Urban Art Association

It should be between them then and not the world

then they should take the appropriate steps to find a resolve and then come back on here with facts to back up any claims, if legally acceptable to both parties... I would also say be very careful when it comes to slander as a suit can be filed for that as well... Open forums are great but there can also be serious consequences when someone says something that may harm another person or business...

Again, I am not on either side, I'm just saying I would like to see the facts before stringing someone up...

you and me both...
I look and think 'when the hell did i post on this thread?' then realise its not me... ;D

Daniel needed a daddy to keep him on the straight and narrow. Thank God for Modern Multiples. I am sure Daniel regrets all the problems he has caused in the past, but should at least blame it on a broken home or a sobriety issue. However, he aligns himself with legit artists, galleries, & printers. The only issue remaining is baggage. No amount of money or time can get rid of the past.

Well I'm a reasonable person and I felt like a change........so I've dug out something different

Bring back hanging!

I actually bought a "Gold Flag" off of him and the transaction went perfectly.

I'm no fan of JSG and not taking their side in this whatsoever, but I don't think it's quite so simple. My understanding was that JSG instructed lawyers regarding defamatory comments made in that forum and that the forum was sensored as a result, to avoid further legal action. I may be 100% wrong, but imo the only thing that his banning from there proved, was that the forum staff either believed the buyer in this case - not that the buyer was necessarily being honest and JSG were not - or that they simply decided to ban a member who had issued legal proceedings against them. After all, who wouldn't in their shoes?

I think PS is crazy for waiting 18months and then posting in an art forum instead of sending an email/letter to a lawyer! Don't get that at all! It's not a question of being laid back imo, but one of common sense.

I've already read waaaay too much bad press from JSG's buyers to EVER buy ANYTHING from them, but imo we should try not to point fingers without knowing the facts. Maybe you do know them, but to me they are not at all clear from this thread.

Obviously I hope that any problem is properly resolved, as this type of thing is no good for anyone. Good luck getting back any money you may have lost PS.

like all things " history does repeat itself "

Just so there is no doubt and to answer a few questions raised I do of course have all emails, the bank transaction etc etc as evidence and every email sent and recieved since the beginning of the whole saga including a full transcript of every jetset graffiti thread and post connected to it from the Giant forum.

They were concerned enough about the situation and helpful enough to send me all the information before it was deleted in case I required it for legal reasons at any stage. It is a hell of a lengthy file.

I'm not sure if they were actually served with legal papers or not but the attorney mentioned as a legal representative of jetset graffiti in a similar issue had never heard of him when I made contact hoping to finally get to someone who could do something.

All of this is in the hands of my attorney in New York who awaits my instruction to act on it if I get no solution sorted.
My reluctance to start the legal ball rolling so far is only connected with cost of the action.
You need to have a grasp of how the US legal system works as opposed to the UK system to understand my view on this.

It is not appropriate for me to post personal details on the forum regarding the transaction etc as I don't feel the need to prove myself at this point but those who know me personally on here know the kind of person I am and how I do business and I have no need to spread lies or discredit myself with a tale of nonsense.

Also, I have had no other dealings than this with jetset graffiti so have no reason to personally attack them or ruin any of their releases or trades, I am simply trying to resolve a long standing issue.
I'm sure they haven't built up a reasonable business and managed to get respected artists on board if they are all bad and as such I still hope for a favourable outcome.

$8K down! fuck me. i am a lawyer, and here is my actions.

1. book a flight to where his place is.
2. buy a big stick, no a metal pole. no a big metal FLAG pole
3. smash it on his head. and body and anywhere you might feel thats good.
4. lastly stick it where the sun dont shine, and pretend you have conquerer him, like on the banksy print.
5. get a photo of it, print it up.
6. all the members on here will buy it from an edition of 1000 at $8 a pop.... your money back. sorted.

Genius. Its so obvious when you think about it. ;D

I would only add that you haven't allowed for the cost of the flight and flag pole in your calculations.

oh, i remember having an argument with the person organising the sale on here way back. i found the person's arrogance astounding at the time.

i hadn't realised that was jsg.

I'd like to see at least one piece of hard evidence before making any judgment.
Lets see a scanned receipt, or screen grab of emails from JSG confirming purchase.

Lets face it, most of the other accusations against JSG, regarding the Ron English print, recently proved to be false!