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Banksy funds Refugee Rescue boat, by Rouen Cathedral on Aug 29, 2020 17:41:29 GMT 1, Interestingly it seems like there are two other boats in the same position. Yet they don’t seem to be getting the press because Banksys name isn’t painted on it...
Interestingly it seems like there are two other boats in the same position. Yet they don’t seem to be getting the press because Banksys name isn’t painted on it...
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Banksy funds Refugee Rescue boat, by Rouen Cathedral on Aug 29, 2020 17:36:04 GMT 1, Define ‘saving lives’. Say these individual are forces to go back to where they came. Is that saving their life? Of course like everything you ignore the deeper concept of my comment. I said it’s a noble cause and simply plucking these people out of the water may be ‘saving their life’ at that specific moment. But what happens next... Focussing purely one your latter remark, a “next” that wouldn’t be possible should they die tragically while at sea.
So what if next is they are returned to their origin and they die tragically then? Or die in their next attempt to leave?
What’s the goal? To make awareness? Sure. But does Banksy need to paint his name in the side of the boat and create this sense of it being art or not?
That’s the problem with Banksy. If this is art it’s gross. If it’s not art then why exploit it with the art and your name.
Define ‘saving lives’. Say these individual are forces to go back to where they came. Is that saving their life? Of course like everything you ignore the deeper concept of my comment. I said it’s a noble cause and simply plucking these people out of the water may be ‘saving their life’ at that specific moment. But what happens next... Focussing purely one your latter remark, a “next” that wouldn’t be possible should they die tragically while at sea. So what if next is they are returned to their origin and they die tragically then? Or die in their next attempt to leave? What’s the goal? To make awareness? Sure. But does Banksy need to paint his name in the side of the boat and create this sense of it being art or not? That’s the problem with Banksy. If this is art it’s gross. If it’s not art then why exploit it with the art and your name.
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Banksy funds Refugee Rescue boat, by Rouen Cathedral on Aug 29, 2020 17:34:06 GMT 1, What happens next is they carry on breathing, as opposed to drowning.
What happens after that is supposed to be a matter of law, a law which is currently being willfully ignored by Europe.
Precisely
What’s the law being ignored?
What happens next is they carry on breathing, as opposed to drowning.
What happens after that is supposed to be a matter of law, a law which is currently being willfully ignored by Europe.
Precisely What’s the law being ignored?
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Banksy funds Refugee Rescue boat, by Rouen Cathedral on Aug 29, 2020 17:33:20 GMT 1, Define ‘saving lives’. Say these individual are forces to go back to where they came. Is that saving their life? Of course like everything you ignore the deeper concept of my comment. I said it’s a noble cause and simply plucking these people out of the water may be ‘saving their life’ at that specific moment. But what happens next... What happens next is they carry on breathing, as opposed to drowning.
What happens after that is supposed to be a matter of law, a law which is currently being willfully ignored by Europe.
So you are telling me Banksy with all his means didn’t plan for ‘next’?
Like I said I get the concept. Go Banksy, but turning into an exhibition while attaching his name to it while people’s lives are in the balance seems like the wrong way.
Define ‘saving lives’. Say these individual are forces to go back to where they came. Is that saving their life? Of course like everything you ignore the deeper concept of my comment. I said it’s a noble cause and simply plucking these people out of the water may be ‘saving their life’ at that specific moment. But what happens next... What happens next is they carry on breathing, as opposed to drowning.
What happens after that is supposed to be a matter of law, a law which is currently being willfully ignored by Europe.
So you are telling me Banksy with all his means didn’t plan for ‘next’? Like I said I get the concept. Go Banksy, but turning into an exhibition while attaching his name to it while people’s lives are in the balance seems like the wrong way.
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Banksy funds Refugee Rescue boat, by Rouen Cathedral on Aug 29, 2020 17:26:02 GMT 1, Those people just speculating on the motives and who is actually operating the boat need to think before they speak. Just take a moment to look into the subject before you comment please. This rescue ship is not being operated by a bunch of amateurs on a day out at sea as some people appear to be suggesting. Banksy paid for the ship, yes, but as he says he knows nothing about rescue missions at sea he paid for the ship but professionals are on board with years of experience of search and rescue. Please get your facts before you speak.
So give me some facts. Where are these people going? Will they be returned to the countries they flee’d from?
Those people just speculating on the motives and who is actually operating the boat need to think before they speak. Just take a moment to look into the subject before you comment please. This rescue ship is not being operated by a bunch of amateurs on a day out at sea as some people appear to be suggesting. Banksy paid for the ship, yes, but as he says he knows nothing about rescue missions at sea he paid for the ship but professionals are on board with years of experience of search and rescue. Please get your facts before you speak. So give me some facts. Where are these people going? Will they be returned to the countries they flee’d from?
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Banksy funds Refugee Rescue boat, by Rouen Cathedral on Aug 29, 2020 17:24:39 GMT 1, Uh this seems questionable morally. Like a lot of banksys recent things. Concept great and noble sure. But having no plan for what to do and then tweeting about it when no one comes seems kind of gross to me. That you can describe saving lives as “kind of gross” is astonishing.
Define ‘saving lives’.
Say these individual are forces to go back to where they came. Is that saving their life?
Of course like everything you ignore the deeper concept of my comment. I said it’s a noble cause and simply plucking these people out of the water may be ‘saving their life’ at that specific moment. But what happens next...
Uh this seems questionable morally. Like a lot of banksys recent things. Concept great and noble sure. But having no plan for what to do and then tweeting about it when no one comes seems kind of gross to me. That you can describe saving lives as “kind of gross” is astonishing. Define ‘saving lives’. Say these individual are forces to go back to where they came. Is that saving their life? Of course like everything you ignore the deeper concept of my comment. I said it’s a noble cause and simply plucking these people out of the water may be ‘saving their life’ at that specific moment. But what happens next...
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Banksy funds Refugee Rescue boat, by Rouen Cathedral on Aug 29, 2020 16:50:29 GMT 1, Uh this seems questionable morally.
Like a lot of banksys recent things. Concept great and noble sure. But having no plan for what to do and then tweeting about it when no one comes seems kind of gross to me.
Uh this seems questionable morally.
Like a lot of banksys recent things. Concept great and noble sure. But having no plan for what to do and then tweeting about it when no one comes seems kind of gross to me.
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Banksy funds Refugee Rescue boat, by Rouen Cathedral on Aug 29, 2020 2:28:37 GMT 1, Sooooo I see everyone fawning over the fact that ‘it’s banksy’ but like how does this legally work? Doesn’t seem like anyone actually cares. Classic....
Sooooo I see everyone fawning over the fact that ‘it’s banksy’ but like how does this legally work? Doesn’t seem like anyone actually cares. Classic....
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Banksy funds Refugee Rescue boat, by Rouen Cathedral on Aug 28, 2020 0:49:16 GMT 1, Soooo what happens if no one lets him drop off the refugees....
Soooo what happens if no one lets him drop off the refugees....
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Is It Worth Preserving? , by Rouen Cathedral on Aug 9, 2020 22:17:51 GMT 1, If you can’t preserve it in somewhere decent state then cut it out of the wall and preserve it in doors. Couldn’t disagree more.
What’s the point of it’s current condition?
What will the point be when it’s completely gone?
Preserving a moldy old wall for what?
If you can’t preserve it in somewhere decent state then cut it out of the wall and preserve it in doors. Couldn’t disagree more. What’s the point of it’s current condition? What will the point be when it’s completely gone? Preserving a moldy old wall for what?
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Is It Worth Preserving? , by Rouen Cathedral on Aug 8, 2020 13:37:42 GMT 1, If you can’t preserve it in somewhere decent state then cut it out of the wall and preserve it in doors.
If you can’t preserve it in somewhere decent state then cut it out of the wall and preserve it in doors.
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Bleak Le Rat - Dancer AP, by Rouen Cathedral on Aug 4, 2020 23:59:24 GMT 1, Too bad blek signed it sideways.
Love that print though.
Too bad blek signed it sideways.
Love that print though.
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Banksy in China, by Rouen Cathedral on Jul 19, 2020 17:38:05 GMT 1, Seems you may not understand the word ironic. Lol Not sure what world you live in these days. More irony would be you are also probably boycotting GoYa beans. Actually, Sea Lion, you toss off your obsolete lols too quickly. Read your first post about Banksy being a social justice warrior and see if you can spot your subterfuge. You are clumsy, and obvious. With some wit you might be interesting, someone somebody would talk to at a party briefly on the way to talking with someone else more interesting. As to your Goya reference, distracting and completely unrelated. Now stop masturbating before you go blind.
Snooze fest. Next time I’ll send my post to the editors.
Seems you may not understand the word ironic. Lol Not sure what world you live in these days. More irony would be you are also probably boycotting GoYa beans. Actually, Sea Lion, you toss off your obsolete lols too quickly. Read your first post about Banksy being a social justice warrior and see if you can spot your subterfuge. You are clumsy, and obvious. With some wit you might be interesting, someone somebody would talk to at a party briefly on the way to talking with someone else more interesting. As to your Goya reference, distracting and completely unrelated. Now stop masturbating before you go blind. Snooze fest. Next time I’ll send my post to the editors.
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Banksy in China, by Rouen Cathedral on Jul 19, 2020 16:41:02 GMT 1, You didn't answer the question. Quit stalling. Are you saying 100% of the population of China's politics are opposite of Banksy's? Please answer with a 'Yes' or a 'No'. I’m not painting anyone. not sure what world you live in cause broad brush painting is all the vogue. When it’s convenient and fits ones narrative. Until it’s not and one wants something themselves. Like I said irony. #money
I don’t need to answer a question just cause you infer wrongly.
Here’s the better question. .
Does every owner of a banksy work agree with banksys politics?
You didn't answer the question. Quit stalling. Are you saying 100% of the population of China's politics are opposite of Banksy's? Please answer with a 'Yes' or a 'No'. I’m not painting anyone. not sure what world you live in cause broad brush painting is all the vogue. When it’s convenient and fits ones narrative. Until it’s not and one wants something themselves. Like I said irony. #money I don’t need to answer a question just cause you infer wrongly. Here’s the better question. . Does every owner of a banksy work agree with banksys politics?
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Banksy in China, by Rouen Cathedral on Jul 19, 2020 16:29:25 GMT 1, So you mean the communist party and those that support the communist party. What about those that don't? Do we paint them with the same brush? Be careful how you say stuff. Banksys politics are on the opposite side of China.
I’m not painting anyone.
not sure what world you live in cause broad brush painting is all the vogue. When it’s convenient and fits ones narrative. Until it’s not and one wants something themselves. Like I said irony.
#money
So you mean the communist party and those that support the communist party. What about those that don't? Do we paint them with the same brush? Be careful how you say stuff. Banksys politics are on the opposite side of China. I’m not painting anyone. not sure what world you live in cause broad brush painting is all the vogue. When it’s convenient and fits ones narrative. Until it’s not and one wants something themselves. Like I said irony. #money
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Banksy in China, by Rouen Cathedral on Jul 19, 2020 16:25:47 GMT 1, Banksys politics are on the opposite side of China. Banksy politics are on the opposite side of UK.....
Ironic right. Ding ding ding
Banksys politics are on the opposite side of China. Banksy politics are on the opposite side of UK..... Ironic right. Ding ding ding
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Banksy in China, by Rouen Cathedral on Jul 19, 2020 16:24:43 GMT 1, I sometimes wonder whether, given Banksy's politics and humanitarian leanings, there's a degree of nose-holding from some of his buyers/collectors, and also perhaps from the artist. I guess though, if you like the image (or the investment), in the same way that many can overlook the bad things an artist might've done, some might also find it possible to overlook the good things too.
“Like the image” does not apply to Banksy Investors/collectors.
I sometimes wonder whether, given Banksy's politics and humanitarian leanings, there's a degree of nose-holding from some of his buyers/collectors, and also perhaps from the artist. I guess though, if you like the image (or the investment), in the same way that many can overlook the bad things an artist might've done, some might also find it possible to overlook the good things too. “Like the image” does not apply to Banksy Investors/collectors.
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Banksy in China, by Rouen Cathedral on Jul 19, 2020 16:23:52 GMT 1, Banksys politics are on the opposite side of China. Right, Sea Lion, but neither has anything to do with the other, so you are creating a false narrative. How banal.
Seems you may not understand the word ironic. Lol
Not sure what world you live in these days.
More irony would be you are also probably boycotting GoYa beans.
Banksys politics are on the opposite side of China. Right, Sea Lion, but neither has anything to do with the other, so you are creating a false narrative. How banal. Seems you may not understand the word ironic. Lol Not sure what world you live in these days. More irony would be you are also probably boycotting GoYa beans.
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Banksy in China, by Rouen Cathedral on Jul 19, 2020 14:55:15 GMT 1, How is it ironic? What are you implying? Quite ironic for the social justice warrior of banksy to have his market boosted by Chinese collectors.
Banksys politics are on the opposite side of China.
How is it ironic? What are you implying? Quite ironic for the social justice warrior of banksy to have his market boosted by Chinese collectors. Banksys politics are on the opposite side of China.
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Banksy in China, by Rouen Cathedral on Jul 19, 2020 1:16:50 GMT 1, Quite ironic for the social justice warrior of banksy to have his market boosted by Chinese collectors. Can’t chinese collectors have Banksy?
Sure they can!
Anyone can have banksy if they want.
Quite ironic for the social justice warrior of banksy to have his market boosted by Chinese collectors. Can’t chinese collectors have Banksy? Sure they can! Anyone can have banksy if they want.
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Banksy in China, by Rouen Cathedral on Jul 18, 2020 17:36:17 GMT 1, Quite ironic for the social justice warrior of banksy to have his market boosted by Chinese collectors.
Quite ironic for the social justice warrior of banksy to have his market boosted by Chinese collectors.
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Customs duties from Social Animals?, by Rouen Cathedral on Jul 16, 2020 2:58:33 GMT 1, I’ve purchased Jr prints from social animals and perrotin France and never had to pay anything besides what they charge for shipping.
I’ve purchased Jr prints from social animals and perrotin France and never had to pay anything besides what they charge for shipping.
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New website, by Rouen Cathedral on Jul 16, 2020 2:55:08 GMT 1, You should say what you feel man. Sounds like you’re holding back I assume that will happen once he’s moved on to the mezcal.
Don’t drink mezcal. Only tequila.
You should say what you feel man. Sounds like you’re holding back I assume that will happen once he’s moved on to the mezcal. Don’t drink mezcal. Only tequila.
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What a crap website .... come on who’s had enough?, by Rouen Cathedral on Jul 16, 2020 2:54:26 GMT 1, I offer $500.
Did I win?
I offer $500.
Did I win?
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If you don’t mask you don’t get, by Rouen Cathedral on Jul 16, 2020 2:19:35 GMT 1, Digital age we live in. Physical art now is only experienced in digital platform. Someone smarter then me can analyze what that means for physical art that is never actual seen or experienced in real life. I can tell you from personal experience see the Parthenon and Pantheon in a book is 100% different then experiencing it in person. What does public street art become if there is no public street to experience it in? I think in the history of both art and the human race, relatively few people got to actually see any given work of art. I know what you mean though. I remember, after years of admiring the work of Francis Bacon, one day, in The Herbert gallery, I turned around and came unexpectedly face to face with an original for the first time. It created a very real and visceral sensation within me. Something primal. I wanted to have sex with it, basically. And you don't get that from art books. Well........some art books. On the plus side, even taking into account the fact that humans travel about more than they ever have, the digital age gives many more the chance to see (if not "experience") works of art. And, regarding the latest Banksy, a piece of art (paint or performance) that, without being digitally documented, would've otherwise been seen by, what? - a dozen people or so on that train carriage? Probably also a couple of cleaners and maybe someone from the London Transport Police. A magistrate maybe, but that's it. And I reckon, viewed digitally or not, the train thing created very real feelings in people. I mean, I know if it wasn't for the internet, I would've got very little out of Banksy's whole BOTI show. You can't be everywhere, and Banksy's work doesn't last 5 f*cking minutes in the wild these days.
I also think this feels different then say BOTI is because there is no ‘real’ in situ Photos. Like this wasn’t experience at all by any person in the general public. We saw banksy boti photos from various real life people. This not at all.
Digital age we live in. Physical art now is only experienced in digital platform. Someone smarter then me can analyze what that means for physical art that is never actual seen or experienced in real life. I can tell you from personal experience see the Parthenon and Pantheon in a book is 100% different then experiencing it in person. What does public street art become if there is no public street to experience it in? I think in the history of both art and the human race, relatively few people got to actually see any given work of art. I know what you mean though. I remember, after years of admiring the work of Francis Bacon, one day, in The Herbert gallery, I turned around and came unexpectedly face to face with an original for the first time. It created a very real and visceral sensation within me. Something primal. I wanted to have sex with it, basically. And you don't get that from art books. Well........some art books. On the plus side, even taking into account the fact that humans travel about more than they ever have, the digital age gives many more the chance to see (if not "experience") works of art. And, regarding the latest Banksy, a piece of art (paint or performance) that, without being digitally documented, would've otherwise been seen by, what? - a dozen people or so on that train carriage? Probably also a couple of cleaners and maybe someone from the London Transport Police. A magistrate maybe, but that's it. And I reckon, viewed digitally or not, the train thing created very real feelings in people. I mean, I know if it wasn't for the internet, I would've got very little out of Banksy's whole BOTI show. You can't be everywhere, and Banksy's work doesn't last 5 f*cking minutes in the wild these days. I also think this feels different then say BOTI is because there is no ‘real’ in situ Photos. Like this wasn’t experience at all by any person in the general public. We saw banksy boti photos from various real life people. This not at all.
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If you don’t mask you don’t get, by Rouen Cathedral on Jul 16, 2020 2:14:34 GMT 1, Digital age we live in. Physical art now is only experienced in digital platform. Someone smarter then me can analyze what that means for physical art that is never actual seen or experienced in real life. I can tell you from personal experience see the Parthenon and Pantheon in a book is 100% different then experiencing it in person. What does public street art become if there is no public street to experience it in? I think in the history of both art and the human race, relatively few people got to actually see any given work of art. I know what you mean though. I remember, after years of admiring the work of Francis Bacon, one day, in The Herbert gallery, I turned around and came unexpectedly face to face with an original for the first time. It created a very real and visceral sensation within me. Something primal. I wanted to have sex with it, basically. And you don't get that from art books. Well........some art books. On the plus side, even taking into account the fact that humans travel about more than they ever have, the digital age gives many more the chance to see (if not "experience") works of art. And, regarding the latest Banksy, a piece of art (paint or performance) that, without being digitally documented, would've otherwise been seen by, what? - a dozen people or so on that train carriage? Probably also a couple of cleaners and maybe someone from the London Transport Police. A magistrate maybe, but that's it. And I reckon, viewed digitally or not, the train thing created very real feelings in people. I mean, I know if it wasn't for the internet, I would've got very little out of Banksy's whole BOTI show. You can't be everywhere, and Banksy's work doesn't last 5 f*cking minutes in the wild these days.
Im following all you are saying.
But there is something different about the actual artist sharing it digitally vs say a documentation on a textbook.
It’s almost like the artist is ‘okay’ with the digital reality over any physically reality. And that seems odd.
Digital age we live in. Physical art now is only experienced in digital platform. Someone smarter then me can analyze what that means for physical art that is never actual seen or experienced in real life. I can tell you from personal experience see the Parthenon and Pantheon in a book is 100% different then experiencing it in person. What does public street art become if there is no public street to experience it in? I think in the history of both art and the human race, relatively few people got to actually see any given work of art. I know what you mean though. I remember, after years of admiring the work of Francis Bacon, one day, in The Herbert gallery, I turned around and came unexpectedly face to face with an original for the first time. It created a very real and visceral sensation within me. Something primal. I wanted to have sex with it, basically. And you don't get that from art books. Well........some art books. On the plus side, even taking into account the fact that humans travel about more than they ever have, the digital age gives many more the chance to see (if not "experience") works of art. And, regarding the latest Banksy, a piece of art (paint or performance) that, without being digitally documented, would've otherwise been seen by, what? - a dozen people or so on that train carriage? Probably also a couple of cleaners and maybe someone from the London Transport Police. A magistrate maybe, but that's it. And I reckon, viewed digitally or not, the train thing created very real feelings in people. I mean, I know if it wasn't for the internet, I would've got very little out of Banksy's whole BOTI show. You can't be everywhere, and Banksy's work doesn't last 5 f*cking minutes in the wild these days. Im following all you are saying. But there is something different about the actual artist sharing it digitally vs say a documentation on a textbook. It’s almost like the artist is ‘okay’ with the digital reality over any physically reality. And that seems odd.
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If you don’t mask you don’t get, by Rouen Cathedral on Jul 16, 2020 0:35:50 GMT 1, I doubt (but don’t know) that TFL would grant permission. They have a pretty strict policy on Graf I understand; and they said they removed it pursuant to that policy. They didn’t say oops, we didn’t realise it was Banksy it that they wished they hadn’t removed it. As for meurke’s comment, well, of course making a video was part of the work (as that’s what Banksy did and shared!).
Digital age we live in. Physical art now is only experienced in digital platform.
Someone smarter then me can analyze what that means for physical art that is never actual seen or experienced in real life.
I can tell you from personal experience see the Parthenon and Pantheon in a book is 100% different then experiencing it in person.
What does public street art become if there is no public street to experience it in?
I doubt (but don’t know) that TFL would grant permission. They have a pretty strict policy on Graf I understand; and they said they removed it pursuant to that policy. They didn’t say oops, we didn’t realise it was Banksy it that they wished they hadn’t removed it. As for meurke’s comment, well, of course making a video was part of the work (as that’s what Banksy did and shared!). Digital age we live in. Physical art now is only experienced in digital platform. Someone smarter then me can analyze what that means for physical art that is never actual seen or experienced in real life. I can tell you from personal experience see the Parthenon and Pantheon in a book is 100% different then experiencing it in person. What does public street art become if there is no public street to experience it in?
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If you don’t mask you don’t get, by Rouen Cathedral on Jul 15, 2020 15:08:35 GMT 1, Interesting aspect of this work is that it was removed basically before anyone on the ‘street’ could even see it.
Basically this work is not a street work but a work used to create a video documentary.
I think this is true of a couple recent banksy works where their existence is less public art and more digital.
Interesting aspect of this work is that it was removed basically before anyone on the ‘street’ could even see it.
Basically this work is not a street work but a work used to create a video documentary.
I think this is true of a couple recent banksy works where their existence is less public art and more digital.
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If you don’t mask you don’t get, by Rouen Cathedral on Jul 14, 2020 14:48:24 GMT 1, That gunningham? Lol
It is a very good work of art though!
That gunningham? Lol
It is a very good work of art though!
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If you don’t mask you don’t get, by Rouen Cathedral on Jul 14, 2020 14:44:34 GMT 1, Seems like Banksy is Benjamin button.
Seems like Banksy is Benjamin button.
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