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Amuti23..... Advice please!!, by boaty on Feb 23, 2011 21:55:59 GMT 1, sounds like an old fashion ponzi scheme...
hope you guys get interest on your original payments, too!
sounds like an old fashion ponzi scheme...
hope you guys get interest on your original payments, too!
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Amuti23..... Advice please!!, by Deleted on Feb 23, 2011 22:06:16 GMT 1, My wife bought some artwork for my birthday towards the end of last year. If i had known she was planning to do this from AMUTI I would have advised her against it because their incompetence has been flagged up before - either on this forum, or others. Anyway, she did eventually receive a piece of art, just in time for my birthday, but it wasn't the one she had bought, and this only after numerous phone calls. They told her they couldn't find the art she wanted, so sent out something else by the same artist instead.
It's not for her to tell me how much she paid, and I don't want to know as I will only get angry because of what they sent her instead.
My wife bought some artwork for my birthday towards the end of last year. If i had known she was planning to do this from AMUTI I would have advised her against it because their incompetence has been flagged up before - either on this forum, or others. Anyway, she did eventually receive a piece of art, just in time for my birthday, but it wasn't the one she had bought, and this only after numerous phone calls. They told her they couldn't find the art she wanted, so sent out something else by the same artist instead.
It's not for her to tell me how much she paid, and I don't want to know as I will only get angry because of what they sent her instead.
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Amuti23..... Advice please!!, by wizzy on Feb 23, 2011 22:14:24 GMT 1, I must have been one of the lucky ones as i bought a couple of books from there and they turned up no problem, cant remember what they were though but still have them somewhere. This latest lot doesnt sound too good though.
I must have been one of the lucky ones as i bought a couple of books from there and they turned up no problem, cant remember what they were though but still have them somewhere. This latest lot doesnt sound too good though.
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Amuti23..... Advice please!!, by schnulli on Feb 23, 2011 22:49:28 GMT 1, I must have been one of the lucky ones as i bought a couple of books from there and they turned up no problem, cant remember what they were though but still have them somewhere. This latest lot doesnt sound too good though.
Was one of them "How to win friends and influence people"? Doesn't sound like he needed it anymore.
Good luck guys with your problems with Amuti. I remember having issues a while back with one Daniel Lahoda....that was stressful. Can imagine this is equally so.
I must have been one of the lucky ones as i bought a couple of books from there and they turned up no problem, cant remember what they were though but still have them somewhere. This latest lot doesnt sound too good though. Was one of them "How to win friends and influence people"? Doesn't sound like he needed it anymore. Good luck guys with your problems with Amuti. I remember having issues a while back with one Daniel Lahoda....that was stressful. Can imagine this is equally so.
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Amuti23..... Advice please!!, by wizzy on Feb 23, 2011 23:19:23 GMT 1, Sorry, i made a mistake earlier when i said i had bought books from Amuti, it was Stolenspace but they were Arty type books so thats prob why, hope you all get sorted though, must be frustrating.
Sorry, i made a mistake earlier when i said i had bought books from Amuti, it was Stolenspace but they were Arty type books so thats prob why, hope you all get sorted though, must be frustrating.
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Amuti23..... Advice please!!, by dancub on Feb 24, 2011 0:33:19 GMT 1, Hi, have had hassle with Amuti just recently. 2 items. Yep, they took the money but then no contact. I paid via Paypal and when I realised I was not going to get my stuff I went to my Paypal account and started a claim to get my squids back. Sorted very quickly in my favour. Please, never buy anything from these people, you'll only get bother.
Hi, have had hassle with Amuti just recently. 2 items. Yep, they took the money but then no contact. I paid via Paypal and when I realised I was not going to get my stuff I went to my Paypal account and started a claim to get my squids back. Sorted very quickly in my favour. Please, never buy anything from these people, you'll only get bother.
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Amuti23..... Advice please!!, by Baby Dave on Feb 24, 2011 20:55:29 GMT 1, Right...in Laurences favour he has paid me my refund. He did it yesterday and emailed me and called me today to check i had it.
The only thing is that he sent the refund via PayPal...and ive had to pick up the paypal fees!! Ive told him im not happy etc. Also, the payment has come from someone else, not him. He says this is a friend of his?!?!?! STRANGE!
Anyway, im going to get my paypal fees off him and hopefully that will be the end of this!!!!
Right...in Laurences favour he has paid me my refund. He did it yesterday and emailed me and called me today to check i had it.
The only thing is that he sent the refund via PayPal...and ive had to pick up the paypal fees!! Ive told him im not happy etc. Also, the payment has come from someone else, not him. He says this is a friend of his?!?!?! STRANGE!
Anyway, im going to get my paypal fees off him and hopefully that will be the end of this!!!!
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Amuti23..... Advice please!!, by Deleted on Feb 24, 2011 21:09:02 GMT 1, Can I just say again that this seller is TINTERNETDON on ebay so please be wary.
Can I just say again that this seller is TINTERNETDON on ebay so please be wary.
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Amuti23..... Advice please!!, by Baby Dave on Feb 24, 2011 21:25:54 GMT 1, Payment now received in full.
End of my saga. I hope everyone else with issues can get them resolved
Payment now received in full.
End of my saga. I hope everyone else with issues can get them resolved
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Amuti23..... Advice please!!, by They call me Stephen on Feb 25, 2011 10:36:04 GMT 1, Good news that Fragile, what a bunch of ****s. If amuti23 are also tinternetdon then I hope no one has bought any signed banksy stuff from them
Good news that Fragile, what a bunch of ****s. If amuti23 are also tinternetdon then I hope no one has bought any signed banksy stuff from them
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Amuti23..... Advice please!!, by craigf on Feb 25, 2011 11:07:49 GMT 1, Can I just say again that this seller is TINTERNETDON on ebay so please be wary.
Is this definitely the case? They always have items up on ebay including at the moment a wrong war box set that is reasonably priced, obviously this isn't the case if they don't actually have it
Can I just say again that this seller is TINTERNETDON on ebay so please be wary. Is this definitely the case? They always have items up on ebay including at the moment a wrong war box set that is reasonably priced, obviously this isn't the case if they don't actually have it
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Amuti23..... Advice please!!, by balibob on Feb 25, 2011 11:37:04 GMT 1, Glad you all got it sorted, i think this forum is perfect for making sure that problems like this come to light.
Glad you all got it sorted, i think this forum is perfect for making sure that problems like this come to light.
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Amuti23..... Advice please!!, by Art-el on Feb 25, 2011 14:30:44 GMT 1, Pleased to hear people are getting sorted. Shame that he's still managing to list on ebay
Pleased to hear people are getting sorted. Shame that he's still managing to list on ebay
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Amuti23..... Advice please!!, by des77 on Feb 25, 2011 14:37:21 GMT 1, Pleased to hear people are getting sorted. Shame that he's still managing to list on ebay
Surely this thread should be a sticky ? If it had been, this second round of scams probably wouldn't have happened
Pleased to hear people are getting sorted. Shame that he's still managing to list on ebay Surely this thread should be a sticky ? If it had been, this second round of scams probably wouldn't have happened
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Amuti23..... Advice please!!, by smellmyfinger on Feb 26, 2011 19:30:24 GMT 1, Just heard through the grapevine - friend-of-friend etc that Laurence had a breakdown and is just trying to sort himself out now. Could be a load of bull so make of that what you will I suppose...... No excuse for screwing people over?
Just heard through the grapevine - friend-of-friend etc that Laurence had a breakdown and is just trying to sort himself out now. Could be a load of bull so make of that what you will I suppose...... No excuse for screwing people over?
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Amuti23..... Advice please!!, by cakeboy on Feb 26, 2011 22:18:11 GMT 1, I bought a banksy jungle book poster off his site on Sunday . Arrived yesterday without any issues .
I must confess reading this thread I was wondering if it would ever show .
It did and by all accounts exactly as it was described .
I bought a banksy jungle book poster off his site on Sunday . Arrived yesterday without any issues .
I must confess reading this thread I was wondering if it would ever show .
It did and by all accounts exactly as it was described .
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Amuti23..... Advice please!!, by Ruggs on Feb 26, 2011 22:27:05 GMT 1, I bought a banksy jungle book poster off his site on Sunday . Arrived yesterday without any issues . I must confess reading this thread I was wondering if it would ever show . It did and by all accounts exactly as it was described .
;D
I bought a banksy jungle book poster off his site on Sunday . Arrived yesterday without any issues . I must confess reading this thread I was wondering if it would ever show . It did and by all accounts exactly as it was described . ;D
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Amuti23..... Advice please!!, by joeschmo on Feb 27, 2011 2:52:06 GMT 1, Just heard through the grapevine - friend-of-friend etc that Laurence had a breakdown and is just trying to sort himself out now. Could be a load of bull so make of that what you will I suppose...... No excuse for screwing people over?
I wouldn't doubt it, could happen to anyone.
Some people go over the top shouting and balling about their orders not arriving the week after they've bought them, one thing we've got to remember is that most of the time we're dealing with artists and piss heads, things take time and MOST importantly it'll get to you a whole lot faster if you ask nicely and don't act like a p*ick.
Just heard through the grapevine - friend-of-friend etc that Laurence had a breakdown and is just trying to sort himself out now. Could be a load of bull so make of that what you will I suppose...... No excuse for screwing people over? I wouldn't doubt it, could happen to anyone. Some people go over the top shouting and balling about their orders not arriving the week after they've bought them, one thing we've got to remember is that most of the time we're dealing with artists and piss heads, things take time and MOST importantly it'll get to you a whole lot faster if you ask nicely and don't act like a p*ick.
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Amuti23..... Advice please!!, by Baby Dave on Feb 27, 2011 7:34:57 GMT 1, I do hope you are not suggesting I've been acting like a p*ick
I do hope you are not suggesting I've been acting like a p*ick
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Amuti23..... Advice please!!, by des77 on Feb 27, 2011 12:36:13 GMT 1, Just heard through the grapevine - friend-of-friend etc that Laurence had a breakdown and is just trying to sort himself out now. Could be a load of bull so make of that what you will I suppose...... No excuse for screwing people over? I wouldn't doubt it, could happen to anyone. Some people go over the top shouting and balling about their orders not arriving the week after they've bought them, one thing we've got to remember is that most of the time we're dealing with artists and piss heads, things take time and MOST importantly it'll get to you a whole lot faster if you ask nicely and don't act like a p*ick.
Shows just how little you know really, I know this guys disappeared after orders and many complaints were not made until the order was 2/3 months late and communication had broken down.
Sorry to hear the guy is having problems, surely the best thing to do is shut up shop for 6 months... rather than killing what business he has left
Just heard through the grapevine - friend-of-friend etc that Laurence had a breakdown and is just trying to sort himself out now. Could be a load of bull so make of that what you will I suppose...... No excuse for screwing people over? I wouldn't doubt it, could happen to anyone. Some people go over the top shouting and balling about their orders not arriving the week after they've bought them, one thing we've got to remember is that most of the time we're dealing with artists and piss heads, things take time and MOST importantly it'll get to you a whole lot faster if you ask nicely and don't act like a p*ick. Shows just how little you know really, I know this guys disappeared after orders and many complaints were not made until the order was 2/3 months late and communication had broken down. Sorry to hear the guy is having problems, surely the best thing to do is shut up shop for 6 months... rather than killing what business he has left
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Amuti23..... Advice please!!, by alistairkhalil on Feb 27, 2011 12:56:19 GMT 1, Good luck guys!
Good luck guys!
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Amuti23..... Advice please!!, by Sacked... on Feb 27, 2011 22:52:10 GMT 1, Tinternetdon strikes again :
cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=300528748498
'King of street art Banksy original stenciled Pumas on metal panels three meters by two meters
comes with signed Steve Lazaridis letter of personel provenance
Street art with rare provenance'.
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Amuti23..... Advice please!!, by smellmyfinger on Feb 28, 2011 0:15:45 GMT 1, Are you certain Tinternetdon is Amuti? As far as I know Amuti are on eBay as a-twentythree. Just a thought.
Are you certain Tinternetdon is Amuti? As far as I know Amuti are on eBay as a-twentythree. Just a thought.
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Amuti23..... Advice please!!, by Amuti 23 on Feb 28, 2011 14:20:18 GMT 1, AN AMUTI 23 COMMUNICATION – an intervention of sorts Not really sure where to start with this. I do want to defend myself here in a way, but also don’t want to make excuses for myself or belittle the justified anxiety and anger that people are feeling. I think the best thing for me to do is put everyone in the picture with some clarity about what has been the problem and then explain how the mess is being sorted out. Basically I am recovering from a period I can only explain as some sort of breakdown or deep depression. 2010 was a terrible year for me. In hind sight I should never have moved from Woburn Walk to West London. It was a huge mistake. The massive raise in overhead was not nearly matched by an increase in business. The result was that it all started going backwards fast and I started spiralling. It all nearly went under but I managed, at a huge price, to convince the landlord to allow me to break the lease. So whist trying to clear and shop and restore it and was forced through need to firesale. That’s when it really started to go wrong. The duplicate orders started piling up, things where being moved into storage, so we getting lost, damaged or accidently packed away. The packing etc was backing up and I had to be out my Christmas. The result was that I got totally lost and really really behind and muddled. To add to it all, in the move the computer that had the orders on it gout bust so I then know I would have to wait for people would contact me or I could go through all the paper trail. Bailiffs were coming to the door and I was sinking. That’s when it all went really bad. I just couldn’t face it. I know all I had to do was let people know what was going on, but I could hardly face getting up and washing in the morning, let alone communicate in any useful form. Through fear and panic I just got a in cycle of depression that I couldn’t get out of. By the time I did things had gotten really bad. Because of the large amounts of disputes on paypal my account was restricted and hugely in a negative balance. This meant that I couldn’t even refund people any longer and didn’t have enough money to buy the replacement. And so the cycle got even worse and I buried my head deeper. I only tell you all this so you have an idea of where I was and not to excuse my actions and lack of communication. I completely hold my hands up to a lot of what people of accused me off. I have been a terrible communicator and people have had to wait stupid amounts of times for their orders. There are a few things, however, that I will not own. I am not racist, I do not list items I cannot get (like most dealers I will sometimes put an item on to sell for a commission or something I know another dealer has that they will let me sell) and I still hold out IO have never been dishonest. There are people on this forum who have had a problem, with me before and I am sure they will tell you I have alreays made it up to them and more. I always resolve everything. Some people will me pissed off that I hadto allow paypal to give them there refund. This was out of need. I couldn’t refund with a negative balance, but because of your agreement with paypal they have to refund you and collect from me. It was slow way of doing it, but the only way I had of making sure that your guys got your money. I would rather owe paypal than you. The long and short of this is that it was all a big mess but I am through the worst of it. I am sure you have all been contacted about replacements and refunds – if not then please do contact me – and most people will now have their items. I am nearly at the bottom of it. As I said I am not making excuses , it is inexcusable, but I was lost, and will work with everyone ot make it up to them if I can. A member of this forum that I recently refunded asked: “where did it go wrongs Laurence. You where one of the good guys” Well this is where it went wrong and as I am sure other people with an experience of my will confirm, I am one of the good guys, I will make this up to every single person, and am back in a present frame of mind to do so. If you stil don’t have a resolution then please contact me info@amuti23.com, is back working. And I hope that I do get a chance to make it up to everyone.
Thanks for your time.
AN AMUTI 23 COMMUNICATION – an intervention of sorts Not really sure where to start with this. I do want to defend myself here in a way, but also don’t want to make excuses for myself or belittle the justified anxiety and anger that people are feeling. I think the best thing for me to do is put everyone in the picture with some clarity about what has been the problem and then explain how the mess is being sorted out. Basically I am recovering from a period I can only explain as some sort of breakdown or deep depression. 2010 was a terrible year for me. In hind sight I should never have moved from Woburn Walk to West London. It was a huge mistake. The massive raise in overhead was not nearly matched by an increase in business. The result was that it all started going backwards fast and I started spiralling. It all nearly went under but I managed, at a huge price, to convince the landlord to allow me to break the lease. So whist trying to clear and shop and restore it and was forced through need to firesale. That’s when it really started to go wrong. The duplicate orders started piling up, things where being moved into storage, so we getting lost, damaged or accidently packed away. The packing etc was backing up and I had to be out my Christmas. The result was that I got totally lost and really really behind and muddled. To add to it all, in the move the computer that had the orders on it gout bust so I then know I would have to wait for people would contact me or I could go through all the paper trail. Bailiffs were coming to the door and I was sinking. That’s when it all went really bad. I just couldn’t face it. I know all I had to do was let people know what was going on, but I could hardly face getting up and washing in the morning, let alone communicate in any useful form. Through fear and panic I just got a in cycle of depression that I couldn’t get out of. By the time I did things had gotten really bad. Because of the large amounts of disputes on paypal my account was restricted and hugely in a negative balance. This meant that I couldn’t even refund people any longer and didn’t have enough money to buy the replacement. And so the cycle got even worse and I buried my head deeper. I only tell you all this so you have an idea of where I was and not to excuse my actions and lack of communication. I completely hold my hands up to a lot of what people of accused me off. I have been a terrible communicator and people have had to wait stupid amounts of times for their orders. There are a few things, however, that I will not own. I am not racist, I do not list items I cannot get (like most dealers I will sometimes put an item on to sell for a commission or something I know another dealer has that they will let me sell) and I still hold out IO have never been dishonest. There are people on this forum who have had a problem, with me before and I am sure they will tell you I have alreays made it up to them and more. I always resolve everything. Some people will me pissed off that I hadto allow paypal to give them there refund. This was out of need. I couldn’t refund with a negative balance, but because of your agreement with paypal they have to refund you and collect from me. It was slow way of doing it, but the only way I had of making sure that your guys got your money. I would rather owe paypal than you. The long and short of this is that it was all a big mess but I am through the worst of it. I am sure you have all been contacted about replacements and refunds – if not then please do contact me – and most people will now have their items. I am nearly at the bottom of it. As I said I am not making excuses , it is inexcusable, but I was lost, and will work with everyone ot make it up to them if I can. A member of this forum that I recently refunded asked: “where did it go wrongs Laurence. You where one of the good guys” Well this is where it went wrong and as I am sure other people with an experience of my will confirm, I am one of the good guys, I will make this up to every single person, and am back in a present frame of mind to do so. If you stil don’t have a resolution then please contact me info@amuti23.com, is back working. And I hope that I do get a chance to make it up to everyone.
Thanks for your time.
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Amuti23..... Advice please!!, by Daniel Silk on Feb 28, 2011 14:32:51 GMT 1, Laurence Thanks for coming on the forum and making the post, I'm sure it must have been hard to do, but I think probably also takes a bit of weight off your shoulders, and should help you move forwards.
Lets keep the thread positive and constructive, and let all the people involved work together to resolve the outstanding orders.
Laurence Thanks for coming on the forum and making the post, I'm sure it must have been hard to do, but I think probably also takes a bit of weight off your shoulders, and should help you move forwards. Lets keep the thread positive and constructive, and let all the people involved work together to resolve the outstanding orders.
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Amuti23..... Advice please!!, by gilsteph on Feb 28, 2011 14:34:38 GMT 1, I agree with Silky....thanks for posting and good to hear you are over the worst. Good luck for the future!
I agree with Silky....thanks for posting and good to hear you are over the worst. Good luck for the future!
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Amuti23..... Advice please!!, by alistairkhalil on Feb 28, 2011 14:36:59 GMT 1, i third that!! Good luck!
i third that!! Good luck!
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Amuti23..... Advice please!!, by Damien on Feb 28, 2011 14:43:15 GMT 1, yeah hope you sort everything out for yourself and the customers, good of you to offer some explanation
yeah hope you sort everything out for yourself and the customers, good of you to offer some explanation
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Amuti23..... Advice please!!, by Deleted on Feb 28, 2011 15:34:35 GMT 1, All been close, and hats off to you for coming forward.
With apologies to Id-iom
All been close, and hats off to you for coming forward. With apologies to Id-iom
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