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The Art of BAST, by dwight on Aug 5, 2022 15:36:27 GMT 1, I love all the recent Bast image posts. I can think of a couple of large original works I'd like to see surface and know where they ended up. One in particular was probably 5ft by 5ft black and white work on paper. Anyway, I'm having trouble with seeing large images on this new forum format. The menu at the top of the page takes up 1/4 of the screen so I can only see the images partially by scrolling through them.
I love all the recent Bast image posts. I can think of a couple of large original works I'd like to see surface and know where they ended up. One in particular was probably 5ft by 5ft black and white work on paper. Anyway, I'm having trouble with seeing large images on this new forum format. The menu at the top of the page takes up 1/4 of the screen so I can only see the images partially by scrolling through them.
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Faile โข Dog Prints, All Editions , by dwight on Feb 3, 2022 20:23:53 GMT 1, As I've said in the past, the large number of prints they've put out has hurt their appeal. Their older work has/had a rare and loyal cult following (that very few artists attain), but they've diluted it to a point that not even those people will buy. There's no way they are selling very many when there's only one page of talk about the release in 24 hours. It's felt like smoke and mirrors for many years now. Pre-2008 Faile forever. The conversation has moved on from this forum thanks to the consistent stream of negativity. Thankfully, their real collector base is alive and well, and I'm reminded of that any time I list a piece for sale. I do love pre 2008 Faile. But I think the stuff they're doing now is really interesting as well, and actually takes risks, which is more than you can say for 90% of the stuff posted on here. maybe you can refer this one that was just posted to a good home urbanartassociation.com/post/2153924
As I've said in the past, the large number of prints they've put out has hurt their appeal. Their older work has/had a rare and loyal cult following (that very few artists attain), but they've diluted it to a point that not even those people will buy. There's no way they are selling very many when there's only one page of talk about the release in 24 hours. It's felt like smoke and mirrors for many years now. Pre-2008 Faile forever. The conversation has moved on from this forum thanks to the consistent stream of negativity. Thankfully, their real collector base is alive and well, and I'm reminded of that any time I list a piece for sale. I do love pre 2008 Faile. But I think the stuff they're doing now is really interesting as well, and actually takes risks, which is more than you can say for 90% of the stuff posted on here. maybe you can refer this one that was just posted to a good home urbanartassociation.com/post/2153924
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Faile โข Dog Prints, All Editions , by dwight on Feb 3, 2022 16:57:09 GMT 1, As I've said in the past, the large number of prints they've put out has hurt their appeal. Their older work has/had a rare and loyal cult following (that very few artists attain), but they've diluted it to a point that not even those people will buy. There's no way they are selling very many when there's only one page of talk about the release in 24 hours. It's felt like smoke and mirrors for many years now.
Pre-2008 Faile forever.
As I've said in the past, the large number of prints they've put out has hurt their appeal. Their older work has/had a rare and loyal cult following (that very few artists attain), but they've diluted it to a point that not even those people will buy. There's no way they are selling very many when there's only one page of talk about the release in 24 hours. It's felt like smoke and mirrors for many years now.
Pre-2008 Faile forever.
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Bast, by dwight on May 6, 2021 5:54:55 GMT 1, Still feel pretty bummed. Hard to explain to those outside this community, but Bast was one of the original artists that defined street art to me from the beginning.
Still feel pretty bummed. Hard to explain to those outside this community, but Bast was one of the original artists that defined street art to me from the beginning.
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Bast, by dwight on May 4, 2021 1:48:05 GMT 1, Truly a loss for our community. As an artist Bast was brilliant, and his works are some of my all time favorites. Finding his works in NYC and Brooklyn always made me happy and I felt like I connected with the real movement. He was certainly one of the OGs. Although I didn't know him personally, it sounds like he was a wonderful person and friend to those who did. So sad to hear of his passing and my thoughts and prayers go out to his family and loved ones.
Truly a loss for our community. As an artist Bast was brilliant, and his works are some of my all time favorites. Finding his works in NYC and Brooklyn always made me happy and I felt like I connected with the real movement. He was certainly one of the OGs. Although I didn't know him personally, it sounds like he was a wonderful person and friend to those who did. So sad to hear of his passing and my thoughts and prayers go out to his family and loved ones.
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Faile Artwork, VALUATION, by dwight on Jan 2, 2021 23:38:01 GMT 1, Anyone know the value of a red Faile Dog print? Faile ยซDogยป Edition of 500 Size 71 x 55cm Realistically, $650.
Anyone know the value of a red Faile Dog print? Faile ยซDogยป Edition of 500 Size 71 x 55cm Realistically, $650.
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New Faile hand finished edition, by dwight on Nov 21, 2020 6:28:21 GMT 1, If youโre thinking of paying a premium for this print, thereโs an awesome Ganesh torment on eBay you should consider. It isnโt mine and I donโt know the owner but itโs badass.
If youโre thinking of paying a premium for this print, thereโs an awesome Ganesh torment on eBay you should consider. It isnโt mine and I donโt know the owner but itโs badass.
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Recommended Art Books, by dwight on Nov 19, 2020 16:36:16 GMT 1, I'll bet these books sell out much quicker than the print edition.
I'll bet these books sell out much quicker than the print edition.
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Pink Donuts Banksy, by dwight on Nov 19, 2020 16:33:08 GMT 1, Seems not too far off to me
Seems not too far off to me
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Is FAILE over?, by dwight on Aug 18, 2020 17:52:37 GMT 1, I didn't know any had been auctioned recently. Guess I should have searched that, but based on those prices realized, I doubt they would take another unless it was bundled with other quality items in the consignment. Thanks for the information.
I just wonder when Faile won't be able to sell anything no matter how appealing or high quality. It's really sad. I'd love to be proved wrong and shown why they are actually thriving, but I can't see how that could be true.
I didn't know any had been auctioned recently. Guess I should have searched that, but based on those prices realized, I doubt they would take another unless it was bundled with other quality items in the consignment. Thanks for the information.
I just wonder when Faile won't be able to sell anything no matter how appealing or high quality. It's really sad. I'd love to be proved wrong and shown why they are actually thriving, but I can't see how that could be true.
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Is FAILE over?, by dwight on Aug 18, 2020 4:54:48 GMT 1, I sold a savage dreams a while back for around $300. That's basically zero secondary market. I put it up for sale with no reserve to gauge genuine interest.
If you had the best Faile canvas in existence, Christies and Sothebys wouldn't put it in a sale.
I sold a savage dreams a while back for around $300. That's basically zero secondary market. I put it up for sale with no reserve to gauge genuine interest.
If you had the best Faile canvas in existence, Christies and Sothebys wouldn't put it in a sale.
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Is FAILE over?, by dwight on Aug 18, 2020 3:54:41 GMT 1, They're fantastic... but they release a lot of stuff, and unfortunately I don't think their recent releases (over the last couple of years) have been so great. Poor choices of images for prints, etc. Still, they're legends, and their work should be more sort after than it currently is... although they have a fan base still buying up everything they release! I agree that they are fantastic. They pioneered this category and deserve recognition for their early influence. That alone should give them more status. They've had major shows all over the world at well respected museums and institutions.
But somehow there is zero secondary market for their works which leaves me confused. How can there be zero secondary market for such an iconic collective? I don't think Christies or Sothebys would accept even a strong Faile canvas consignment. Am I wrong?
They're fantastic... but they release a lot of stuff, and unfortunately I don't think their recent releases (over the last couple of years) have been so great. Poor choices of images for prints, etc. Still, they're legends, and their work should be more sort after than it currently is... although they have a fan base still buying up everything they release! I agree that they are fantastic. They pioneered this category and deserve recognition for their early influence. That alone should give them more status. They've had major shows all over the world at well respected museums and institutions. But somehow there is zero secondary market for their works which leaves me confused. How can there be zero secondary market for such an iconic collective? I don't think Christies or Sothebys would accept even a strong Faile canvas consignment. Am I wrong?
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Who are the best art advisors or advisory?, by dwight on Aug 18, 2020 2:22:18 GMT 1, Sounds like items best sent to auction. With several nice original works by these artists, you should have enough to get a break on seller's commissions. Using a broker/advisor that you don't know could cost you more than auction commissions. There's a limitless number of people who will "help" you sell these and act as a middle man. If you purchased these directly from the artist or representing gallery, you could see if they might place them for you, but you will pay a commission there too.
Sounds like items best sent to auction. With several nice original works by these artists, you should have enough to get a break on seller's commissions. Using a broker/advisor that you don't know could cost you more than auction commissions. There's a limitless number of people who will "help" you sell these and act as a middle man. If you purchased these directly from the artist or representing gallery, you could see if they might place them for you, but you will pay a commission there too.
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Would like a Banksy, by dwight on Aug 15, 2020 21:17:07 GMT 1, In response to those recommending buying the posters. I can't imagine a world where no one has printed indistinguishable and unlimited copies. It would just be too easy for them to not exist. Just my opinion.
In response to those recommending buying the posters. I can't imagine a world where no one has printed indistinguishable and unlimited copies. It would just be too easy for them to not exist. Just my opinion.
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Bbay, The approved used Banksy dealership, by dwight on Aug 15, 2020 21:06:42 GMT 1, I really hope this bbay thing works out. I'd rather have the source controlling how works are placed. It adds value to works that have been verified and weeds out fakes and the multitude of middlemen. It deflates the hype machine which would be a good move for Banksy. I'm sure they will work something out with Christies and Sothebys that will allow them to auction large value items with pc/bb blessing.
I really hope this bbay thing works out. I'd rather have the source controlling how works are placed. It adds value to works that have been verified and weeds out fakes and the multitude of middlemen. It deflates the hype machine which would be a good move for Banksy. I'm sure they will work something out with Christies and Sothebys that will allow them to auction large value items with pc/bb blessing.
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Banksy Artwork, VALUATION, by dwight on Mar 18, 2019 23:53:33 GMT 1, Any idea how much Banksy Black & White signed Trolleys is please? Thanks for info about Colour trolleys !5-18 GBP seems plausible Anyone have an estimate on the Signed Black and White Trolleys? Thanks.
Any idea how much Banksy Black & White signed Trolleys is please? Thanks for info about Colour trolleys !5-18 GBP seems plausible Anyone have an estimate on the Signed Black and White Trolleys? Thanks.
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Kaws market "reeling"?, by dwight on Mar 16, 2019 22:37:36 GMT 1, I agree that the Kaws canvases will continue to be desirable, but I think that all of the large/open edition dolls and objects will become unsellable.
I agree that the Kaws canvases will continue to be desirable, but I think that all of the large/open edition dolls and objects will become unsellable.
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Kaws market "reeling"?, by dwight on Mar 16, 2019 21:42:14 GMT 1, I think we are approaching a massive correction to the market for urban art. This does not include Kaws canvas works or any Banksy, but I'm staying far away from any prints or kaws items. I think that lots of the artists prints which are discussed on this forum could quickly be worth zero.
I think we are approaching a massive correction to the market for urban art. This does not include Kaws canvas works or any Banksy, but I'm staying far away from any prints or kaws items. I think that lots of the artists prints which are discussed on this forum could quickly be worth zero.
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Who can explain Micallefs market, by dwight on Feb 7, 2019 4:15:54 GMT 1, Here is another outstanding article about flipping, zombie formalism and debt aesthetics: news.artnet.com/opinion/history-zombie-formalism-1318352
Just like Micallef, I think many (including myself) are holding many prints that are going to be worth almost nothing in the not so distant future.
Here is another outstanding article about flipping, zombie formalism and debt aesthetics: news.artnet.com/opinion/history-zombie-formalism-1318352Just like Micallef, I think many (including myself) are holding many prints that are going to be worth almost nothing in the not so distant future.
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SOLD PENDING DELIVERY: Paul Insect - Crystal Habits , by dwight on Jan 27, 2019 2:29:21 GMT 1, I think the issue is when people only take from the forum, but haven't contributed. People sign up for the forum and immediately want to use it to sell something. Also, I'm guessing that one of the reasons people dislike it is that some of these brand new users are sometimes duplicate accounts to sell something because they don't want to use their established account. What are the odds that someone is an experienced collector of this type of art but has never had a forum account.
I think the issue is when people only take from the forum, but haven't contributed. People sign up for the forum and immediately want to use it to sell something. Also, I'm guessing that one of the reasons people dislike it is that some of these brand new users are sometimes duplicate accounts to sell something because they don't want to use their established account. What are the odds that someone is an experienced collector of this type of art but has never had a forum account.
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SOLD PENDING DELIVERY: Paul Insect - Crystal Habits , by dwight on Jan 24, 2019 19:30:09 GMT 1, I'll take three of them...(you've got a multiple of them right?)
I'll take three of them...(you've got a multiple of them right?)
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Faile Artwork, VALUATION, by dwight on Jan 24, 2019 18:55:49 GMT 1, These were signed, numbered and stamped on reverse, at least mine is... Now that you mention that, I faintly remembered that its signed on the reverse. Mine's float mounted so I haven't seen the reverse side in years. Thanks for the info.
These were signed, numbered and stamped on reverse, at least mine is... Now that you mention that, I faintly remembered that its signed on the reverse. Mine's float mounted so I haven't seen the reverse side in years. Thanks for the info.
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Faile Artwork, VALUATION, by dwight on Jan 23, 2019 23:52:32 GMT 1, Didnโt know there where supposed to be US versions of that print.. Stamped 23/24 and Edition 1 on reverse so probably ledgit. I don't think any of those Challenger prints are signed.
Didnโt know there where supposed to be US versions of that print.. Stamped 23/24 and Edition 1 on reverse so probably ledgit. I don't think any of those Challenger prints are signed.
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Faile Artwork, VALUATION, by dwight on Jan 22, 2019 21:56:23 GMT 1, I'd be interested to hear some opinions on this as well. Is this the black dog with the red background? Those used to sell around $2k, but I haven't seen one come available in a long time. Anyone have any current data points?
I'd be interested to hear some opinions on this as well. Is this the black dog with the red background? Those used to sell around $2k, but I haven't seen one come available in a long time. Anyone have any current data points?
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Building a collection, by dwight on Jan 22, 2019 21:38:58 GMT 1, Don't spend your time trying to find the next Banksy. There isn't going to be one. Have a larger perspective of great art and global art trends. Keep up with the major galleries (Gagosian, Hauser&Wirth, Simon Lee, David Zwirner, Pace, Perrotin) and from where they are signing artists. Find mentors who have collected for many years at a high level. Spend more money on each purchase and make very few purchases.
Don't spend your time trying to find the next Banksy. There isn't going to be one. Have a larger perspective of great art and global art trends. Keep up with the major galleries (Gagosian, Hauser&Wirth, Simon Lee, David Zwirner, Pace, Perrotin) and from where they are signing artists. Find mentors who have collected for many years at a high level. Spend more money on each purchase and make very few purchases.
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Anyone else getting bored by urban art?, by dwight on Jan 10, 2019 4:56:28 GMT 1, I think with the profileration of artists and collectors on social media esp. Instagram, you'll hear about an artist much sooner. Given Jonas Wood's meteoric rise on this forum (after the release of his iconic "vote" print), I was curious to see when he was first mentioned on this forum. A search later, I discovered it was me in 2016 (you're welcome). A few of the other artists I mentioned have done pretty well too... Daniel Turner has become very well known with shows all over the globe and could easily sign with a major if he chose to, Jeff Zilm is now with Simon Lee, and Ryan Mrozowski did a show at Simon Lee and there is a wait list to buy his orange paintings. Ryan McLaughlin is still highly underrated and scarce. That's very true. Instagram creates a very powerful way for artists to quickly gain exposure. I do think that users are more sensitive than they used to be in regards to distinguishing between authentic content and hype.
I think with the profileration of artists and collectors on social media esp. Instagram, you'll hear about an artist much sooner. Given Jonas Wood's meteoric rise on this forum (after the release of his iconic "vote" print), I was curious to see when he was first mentioned on this forum. A search later, I discovered it was me in 2016 (you're welcome). A few of the other artists I mentioned have done pretty well too... Daniel Turner has become very well known with shows all over the globe and could easily sign with a major if he chose to, Jeff Zilm is now with Simon Lee, and Ryan Mrozowski did a show at Simon Lee and there is a wait list to buy his orange paintings. Ryan McLaughlin is still highly underrated and scarce. That's very true. Instagram creates a very powerful way for artists to quickly gain exposure. I do think that users are more sensitive than they used to be in regards to distinguishing between authentic content and hype.
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Anyone else getting bored by urban art?, by dwight on Jan 10, 2019 4:27:32 GMT 1, Same here...next time Banksy chooses to do a show or stunt, the interest will be as fervent as it ever was. Banksy is too expensive for me (in the sense that I now prefer to buy unique canvases or objects for $10k+ money) Bast, Faile, and Paul Insect are still very cool to me and get me excited, but I'm only buying top quality unique or almost unique. I'm out on print releases. I started buying Dave Kinsey prints for $50 and now all are worthless, but that's ok. The love of art and collecting that grew from those experiences has left me with an evolved collection and collecting strategy. I'll always treasure my Banksy, Bast, Faile prints, but now I buy higher quality unique canvases and objects with less frequency. Current favorites (not really urban art): Daniel Turner, Jeff Zilm, John Houck, Ryan McLaughlin, Ryan Mrozowski, Jonas Wood, Daniel Arsham Given Jonas Wood's meteoric rise on this forum (after the release of his iconic "vote" print), I was curious to see when he was first mentioned on this forum. A search later, I discovered it was me in 2016 (you're welcome). A few of the other artists I mentioned have done pretty well too... Daniel Turner has become very well known with shows all over the globe and could easily sign with a major if he chose to, Jeff Zilm is now with Simon Lee, and Ryan Mrozowski did a show at Simon Lee and there is a wait list to buy his orange paintings. Ryan McLaughlin is still highly underrated and scarce.
Same here...next time Banksy chooses to do a show or stunt, the interest will be as fervent as it ever was. Banksy is too expensive for me (in the sense that I now prefer to buy unique canvases or objects for $10k+ money) Bast, Faile, and Paul Insect are still very cool to me and get me excited, but I'm only buying top quality unique or almost unique. I'm out on print releases. I started buying Dave Kinsey prints for $50 and now all are worthless, but that's ok. The love of art and collecting that grew from those experiences has left me with an evolved collection and collecting strategy. I'll always treasure my Banksy, Bast, Faile prints, but now I buy higher quality unique canvases and objects with less frequency. Current favorites (not really urban art): Daniel Turner, Jeff Zilm, John Houck, Ryan McLaughlin, Ryan Mrozowski, Jonas Wood, Daniel Arsham Given Jonas Wood's meteoric rise on this forum (after the release of his iconic "vote" print), I was curious to see when he was first mentioned on this forum. A search later, I discovered it was me in 2016 (you're welcome). A few of the other artists I mentioned have done pretty well too... Daniel Turner has become very well known with shows all over the globe and could easily sign with a major if he chose to, Jeff Zilm is now with Simon Lee, and Ryan Mrozowski did a show at Simon Lee and there is a wait list to buy his orange paintings. Ryan McLaughlin is still highly underrated and scarce.
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FAILE New Print: WONDER WHEEL 250, by dwight on Jan 10, 2019 0:43:04 GMT 1, Given how long the โtimedโ open edition Faile dog have been available Iโd say this release (and many of their recent) have been pulled rather than sold out. Sad to see this coming... believe they need a new change in direction. I was just thinking the same thing, but was trying to hold off on being negative about an artist that I have collected over the years. This recent Faile dog is an excellent print of an iconic Faile image. Indeed very sad. Possibly its just an enormous number of prints but either way, it creates uncertainty and demonstrates that Faile intends to keep flooding out new prints. I was hopeful that they would limit this release.
Given how long the โtimedโ open edition Faile dog have been available Iโd say this release (and many of their recent) have been pulled rather than sold out. Sad to see this coming... believe they need a new change in direction. I was just thinking the same thing, but was trying to hold off on being negative about an artist that I have collected over the years. This recent Faile dog is an excellent print of an iconic Faile image. Indeed very sad. Possibly its just an enormous number of prints but either way, it creates uncertainty and demonstrates that Faile intends to keep flooding out new prints. I was hopeful that they would limit this release.
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Jonas Wood โข VOTE, by dwight on Jan 3, 2019 3:29:41 GMT 1, Check the other thread about this print, someone said it was one of Jonas Woods greatest prints! (He was also selling one so not sure if he was biased)
Check the other thread about this print, someone said it was one of Jonas Woods greatest prints! (He was also selling one so not sure if he was biased)
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