damullae
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Should my NBG framing go back? , by damullae on Jan 29, 2010 6:24:27 GMT 1, Hi all,
I have just had a print framed and wanted your opinions.
Its NBG and looks great IMO โ black frame and boarder and am very happy however the framing is a little out and part of me wants to take it back and other part thinking I am being analโฆ
Canโt put photos as donโt have camera with me (and perhaps wouldnt be noticable in a photos anyway) butโฆ
The black boarder down the bottom is 7.5 cm and all 3 other boarders are 6.5 cm!! (distance between the frame and the print) It is noticeable enough for me to get my ruler out and check and gives the print a bit of a disorientated feel like its getting narrower at the topโฆ
Having said all that I have answered my own question havenโt I? has to go backโฆ
Guess itโs fair to expect it to be evenly framed yeah? and will f#$k with my OCD if I donโt get it fixedโฆ
Edit: furthermore - the left hand side of print isnt flat... its wobbley.... dont like to complain/make a fuss - but its going back!!!
Hi all,
I have just had a print framed and wanted your opinions.
Its NBG and looks great IMO โ black frame and boarder and am very happy however the framing is a little out and part of me wants to take it back and other part thinking I am being analโฆ
Canโt put photos as donโt have camera with me (and perhaps wouldnt be noticable in a photos anyway) butโฆ
The black boarder down the bottom is 7.5 cm and all 3 other boarders are 6.5 cm!! (distance between the frame and the print) It is noticeable enough for me to get my ruler out and check and gives the print a bit of a disorientated feel like its getting narrower at the topโฆ
Having said all that I have answered my own question havenโt I? has to go backโฆ
Guess itโs fair to expect it to be evenly framed yeah? and will f#$k with my OCD if I donโt get it fixedโฆ
Edit: furthermore - the left hand side of print isnt flat... its wobbley.... dont like to complain/make a fuss - but its going back!!!
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hlarmy
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Should my NBG framing go back? , by hlarmy on Jan 29, 2010 8:12:27 GMT 1, Unless it was done on the cheap, I would certainly take it back. Not that I want to f&*k with your OCD anymore but I would be more concerned of the quality of the framing, especially the more important parts of the framejob you can't see. It's an expensive print that could well be sought after in years to come so I would make sure it's done to a high standard personally...
Unless it was done on the cheap, I would certainly take it back. Not that I want to f&*k with your OCD anymore but I would be more concerned of the quality of the framing, especially the more important parts of the framejob you can't see. It's an expensive print that could well be sought after in years to come so I would make sure it's done to a high standard personally... |
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Should my NBG framing go back? , by howlinhooker on Jan 29, 2010 9:22:43 GMT 1, send it back if your not happy....................it will always play on your mind else !!!!! the n b g seem to be taking ages to flatten out well mine is and its been in a folder since day 1 !!!!!!!
send it back if your not happy....................it will always play on your mind else !!!!! the n b g seem to be taking ages to flatten out well mine is and its been in a folder since day 1 !!!!!!!
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spirit
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Should my NBG framing go back? , by spirit on Jan 29, 2010 10:31:44 GMT 1, a lot of framers (particularly older ones) will naturally make the bottom border larger unless you tell then otherwise - so I should think it was deliberate rather than accidental.
a lot of framers (particularly older ones) will naturally make the bottom border larger unless you tell then otherwise - so I should think it was deliberate rather than accidental.
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spaceshrew
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Should my NBG framing go back? , by spaceshrew on Jan 29, 2010 10:39:20 GMT 1, You might consider giving it to another trusted framer, just to check it's been done correctly.
I agree with โhlarmyโ Iโd be more concerned about the quality of the bits you canโt see.
The first print I had framed, was window mounted, the Kilburn based framer used double sided
tape on the front of the print to stick it to the mount!!! The only reason I had it checked by another framer,
was because the original framer left his thumb print on the print. The wonky frame IMO sounds slap dash.
In the end Gary โMFMโ sorted it out for me, and it now looks great.
You might consider giving it to another trusted framer, just to check it's been done correctly.
I agree with โhlarmyโ Iโd be more concerned about the quality of the bits you canโt see.
The first print I had framed, was window mounted, the Kilburn based framer used double sided
tape on the front of the print to stick it to the mount!!! The only reason I had it checked by another framer,
was because the original framer left his thumb print on the print. The wonky frame IMO sounds slap dash.
In the end Gary โMFMโ sorted it out for me, and it now looks great.
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bollockchops
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Should my NBG framing go back? , by bollockchops on Jan 29, 2010 10:46:23 GMT 1, Hi all, I have just had a print framed and wanted your opinions. Its NBG and looks great IMO โ black frame and boarder and am very happy however the framing is a little out and part of me wants to take it back and other part thinking I am being analโฆ Canโt put photos as donโt have camera with me (and perhaps wouldnt be noticable in a photos anyway) butโฆ The black boarder down the bottom is 7.5 cm and all 3 other boarders are 6.5 cm!! (distance between the frame and the print) It is noticeable enough for me to get my ruler out and check and gives the print a bit of a disorientated feel like its getting narrower at the topโฆ Having said all that I have answered my own question havenโt I? has to go backโฆ Guess itโs fair to expect it to be evenly framed yeah? and will f#$k with my OCD if I donโt get it fixedโฆ Edit: furthermore - the left hand side of print isnt flat... its wobbley.... dont like to complain/make a fuss - but its going back!!!
Take it back. Get money back. Take to another framers
Hi all, I have just had a print framed and wanted your opinions. Its NBG and looks great IMO โ black frame and boarder and am very happy however the framing is a little out and part of me wants to take it back and other part thinking I am being analโฆ Canโt put photos as donโt have camera with me (and perhaps wouldnt be noticable in a photos anyway) butโฆ The black boarder down the bottom is 7.5 cm and all 3 other boarders are 6.5 cm!! (distance between the frame and the print) It is noticeable enough for me to get my ruler out and check and gives the print a bit of a disorientated feel like its getting narrower at the topโฆ Having said all that I have answered my own question havenโt I? has to go backโฆ Guess itโs fair to expect it to be evenly framed yeah? and will f#$k with my OCD if I donโt get it fixedโฆ Edit: furthermore - the left hand side of print isnt flat... its wobbley.... dont like to complain/make a fuss - but its going back!!! Take it back. Get money back. Take to another framers |
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kennas
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Should my NBG framing go back? , by kennas on Jan 29, 2010 11:13:33 GMT 1, Spirit is correct on this. A lot of old school framers always leave a larger margin at the bottom of frames, it is something to do with the aesthetics on the eye. That said if you are not happy with it, take it back!
Spirit is correct on this. A lot of old school framers always leave a larger margin at the bottom of frames, it is something to do with the aesthetics on the eye. That said if you are not happy with it, take it back!
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Rsyok
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Should my NBG framing go back? , by Rsyok on Jan 29, 2010 11:21:32 GMT 1, The mount sizing is compensation that a lot of framers do, but it doesnt make too much sense on a square print. Id be more concerned on the non flat area, take it back and talk through the details. It wouldnt be too much trouble for the framer to square it up(foc).
The mount sizing is compensation that a lot of framers do, but it doesnt make too much sense on a square print. Id be more concerned on the non flat area, take it back and talk through the details. It wouldnt be too much trouble for the framer to square it up(foc).
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etched
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Should my NBG framing go back? , by etched on Jan 29, 2010 12:54:55 GMT 1, i quote " some people prefer windowmounts to be wider at the bottom, because an optical illusion makes the bottom edge appear narrower than the other three"
on that size the framer should of done .5cm instead of 1cm, obviously the 1cm is too much for the customer and its too noticable
i quote " some people prefer windowmounts to be wider at the bottom, because an optical illusion makes the bottom edge appear narrower than the other three"
on that size the framer should of done .5cm instead of 1cm, obviously the 1cm is too much for the customer and its too noticable
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Should my NBG framing go back? , by Mister Frame Man on Jan 29, 2010 13:03:48 GMT 1, Like one or two have mentioned, it used to be the "done" thing to weight a mount at the bottom and I still have customers coming in requesting this - That said, not many.
The framer should have asked if you wanted the mount weighted but I wouldnt say he has done anything malicious. He should re mount if you ask him but he wont be happy as he will also have to make a new size frame to fit, therefore losing any profit he might have made!
Any problems I would be more than happy to help! 
Like one or two have mentioned, it used to be the "done" thing to weight a mount at the bottom and I still have customers coming in requesting this - That said, not many. The framer should have asked if you wanted the mount weighted but I wouldnt say he has done anything malicious. He should re mount if you ask him but he wont be happy as he will also have to make a new size frame to fit, therefore losing any profit he might have made! Any problems I would be more than happy to help! |
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Should my NBG framing go back? , by Coach on Jan 29, 2010 18:42:33 GMT 1, Some of my larger (read taller) pices are done with a larger border on the bottom. Until I stared using MFM.
It's done because of perspective - when hung, often the top border is further away from the eye and is at more of an angle, so when hung, the theory is that top and bottom borders "appear" to be the same.
I would try hanging it first to see if it still looks wrong.
That said, something as precious as this should be just how you want it. Iwould also want the wrinkles sorted, if I were you.
I would have no hesitation in recommending MFM, who has done lots of pieces, never any complaints.
c
Some of my larger (read taller) pices are done with a larger border on the bottom. Until I stared using MFM.
It's done because of perspective - when hung, often the top border is further away from the eye and is at more of an angle, so when hung, the theory is that top and bottom borders "appear" to be the same.
I would try hanging it first to see if it still looks wrong.
That said, something as precious as this should be just how you want it. Iwould also want the wrinkles sorted, if I were you.
I would have no hesitation in recommending MFM, who has done lots of pieces, never any complaints.
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damullae
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Should my NBG framing go back? , by damullae on Jan 30, 2010 4:46:21 GMT 1, Cheers all - really appreciate the info.
I did call them on Friday and they explained that bottom is sometimes a bit larger... I can accept this but assumed that it would have been in the middle...
The left hand side needs to be sorted though... They initially suggested we glu it down to keep flat but this didnt sound right.. they explained that can use tape on the outside but may not be 100% flat... BUT... am sure that there a millions of valueable frame jobs which are flat and not glued... you cant be gluing valuable pieces (i assume)
Anyway - will take it back and have a chat with them. They are very customer service orientiated so will want to help.
I am in Perth and cant use MFM unfortunately. Another reason why they rushed job perhaps... dont know Banksy and guess without that knowledge its easy to think that a slap bang job would do...
ps - you really need non - reflective glass hey.. my fault there - not noticed it so much with other pprints I have had done.
Merci
Cheers all - really appreciate the info.
I did call them on Friday and they explained that bottom is sometimes a bit larger... I can accept this but assumed that it would have been in the middle...
The left hand side needs to be sorted though... They initially suggested we glu it down to keep flat but this didnt sound right.. they explained that can use tape on the outside but may not be 100% flat... BUT... am sure that there a millions of valueable frame jobs which are flat and not glued... you cant be gluing valuable pieces (i assume)
Anyway - will take it back and have a chat with them. They are very customer service orientiated so will want to help.
I am in Perth and cant use MFM unfortunately. Another reason why they rushed job perhaps... dont know Banksy and guess without that knowledge its easy to think that a slap bang job would do...
ps - you really need non - reflective glass hey.. my fault there - not noticed it so much with other pprints I have had done.
Merci
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kennas
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Should my NBG framing go back? , by kennas on Jan 30, 2010 13:24:31 GMT 1, Now that chat about glue and tape is VERY worrying. No where near!
Now that chat about glue and tape is VERY worrying. No where near!
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damullae
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Should my NBG framing go back? , by damullae on Jan 30, 2010 17:09:24 GMT 1, Now that chat about glue and tape is VERY worrying. No where near!
f@#k... need to look into this... they experts so taking their advice... have to see on Monday how its been put together....
Now that chat about glue and tape is VERY worrying. No where near! f@#k... need to look into this... they experts so taking their advice... have to see on Monday how its been put together.... |
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curiousgeorge
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Should my NBG framing go back? , by curiousgeorge on Jan 31, 2010 15:45:21 GMT 1, No offense but being a framer does not make them an expert
Analogy guy that cooks burgers in a van, and a Michelin rated chef- worlds apart
First question should always be " I have something very valuable to frame, are you insured against damage or poor framing techniques?"
I speak from bitter experience maybe 4 years ago, since then I've educated myself and do my own framing
No offense but being a framer does not make them an expert
Analogy guy that cooks burgers in a van, and a Michelin rated chef- worlds apart
First question should always be " I have something very valuable to frame, are you insured against damage or poor framing techniques?"
I speak from bitter experience maybe 4 years ago, since then I've educated myself and do my own framing
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howlinjack
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Should my NBG framing go back? , by howlinjack on Jan 31, 2010 16:41:14 GMT 1, No offense but being a framer does not make them an expert Analogy guy that cooks burgers in a van, and a Michelin rated chef- worlds apart First question should always be " I have something very valuable to frame, are you insured against damage or poor framing techniques?" I speak from bitter experience maybe 4 years ago, since then I've educated myself and do my own framing
not bad at it as well
No offense but being a framer does not make them an expert Analogy guy that cooks burgers in a van, and a Michelin rated chef- worlds apart First question should always be " I have something very valuable to frame, are you insured against damage or poor framing techniques?" I speak from bitter experience maybe 4 years ago, since then I've educated myself and do my own framing not bad at it as well |
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curiousgeorge
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Should my NBG framing go back? , by curiousgeorge on Jan 31, 2010 19:35:01 GMT 1, No offense but being a framer does not make them an expert Analogy guy that cooks burgers in a van, and a Michelin rated chef- worlds apart First question should always be " I have something very valuable to frame, are you insured against damage or poor framing techniques?" I speak from bitter experience maybe 4 years ago, since then I've educated myself and do my own framing not bad at it as well
Simples, treat every piece as if it's my own. Even if the image is not square (cough cough) ;D
No offense but being a framer does not make them an expert Analogy guy that cooks burgers in a van, and a Michelin rated chef- worlds apart First question should always be " I have something very valuable to frame, are you insured against damage or poor framing techniques?" I speak from bitter experience maybe 4 years ago, since then I've educated myself and do my own framing not bad at it as well Simples, treat every piece as if it's my own. Even if the image is not square (cough cough) ;D |
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Should my NBG framing go back? , by shinybrite on Jul 7, 2010 21:23:14 GMT 1, It's not 'Old School' to weight the mount at the bottom, it's the best thing to do by far. If you don't weight, even just a little, the top border WILL appear to be wider, and this doesn't feel comfortable on the eye - simples!
It's not 'Old School' to weight the mount at the bottom, it's the best thing to do by far. If you don't weight, even just a little, the top border WILL appear to be wider, and this doesn't feel comfortable on the eye - simples!
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dsd
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Should my NBG framing go back? , by dsd on Feb 13, 2014 1:30:57 GMT 1, Just been to the framers today and he said to weight mount it top and bottom and imo it look far better too .They have been doing it for hundreds of yeats for a reason .
Just been to the framers today and he said to weight mount it top and bottom and imo it look far better too .They have been doing it for hundreds of yeats for a reason .
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