing my mail to other departments. I'm sure Jetset Graffiti hasn't become so big that whoever picks up the pms can't tell Mr Lahoda about them directly. Especially when I have made it quite clear that legal action is the only option I have left. Either way I will be left with nothing ultimately. I was amazed to find Dface teaming up with him after the previous problems and as a massive Dface fan it comes as a shock and disappointment. Especially as I would have been one of the first banging on the door for those new releases on metal. I know people have long memories and I sincerely hope nothing tarnishes Dface in any way. Thanks to those who have tried to help in the past or who have simply shown support. I'm sure you will be as surprised as me that this is still ongoing.
Sorry to here this.
I can only suggest emailing dface to let him know the detail.
I do not understand why artists support this guy.
It can only be detrimental to them. I didnt buy the recent dface releases due to the Reputaion of jetset
Hopefully this can be resolved by Mr Lahoda to the satisfaction of a good forum member.
Good luck poppy
I've all but given up trying to resolve this issue so rather than asking for forum help I am simply letting you all know what the situation is before any of you part with your hard earned and end up with nothing. In June 2008 I sent $8007 to Daniel Lahoda (Jetset Graffiti) for a Gold Flags. I won't go into massive detail but after much delaying followed by a refusal to answer messages, a big row on the Giant forum, a promise to sort it out, then a denial of all knowledge of who I am, I am still left out of pocket and with no print or explanation. I have absolutely no idea why this stance has been taken. I am a pretty laid back and easy going person (far too laid back unfortunately). I've done nothing other than ask for the right thing to be done but to no avail. After the Ron English mess I thought Mr Jetset would have sorted himself out and cleared the slate but although a lot of peoples problems were rectified mine remains as it was. I'd love to know why Mr Lahoda has decided to make an enemy of me or why he has made no attempt to sort this out but am at a complete loss. I've again tried to make contact this week through the forum but have been palmed off by different people supposedly sending replies to me about directing my mail to other departments. I'm sure Jetset Graffiti hasn't become so big that whoever picks up the pms can't tell Mr Lahoda about them directly. Especially when I have made it quite clear that legal action is the only option I have left. Either way I will be left with nothing ultimately. I was amazed to find Dface teaming up with him after the previous problems and as a massive Dface fan it comes as a shock and disappointment. Especially as I would have been one of the first banging on the door for those new releases on metal. I know people have long memories and I sincerely hope nothing tarnishes Dface in any way. Thanks to those who have tried to help in the past or who have simply shown support. I'm sure you will be as surprised as me that this is still ongoing. Sorry to here this. I can only suggest emailing dface to let him know the detail. I do not understand why artists support this guy. It can only be detrimental to them. I didnt buy the recent dface releases due to the Reputaion of jetset Hopefully this can be resolved by Mr Lahoda to the satisfaction of a good forum member. Good luck poppy
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Jetset Graffiti Still Owe Me $8k From June 20008, by Guest on Dec 9, 2009 22:53:42 GMT 1, This is nothing but lies; we have always maintained this fact.
There is no logical explanation for this, but an ongoing effort by this person/people to discredit our business. There is a very clear reason that this person has chosen the day before our release with D*Face to bring this up again, yet the claim has been ongoing for 18 months without any formal contact or result?
We have encouraged the original poster to contact us offline for comment; we have also urged them to contact us via a third party, and we have requested that this person contact us through any means; formal or otherwise to discuss this matter. We will not comment further on this claim, other than to say it is entirely false.
We assure all potential and current clients that we are treating this most seriously and are trying to find contact information for this person.
This is nothing but lies; we have always maintained this fact.
There is no logical explanation for this, but an ongoing effort by this person/people to discredit our business. There is a very clear reason that this person has chosen the day before our release with D*Face to bring this up again, yet the claim has been ongoing for 18 months without any formal contact or result?
We have encouraged the original poster to contact us offline for comment; we have also urged them to contact us via a third party, and we have requested that this person contact us through any means; formal or otherwise to discuss this matter. We will not comment further on this claim, other than to say it is entirely false.
We assure all potential and current clients that we are treating this most seriously and are trying to find contact information for this person.
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Jetset Graffiti Still Owe Me $8k From June 20008, by Billy Sport on Dec 9, 2009 23:00:40 GMT 1, poppy - you must have an audit trail of emails and even how you transferred money. As JSG have said you're lying your best bet is to contact the police and present all the material you have.
too many incidents have occured that are never taken ownership of for my liking.
poppy - you must have an audit trail of emails and even how you transferred money. As JSG have said you're lying your best bet is to contact the police and present all the material you have.
too many incidents have occured that are never taken ownership of for my liking.
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Jetset Graffiti Still Owe Me $8k From June 20008, by Billy Sport on Dec 9, 2009 23:01:28 GMT 1, This is nothing but lies; we have always maintained this fact. There is no logical explanation for this, but an ongoing effort by this person/people to discredit our business. There is a very clear reason that this person has chosen the day before our release with D*Face to bring this up again, yet the claim has been ongoing for 18 months without any formal contact or result? We have encouraged the original poster to contact us offline for comment; we have also urged them to contact us via a third party, and we have requested that this person contact us through any means; formal or otherwise to discuss this matter. We will not comment further on this claim, other than to say it is entirely false. We assure all potential and current clients that we are treating this most seriously and are trying to find contact information for this person.
just in case post is edited in the future
This is nothing but lies; we have always maintained this fact. There is no logical explanation for this, but an ongoing effort by this person/people to discredit our business. There is a very clear reason that this person has chosen the day before our release with D*Face to bring this up again, yet the claim has been ongoing for 18 months without any formal contact or result? We have encouraged the original poster to contact us offline for comment; we have also urged them to contact us via a third party, and we have requested that this person contact us through any means; formal or otherwise to discuss this matter. We will not comment further on this claim, other than to say it is entirely false. We assure all potential and current clients that we are treating this most seriously and are trying to find contact information for this person. just in case post is edited in the future
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Jetset Graffiti Still Owe Me $8k From June 20008, by barry cilit on Dec 9, 2009 23:11:28 GMT 1, nice idea billysport!
nice idea billysport!
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Jetset Graffiti Still Owe Me $8k From June 20008, by snausages on Dec 9, 2009 23:17:18 GMT 1, It's really time to secure the evidence, (invoices/emails/records of bank transfers etc.) find a lawyer and take this person to court. If true this is way too much money to let slide.
It's really time to secure the evidence, (invoices/emails/records of bank transfers etc.) find a lawyer and take this person to court. If true this is way too much money to let slide.
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Jetset Graffiti Still Owe Me $8k From June 20008, by love on Dec 9, 2009 23:20:09 GMT 1, What happend at the Ron release? What happened with jetset 1-1,5 years ago, that everybody warning to buy prints from them?
What happend at the Ron release? What happened with jetset 1-1,5 years ago, that everybody warning to buy prints from them?
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Jetset Graffiti Still Owe Me $8k From June 20008, by Photoxtc on Dec 9, 2009 23:25:07 GMT 1, this seems to be more of a private matter between two people... I'm not taking sides either way nor do I care to but it would be pretty easy for either party to make claims substantiated or not and at this point it's all hearsay until proven otherwise... I would say if there really is an issue here it would be best suited for a mediator and if that doesn't work then legal action should be taken... if it was me I would have gone that route after a few months, I wouldn't have waited a year and half...
this seems to be more of a private matter between two people... I'm not taking sides either way nor do I care to but it would be pretty easy for either party to make claims substantiated or not and at this point it's all hearsay until proven otherwise... I would say if there really is an issue here it would be best suited for a mediator and if that doesn't work then legal action should be taken... if it was me I would have gone that route after a few months, I wouldn't have waited a year and half...
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Jetset Graffiti Still Owe Me $8k From June 20008, by spirit on Dec 9, 2009 23:26:14 GMT 1, We ... are trying to find contact information for this person.
er....this person has pm'd you...all you have to do to contact them is pm back.
its really not difficult.
We ... are trying to find contact information for this person. er....this person has pm'd you...all you have to do to contact them is pm back. its really not difficult.
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Jetset Graffiti Still Owe Me $8k From June 20008, by grantb on Dec 9, 2009 23:26:42 GMT 1, so jetset did he get his flags or his money back?
so jetset did he get his flags or his money back?
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Jetset Graffiti Still Owe Me $8k From June 20008, by monkeyart on Dec 9, 2009 23:27:06 GMT 1, Nice one Billysport, I'm sure there's more people on here that have had problems with JSG? The Ron English edition seemed to be a particular problem, tbh I'm also a big fan of Dface and have brought a a few of his older pieces but wouldn't ever buy from this particular gallery. Anyway I hope you get it sorted and Jet Set, admitting to messing up before, but your trying to get it right now would be nice :-) Peace MA
Nice one Billysport, I'm sure there's more people on here that have had problems with JSG? The Ron English edition seemed to be a particular problem, tbh I'm also a big fan of Dface and have brought a a few of his older pieces but wouldn't ever buy from this particular gallery. Anyway I hope you get it sorted and Jet Set, admitting to messing up before, but your trying to get it right now would be nice :-) Peace MA
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Jetset Graffiti Still Owe Me $8k From June 20008, by wreck on Dec 10, 2009 0:01:30 GMT 1, I know of 2 people who had SERIOUS trouble getting money back from JSG when their prints never showed up in the past so I wouldn't be surprised in the least if this is true.
If you have details of the transaction you should take legal action as this is not on at all and a warning sign to others who might think twice about sending money the gallery's way in the future.
JSG, you need to clear this up soon or you will further ruin an already severely tarnished reputation!
I know of 2 people who had SERIOUS trouble getting money back from JSG when their prints never showed up in the past so I wouldn't be surprised in the least if this is true.
If you have details of the transaction you should take legal action as this is not on at all and a warning sign to others who might think twice about sending money the gallery's way in the future.
JSG, you need to clear this up soon or you will further ruin an already severely tarnished reputation!
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Jetset Graffiti Still Owe Me $8k From June 20008, by Daniel Silk on Dec 10, 2009 0:26:04 GMT 1, As Photoxtc suggests, I think really this must be best sorted out legally rather than online on a public forum I cant see that posting about it here is really going to help your case. Threads like this just muddy the water and make it all very unclear who, what, where and when is at fault.
As Photoxtc suggests, I think really this must be best sorted out legally rather than online on a public forum I cant see that posting about it here is really going to help your case. Threads like this just muddy the water and make it all very unclear who, what, where and when is at fault.
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Jetset Graffiti Still Owe Me $8k From June 20008, by Harveyn on Dec 10, 2009 0:28:28 GMT 1, JS are you denying that poppysunshine sent you money or are you saying the print was sent after your received the money?
Just interested to know what you are denying.
JS are you denying that poppysunshine sent you money or are you saying the print was sent after your received the money?
Just interested to know what you are denying.
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Jetset Graffiti Still Owe Me $8k From June 20008, by etched on Dec 10, 2009 0:33:46 GMT 1, As Photoxtc suggests, I think really this must be best sorted out legally rather than online on a public forum I cant see that posting about it here is really going to help your case. Threads like this just muddy the water and make it all very unclear who, what, where and when is at fault.
are you joking !!!!! - best way to wash dirty linen - it worked for jeff areosal, yes silky???
As Photoxtc suggests, I think really this must be best sorted out legally rather than online on a public forum I cant see that posting about it here is really going to help your case. Threads like this just muddy the water and make it all very unclear who, what, where and when is at fault. are you joking !!!!! - best way to wash dirty linen - it worked for jeff areosal, yes silky? ??
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Jetset Graffiti Still Owe Me $8k From June 20008, by spirit on Dec 10, 2009 0:35:04 GMT 1, I cant see that posting about it here is really going to help your case. Threads like this just muddy the water and make it all very unclear who, what, where and when is at fault.
On the contrary, I think threads like this can provide a lot of clarity.
I cant see that posting about it here is really going to help your case. Threads like this just muddy the water and make it all very unclear who, what, where and when is at fault. On the contrary, I think threads like this can provide a lot of clarity.
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Jetset Graffiti Still Owe Me $8k From June 20008, by monkeyart on Dec 10, 2009 0:38:12 GMT 1, Be interesting to see how JSG respond!! If someone owed you over 8K what would you do?
Be interesting to see how JSG respond!! If someone owed you over 8K what would you do?
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Jetset Graffiti Still Owe Me $8k From June 20008, by ®at on Dec 10, 2009 0:48:10 GMT 1, If someone owed you over 8K what would you do?
Not wait 18 months to sort it out for a start........
If someone owed you over 8K what would you do? Not wait 18 months to sort it out for a start........
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Jetset Graffiti Still Owe Me $8k From June 20008, by grafik on Dec 10, 2009 0:48:48 GMT 1, Be interesting to see how JSG respond!! If someone owed you over 8K what would you do?
im owed 20k by a certain east london estate agents.
set my lawyer dad on them at the first opportunity.
Be interesting to see how JSG respond!! If someone owed you over 8K what would you do? im owed 20k by a certain east london estate agents. set my lawyer dad on them at the first opportunity.
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Jetset Graffiti Still Owe Me $8k From June 20008, by sug on Dec 10, 2009 0:50:51 GMT 1, If someone owed you over 8K what would you do? Not wait 18 months to sort it out for a start........ you avatar thief you...
If someone owed you over 8K what would you do? Not wait 18 months to sort it out for a start........ you avatar thief you...
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Jetset Graffiti Still Owe Me $8k From June 20008, by Daniel Silk on Dec 10, 2009 0:52:34 GMT 1, Not wait 18 months to sort it out for a start........ you avatar thief you...
Yours is bigger than his or so Im told
Not wait 18 months to sort it out for a start........ you avatar thief you... Yours is bigger than his or so Im told
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Jetset Graffiti Still Owe Me $8k From June 20008, by ®at on Dec 10, 2009 0:54:22 GMT 1, Not wait 18 months to sort it out for a start........ you avatar thief you...
Not quite...I've been using it waaaaaaay longer than you..
Not wait 18 months to sort it out for a start........ you avatar thief you... Not quite...I've been using it waaaaaaay longer than you..
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Jetset Graffiti Still Owe Me $8k From June 20008, by burn111 on Dec 10, 2009 0:57:10 GMT 1, ther only one way to sort this out
FIGHT!
ther only one way to sort this out FIGHT!
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