mike hunt
New Member
Posts โข 456
Likes โข 0
December 2006
|
BBC 1 Imagine...Now , by mike hunt on Nov 21, 2007 11:04:28 GMT 1, That art critic was bang on and didn't take any crap. Personally, I'm sick and tired of conceptual art - It's really old hat and I don't care about the 'story' behind a piece. I like art that makes you feel something, not intellectualise. Thinking is over-rated.
That art critic was bang on and didn't take any crap. Personally, I'm sick and tired of conceptual art - It's really old hat and I don't care about the 'story' behind a piece. I like art that makes you feel something, not intellectualise. Thinking is over-rated.
|
|
|
|
BBC 1 Imagine...Now , by mcnuts on Nov 21, 2007 11:09:40 GMT 1, Damn. Missed this program. Is it available for download on the net anywhere?
i missed it too.... was in bed by 9pm 
Damn. Missed this program. Is it available for download on the net anywhere? i missed it too.... was in bed by 9pm |
|
motor
Junior Member
Posts โข 1,836
Likes โข 409
December 2006
|
BBC 1 Imagine...Now , by motor on Nov 21, 2007 11:12:47 GMT 1, That art critic was bang on and didn't take any crap. Personally, I'm sick and tired of conceptual art - It's really old hat and I don't care about the 'story' behind a piece. I like art that makes you feel something, not intellectualise. Thinking is over-rated.
;D
That art critic was bang on and didn't take any crap. Personally, I'm sick and tired of conceptual art - It's really old hat and I don't care about the 'story' behind a piece. I like art that makes you feel something, not intellectualise. Thinking is over-rated. ;D |
|
|
|
BBC 1 Imagine...Now , by slowmo on Nov 21, 2007 11:29:27 GMT 1, Did anyone pick up on the fact that not one person actually talked about the art, all of them talked about the price, the prestige etc etc. I was well pissed off that they were all willing to tell Yentob how much the art cost. Went to Frieze and liked a few bits, would they tell me how much they cost? Would the hell as like!!!! Frustrating as I would probably have been interested in something that was an original for ยฃ2-4K. Instead I got the whole, what is your budget, how much are you looking to spend routine. But I guess that fits in with the whole ethos of the programme
I felt there were a lot of parallels between the people on the programme and this forum, kind of a wake up call. The guy who collects the classical stuff, who was saying you could buy masters with the money being made from contemporary, he has tourettes! I guess they edited it.
Did anyone pick up on the fact that not one person actually talked about the art, all of them talked about the price, the prestige etc etc. I was well pissed off that they were all willing to tell Yentob how much the art cost. Went to Frieze and liked a few bits, would they tell me how much they cost? Would the hell as like!!!! Frustrating as I would probably have been interested in something that was an original for ยฃ2-4K. Instead I got the whole, what is your budget, how much are you looking to spend routine. But I guess that fits in with the whole ethos of the programme
I felt there were a lot of parallels between the people on the programme and this forum, kind of a wake up call. The guy who collects the classical stuff, who was saying you could buy masters with the money being made from contemporary, he has tourettes! I guess they edited it.
|
|
danvnuk
Junior Member
Posts โข 1,015
Likes โข 2
January 2006
|
BBC 1 Imagine...Now , by danvnuk on Nov 21, 2007 11:49:43 GMT 1, I thought there was an interesting point that was touched upon in the programme -
The fact you could buy a Picasso for some of the money that's being spent on contemporay art, and by spending that money - the statement your making is you like 'safe, proven, established art' Investment wise, it's fairly safe - but the reason people are spending these huge amounts of cash on relatively new artists is they want to be seen as cutting edge, as innovators as people discovering the 'New Picasso'
It's not about the art, it's more about them and what purchasing these pieces says to other people about their taste.
I thought there was an interesting point that was touched upon in the programme -
The fact you could buy a Picasso for some of the money that's being spent on contemporay art, and by spending that money - the statement your making is you like 'safe, proven, established art' Investment wise, it's fairly safe - but the reason people are spending these huge amounts of cash on relatively new artists is they want to be seen as cutting edge, as innovators as people discovering the 'New Picasso'
It's not about the art, it's more about them and what purchasing these pieces says to other people about their taste.
|
|
|
|
BBC 1 Imagine...Now , by dave313perry on Nov 21, 2007 12:02:20 GMT 1, Yeah found this very interesting an eye opening - the fact that the motive of collecting is diveverting, from wanting to own a classic master-piece with its place firmly stamped into histories into paying over the odds (and driving prices up) trying to find the next Van Gogh or the next picasso before the they are established. interesting indeed and very relevant to many on this board i feel...?
Edit : apologies about the spelling, im multi tasking..
Yeah found this very interesting an eye opening - the fact that the motive of collecting is diveverting, from wanting to own a classic master-piece with its place firmly stamped into histories into paying over the odds (and driving prices up) trying to find the next Van Gogh or the next picasso before the they are established. interesting indeed and very relevant to many on this board i feel...? Edit : apologies about the spelling, im multi tasking.. |
|
|
|
headphonesex
New Member
Posts โข 580
Likes โข 2
January 2006
|
BBC 1 Imagine...Now , by headphonesex on Nov 21, 2007 12:31:38 GMT 1, Damn. Missed this program. Is it available for download on the net anywhere?
It's on UKNova Pez....
I'd offer to download it for you but I have a pitiful internet connection and no DVD burner... :-(
Actually I could probably put it on a CD couldn't I... are you going to be at Black Rat early on Thursday? I'll be dropping in for a bit before Hot Chip so could bring a CD for you then....
Damn. Missed this program. Is it available for download on the net anywhere? It's on UKNova Pez.... I'd offer to download it for you but I have a pitiful internet connection and no DVD burner... :-( Actually I could probably put it on a CD couldn't I... are you going to be at Black Rat early on Thursday? I'll be dropping in for a bit before Hot Chip so could bring a CD for you then.... |
|
7eny
New Member
Posts โข 107
Likes โข 0
November 2006
|
BBC 1 Imagine...Now , by 7eny on Nov 21, 2007 13:10:23 GMT 1, I didn't see the start of it but I agree with slowmo, he never bought his final piece because he liked it, he bought it because it was in budget and he rang the artist mentor to ask if it was a good price, then bought it because he believed it was going to make him money, I don't think I actually heard him say he liked the ladder even 
I didn't see the start of it but I agree with slowmo, he never bought his final piece because he liked it, he bought it because it was in budget and he rang the artist mentor to ask if it was a good price, then bought it because he believed it was going to make him money, I don't think I actually heard him say he liked the ladder even |
|
|
|
BBC 1 Imagine...Now , by dave313perry on Nov 21, 2007 13:32:58 GMT 1, But wasnt that what the show was largely about - emphasising the naievity of 'the minnow collectors' that have entered the contemporary art world, looking for the prestige status of owning the possible 'next picasso'. I dont think the programme took itself too seriously, and seemed to set about the frailties and underhand activity as much as glorifying art. I thought it was a nice balanced programme.
I think the purchase of the ladder at the end was as much a summery of blind purchasing that people are gambling more and more with - ie ' i need to sell this on to pay off my credit cards...'
thats how i viewed it anyways...
But wasnt that what the show was largely about - emphasising the naievity of 'the minnow collectors' that have entered the contemporary art world, looking for the prestige status of owning the possible 'next picasso'. I dont think the programme took itself too seriously, and seemed to set about the frailties and underhand activity as much as glorifying art. I thought it was a nice balanced programme.
I think the purchase of the ladder at the end was as much a summery of blind purchasing that people are gambling more and more with - ie ' i need to sell this on to pay off my credit cards...'
thats how i viewed it anyways...
|
|
Deleted
Posts โข 0
Likes โข
January 1970
|
BBC 1 Imagine...Now , by Deleted on Nov 21, 2007 13:35:27 GMT 1, Any one wanna buy a wheel chair innertube pumped with french air ?
Any one wanna buy a wheel chair innertube pumped with french air ?
|
|
|
|
BBC 1 Imagine...Now , by dave313perry on Nov 21, 2007 13:36:41 GMT 1, if its Jeff Aerosols .... er no!
that was appaling - and the sun cutouts....how pathetic 
if its Jeff Aerosols .... er no! that was appaling - and the sun cutouts....how pathetic |
|
Deleted
Posts โข 0
Likes โข
January 1970
|
BBC 1 Imagine...Now , by Deleted on Nov 21, 2007 13:43:53 GMT 1, if its Jeff Aerosols .... er no! that was appaling - and the sun cutouts....how pathetic
What about a brand new pair of jeans from selfridges how much would you give me for that ?
if its Jeff Aerosols .... er no! that was appaling - and the sun cutouts....how pathetic What about a brand new pair of jeans from selfridges how much would you give me for that ? |
|
|
|
BBC 1 Imagine...Now , by dave313perry on Nov 21, 2007 13:47:46 GMT 1, if its Jeff Aerosols .... er no! that was appaling - and the sun cutouts....how pathetic What about a brand new pair of jeans from selfridges how much would you give me for that ?
Il give you a pigeon on cardboard 
if its Jeff Aerosols .... er no! that was appaling - and the sun cutouts....how pathetic What about a brand new pair of jeans from selfridges how much would you give me for that ? Il give you a pigeon on cardboard |
|
caswellbay
New Member
Posts โข 39
Likes โข 0
August 2007
|
BBC 1 Imagine...Now , by caswellbay on Nov 21, 2007 13:55:05 GMT 1, Thought it was absolutely hilarious. It was like some weird parralel world where everything was backwards. The crappier the art the more people extolled its virtues and the more it cost. The people there, gallerists to punters, all seemed to think they were in some special secret club, where only they new what was really cool, and they weren't going to let the plebs in at any cost. All very emperors new clothes in my opinion, they didn't seem to realise that the plebs on the outside would be pi55ing themselves laughing at the absurdity of it all.
Didn't see a single thing I liked, with the exception of the pretty red ladder, which would be dead useful for getting up to my loft from the landing.
Thought it was absolutely hilarious. It was like some weird parralel world where everything was backwards. The crappier the art the more people extolled its virtues and the more it cost. The people there, gallerists to punters, all seemed to think they were in some special secret club, where only they new what was really cool, and they weren't going to let the plebs in at any cost. All very emperors new clothes in my opinion, they didn't seem to realise that the plebs on the outside would be pi55ing themselves laughing at the absurdity of it all.
Didn't see a single thing I liked, with the exception of the pretty red ladder, which would be dead useful for getting up to my loft from the landing.
|
|
|
|
Deleted
Posts โข 0
Likes โข
January 1970
|
BBC 1 Imagine...Now , by Deleted on Nov 21, 2007 14:02:33 GMT 1, At 3.5k thats one expensive ladder to get in your loft
[quote author=caswellbay board=general thread=1195598455
post=1195649705]Thought it was absolutely hilarious. It was like some weird parralel world where everything was backwards. The crappier the art the more people extolled its virtues and the more it cost. The people there, gallerists to punters, all seemed to think they were in some special secret club, where only they new what was really cool, and they weren't going to let the plebs in at any cost. All very emperors new clothes in my opinion, they didn't seem to realise that the plebs on the outside would be pi55ing themselves laughing at the absurdity of it all.
Didn't see a single thing I liked, with the exception of the pretty red ladder, which would be dead useful for getting up to my loft from the landing. [/quote]
At 3.5k thats one expensive ladder to get in your loft
[quote author=caswellbay board=general thread=1195598455
post=1195649705]Thought it was absolutely hilarious. It was like some weird parralel world where everything was backwards. The crappier the art the more people extolled its virtues and the more it cost. The people there, gallerists to punters, all seemed to think they were in some special secret club, where only they new what was really cool, and they weren't going to let the plebs in at any cost. All very emperors new clothes in my opinion, they didn't seem to realise that the plebs on the outside would be pi55ing themselves laughing at the absurdity of it all.
Didn't see a single thing I liked, with the exception of the pretty red ladder, which would be dead useful for getting up to my loft from the landing. [/quote]
|
|
|
|
BBC 1 Imagine...Now , by corblimeylimey on Nov 21, 2007 14:04:21 GMT 1, the sun cutouts....how pathetic
That really was ridiculous wasn't it, with the 'artist' sending on further masthead cutouts in the future, great! eventually you'd have so many you could wallpaper your whole house with lots of un's ;D completely mad, gives art a bad name
the sun cutouts....how pathetic That really was ridiculous wasn't it, with the 'artist' sending on further masthead cutouts in the future, great! eventually you'd have so many you could wallpaper your whole house with lots of un's ;D completely mad, gives art a bad name |
|
skanky
New Member
Posts โข 887
Likes โข 60
August 2007
|
BBC 1 Imagine...Now , by skanky on Nov 21, 2007 14:04:49 GMT 1, For me it showed the true quality of the work that we all buy from our artists . All I saw on there last night was the 98%s**t. Didn't see anything in the same league as Neate , Banksy, Faile, Small, Parla,Micallef etc. There was a fair few numptys on show that couple selling the door designs were surely taking the piss.
For me it showed the true quality of the work that we all buy from our artists . All I saw on there last night was the 98%s**t. Didn't see anything in the same league as Neate , Banksy, Faile, Small, Parla,Micallef etc. There was a fair few numptys on show that couple selling the door designs were surely taking the piss.
|
|
|
|
BBC 1 Imagine...Now , by corblimeylimey on Nov 21, 2007 14:08:03 GMT 1, that couple selling the door designs were surely taking the piss.
Yeah, I agree, surely completely insane, I can't believe anyone spent any of their money on those.
that couple selling the door designs were surely taking the piss. Yeah, I agree, surely completely insane, I can't believe anyone spent any of their money on those. |
|
|
|
BBC 1 Imagine...Now , by dave313perry on Nov 21, 2007 14:08:36 GMT 1, indeed CBL - if you've got the interlect to justify it 'its art' (apparently...)
indeed CBL - if you've got the interlect to justify it 'its art' (apparently...)
|
|
funster
Junior Member
Posts โข 2,256
Likes โข 0
October 2006
|
BBC 1 Imagine...Now , by funster on Nov 21, 2007 14:21:57 GMT 1, I forgot to watch as well mate, I would think it'll be on BBC3 or BBC4 quite soon. Hope so. If anyone sees a listing for it can they let me know 
I'll transfer it from my HD onto old fashioned tape if you want and send it to you (and mcnuts). Just PM me ;D
I forgot to watch as well mate, I would think it'll be on BBC3 or BBC4 quite soon. Hope so. If anyone sees a listing for it can they let me know I'll transfer it from my HD onto old fashioned tape if you want and send it to you (and mcnuts). Just PM me ;D |
|
danvnuk
Junior Member
Posts โข 1,015
Likes โข 2
January 2006
|
BBC 1 Imagine...Now , by danvnuk on Nov 21, 2007 14:28:19 GMT 1, the sun cutouts....how pathetic That really was ridiculous wasn't it, with the 'artist' sending on further masthead cutouts in the future, great! eventually you'd have so many you could wallpaper your whole house with lots of un's ;D completely mad, gives art a bad name
I'll do the same if anyone fancies paying me half a million quid....
First off - I'll provide you with a sheet of "U,N" that I've meticulously cut from the masthead of the SUN newspaper everyday.....and I'll send your more every week.
To cap it off - at the end - when I've had enough of cutting and posting you "U,N"....I'll send you the special final two letters.
"C,T"
Which when you put it all together, makes the word that you'll be for paying me.
the sun cutouts....how pathetic That really was ridiculous wasn't it, with the 'artist' sending on further masthead cutouts in the future, great! eventually you'd have so many you could wallpaper your whole house with lots of un's ;D completely mad, gives art a bad name I'll do the same if anyone fancies paying me half a million quid.... First off - I'll provide you with a sheet of "U,N" that I've meticulously cut from the masthead of the SUN newspaper everyday.....and I'll send your more every week. To cap it off - at the end - when I've had enough of cutting and posting you "U,N"....I'll send you the special final two letters. "C,T" Which when you put it all together, makes the word that you'll be for paying me. |
|
|
|
BBC 1 Imagine...Now , by cashman on Nov 21, 2007 14:41:00 GMT 1, Bet D*FACE was swearing at the chapman brothers bit. You have to say, he does have a point. But lets not discuss that. The notes are cool though, wish i would have gone and got one but i think i was busy sleeping or something J
No artist owns any method or style. The chapman bro's were drawing many differant designs on the notes, but they were hand drawn unlike d's printed versions.
Im pretty shaw that Banksy dfaced notes before D.....and im even more certain that Blek had the rat as his logo long before Banksy was even jizz in his dads sack
How many times has Blek openly complained about this?
The programme was ace, some great stuff goin on there.
But even the with the conceptual stuff you could see the gallerists were kinda being tongue in cheek
Bet D*FACE was swearing at the chapman brothers bit. You have to say, he does have a point. But lets not discuss that. The notes are cool though, wish i would have gone and got one but i think i was busy sleeping or something J No artist owns any method or style. The chapman bro's were drawing many differant designs on the notes, but they were hand drawn unlike d's printed versions. Im pretty shaw that Banksy dfaced notes before D.....and im even more certain that Blek had the rat as his logo long before Banksy was even jizz in his dads sack How many times has Blek openly complained about this? The programme was ace, some great stuff goin on there. But even the with the conceptual stuff you could see the gallerists were kinda being tongue in cheek |
|
|
|
|
|
BBC 1 Imagine...Now , by pkt75 on Nov 21, 2007 14:47:40 GMT 1, Bet D*FACE was swearing at the chapman brothers bit. You have to say, he does have a point. But lets not discuss that. The notes are cool though, wish i would have gone and got one but i think i was busy sleeping or something J No artist owns any method or style. The chapman bro's were drawing many differant designs on the notes, but they were hand drawn unlike d's printed versions. Im pretty shaw that Banksy dfaced notes before D.....and im even more certain that Blek had the rat as his logo long before Banksy was even jizz in his dads sack How many times has Blek openly complained about this?
I may be wrong but I think D* did his notes first for the queens 80th Birthday and read somewhere on this forum that Banksy contacted D* to see if he would mind if he did the DI-Faced Tenner.
Jus wot I heard, I may be wrong.
Bet D*FACE was swearing at the chapman brothers bit. You have to say, he does have a point. But lets not discuss that. The notes are cool though, wish i would have gone and got one but i think i was busy sleeping or something J No artist owns any method or style. The chapman bro's were drawing many differant designs on the notes, but they were hand drawn unlike d's printed versions. Im pretty shaw that Banksy dfaced notes before D.....and im even more certain that Blek had the rat as his logo long before Banksy was even jizz in his dads sack How many times has Blek openly complained about this? I may be wrong but I think D* did his notes first for the queens 80th Birthday and read somewhere on this forum that Banksy contacted D* to see if he would mind if he did the DI-Faced Tenner. Jus wot I heard, I may be wrong. |
|
goffy
Junior Member
Posts โข 1,401
Likes โข 0
November 2006
|
BBC 1 Imagine...Now , by goffy on Nov 21, 2007 14:54:06 GMT 1, While I agree with a lot of the comments made, it's not just the rich that are looking for the "next big thing" and spending a lot of money on art. How many times have we read on here about someone wanting to know "who is going to be the next Banksy" Or somebody being hyped up on here and having some poor quality work selling out to mostly forum members!
While I agree with a lot of the comments made, it's not just the rich that are looking for the "next big thing" and spending a lot of money on art. How many times have we read on here about someone wanting to know "who is going to be the next Banksy" Or somebody being hyped up on here and having some poor quality work selling out to mostly forum members!
|
|
rolyateel
New Member
Posts โข 600
Likes โข 9
October 2006
|
BBC 1 Imagine...Now , by rolyateel on Nov 21, 2007 14:57:28 GMT 1, No artist owns any method or style. The chapman bro's were drawing many differant designs on the notes, but they were hand drawn unlike d's printed versions. Im pretty shaw that Banksy dfaced notes before D.....and im even more certain that Blek had the rat as his logo long before Banksy was even jizz in his dads sack How many times has Blek openly complained about this? I may be wrong but I think D* did his notes first for the queens 80th Birthday and read somewhere on this forum that Banksy contacted D* to see if he would mind if he did the DI-Faced Tenner. Jus wot I heard, I may be wrong.
people having been defacing banknotes for years...probably as long as there have been banknotes
Just coz Dface was the first to "call it art" doesn't mean he owns the concept
I'm sure Arsenal fans didn't get permission for this one either ;D
No artist owns any method or style. The chapman bro's were drawing many differant designs on the notes, but they were hand drawn unlike d's printed versions. Im pretty shaw that Banksy dfaced notes before D.....and im even more certain that Blek had the rat as his logo long before Banksy was even jizz in his dads sack How many times has Blek openly complained about this? I may be wrong but I think D* did his notes first for the queens 80th Birthday and read somewhere on this forum that Banksy contacted D* to see if he would mind if he did the DI-Faced Tenner. Jus wot I heard, I may be wrong. people having been defacing banknotes for years...probably as long as there have been banknotes Just coz Dface was the first to "call it art" doesn't mean he owns the concept I'm sure Arsenal fans didn't get permission for this one either ;D |
|
|
|
BBC 1 Imagine...Now , by dave313perry on Nov 21, 2007 15:00:55 GMT 1, HYPE HYPE HYPE is the name of the game - thats why iv learnt to just hang back and make my own decisions. The same people telling you how good an artist is and to 'buy up all their work', will be the first person selling when their profit margins are right. synical, but i talk from experience!!!!!
HYPE HYPE HYPE is the name of the game - thats why iv learnt to just hang back and make my own decisions. The same people telling you how good an artist is and to 'buy up all their work', will be the first person selling when their profit margins are right. synical, but i talk from experience!!!!!
|
|
caswellbay
New Member
Posts โข 39
Likes โข 0
August 2007
|
BBC 1 Imagine...Now , by caswellbay on Nov 21, 2007 15:05:48 GMT 1, At 3.5k thats one expensive ladder to get in your loft [quote author=caswellbay board=general thread=1195598455 post=1195649705]Thought it was absolutely hilarious. It was like some weird parralel world where everything was backwards. The crappier the art the more people extolled its virtues and the more it cost. The people there, gallerists to punters, all seemed to think they were in some special secret club, where only they new what was really cool, and they weren't going to let the plebs in at any cost. All very emperors new clothes in my opinion, they didn't seem to realise that the plebs on the outside would be pi55ing themselves laughing at the absurdity of it all. Didn't see a single thing I liked, with the exception of the pretty red ladder, which would be dead useful for getting up to my loft from the landing.
Cartrain.
You need to buy a pretty red ladder and prop it up against one of those trains you keep doodling on. Then you get one of the nutters from last nights program to give you 2 squillion quid for the train and ladder, thus immediately gaining access to the art nutters inner sanctum. Subsequently you will become an internationally famous artist, get invited to lots of posh parties with free booze, sleep with supermodels etc.
Then all you have to is mail me 10% of your income every month for coming up with the idea in the first place.
At 3.5k thats one expensive ladder to get in your loft [quote author=caswellbay board=general thread=1195598455 post=1195649705]Thought it was absolutely hilarious. It was like some weird parralel world where everything was backwards. The crappier the art the more people extolled its virtues and the more it cost. The people there, gallerists to punters, all seemed to think they were in some special secret club, where only they new what was really cool, and they weren't going to let the plebs in at any cost. All very emperors new clothes in my opinion, they didn't seem to realise that the plebs on the outside would be pi55ing themselves laughing at the absurdity of it all. Didn't see a single thing I liked, with the exception of the pretty red ladder, which would be dead useful for getting up to my loft from the landing. [/quote] Cartrain. You need to buy a pretty red ladder and prop it up against one of those trains you keep doodling on. Then you get one of the nutters from last nights program to give you 2 squillion quid for the train and ladder, thus immediately gaining access to the art nutters inner sanctum. Subsequently you will become an internationally famous artist, get invited to lots of posh parties with free booze, sleep with supermodels etc. Then all you have to is mail me 10% of your income every month for coming up with the idea in the first place. |
|
|
|
BBC 1 Imagine...Now , by cashman on Nov 21, 2007 15:18:56 GMT 1, Thought it was absolutely hilarious. It was like some weird parralel world where everything was backwards. The crappier the art the more people extolled its virtues and the more it cost. The people there, gallerists to punters, all seemed to think they were in some special secret club, where only they new what was really cool, and they weren't going to let the plebs in at any cost. All very emperors new clothes in my opinion, they didn't seem to realise that the plebs on the outside would be pi55ing themselves laughing at the absurdity of it all. Didn't see a single thing I liked, with the exception of the pretty red ladder, which would be dead useful for getting up to my loft from the landing.
Are you talking about the program or this forum  
Thought it was absolutely hilarious. It was like some weird parralel world where everything was backwards. The crappier the art the more people extolled its virtues and the more it cost. The people there, gallerists to punters, all seemed to think they were in some special secret club, where only they new what was really cool, and they weren't going to let the plebs in at any cost. All very emperors new clothes in my opinion, they didn't seem to realise that the plebs on the outside would be pi55ing themselves laughing at the absurdity of it all. Didn't see a single thing I liked, with the exception of the pretty red ladder, which would be dead useful for getting up to my loft from the landing. Are you talking about the program or this forum |
|
mike hunt
New Member
Posts โข 456
Likes โข 0
December 2006
|
BBC 1 Imagine...Now , by mike hunt on Nov 21, 2007 15:27:35 GMT 1, What I love about streetart and streetartists is that they do well due to popularity, not because elite people in an elite room say so. Their work is accessible (not a crime in my book - a big positive). If they end up in the 'real art world', its because talent, hard work and popularity got them there (and a good agent of course!).
IMO, no-one will ever be the next picasso or banksy. These kind of people come in limited editions of 1 - they are originals. Picasso was the best artist in Spain by the age of 12, and had to go to france after to learn more. He died in his 90s, having had an incredible output and originated different movements etc. Find me another one of him!
What I love about streetart and streetartists is that they do well due to popularity, not because elite people in an elite room say so. Their work is accessible (not a crime in my book - a big positive). If they end up in the 'real art world', its because talent, hard work and popularity got them there (and a good agent of course!).
IMO, no-one will ever be the next picasso or banksy. These kind of people come in limited editions of 1 - they are originals. Picasso was the best artist in Spain by the age of 12, and had to go to france after to learn more. He died in his 90s, having had an incredible output and originated different movements etc. Find me another one of him!
|
|
andrewd
Junior Member
Posts โข 1,079
Likes โข 33
September 2006
|
BBC 1 Imagine...Now , by andrewd on Nov 21, 2007 15:29:42 GMT 1, Has everyone downloaded the free money yet? www.bbc.co.uk/imagine/
|
|
