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Two new failes on outerborough, by absyrd on Oct 1, 2007 19:49:23 GMT 1, It says OB Collection, does it not?
It says OB Collection, does it not?
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Two new failes on outerborough, by bobbymeachamjr on Oct 1, 2007 20:42:42 GMT 1, whats that brooklyn one going for?
prob my fav faile image of them all!
whats that brooklyn one going for?
prob my fav faile image of them all!
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Two new failes on outerborough, by Filipino Box Spring Hog on Oct 1, 2007 21:01:00 GMT 1, it's not for sale
it's not for sale
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Two new failes on outerborough, by bombshelter on Oct 1, 2007 21:27:44 GMT 1, It says OB Collection, does it not?
s*it never saw that soz 
It says OB Collection, does it not? s*it never saw that soz |
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Two new failes on outerborough, by jboy on Oct 1, 2007 21:36:40 GMT 1, are galleries such as this just posh flippers - i cant see the difference?
are galleries such as this just posh flippers - i cant see the difference?
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Two new failes on outerborough, by Zippy on Oct 1, 2007 21:43:36 GMT 1, that brooklyn print is stunning.
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that brooklyn print is stunning.
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Two new failes on outerborough, by bobbymeachamjr on Oct 1, 2007 21:44:59 GMT 1, i dont know about posh but that site is ghetto cheesy
i dont know about posh but that site is ghetto cheesy
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Two new failes on outerborough, by bobbymeachamjr on Oct 1, 2007 21:45:52 GMT 1, are galleries such as this just posh flippers - i cant see the difference?
ALL "galleries" are flippers
are galleries such as this just posh flippers - i cant see the difference? ALL "galleries" are flippers |
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Two new failes on outerborough, by crazyhorse on Oct 1, 2007 21:48:45 GMT 1, are galleries such as this just posh flippers - i cant see the difference?
By flipping you mean buying and selling, that is what galleries do, no? It's called the secondary market!
are galleries such as this just posh flippers - i cant see the difference? By flipping you mean buying and selling, that is what galleries do, no? It's called the secondary market! |
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Two new failes on outerborough, by jboy on Oct 1, 2007 21:51:11 GMT 1, Its just weird how some have no issues buying from galleries, but wont buy off people on ebay when technically its the same thing. I understand if the gallery commissions a piece or the artist does a one off for them, but some of these were released at the last faile release and are already ยฃ300 more.
I think when flippers get referred to you should consider all those galleries as well. Im not mentioning any names, but i think we know the ones.
Places like stolenspace (sell their own artists prints) and POW (print their artists prints) as do SOS are probably the only exception, the rest are flippers IMO.
Just an observation
Its just weird how some have no issues buying from galleries, but wont buy off people on ebay when technically its the same thing. I understand if the gallery commissions a piece or the artist does a one off for them, but some of these were released at the last faile release and are already ยฃ300 more.
I think when flippers get referred to you should consider all those galleries as well. Im not mentioning any names, but i think we know the ones.
Places like stolenspace (sell their own artists prints) and POW (print their artists prints) as do SOS are probably the only exception, the rest are flippers IMO.
Just an observation
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Two new failes on outerborough, by bobbymeachamjr on Oct 1, 2007 22:08:54 GMT 1, yeah all the venom goes towards the individual for some strange reason - theres "galleries" on here all the time pushing just released products @much more than what the "individual" would sell for. Seems to me that a lot of the "galleries" are simply individuals with a website...
yeah all the venom goes towards the individual for some strange reason - theres "galleries" on here all the time pushing just released products @much more than what the "individual" would sell for. Seems to me that a lot of the "galleries" are simply individuals with a website...
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Two new failes on outerborough, by taco on Oct 1, 2007 22:23:06 GMT 1, yeah all the venom goes towards the individual for some strange reason - theres "galleries" on here all the time pushing just released products @much more than what the "individual" would sell for. Seems to me that a lot of the "galleries" are simply individuals with a website...
mmm, and in private collection just means "on my wall in my house"...
yeah all the venom goes towards the individual for some strange reason - theres "galleries" on here all the time pushing just released products @much more than what the "individual" would sell for. Seems to me that a lot of the "galleries" are simply individuals with a website... mmm, and in private collection just means "on my wall in my house"... |
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Two new failes on outerborough, by 1800garrett on Oct 1, 2007 22:30:05 GMT 1, my god, so many responces, not for sale~!!!!
my god, so many responces, not for sale~!!!!
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Two new failes on outerborough, by crazyhorse on Oct 1, 2007 22:41:05 GMT 1, yeah all the venom goes towards the individual for some strange reason - theres "galleries" on here all the time pushing just released products @much more than what the "individual" would sell for. Seems to me that a lot of the "galleries" are simply individuals with a website...
I agree. I think it is very obvious who the full-time genuine galleries are against those websites which have been cheaply set-up by individuals who have simply bought too much art in the past (typically everything POW was selling) and who need to sell to pay off their credit cards.
yeah all the venom goes towards the individual for some strange reason - theres "galleries" on here all the time pushing just released products @much more than what the "individual" would sell for. Seems to me that a lot of the "galleries" are simply individuals with a website... I agree. I think it is very obvious who the full-time genuine galleries are against those websites which have been cheaply set-up by individuals who have simply bought too much art in the past (typically everything POW was selling) and who need to sell to pay off their credit cards. |
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Two new failes on outerborough, by jboy on Oct 1, 2007 22:46:11 GMT 1, probably owned by greasy greeks.
sorry, im generalising. ;D
probably owned by greasy greeks.
sorry, im generalising. ;D
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Two new failes on outerborough, by endtimes on Oct 2, 2007 3:04:02 GMT 1, If it's a gallery that nurtures new artists and the art scene, and puts on shows and puts blood sweat and tears into it all that's great I don't mind supporting them. If it's agallery that sucks up all the hot new releases and lists them on their site for double the next week, then they're flippers pretending to be a gallery.
If it's a gallery that nurtures new artists and the art scene, and puts on shows and puts blood sweat and tears into it all that's great I don't mind supporting them. If it's agallery that sucks up all the hot new releases and lists them on their site for double the next week, then they're flippers pretending to be a gallery.
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Two new failes on outerborough, by Chuck D on Oct 2, 2007 4:23:30 GMT 1, That was perfectly said.
That was perfectly said.
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Two new failes on outerborough, by paulypaul on Oct 2, 2007 9:49:22 GMT 1, probably owned by greasy greeks. sorry, im generalising. ;D
That's not generalising - that's rascist, unpleasant and uneccesary so I have negged you, which is something I don't normally do....
probably owned by greasy greeks. sorry, im generalising. ;D That's not generalising - that's rascist, unpleasant and uneccesary so I have negged you, which is something I don't normally do.... |
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Two new failes on outerborough, by jonpud on Oct 2, 2007 11:08:28 GMT 1, Please don't neg me for this but I am struggling with the whole Faile scene! I don't get it, I don't understand why people like it so much! There is obviously a deeper meaning to the work, some historical pedigree that explains the work but if there is I can't find it!?
Can anyone help me out here! Whats it all about? Jeeez I feel naive and ignorant!
Please don't neg me for this but I am struggling with the whole Faile scene! I don't get it, I don't understand why people like it so much! There is obviously a deeper meaning to the work, some historical pedigree that explains the work but if there is I can't find it!? Can anyone help me out here! Whats it all about? Jeeez I feel naive and ignorant! |
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Two new failes on outerborough, by stuey09 on Oct 2, 2007 12:51:08 GMT 1, Please don't neg me for this but I am struggling with the whole Faile scene! I don't get it, I don't understand why people like it so much! There is obviously a deeper meaning to the work, some historical pedigree that explains the work but if there is I can't find it!? Can anyone help me out here! Whats it all about? Jeeez I feel naive and ignorant!
Interesting that you have yet to receive a reply to this one Jon. I had this conversation with a good friend last night. I respect his opinions on art and wanted to know what it is he liked about Faile, because I too don't get excited by their work. He explained his reasons, but I would be interested to hear some other forum members opinions. You shouldn't be getting neg'd either Jon, you've made a fair point.
Please don't neg me for this but I am struggling with the whole Faile scene! I don't get it, I don't understand why people like it so much! There is obviously a deeper meaning to the work, some historical pedigree that explains the work but if there is I can't find it!? Can anyone help me out here! Whats it all about? Jeeez I feel naive and ignorant! Interesting that you have yet to receive a reply to this one Jon. I had this conversation with a good friend last night. I respect his opinions on art and wanted to know what it is he liked about Faile, because I too don't get excited by their work. He explained his reasons, but I would be interested to hear some other forum members opinions. You shouldn't be getting neg'd either Jon, you've made a fair point. |
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Two new failes on outerborough, by Johnston America on Oct 2, 2007 12:53:29 GMT 1, for me a lot of it is just enjoying the imagery hanging on my wall, nothing more than that.. like some kind of dark comic book cover meets playboy.. 
but even beyond that, aside from this last release you could get a handfinished print (and some of them are so unique they should be originals, with heavy layers of paint, an incredible amount of hand detailing) for a run of 8, or 12, or even 15 - for the same cost as you'd pay for a flat color run of 300 or 500 from other artists.. if you haven't seen one in person, it may be hard to appreciate how "hand done" these are -
just my .02
for me a lot of it is just enjoying the imagery hanging on my wall, nothing more than that.. like some kind of dark comic book cover meets playboy.. but even beyond that, aside from this last release you could get a handfinished print (and some of them are so unique they should be originals, with heavy layers of paint, an incredible amount of hand detailing) for a run of 8, or 12, or even 15 - for the same cost as you'd pay for a flat color run of 300 or 500 from other artists.. if you haven't seen one in person, it may be hard to appreciate how "hand done" these are - just my .02 |
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Two new failes on outerborough, by mcnuts on Oct 2, 2007 13:01:32 GMT 1, Looks like stuey is on lunch break 
Looks like stuey is on lunch break |
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Two new failes on outerborough, by stuey09 on Oct 2, 2007 13:02:58 GMT 1, Looks like stuey is on lunch break
;D ;D ;D It's been a helluva morning 
Looks like stuey is on lunch break ;D ;D ;D It's been a helluva morning |
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Two new failes on outerborough, by dave313perry on Oct 2, 2007 13:02:59 GMT 1, I also miss the significance in Faile's work to warrant such prieces - To me they are simply a montage of images, not even created by themselves which they manipulate crudely in photoshop and compile in a rustic fashion.
I appreciate the finished product of their work is quite bold and sometimes looks quite nice and gives a good impact, but i 'faile' (excuse the pun) to see any debth in their method - very limited skill and artistic talent.
I also had this conversation with a few people in the art and design business who agreed. I think i must be missing a trick!!!
Again i view it as - could i replicate it easily - and the answer is yup, i think so
I also miss the significance in Faile's work to warrant such prieces - To me they are simply a montage of images, not even created by themselves which they manipulate crudely in photoshop and compile in a rustic fashion. I appreciate the finished product of their work is quite bold and sometimes looks quite nice and gives a good impact, but i 'faile' (excuse the pun) to see any debth in their method - very limited skill and artistic talent. I also had this conversation with a few people in the art and design business who agreed. I think i must be missing a trick!!! Again i view it as - could i replicate it easily - and the answer is yup, i think so |
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Two new failes on outerborough, by jipsy on Oct 2, 2007 13:04:06 GMT 1, You shouldn't worry about being neg'd just for expressing an opinion Jonpud (I know it happens).
I agree, Faile doesn't work for me, the cartoon illustration style just does nothing for me visually or emotionally but it obviously does for thousands of others.
It may be the lack of sincerity in their work maybe I should loosen up a bit.
No right or wrong here, eh?
You shouldn't worry about being neg'd just for expressing an opinion Jonpud (I know it happens).
I agree, Faile doesn't work for me, the cartoon illustration style just does nothing for me visually or emotionally but it obviously does for thousands of others.
It may be the lack of sincerity in their work maybe I should loosen up a bit.
No right or wrong here, eh?
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Two new failes on outerborough, by stuey09 on Oct 2, 2007 13:09:36 GMT 1, In fairness, I have to say that when I collected a Faile piece for a forum member, I had to appreciate the excellent quality of the work. But on the whole, I couldn't justify the cost against my feelings for their images. I dare say, though, that I have work on my walls that some people (including my wife) think is rubbish. It is simply a matter of diverse opinions.
In fairness, I have to say that when I collected a Faile piece for a forum member, I had to appreciate the excellent quality of the work. But on the whole, I couldn't justify the cost against my feelings for their images. I dare say, though, that I have work on my walls that some people (including my wife) think is rubbish. It is simply a matter of diverse opinions.
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Two new failes on outerborough, by endtimes on Oct 2, 2007 13:11:29 GMT 1, Don't get Faile?
www.supertouchblog.com/2007/06/07/nycfailes-million-dollar-baby
Maybe you need to see the work in the flesh. The prints are ok, but the canvases are truly hot. I can understand if you don't like em though. But if you get a chance to see one of their shows. You should really get there and then decide.
Don't get Faile? www.supertouchblog.com/2007/06/07/nycfailes-million-dollar-babyMaybe you need to see the work in the flesh. The prints are ok, but the canvases are truly hot. I can understand if you don't like em though. But if you get a chance to see one of their shows. You should really get there and then decide. |
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Two new failes on outerborough, by motor on Oct 2, 2007 13:13:55 GMT 1, Please don't neg me for this but I am struggling with the whole Faile scene! I don't get it, I don't understand why people like it so much! There is obviously a deeper meaning to the work, some historical pedigree that explains the work but if there is I can't find it!? Can anyone help me out here! Whats it all about? Jeeez I feel naive and ignorant!
If you don't like something or don't understand why do you care???
Don't force yourself... just because other do???
Just my 2p.
Please don't neg me for this but I am struggling with the whole Faile scene! I don't get it, I don't understand why people like it so much! There is obviously a deeper meaning to the work, some historical pedigree that explains the work but if there is I can't find it!? Can anyone help me out here! Whats it all about? Jeeez I feel naive and ignorant! If you don't like something or don't understand why do you care??? Don't force yourself... just because other do??? Just my 2p. |
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Two new failes on outerborough, by stuey09 on Oct 2, 2007 13:19:27 GMT 1, Off back to do some grafting now Mcnuts. Enjoy Loosewomen or whatever is on daytime TV mate
Off back to do some grafting now Mcnuts. Enjoy Loosewomen or whatever is on daytime TV mate |
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