afroken
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Bidendum - The New Way to Buy and Sell Banksys, by afroken on Oct 29, 2008 14:36:56 GMT 1, I fundamentally disagree that you will get a better price with this service. eBay by definition is risky so people are psychologically less inclined to go all the way due to risk. The best prices are to be had on eBay and, if you use your head, you can protect yourself againsy fraud on eBay. It's an uncomfortable tension but it works. To make that one of your selling points is naive. I think this is a good idea but you have done a very poor job of positioning it and of providing any reason at all why people should trust you with their money.
I also think that the fact that you are an existing member of this forum who has taken the time to delete their old posts and hide their forum identity does nothing to inspire any confidence whatsoever in your honesty, transparency or trustworthiness.
You had one shot at launching this sevice on the forum and you've screwed it up. In summary, nice try - rubbish shot.
I fundamentally disagree that you will get a better price with this service. eBay by definition is risky so people are psychologically less inclined to go all the way due to risk. The best prices are to be had on eBay and, if you use your head, you can protect yourself againsy fraud on eBay. It's an uncomfortable tension but it works. To make that one of your selling points is naive. I think this is a good idea but you have done a very poor job of positioning it and of providing any reason at all why people should trust you with their money.
I also think that the fact that you are an existing member of this forum who has taken the time to delete their old posts and hide their forum identity does nothing to inspire any confidence whatsoever in your honesty, transparency or trustworthiness.
You had one shot at launching this sevice on the forum and you've screwed it up. In summary, nice try - rubbish shot.
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Bidendum - The New Way to Buy and Sell Banksys, by Daniel Silk on Oct 29, 2008 14:41:11 GMT 1, Please respond ' ALIBERTINE' to the unfounded claims you have made against Auction Saboteur !? Also can i ask is this service being endorsed by Banksy.info (i assume there must have been discussion behind the scenes to get the green star )? Are you saying that you have the support of P.O.W. and pest control in this venture?
Nothing is endorsed by the forum. All Artists, Galleries, Businesses, and Members are responsible for themselves.
Please respond ' ALIBERTINE' to the unfounded claims you have made against Auction Saboteur !? Also can i ask is this service being endorsed by Banksy.info (i assume there must have been discussion behind the scenes to get the green star )? Are you saying that you have the support of P.O.W. and pest control in this venture? Nothing is endorsed by the forum. All Artists, Galleries, Businesses, and Members are responsible for themselves.
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Heavyconsumer
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Bidendum - The New Way to Buy and Sell Banksys, by Heavyconsumer on Oct 29, 2008 14:50:20 GMT 1, Sfdoddsy has asked a very important question which is not being answered directly imo. Anyone facilitating transactions in such a manner MUST be able to prove a degree of solvency to be considered credible. Simply repeating that no funds are taken until the print is checked and authenticated, is not adequate, as there can and will be instances where prints are sent in mint condition and arrive in something other, or possibly even get lost in transit. In this instance, clearly the buyer WILL dispute and recover their payment. Where are the guarantees for the seller if their mint print becomes damaged or lost? How do people know that Bibendum/Alibertine is liquid to cover such instances? Saying there is insurance cover is OK, but insured by whom and what are the terms? How long will disputes take to resolve? And what if it's the company's 1st transaction and it's a GWB traded for ยฃ12k? Will Bibendum go pop or simply say, we're not responsible, take it up with the courier company? If a handling fee is taken, then taken with that fee needs to be responsibility for transactions that go wrong as well as those which go smoothly i.e. the guarantee of ability to cover sellers' potential losses, regardless of insurance claim outcomes and the promise to handle all claims on behalf of the seller.
This venture could work imo and be a very usefl tool, but it requires the backing/partnership, in writing of either PCO, POW, Laz or a known financial organisation to vouch for the firm's financial integrity. Without something along these lines, I think that only a fool would send in their signed Banksy print. There are plenty of Ts and Cs which seem to clear Bibendum of any and all responsibility, but what it's offering is to take responsibility in return for 9.9% + costs of shipping and certification. At this stage, more REAL assurances need to be given imo.
The images missed were the LA show prints, Sale Ends and Capitalism. But all you had to do was click the drop-down menu at the bottom of this page to see that.
Sfdoddsy has asked a very important question which is not being answered directly imo. Anyone facilitating transactions in such a manner MUST be able to prove a degree of solvency to be considered credible. Simply repeating that no funds are taken until the print is checked and authenticated, is not adequate, as there can and will be instances where prints are sent in mint condition and arrive in something other, or possibly even get lost in transit. In this instance, clearly the buyer WILL dispute and recover their payment. Where are the guarantees for the seller if their mint print becomes damaged or lost? How do people know that Bibendum/Alibertine is liquid to cover such instances? Saying there is insurance cover is OK, but insured by whom and what are the terms? How long will disputes take to resolve? And what if it's the company's 1st transaction and it's a GWB traded for ยฃ12k? Will Bibendum go pop or simply say, we're not responsible, take it up with the courier company? If a handling fee is taken, then taken with that fee needs to be responsibility for transactions that go wrong as well as those which go smoothly i.e. the guarantee of ability to cover sellers' potential losses, regardless of insurance claim outcomes and the promise to handle all claims on behalf of the seller.
This venture could work imo and be a very usefl tool, but it requires the backing/partnership, in writing of either PCO, POW, Laz or a known financial organisation to vouch for the firm's financial integrity. Without something along these lines, I think that only a fool would send in their signed Banksy print. There are plenty of Ts and Cs which seem to clear Bibendum of any and all responsibility, but what it's offering is to take responsibility in return for 9.9% + costs of shipping and certification. At this stage, more REAL assurances need to be given imo.
The images missed were the LA show prints, Sale Ends and Capitalism. But all you had to do was click the drop-down menu at the bottom of this page to see that.
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Heavyconsumer
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Bidendum - The New Way to Buy and Sell Banksys, by Heavyconsumer on Oct 29, 2008 14:55:17 GMT 1, I fundamentally disagree that you will get a better price with this service. eBay by definition is risky so people are psychologically less inclined to go all the way due to risk. The best prices are to be had on eBay and, if you use your head, you can protect yourself againsy fraud on eBay. It's an uncomfortable tension but it works. To make that one of your selling points is naive. I think this is a good idea but you have done a very poor job of positioning it and of providing any reason at all why people should trust you with their money. I also think that the fact that you are an existing member of this forum who has taken the time to delete their old posts and hide their forum identity does nothing to inspire any confidence whatsoever in your honesty, transparency or trustworthiness.You had one shot at launching this sevice on the forum and you've screwed it up. In summary, nice try - rubbish shot.
Yup, this is a big problem for me too! It generates a lot of questions regarding personal integrity imo.
I fundamentally disagree that you will get a better price with this service. eBay by definition is risky so people are psychologically less inclined to go all the way due to risk. The best prices are to be had on eBay and, if you use your head, you can protect yourself againsy fraud on eBay. It's an uncomfortable tension but it works. To make that one of your selling points is naive. I think this is a good idea but you have done a very poor job of positioning it and of providing any reason at all why people should trust you with their money. I also think that the fact that you are an existing member of this forum who has taken the time to delete their old posts and hide their forum identity does nothing to inspire any confidence whatsoever in your honesty, transparency or trustworthiness.You had one shot at launching this sevice on the forum and you've screwed it up. In summary, nice try - rubbish shot. Yup, this is a big problem for me too! It generates a lot of questions regarding personal integrity imo.
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Bidendum - The New Way to Buy and Sell Banksys, by They call me Stephen on Oct 29, 2008 15:00:42 GMT 1, I can't take any venture of this kind seriously when the author in question (aka alibertine) posted threads such as this one where he believed banksy was 'over' due to numerical reasons. It's a shame his threads have been deleted as they were gems but thank god for the quote tool
banksyforum.proboards82.com/index.cgi?action=display&board=general&thread=20933&page=1
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Bidendum - The New Way to Buy and Sell Banksys, by wiz on Oct 29, 2008 15:07:04 GMT 1, Good find. What theycallmestephen said.
Good find. What theycallmestephen said.
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Heavyconsumer
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Bidendum - The New Way to Buy and Sell Banksys, by Heavyconsumer on Oct 29, 2008 15:12:37 GMT 1, "Sorry guys but its all OVER, FINNISHED, CAPUSH!"
no wonder there are a few typos on the site! What's Capush then, is that a suberb of Helsinki?
"Sorry guys but its all OVER, FINNISHED, CAPUSH!"
no wonder there are a few typos on the site! What's Capush then, is that a suberb of Helsinki?
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dotdot
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Bidendum - The New Way to Buy and Sell Banksys, by dotdot on Oct 29, 2008 15:15:13 GMT 1, started off well.
spotted some typos asked some questions....
waited a while saw the same questions again from others....
read some more... thought a while then concluded....
nah - i think i'll take my chances with forum members or ebay...or AS...
the story about auction sab - well not sure if it's true - however on review - failing to answer some questions strikes me as ill thought out.
(you can't pick and choose which questions you answer - that's not how things work in business if that's what you wish to setup..)
I'm out ... (oh and i couldn't find a decent DD pic from harry and paul - can someone put one in this thread for me ? )
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started off well. spotted some typos asked some questions.... waited a while saw the same questions again from others.... read some more... thought a while then concluded.... nah - i think i'll take my chances with forum members or ebay...or AS... the story about auction sab - well not sure if it's true - however on review - failing to answer some questions strikes me as ill thought out. (you can't pick and choose which questions you answer - that's not how things work in business if that's what you wish to setup..) I'm out ... (oh and i couldn't find a decent DD pic from harry and paul - can someone put one in this thread for me ? ) ..
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Bidendum - The New Way to Buy and Sell Banksys, by wiz on Oct 29, 2008 15:18:14 GMT 1, Here you go DotDot. Its "Her" though.
Here you go DotDot. Its "Her" though.
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dmandpenfold
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Bidendum - The New Way to Buy and Sell Banksys, by dmandpenfold on Oct 29, 2008 15:22:48 GMT 1, the grumpy one
the grumpy one
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dotdot
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Bidendum - The New Way to Buy and Sell Banksys, by dotdot on Oct 29, 2008 15:33:36 GMT 1, cheers wiz that all from me on this one...
cheers wiz that all from me on this one...
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Bidendum
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Bidendum - The New Way to Buy and Sell Banksys, by Bidendum on Oct 29, 2008 15:34:15 GMT 1, "1. Do all sellers have to give you money to be able to list? If not how can you take ยฃ20 from their account?"
All sellers need to deposit a ยฃ20 deposit credit when listing the print.
2. If I put a bid in for a print, and then it is matched by a seller who then changes his mind and pulls out is there any recourse on my part? For example with eBay I can leave bad feedback
You will not be charged anything for this as the funds are only taken once the print has been received and authenticated,
3. What happens with the above 2 points if it is the buyer who pulls out?
Once the buyer has placed a bid they are contractually obliged to continue with the purchase, the funds in their account are placed on hold until the print has been received and verified.
"1. Do all sellers have to give you money to be able to list? If not how can you take ยฃ20 from their account?"
All sellers need to deposit a ยฃ20 deposit credit when listing the print.
2. If I put a bid in for a print, and then it is matched by a seller who then changes his mind and pulls out is there any recourse on my part? For example with eBay I can leave bad feedback
You will not be charged anything for this as the funds are only taken once the print has been received and authenticated,
3. What happens with the above 2 points if it is the buyer who pulls out?
Once the buyer has placed a bid they are contractually obliged to continue with the purchase, the funds in their account are placed on hold until the print has been received and verified.
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Heavyconsumer
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Bidendum - The New Way to Buy and Sell Banksys, by Heavyconsumer on Oct 29, 2008 15:41:53 GMT 1, 2. If I put a bid in for a print, and then it is matched by a seller who then changes his mind and pulls out is there any recourse on my part? For example with eBay I can leave bad feedback
You will not be charged anything for this as the funds are only taken once the print has been received and authenticated,
You're not answering his question. Look up the meaning of recourse. I think that's where you're going wrong. He wants to know if he has any rights to compensation/complaint/affect the seller in some way, as the buyer, if the seller pulls out after a price is agreed.
2. If I put a bid in for a print, and then it is matched by a seller who then changes his mind and pulls out is there any recourse on my part? For example with eBay I can leave bad feedback
You will not be charged anything for this as the funds are only taken once the print has been received and authenticated,
You're not answering his question. Look up the meaning of recourse. I think that's where you're going wrong. He wants to know if he has any rights to compensation/complaint/affect the seller in some way, as the buyer, if the seller pulls out after a price is agreed.
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Bidendum
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Bidendum - The New Way to Buy and Sell Banksys, by Bidendum on Oct 29, 2008 15:46:22 GMT 1, "Sfdoddsy has asked a very important question which is not being answered directly imo. Anyone facilitating transactions in such a manner MUST be able to prove a degree of solvency to be considered credible. Simply repeating that no funds are taken until the print is checked and authenticated, is not adequate, as there can and will be instances where prints are sent in mint condition and arrive in something other, or possibly even get lost in transit. In this instance, clearly the buyer WILL dispute and recover their payment. Where are the guarantees for the seller if their mint print becomes damaged or lost?"
The funds, in this instance, will have already been paid to the sellers account. They will have completed their part of the deal by posting their authentic print to the Bidendum office.
"Sfdoddsy has asked a very important question which is not being answered directly imo. Anyone facilitating transactions in such a manner MUST be able to prove a degree of solvency to be considered credible. Simply repeating that no funds are taken until the print is checked and authenticated, is not adequate, as there can and will be instances where prints are sent in mint condition and arrive in something other, or possibly even get lost in transit. In this instance, clearly the buyer WILL dispute and recover their payment. Where are the guarantees for the seller if their mint print becomes damaged or lost?"
The funds, in this instance, will have already been paid to the sellers account. They will have completed their part of the deal by posting their authentic print to the Bidendum office.
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Bidendum
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Bidendum - The New Way to Buy and Sell Banksys, by Bidendum on Oct 29, 2008 15:50:17 GMT 1, Saying there is insurance cover is OK, but insured by whom and what are the terms? How long will disputes take to resolve? And what if it's the company's 1st transaction and it's a GWB traded for ยฃ12k? Will Bibendum go pop or simply say, we're not responsible, take it up with the courier company? If a handling fee is taken, then taken with that fee needs to be responsibility for transactions that go wrong as well as those which go smoothly i.e. the guarantee of ability to cover sellers' potential losses, regardless of insurance claim outcomes and the promise to handle all claims on behalf of the seller.
"This venture could work imo and be a very usefl tool, but it requires the backing/partnership, in writing of either PCO, POW, Laz or a known financial organisation to vouch for the firm's financial integrity. Without something along these lines, I think that only a fool would send in their signed Banksy print. There are plenty of Ts and Cs which seem to clear Bibendum of any and all responsibility, but what it's offering is to take responsibility in return for 9.9% + costs of shipping and certification. At this stage, more REAL assurances need to be given imo. "
As each delivery will be insured to the prints full value, damage or loss in transit will not be an issue and can be claimed against the courier company. Please be assured that only mint condition prints will leave the offices of Bidendum to buyerโs addresses.
Saying there is insurance cover is OK, but insured by whom and what are the terms? How long will disputes take to resolve? And what if it's the company's 1st transaction and it's a GWB traded for ยฃ12k? Will Bibendum go pop or simply say, we're not responsible, take it up with the courier company? If a handling fee is taken, then taken with that fee needs to be responsibility for transactions that go wrong as well as those which go smoothly i.e. the guarantee of ability to cover sellers' potential losses, regardless of insurance claim outcomes and the promise to handle all claims on behalf of the seller.
"This venture could work imo and be a very usefl tool, but it requires the backing/partnership, in writing of either PCO, POW, Laz or a known financial organisation to vouch for the firm's financial integrity. Without something along these lines, I think that only a fool would send in their signed Banksy print. There are plenty of Ts and Cs which seem to clear Bibendum of any and all responsibility, but what it's offering is to take responsibility in return for 9.9% + costs of shipping and certification. At this stage, more REAL assurances need to be given imo. "
As each delivery will be insured to the prints full value, damage or loss in transit will not be an issue and can be claimed against the courier company. Please be assured that only mint condition prints will leave the offices of Bidendum to buyerโs addresses.
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Bidendum
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Bidendum - The New Way to Buy and Sell Banksys, by Bidendum on Oct 29, 2008 15:50:33 GMT 1, "The images missed were the LA show prints, Sale Ends and Capitalism. But all you had to do was click the drop-down menu at the bottom of this page to see that."
These will be added ASAP
"The images missed were the LA show prints, Sale Ends and Capitalism. But all you had to do was click the drop-down menu at the bottom of this page to see that."
These will be added ASAP
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Existencil
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Bidendum - The New Way to Buy and Sell Banksys, by Existencil on Oct 29, 2008 15:51:11 GMT 1, 10% commission?
So if I sell my print for ยฃ2000, your going to take ยฃ200?
Mmmmmm...
10% commission?
So if I sell my print for ยฃ2000, your going to take ยฃ200?
Mmmmmm...
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Bidendum - The New Way to Buy and Sell Banksys, by manchestermike on Oct 29, 2008 16:01:04 GMT 1, Ok, I registered as a buyer to see how easy the system is, I try and put an offer on the table for a print and get this message:
Authorization Payment Required Before we can start searching for a seller for you, we need to take an authorization to ensure you have sufficient funds to cover the purchase.
Your card will not be charged until we have recieved the print from the Seller and completed its authentication.
Please click the button below to make payment securely using PayPal.
So, in order to look for a print I need to have the funds to cover that print sat in my paypal account???
Please tell me I'm wrong... if I'm not please tell me you're joking
Ok, I registered as a buyer to see how easy the system is, I try and put an offer on the table for a print and get this message:
Authorization Payment Required Before we can start searching for a seller for you, we need to take an authorization to ensure you have sufficient funds to cover the purchase.
Your card will not be charged until we have recieved the print from the Seller and completed its authentication.
Please click the button below to make payment securely using PayPal.
So, in order to look for a print I need to have the funds to cover that print sat in my paypal account???
Please tell me I'm wrong... if I'm not please tell me you're joking
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Bidendum
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Bidendum - The New Way to Buy and Sell Banksys, by Bidendum on Oct 29, 2008 16:02:29 GMT 1, Hi Forum Members I can understand your hesitancy in this matter. Bidendum is a new site and does not operate in the same manor as previous sites but we do believe that the process involved is air tight. The transactional security offered along with authentic provenance of prints should help us change the present market.
Hi Forum Members I can understand your hesitancy in this matter. Bidendum is a new site and does not operate in the same manor as previous sites but we do believe that the process involved is air tight. The transactional security offered along with authentic provenance of prints should help us change the present market.
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dmandpenfold
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Bidendum - The New Way to Buy and Sell Banksys, by dmandpenfold on Oct 29, 2008 16:03:08 GMT 1, 10% commission? So if I sell my print for ยฃ2000, your going to take ยฃ200? Mmmmmm...
or if i sell my original for 20k you're going to take 2k
mmmmm.... indeed.
It is quite a hefty mark up. Perhaps you should really have a sliding scale dependent on the value of the piece and a minimum charge for the service, just a suggestion
10% commission? So if I sell my print for ยฃ2000, your going to take ยฃ200? Mmmmmm... or if i sell my original for 20k you're going to take 2k mmmmm.... indeed. It is quite a hefty mark up. Perhaps you should really have a sliding scale dependent on the value of the piece and a minimum charge for the service, just a suggestion
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Heavyconsumer
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Bidendum - The New Way to Buy and Sell Banksys, by Heavyconsumer on Oct 29, 2008 16:03:19 GMT 1, I'm definitely out!
So far I've completed purchases, sales and swaps with around 8 forum members and never had a problem that wasn't easily resolved with a little mutual goodwill and understanding. I see no benefit at all in paying you 10%. However I concede, that IF you were backed in writing by PCO, POW, Laz, or a known, reputable financial organisation (not just as one of their merchants) I would happily reconsider my point of view. Without this, with respect, you're nobody and you need to think about working hard to establish your credibility BEFORE asking 10% for your limited services imho.
I'm definitely out!
So far I've completed purchases, sales and swaps with around 8 forum members and never had a problem that wasn't easily resolved with a little mutual goodwill and understanding. I see no benefit at all in paying you 10%. However I concede, that IF you were backed in writing by PCO, POW, Laz, or a known, reputable financial organisation (not just as one of their merchants) I would happily reconsider my point of view. Without this, with respect, you're nobody and you need to think about working hard to establish your credibility BEFORE asking 10% for your limited services imho.
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Heavyconsumer
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Bidendum - The New Way to Buy and Sell Banksys, by Heavyconsumer on Oct 29, 2008 16:07:05 GMT 1, and you still haven't answered SPQR's pertinent question.
It IS pertinent, as you've previously made public accusations against a company you wish now to outperform in a market where they are better established than you.
and you still haven't answered SPQR's pertinent question.
It IS pertinent, as you've previously made public accusations against a company you wish now to outperform in a market where they are better established than you.
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dmandpenfold
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Bidendum - The New Way to Buy and Sell Banksys, by dmandpenfold on Oct 29, 2008 16:09:24 GMT 1, speaking of accusations...JBOY
all banksy prints need pest control now in my opinion as they are not trusted, there is even fakes floating around from members of this place from d*face which is also worrying Which members are selling fake D*face JBOY, perhaps you could advise us so we can avoid them
speaking of accusations...JBOY all banksy prints need pest control now in my opinion as they are not trusted, there is even fakes floating around from members of this place from d*face which is also worrying Which members are selling fake D*face JBOY, perhaps you could advise us so we can avoid them
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Bidendum
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Bidendum - The New Way to Buy and Sell Banksys, by Bidendum on Oct 29, 2008 16:13:02 GMT 1, "Please respond ' ALIBERTINE' to the unfounded claims you have made against Auction Saboteur !?"
These are not unfound claims but transactions which fell through for a partner of the firm who wished to purchase Banksy prints through Auction Saboteur. This, amongst other cases was the reason the site has been setup.
"Are you saying that you have the support of P.O.W. and pest control in this venture?"
Yes Pest Control will be authenticating all print which pass through our site.
"Please respond ' ALIBERTINE' to the unfounded claims you have made against Auction Saboteur !?"
These are not unfound claims but transactions which fell through for a partner of the firm who wished to purchase Banksy prints through Auction Saboteur. This, amongst other cases was the reason the site has been setup.
"Are you saying that you have the support of P.O.W. and pest control in this venture?"
Yes Pest Control will be authenticating all print which pass through our site.
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loucastel
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Bidendum - The New Way to Buy and Sell Banksys, by loucastel on Oct 29, 2008 16:15:50 GMT 1, After having read through this thread, it looks to me like another attempt to jump on the Banksy bandwagon to make a few quid, this company is asking for a lot of trust to be placed in it, i.e, sending what could amount to thousands of pounds worth of prints, to a company without any track record, of any description, what if they went pop? what happens to the prints in their care? Seems like if you dont get the blessing from this forum, the enterprise is over before it has begun, as I should imagine this is where majority of people who buy and sell the prints congregate.
After having read through this thread, it looks to me like another attempt to jump on the Banksy bandwagon to make a few quid, this company is asking for a lot of trust to be placed in it, i.e, sending what could amount to thousands of pounds worth of prints, to a company without any track record, of any description, what if they went pop? what happens to the prints in their care? Seems like if you dont get the blessing from this forum, the enterprise is over before it has begun, as I should imagine this is where majority of people who buy and sell the prints congregate.
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Bidendum
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Bidendum - The New Way to Buy and Sell Banksys, by Bidendum on Oct 29, 2008 16:15:59 GMT 1, "2. If I put a bid in for a print, and then it is matched by a seller who then changes his mind and pulls out is there any recourse on my part? For example with eBay I can leave bad feedback
You will not be charged anything for this as the funds are only taken once the print has been received and authenticated,
You're not answering his question. Look up the meaning of recourse. I think that's where you're going wrong. He wants to know if he has any rights to compensation/complaint/affect the seller in some way, as the buyer, if the seller pulls out after a price is agreed."
The seller will be reprimanded. Bidendum offers a 3 strikes policy with sellers and their accounts after which time they will be banned from the site. The buyers, funds in this instance, will never leave their account.
"2. If I put a bid in for a print, and then it is matched by a seller who then changes his mind and pulls out is there any recourse on my part? For example with eBay I can leave bad feedback
You will not be charged anything for this as the funds are only taken once the print has been received and authenticated,
You're not answering his question. Look up the meaning of recourse. I think that's where you're going wrong. He wants to know if he has any rights to compensation/complaint/affect the seller in some way, as the buyer, if the seller pulls out after a price is agreed."
The seller will be reprimanded. Bidendum offers a 3 strikes policy with sellers and their accounts after which time they will be banned from the site. The buyers, funds in this instance, will never leave their account.
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Bidendum - The New Way to Buy and Sell Banksys, by arcam on Oct 29, 2008 16:16:52 GMT 1, "Are you saying that you have the support of P.O.W. and pest control in this venture?" Yes Pest Control will be authenticating all print which pass through our site. That's not quite the same thing.
"Are you saying that you have the support of P.O.W. and pest control in this venture?" Yes Pest Control will be authenticating all print which pass through our site. That's not quite the same thing.
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Bidendum - The New Way to Buy and Sell Banksys, by arcam on Oct 29, 2008 16:18:21 GMT 1, After having read through this thread, it looks to me like another attempt to jump on the Banksy bandwagon to make a few quid, this company is asking for a lot of trust to be placed in it, i.e, sending what could amount to thousands of pounds worth of prints, to a company without any track record, of any description Spot on.
After having read through this thread, it looks to me like another attempt to jump on the Banksy bandwagon to make a few quid, this company is asking for a lot of trust to be placed in it, i.e, sending what could amount to thousands of pounds worth of prints, to a company without any track record, of any description Spot on.
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Bidendum - The New Way to Buy and Sell Banksys, by Bidendum on Oct 29, 2008 16:18:39 GMT 1, "Without this, with respect, you're nobody and you need to think about working hard to establish your credibility BEFORE asking 10% for your limited services imho."
Whilst we do understand this we are trying, through the use of this site, to enable a secure Banksy trading floor for you guys.
"Without this, with respect, you're nobody and you need to think about working hard to establish your credibility BEFORE asking 10% for your limited services imho."
Whilst we do understand this we are trying, through the use of this site, to enable a secure Banksy trading floor for you guys.
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