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JetSet Graffiti, by inshallah on Apr 21, 2010 21:14:42 GMT 1, OK, so list of claimed "victims":
1. Poppysunshine (claims loss of $8K, 3 years ago with no result, formal or otherwise.)
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OK, so list of claimed "victims": 1. Poppysunshine (claims loss of $8K, 3 years ago with no result, formal or otherwise.) 2.
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JetSet Graffiti, by Damien on Apr 21, 2010 21:16:35 GMT 1, one victim is one too many
one victim is one too many
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JetSet Graffiti, by burn111 on Apr 21, 2010 21:18:42 GMT 1, one victim is one too many
very true
and it didn't help him being very rude and unhelpful to customers
i have no time for him or his so called gallery
one victim is one too many very true and it didn't help him being very rude and unhelpful to customers i have no time for him or his so called gallery
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JetSet Graffiti, by manty on Apr 21, 2010 21:19:02 GMT 1, OK, so list of actual "victims": 1. Poppysunshine (claims loss of $8K, 3 years ago with no result, formal or otherwise.) 2.
No.1 is enough to be getting on with. No?
OK, so list of actual "victims": 1. Poppysunshine (claims loss of $8K, 3 years ago with no result, formal or otherwise.) 2. No.1 is enough to be getting on with. No?
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JetSet Graffiti, by They call me Stephen on Apr 21, 2010 21:19:30 GMT 1, Try visiting the giant forum and BMW forums, that list will quickly fill up. Also ask JSG why D*Face was completely unaware of the sale of his prints for charity.
Try visiting the giant forum and BMW forums, that list will quickly fill up. Also ask JSG why D*Face was completely unaware of the sale of his prints for charity.
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JetSet Graffiti, by inshallah on Apr 21, 2010 21:19:33 GMT 1, Please, no more posts other than if you have a problem that needs sorting. We still need a respected forum member (preferably one who lives in LA, or knows the dealer) to step up and volunteer to take this list to the dealer and get answers for the community:
List of claimed "victims":
1. Poppysunshine 2.
Please, no more posts other than if you have a problem that needs sorting. We still need a respected forum member (preferably one who lives in LA, or knows the dealer) to step up and volunteer to take this list to the dealer and get answers for the community:
List of claimed "victims":
1. Poppysunshine 2.
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JetSet Graffiti, by They call me Stephen on Apr 21, 2010 21:22:11 GMT 1, Why are you taking such an issue with this inshallah?? Is jsg giving reach arounds these days??
Why are you taking such an issue with this inshallah?? Is jsg giving reach arounds these days??
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JetSet Graffiti, by Damien on Apr 21, 2010 21:22:39 GMT 1, why are you posting inshallah? who are you
why are you posting inshallah? who are you
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JetSet Graffiti, by burn111 on Apr 21, 2010 21:23:42 GMT 1, Why are you taking such an issue with this inshallah?? Is jsg giving reach arounds these days?? ;D
Why are you taking such an issue with this inshallah?? Is jsg giving reach arounds these days?? ;D
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JetSet Graffiti, by telsin on Apr 21, 2010 21:24:04 GMT 1, Is inshallah jetset or am I going mad ?
Is inshallah jetset or am I going mad ?
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JetSet Graffiti, by Damien on Apr 21, 2010 21:25:55 GMT 1, he's jetset or his bird maybe? like the reacharounds quote haha
he's jetset or his bird maybe? like the reacharounds quote haha
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JetSet Graffiti, by Poppy Sunshine on Apr 21, 2010 21:27:18 GMT 1, Your tone seems to indicate that you think one person mistreated doesn't matter inshallah.
Does $8k become a less significant amount if a lot of time has passed?
Has Jetset offered a good explanation as to why this situation is still ongoing after all this time that I for one haven't heard about?
You are obviously here for no other reason than a wind up so I suggest you either crawl back under your stone or come back with some good answers from your new best mate.
Your tone seems to indicate that you think one person mistreated doesn't matter inshallah.
Does $8k become a less significant amount if a lot of time has passed?
Has Jetset offered a good explanation as to why this situation is still ongoing after all this time that I for one haven't heard about?
You are obviously here for no other reason than a wind up so I suggest you either crawl back under your stone or come back with some good answers from your new best mate.
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JetSet Graffiti, by inshallah on Apr 21, 2010 21:32:52 GMT 1, Try visiting the giant forum and BMW forums, that list will quickly fill up. Also ask JSG why D*Face was completely unaware of the sale of his prints for charity.
Someone here already appealed to the BMW forum where he was selling things. There has been no one to step up and claim problems.
Here's that link to the thread that was put up back in February by forum member Grafik. NOONE has stepped forward. The BMW Forum is a non-issue at this point.
forum.e46fanatics.com/showthread.php?t=742277
He was banned on The Giant forum for the same supposed offense against Poppysunshine... Poppysunshine went there and made the same accusation he has made here. Lahoda asked them to remove the "slanderous" material, and they banned him. The Giant Forum is a non-issue at this point, unless others come forward.
So, back to the list:
1. Poppysunshine 2.
Try visiting the giant forum and BMW forums, that list will quickly fill up. Also ask JSG why D*Face was completely unaware of the sale of his prints for charity. Someone here already appealed to the BMW forum where he was selling things. There has been no one to step up and claim problems. Here's that link to the thread that was put up back in February by forum member Grafik. NOONE has stepped forward. The BMW Forum is a non-issue at this point. forum.e46fanatics.com/showthread.php?t=742277 He was banned on The Giant forum for the same supposed offense against Poppysunshine... Poppysunshine went there and made the same accusation he has made here. Lahoda asked them to remove the "slanderous" material, and they banned him. The Giant Forum is a non-issue at this point, unless others come forward. So, back to the list: 1. Poppysunshine 2.
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JetSet Graffiti, by Damien on Apr 21, 2010 21:36:14 GMT 1, one issue only yeah which is $8000 refund plus costs to poppysunshine
one issue only yeah which is $8000 refund plus costs to poppysunshine
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JetSet Graffiti, by inshallah on Apr 21, 2010 21:39:09 GMT 1, Also ask JSG why D*Face was completely unaware of the sale of his prints for charity.
I don't have direct contact with JSG, nor am I an employee, friend, or other acquaintance. I am simply a nosy f**ker with an affinity for the truth.
The DFace Publisher proofs that were sold to benefit Haiti had nothing to do with the artist, other than it being his images. Publishers proofs indicate ownership by The Publisher. Correct me if I'm wrong, but you don't have to get permission from the artist every time you sell a print that you own, do you?
The edition was (correct me if I'm wrong), 100 regular edition, 10, AP's (belong to DFace), 10 Pub. P's (Belong to JSG as publisher), and 10 Printer's Proofs (belong to the print studio).
So, that allegation is a non-issue at this point. Actually I would like to know what DFace did with his AP's? They probably didn't go to charity, did they? If anything JSG should be commended for donating his sales of those prints.
Back to the list:
1. Poppysunshine 2.
Also ask JSG why D*Face was completely unaware of the sale of his prints for charity. I don't have direct contact with JSG, nor am I an employee, friend, or other acquaintance. I am simply a nosy f**ker with an affinity for the truth. The DFace Publisher proofs that were sold to benefit Haiti had nothing to do with the artist, other than it being his images. Publishers proofs indicate ownership by The Publisher. Correct me if I'm wrong, but you don't have to get permission from the artist every time you sell a print that you own, do you? The edition was (correct me if I'm wrong), 100 regular edition, 10, AP's (belong to DFace), 10 Pub. P's (Belong to JSG as publisher), and 10 Printer's Proofs (belong to the print studio). So, that allegation is a non-issue at this point. Actually I would like to know what DFace did with his AP's? They probably didn't go to charity, did they? If anything JSG should be commended for donating his sales of those prints. Back to the list: 1. Poppysunshine 2.
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JetSet Graffiti, by burn111 on Apr 21, 2010 21:40:46 GMT 1, keep your nose out then
keep your nose out then
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JetSet Graffiti, by RPM on Apr 21, 2010 21:44:16 GMT 1, I'm curious to know what the status of the LAPD art division investigation is? Typically the LAPD provide an estimate as to when their investigation will (or is expected to) be completed. poppysunshine, what have you heard from them?
Also, I believe it was pfffffffffft that said he had been in touch with the charity. pfffffffffft, can you provide us with any update? [As a side note, I'm not even sure if the charity are able (legally) to confirm one way or the other that the donation was made. Unless the donor gave permission to make the information public, this is not usually shared.]
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[Modified: I'm not pro or anti JSG. I agree that this community needs to know the facts about those that are doing business in the community. That's why I'm asking. Not trying to flame anyone or cause a fight ... ]
I'm curious to know what the status of the LAPD art division investigation is? Typically the LAPD provide an estimate as to when their investigation will (or is expected to) be completed. poppysunshine, what have you heard from them? Also, I believe it was pfffffffffft that said he had been in touch with the charity. pfffffffffft, can you provide us with any update? [As a side note, I'm not even sure if the charity are able (legally) to confirm one way or the other that the donation was made. Unless the donor gave permission to make the information public, this is not usually shared.] RPM [Modified: I'm not pro or anti JSG. I agree that this community needs to know the facts about those that are doing business in the community. That's why I'm asking. Not trying to flame anyone or cause a fight ... ]
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JetSet Graffiti, by bigtlt on Apr 21, 2010 21:46:45 GMT 1, By taking this quote of yours from the Saber topic
"Are the trolls done? OK, we know you don't like the publisher; that's your problem, not ours. Let's talk about the artwork... Saber is a mutha f**kin' badass! Looks like a lot went into this piece..."
Can we take from this that you have a working relationship with Lahoda? Or can you explain what you mean by "our problem"
By taking this quote of yours from the Saber topic
"Are the trolls done? OK, we know you don't like the publisher; that's your problem, not ours. Let's talk about the artwork... Saber is a mutha f**kin' badass! Looks like a lot went into this piece..."
Can we take from this that you have a working relationship with Lahoda? Or can you explain what you mean by "our problem"
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JetSet Graffiti, by Damien on Apr 21, 2010 21:47:12 GMT 1, best thing on this thread is burn111s avatar, is that out of a porno?
best thing on this thread is burn111s avatar, is that out of a porno?
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JetSet Graffiti, by inshallah on Apr 21, 2010 21:49:00 GMT 1,
I will keep my nose out as long as you all have kept your nose out. It seems that this entire 13 page session of bitching and moaning is really only about one thing so far:
Poppysunshine says JSG owes him $. JSG says not. We have laws and courts for this sort of PRIVATE dispute. Poppysunshine has indicated that he has been in touch with an attorney, AND the "LAPD art fraud division." It's been months since the LAPD supposedly got involved. If there was any PROOF of wrong-doing, there would have to have been some kind of formal result by now, 3 years after the incident. That's a fair assumption, isn't it?
I'll tell you why I am doing this. Because I have purchased from JSG and found him to provide exceptional prints by the best artists. I have extra free time this week, so I aim to get to the bottom of this. ONCE and FOR ALL. Wouldn't that be nice if we didn't have to come here and be assaulted with this nonsense everytime the guy has a print release?
SO, BACK TO THE LIST:
1. Poppysunshine 2.
I will keep my nose out as long as you all have kept your nose out. It seems that this entire 13 page session of bitching and moaning is really only about one thing so far: Poppysunshine says JSG owes him $. JSG says not. We have laws and courts for this sort of PRIVATE dispute. Poppysunshine has indicated that he has been in touch with an attorney, AND the "LAPD art fraud division." It's been months since the LAPD supposedly got involved. If there was any PROOF of wrong-doing, there would have to have been some kind of formal result by now, 3 years after the incident. That's a fair assumption, isn't it? I'll tell you why I am doing this. Because I have purchased from JSG and found him to provide exceptional prints by the best artists. I have extra free time this week, so I aim to get to the bottom of this. ONCE and FOR ALL. Wouldn't that be nice if we didn't have to come here and be assaulted with this nonsense everytime the guy has a print release? SO, BACK TO THE LIST: 1. Poppysunshine 2.
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JetSet Graffiti, by inshallah on Apr 21, 2010 21:52:45 GMT 1, By taking this quote of yours from the Saber topic "Are the trolls done? OK, we know you don't like the publisher; that's your problem, not ours. Let's talk about the artwork... Saber is a mutha f**kin' badass! Looks like a lot went into this piece..." Can we take from this that you have a working relationship with Lahoda? Or can you explain what you mean by "our problem"
"Your" is referring to the trolls who haunt every single thread where JSG's name appears.
"Our" is referring to myself and the other people who haven't had any problems and will continue to buy from JSG.
Back to the list:
1. Poppysunshine 2.
By taking this quote of yours from the Saber topic "Are the trolls done? OK, we know you don't like the publisher; that's your problem, not ours. Let's talk about the artwork... Saber is a mutha f**kin' badass! Looks like a lot went into this piece..." Can we take from this that you have a working relationship with Lahoda? Or can you explain what you mean by "our problem" "Your" is referring to the trolls who haunt every single thread where JSG's name appears. "Our" is referring to myself and the other people who haven't had any problems and will continue to buy from JSG. Back to the list: 1. Poppysunshine 2.
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JetSet Graffiti, by burn111 on Apr 21, 2010 21:55:05 GMT 1, funny all this comes up when jsg bring out a new print
funny all this comes up when jsg bring out a new print
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JetSet Graffiti, by inshallah on Apr 21, 2010 21:58:29 GMT 1, funny all this comes up when jsg bring out a new print
The hate boils up everytime JSG releases a print! This is no exception! The only difference here is that I am now trying to keep the potentially offensive and damaging comments in check...
Back to the list:
1. Poppysunshine 2.
funny all this comes up when jsg bring out a new print The hate boils up everytime JSG releases a print! This is no exception! The only difference here is that I am now trying to keep the potentially offensive and damaging comments in check... Back to the list: 1. Poppysunshine 2.
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JetSet Graffiti, by burn111 on Apr 21, 2010 21:58:58 GMT 1, I will keep my nose out as long as you all have kept your nose out. It seems that this entire 13 page session of b**ching and moaning is really only about one thing so far: Poppysunshine says JSG owes him $. JSG says not. We have laws and courts for this sort of PRIVATE dispute. Poppysunshine has indicated that he has been in touch with an attorney, AND the "LAPD art fraud division." It's been months since the LAPD supposedly got involved. If there was any PROOF of wrong-doing, there would have to have been some kind of formal result by now, 3 years after the incident. That's a fair assumption, isn't it? I'll tell you why I am doing this. Because I have purchased from JSG and found him to provide exceptional prints by the best artists. I have extra free time this week, so I aim to get to the bottom of this. ONCE and FOR ALL. Wouldn't that be nice if we didn't have to come here and be assaulted with this nonsense everytime the guy has a print release? SO, BACK TO THE LIST: 1. Poppysunshine 2.
as you say QUOTE -
PRIVATE dispute
this has nothing to do with you so i don't see why you should start demanding things to happen just coz you got some time off next week
grow up mate and leave this to the LAPD art fraud division
I will keep my nose out as long as you all have kept your nose out. It seems that this entire 13 page session of b**ching and moaning is really only about one thing so far: Poppysunshine says JSG owes him $. JSG says not. We have laws and courts for this sort of PRIVATE dispute. Poppysunshine has indicated that he has been in touch with an attorney, AND the "LAPD art fraud division." It's been months since the LAPD supposedly got involved. If there was any PROOF of wrong-doing, there would have to have been some kind of formal result by now, 3 years after the incident. That's a fair assumption, isn't it? I'll tell you why I am doing this. Because I have purchased from JSG and found him to provide exceptional prints by the best artists. I have extra free time this week, so I aim to get to the bottom of this. ONCE and FOR ALL. Wouldn't that be nice if we didn't have to come here and be assaulted with this nonsense everytime the guy has a print release? SO, BACK TO THE LIST: 1. Poppysunshine 2. as you say QUOTE - PRIVATE dispute this has nothing to do with you so i don't see why you should start demanding things to happen just coz you got some time off next week grow up mate and leave this to the LAPD art fraud division
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JetSet Graffiti, by inshallah on Apr 21, 2010 22:04:10 GMT 1, I will keep my nose out as long as you all have kept your nose out. It seems that this entire 13 page session of b**ching and moaning is really only about one thing so far: Poppysunshine says JSG owes him $. JSG says not. We have laws and courts for this sort of PRIVATE dispute. Poppysunshine has indicated that he has been in touch with an attorney, AND the "LAPD art fraud division." It's been months since the LAPD supposedly got involved. If there was any PROOF of wrong-doing, there would have to have been some kind of formal result by now, 3 years after the incident. That's a fair assumption, isn't it? I'll tell you why I am doing this. Because I have purchased from JSG and found him to provide exceptional prints by the best artists. I have extra free time this week, so I aim to get to the bottom of this. ONCE and FOR ALL. Wouldn't that be nice if we didn't have to come here and be assaulted with this nonsense everytime the guy has a print release? SO, BACK TO THE LIST: 1. Poppysunshine 2. as you say QUOTE - PRIVATE dispute this has nothing to do with you so i dont see why you should start demanding things to happen just coz you got some time off next week grow up mate and leave this to the LAPD art fraud division
Well then, according to THAT logic, the entire thread should be deleted. If it's a PRIVATE dispute, then why has it been made so public? Perhaps to damage someone's reputation and hard work?
You see, when you leave emotion to the side and let logic take it's course, you are left with a single FACT. ONE guy says he was harmed by JSG 3 years ago.
Back to the list:
1. Poppysunshine 2.
I will keep my nose out as long as you all have kept your nose out. It seems that this entire 13 page session of b**ching and moaning is really only about one thing so far: Poppysunshine says JSG owes him $. JSG says not. We have laws and courts for this sort of PRIVATE dispute. Poppysunshine has indicated that he has been in touch with an attorney, AND the "LAPD art fraud division." It's been months since the LAPD supposedly got involved. If there was any PROOF of wrong-doing, there would have to have been some kind of formal result by now, 3 years after the incident. That's a fair assumption, isn't it? I'll tell you why I am doing this. Because I have purchased from JSG and found him to provide exceptional prints by the best artists. I have extra free time this week, so I aim to get to the bottom of this. ONCE and FOR ALL. Wouldn't that be nice if we didn't have to come here and be assaulted with this nonsense everytime the guy has a print release? SO, BACK TO THE LIST: 1. Poppysunshine 2. as you say QUOTE - PRIVATE dispute this has nothing to do with you so i dont see why you should start demanding things to happen just coz you got some time off next week grow up mate and leave this to the LAPD art fraud division Well then, according to THAT logic, the entire thread should be deleted. If it's a PRIVATE dispute, then why has it been made so public? Perhaps to damage someone's reputation and hard work? You see, when you leave emotion to the side and let logic take it's course, you are left with a single FACT. ONE guy says he was harmed by JSG 3 years ago. Back to the list: 1. Poppysunshine 2.
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JetSet Graffiti, by lifeonwalls on Apr 21, 2010 22:05:05 GMT 1, there's a reaon why he's been banned from countless forums...that should be enough.
If you really want to focus your efforts somewhere, get a copy of the cashed check that JSG gave to Haiti relief as a result of the D*Face sale.
Has it also occurred to you that maybe there just aren't that many peopl who like the stuff that JSG publishes, which is why no one really talks about his releases?
there's a reaon why he's been banned from countless forums...that should be enough.
If you really want to focus your efforts somewhere, get a copy of the cashed check that JSG gave to Haiti relief as a result of the D*Face sale.
Has it also occurred to you that maybe there just aren't that many peopl who like the stuff that JSG publishes, which is why no one really talks about his releases?
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JetSet Graffiti, by Damien on Apr 21, 2010 22:06:31 GMT 1, inshallah is obviously lahoda or his boyfriend or associate he is getting well too involved in this
inshallah is obviously lahoda or his boyfriend or associate he is getting well too involved in this
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JetSet Graffiti, by Poppy Sunshine on Apr 21, 2010 22:07:19 GMT 1, Inshallah, I suggest you read the whole of this thread and you'll know the answers to most of what you are asking.
I suspect you already know the answers as I suspect you either are Lahoda or are very close to him despite your b*llsh*t denial.
This doesn't need you to rake over it. It is in professional and capable hands so why not get your feet up on your days off instead of showing the world how sad you are by getting involved with other peoples sh*t that you know nothing about.
Inshallah, I suggest you read the whole of this thread and you'll know the answers to most of what you are asking.
I suspect you already know the answers as I suspect you either are Lahoda or are very close to him despite your b*llsh*t denial.
This doesn't need you to rake over it. It is in professional and capable hands so why not get your feet up on your days off instead of showing the world how sad you are by getting involved with other peoples sh*t that you know nothing about.
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JetSet Graffiti, by lifeonwalls on Apr 21, 2010 22:09:57 GMT 1, inshallah is obviously lahoda or his boyfriend or associate he is getting well too involved in this
No, he's just upset that the Saber print(s) that he dropped $300+ aren't sold out yet.
inshallah is obviously lahoda or his boyfriend or associate he is getting well too involved in this No, he's just upset that the Saber print(s) that he dropped $300+ aren't sold out yet.
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JetSet Graffiti, by bigtlt on Apr 21, 2010 22:10:40 GMT 1, Just don't understand why someone that claims not to know Lahoda, would use his week off work to try and defend a total stranger! If you like the art he sells, buy it (at your own risk), why do you need to get involved in a futile attempt to clear the man's name unless you also have something to gain from it?
Do you believe it is good practice to sell prints, albeit supposedly for charity, without first consulting the artist.
D* himself has confirmed he knew nothing of these other prints
Just don't understand why someone that claims not to know Lahoda, would use his week off work to try and defend a total stranger! If you like the art he sells, buy it (at your own risk), why do you need to get involved in a futile attempt to clear the man's name unless you also have something to gain from it?
Do you believe it is good practice to sell prints, albeit supposedly for charity, without first consulting the artist.
D* himself has confirmed he knew nothing of these other prints
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