Michael Jacob
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crazy jakes new concept critique, by Michael Jacob on Nov 15, 2008 20:48:37 GMT 1, Here's a concept Im working on, titled: FROM ABOVE. Id like constructive opinions please. The image here is just a computer file. What Id like to do is an actual size piece, 8x6 feet. I would like it to be a hanging sculpture of sorts. I want the base to be sand-like, and the footsteps to look real, like they were walked on. The whole piece would be white. The wood on top would be real, and about 1 inch thick. The red paint would be a little pearlescent. Im trying a small sculpture right now, using clay and my daugthers barbies for footprints. Im part of an upcoming show in Philadelphia on December 5th, and Id like the study to be done for that. Maybe someone will love it and commission the actual size piece 
Id like some of your opinions on what you like and dont like. News sets of eyes always help. Many thanks!
Here's a concept Im working on, titled: FROM ABOVE. Id like constructive opinions please. The image here is just a computer file. What Id like to do is an actual size piece, 8x6 feet. I would like it to be a hanging sculpture of sorts. I want the base to be sand-like, and the footsteps to look real, like they were walked on. The whole piece would be white. The wood on top would be real, and about 1 inch thick. The red paint would be a little pearlescent. Im trying a small sculpture right now, using clay and my daugthers barbies for footprints. Im part of an upcoming show in Philadelphia on December 5th, and Id like the study to be done for that. Maybe someone will love it and commission the actual size piece Id like some of your opinions on what you like and dont like. News sets of eyes always help. Many thanks! |
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jonvespa
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crazy jakes new concept critique, by jonvespa on Nov 15, 2008 22:53:41 GMT 1, image not showing up jake!
image not showing up jake!
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crazy jakes new concept critique, by wiz on Nov 15, 2008 22:55:25 GMT 1, Its ok here, all visible.
Its ok here, all visible.
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Michael Jacob
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crazy jakes new concept critique, by Michael Jacob on Nov 15, 2008 22:56:00 GMT 1, Thanks Jon.
Im not sure what to do. Its hosted on photobucket. It seems to have worked in the past. I can see it here. Can anyone else see it? Im on a mac.
Thanks Jon.
Im not sure what to do. Its hosted on photobucket. It seems to have worked in the past. I can see it here. Can anyone else see it? Im on a mac.
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crazy jakes new concept critique, by wiz on Nov 15, 2008 22:58:48 GMT 1, Like i said fine here and im also on Macs.
Like i said fine here and im also on Macs.
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Michael Jacob
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crazy jakes new concept critique, by Michael Jacob on Nov 15, 2008 23:01:35 GMT 1, thanks wizbong, any thoughts?
thanks wizbong, any thoughts?
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crazy jakes new concept critique, by wiz on Nov 15, 2008 23:05:34 GMT 1, Hard to say why he cannot see the image Jake really, its loading up ok here so cant suggest anything really, ANY COMPUTER BOFFINS OUT THERE PLEASE?.
Hard to say why he cannot see the image Jake really, its loading up ok here so cant suggest anything really, ANY COMPUTER BOFFINS OUT THERE PLEASE?.
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crazy jakes new concept critique, by hero on Nov 15, 2008 23:08:38 GMT 1, can you let me know what the message is
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can you let me know what the message is
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Michael Jacob
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crazy jakes new concept critique, by Michael Jacob on Nov 15, 2008 23:14:16 GMT 1, ive been doing some religious stuff lately. Ive got this piece, a large screenprint, and a few small sculptures in the works. This piece is called FROM ABOVE. Its a snapshot looking at the ground right after the Crucifiction. I wanted to simplify the moment and instead of showing Jesus, or the Cross or anything else, just the ground seemed to stand out. When I can do it full size, I would like it all white with imprints in the sand. I think seeing this 8 x 8 feet or so would be striking. Thanks for asking.
ive been doing some religious stuff lately. Ive got this piece, a large screenprint, and a few small sculptures in the works. This piece is called FROM ABOVE. Its a snapshot looking at the ground right after the Crucifiction. I wanted to simplify the moment and instead of showing Jesus, or the Cross or anything else, just the ground seemed to stand out. When I can do it full size, I would like it all white with imprints in the sand. I think seeing this 8 x 8 feet or so would be striking. Thanks for asking.
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gtf
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crazy jakes new concept critique, by gtf on Nov 15, 2008 23:51:46 GMT 1, I'm on a p.c. and can't see the picture, there is no embedded link.
Better add the link so we can cut and paste.
Edit:- The link associated with the picture is i194.photobucket.com/albums/z210/cooper-smith/fromabove.jpg but even using this does not work on a p.c.
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GVD
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crazy jakes new concept critique, by GVD on Nov 16, 2008 0:55:36 GMT 1, The image is probably saved in a way that you can open it on a mac but not on a pc. It says it contains errors on my pc. Maybe check the settings when you save a image?
The image is probably saved in a way that you can open it on a mac but not on a pc. It says it contains errors on my pc. Maybe check the settings when you save a image?
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crazy jakes new concept critique, by wiz on Nov 16, 2008 1:05:37 GMT 1, Can you see it now?.
Can you see it now?. |
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crazy jakes new concept critique, by hero on Nov 16, 2008 11:20:20 GMT 1, i would say its missing the T bits on the cross, and i would say maybe use real fake blood, they have very good stuff at fancydress.com and it drips good ;D
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i would say its missing the T bits on the cross, and i would say maybe use real fake blood, they have very good stuff at fancydress.com and it drips good ;D H |
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loucastel
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crazy jakes new concept critique, by loucastel on Nov 16, 2008 11:53:58 GMT 1, I like the idea jake, but like hero says it needs the arms of the cross, also in my humble opnion the cross should be in the centre rather than the edge, with footprints all around, as I said good concept.
I like the idea jake, but like hero says it needs the arms of the cross, also in my humble opnion the cross should be in the centre rather than the edge, with footprints all around, as I said good concept.
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seidbereit
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crazy jakes new concept critique, by seidbereit on Nov 16, 2008 14:03:13 GMT 1, Not sure about it being all white to be honest as it makes it look like snow. Also not sure the cross would have been quite so accurately squared off as you've shown it, surely it would have been a pretty rough affair.
Shouldn't the two crosses on either side also be visible?
Not sure about it being all white to be honest as it makes it look like snow. Also not sure the cross would have been quite so accurately squared off as you've shown it, surely it would have been a pretty rough affair.
Shouldn't the two crosses on either side also be visible?
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crazy jakes new concept critique, by crazyarsemother on Nov 16, 2008 14:16:31 GMT 1, Why don't you paint your feet or use real sand and then fix it in resin. Or make the whole installation and then just rotate it 90 degrees forward and photograph it. Don't forget that having made the choice to produce the piece in 2D it still needs those elements that make it visually stimulating, rather than relying on it translating a concept like a diagram. Good luck mate, I am sure you will make it. Let us know how it goes with T and P.
Why don't you paint your feet or use real sand and then fix it in resin. Or make the whole installation and then just rotate it 90 degrees forward and photograph it. Don't forget that having made the choice to produce the piece in 2D it still needs those elements that make it visually stimulating, rather than relying on it translating a concept like a diagram. Good luck mate, I am sure you will make it. Let us know how it goes with T and P.
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Michael Jacob
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crazy jakes new concept critique, by Michael Jacob on Nov 16, 2008 14:37:01 GMT 1, wizbong, thanks for the help with the images. I still have no idea why people arent seeing it. Maybe that explains poor sales of some of my previous artwork.
thanks for all the good ideas. seidbereit, i agree with the squared off wood. for the final piece, Ive been looking for a piece of distressed wood that I think will ad alot to the piece. Originally I was going to make it more natural looking, but through a little experimenting, the white seemed to help convey the message better and force the eye to to where I wanted it to go when looking at it. In person, the white looks really good. As for the heros comments (and lous)I was really trying to make the "snapshot" from the ground. I really like the idea of fake blood. Now you've got me thinking about real blood. I remember seeing a post on here quite a while ago of a artist who uses real blood to paint with. My only hesitation aside from offending people is that it wouldnt be as bright as I would like. I also like Bakers idea of using my feet. I had thought about doing that for a full size test on brown craft paper. If theres a way to create a sand and resin piece and actually walk across that, it would be GREAT! Im going to have to look into that. lastly, i like the idea of adding the two crosses. that could make for a nice horizontal version, or maybe a tripdych? THANKS again to all those who offered their opinions, it really helps!
wizbong, thanks for the help with the images. I still have no idea why people arent seeing it. Maybe that explains poor sales of some of my previous artwork. thanks for all the good ideas. seidbereit, i agree with the squared off wood. for the final piece, Ive been looking for a piece of distressed wood that I think will ad alot to the piece. Originally I was going to make it more natural looking, but through a little experimenting, the white seemed to help convey the message better and force the eye to to where I wanted it to go when looking at it. In person, the white looks really good. As for the heros comments (and lous)I was really trying to make the "snapshot" from the ground. I really like the idea of fake blood. Now you've got me thinking about real blood. I remember seeing a post on here quite a while ago of a artist who uses real blood to paint with. My only hesitation aside from offending people is that it wouldnt be as bright as I would like. I also like Bakers idea of using my feet. I had thought about doing that for a full size test on brown craft paper. If theres a way to create a sand and resin piece and actually walk across that, it would be GREAT! Im going to have to look into that. lastly, i like the idea of adding the two crosses. that could make for a nice horizontal version, or maybe a tripdych? THANKS again to all those who offered their opinions, it really helps! |
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crazy jakes new concept critique, by hero on Nov 16, 2008 20:07:46 GMT 1, for the footprints maybe use montana gold paint and get the colour of the prints 2 shades down from the colour of the sand 
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for the footprints maybe use montana gold paint and get the colour of the prints 2 shades down from the colour of the sand H |
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Michael Jacob
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crazy jakes new concept critique, by Michael Jacob on Nov 17, 2008 20:04:10 GMT 1, also, thanks for the PMs with comments. Im going to spray a version tonight to see how it turns out.
also, thanks for the PMs with comments. Im going to spray a version tonight to see how it turns out.
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gozgoz
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crazy jakes new concept critique, by gozgoz on Nov 17, 2008 20:27:25 GMT 1, would be good to see the crown of thorns too maybe? so it wont be such an oblique abstract reference... also, if u include the T part of the cross u shld have blood at the ends of the T too for the hands?
why is there blood spots on the left and right?
would be good to see the crown of thorns too maybe? so it wont be such an oblique abstract reference... also, if u include the T part of the cross u shld have blood at the ends of the T too for the hands?
why is there blood spots on the left and right?
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Michael Jacob
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crazy jakes new concept critique, by Michael Jacob on Nov 17, 2008 20:34:30 GMT 1, The blood spots on the left and right are where the T would be above. Im just trying to the image from the ground, nothing above it.
Its funny you mention the Crown of Thorns. I ordered a batch of them last week from Isreal for another piece i want to do.
The blood spots on the left and right are where the T would be above. Im just trying to the image from the ground, nothing above it.
Its funny you mention the Crown of Thorns. I ordered a batch of them last week from Isreal for another piece i want to do.
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Michael Jacob
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crazy jakes new concept critique, by Michael Jacob on Nov 20, 2008 15:04:33 GMT 1, bump.
we havent had this many visitors in a long time!
bump.
we havent had this many visitors in a long time!
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froz
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crazy jakes new concept critique, by froz on Nov 20, 2008 20:52:46 GMT 1, I like it, but what about making the piece have a little more of a vanishing point instead of completely flat?
I like it, but what about making the piece have a little more of a vanishing point instead of completely flat?
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