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Damien Hirst - The Archangels , by Pawel on Apr 23, 2024 13:41:44 GMT 1, These are nice. People complained about times editions, these are limited to 100. People complained about the printing on aluminium, these are on paper. People complained about cheap paper, these come already framed. People complained about the signature bring on a label on the back, these are signed on the front. Low edition, decent images, good size.
I will pass, I'd rather to spend in on something else.
These are nice. People complained about times editions, these are limited to 100. People complained about the printing on aluminium, these are on paper. People complained about cheap paper, these come already framed. People complained about the signature bring on a label on the back, these are signed on the front. Low edition, decent images, good size.
I will pass, I'd rather to spend in on something else.
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Albert willem prices?, by Pawel on Apr 20, 2024 10:37:20 GMT 1, I'm just super interested by the mechanics of this. So talking hard data, I've plotted all the auction results on Artsy since he first appeared in May 2022 until today. There's 51 results with prices - three of these were brought in (Nov 2022, Mar 2023 and Mar 2024) and in total there were US$4,859,655 of sales with fees. A few of these were less than 20k aside from the recent one, including in Mar 2023 and two in Dec 2023. So what's the play here? Are all $5m in sales by the syndicate or only a bunch of them? And are they just selling to themselves, unless third parties jump in (so the only loss is auction fees)? Are the low results where the syndicate decided to let market forces set price / they weren't sales initiated by them? I know eg the Warhol market is controlled by effectively 5 players who have a syndicate to ensure his prices meet a certain threshold (including buying in underperforming works), but just intrigued how a pump and dump works with emerging ones. I guess the idea is to sell and buy a fee works at auction for inflated prices ie 150k. The works are your own or your friends so you're only down auction fees and taxes. You hope that the trend will catch up. Prices are so high, I've heard Gagosian will represent him.
At the same time you sell 30-40 works for a bargain 50k apiece. After a while everyone sees no show or gallery rep is gonna happen and prices dive.
I'm just super interested by the mechanics of this. So talking hard data, I've plotted all the auction results on Artsy since he first appeared in May 2022 until today. There's 51 results with prices - three of these were brought in (Nov 2022, Mar 2023 and Mar 2024) and in total there were US$4,859,655 of sales with fees. A few of these were less than 20k aside from the recent one, including in Mar 2023 and two in Dec 2023. So what's the play here? Are all $5m in sales by the syndicate or only a bunch of them? And are they just selling to themselves, unless third parties jump in (so the only loss is auction fees)? Are the low results where the syndicate decided to let market forces set price / they weren't sales initiated by them? I know eg the Warhol market is controlled by effectively 5 players who have a syndicate to ensure his prices meet a certain threshold (including buying in underperforming works), but just intrigued how a pump and dump works with emerging ones. I guess the idea is to sell and buy a fee works at auction for inflated prices ie 150k. The works are your own or your friends so you're only down auction fees and taxes. You hope that the trend will catch up. Prices are so high, I've heard Gagosian will represent him. At the same time you sell 30-40 works for a bargain 50k apiece. After a while everyone sees no show or gallery rep is gonna happen and prices dive.
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Ed Ruscha - New Avant Arte print release - SPAM, by Pawel on Apr 14, 2024 9:03:11 GMT 1,
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Anyone looking to sell a signed GWB?, by Pawel on Mar 28, 2024 19:26:38 GMT 1, Just got an email: Banksy
Girl with Balloon (Signed), 2005
Signed and numbered Pest Control COA
Screen print on paper
70 x 50 cm. 27 1/2 x 19 3/4 in.
Edition of 150
(BANKSY WEB 0001)
ยฃ265,000 GBP
Just got an email: Banksy
Girl with Balloon (Signed), 2005
Signed and numbered Pest Control COA
Screen print on paper
70 x 50 cm. 27 1/2 x 19 3/4 in.
Edition of 150
(BANKSY WEB 0001)
ยฃ265,000 GBP
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Ed Ruscha - New Avant Arte print release - SPAM, by Pawel on Mar 28, 2024 13:13:00 GMT 1, Stunningโฆ A shame, so ugly imo. Prefer just a numeration Not a fan of it. Would probably frame out.
Stunningโฆ A shame, so ugly imo. Prefer just a numeration Not a fan of it. Would probably frame out.
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Ed Ruscha - New Avant Arte print release - SPAM, by Pawel on Mar 26, 2024 11:00:19 GMT 1, I would be shocked if its below $1k.
I would be shocked if its below $1k.
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Ai Weiwei, Sunflower Seed, 2024, by Pawel on Mar 23, 2024 14:42:52 GMT 1, Now up to 6000 GBP. They seem far from sold out though. I'm shocked they sold 30 (assuming that's how the numbering works )
Now up to 6000 GBP. They seem far from sold out though. I'm shocked they sold 30 (assuming that's how the numbering works )
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What is the worst print you have ever seen?, by Pawel on Mar 21, 2024 1:10:41 GMT 1, This thread is not about artists you dont like but about the worst print you have ever seen...
This thread is not about artists you dont like but about the worst print you have ever seen...
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Sam Durant ๐บ๐ธ Multimedia Artist โข End White Supremacy , by Pawel on Mar 19, 2024 12:07:39 GMT 1, For reference
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'Shut up and eat your fries' - new Shrigley release, by Pawel on Mar 16, 2024 21:53:18 GMT 1, Is this Louis CK reference?
Is this Louis CK reference?
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Ai Weiwei, Sunflower Seed, 2024, by Pawel on Mar 16, 2024 17:12:07 GMT 1, If it gets destroyed or stolen, can you simply build a new one? Curious whether the bricks are glued
If it gets destroyed or stolen, can you simply build a new one? Curious whether the bricks are glued
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Ai Weiwei, Sunflower Seed, 2024, by Pawel on Mar 15, 2024 15:46:18 GMT 1, It's a 48x48 Lego piece so I wouldn't be too critical about the image. That said I really don't like the label. just make it a bit bigger 38 x 38 cms I meant studs
It's a 48x48 Lego piece so I wouldn't be too critical about the image. That said I really don't like the label. just make it a bit bigger 38 x 38 cms I meant studs
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Ai Weiwei, Sunflower Seed, 2024, by Pawel on Mar 15, 2024 14:13:38 GMT 1, It's a 48x48 Lego piece so I wouldn't be too critical about the image. That said I really don't like the label. just make it a bit bigger
It's a 48x48 Lego piece so I wouldn't be too critical about the image. That said I really don't like the label. just make it a bit bigger
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Ai Weiwei, Sunflower Seed, 2024, by Pawel on Mar 15, 2024 13:58:36 GMT 1, I'm a Lego fan and could live with the image being a bit uninspiring, but not at the price. Maybe at 80% off, probably at 90% off.
I'm a Lego fan and could live with the image being a bit uninspiring, but not at the price. Maybe at 80% off, probably at 90% off.
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Ai Weiwei Signed Umbrellas (sic), by Pawel on Mar 15, 2024 10:35:06 GMT 1, It is a bit of a head scratcher to be honest. At least DH is somewhat more consistent with the type of releases. AW all over the place. A classic vase from AA for 1k makes sense. An umbrella for 1k? Not so much. Anyone remembers that Taschen zodiak thingy for 3k?
It is a bit of a head scratcher to be honest. At least DH is somewhat more consistent with the type of releases. AW all over the place. A classic vase from AA for 1k makes sense. An umbrella for 1k? Not so much. Anyone remembers that Taschen zodiak thingy for 3k?
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George Condo ๐บ๐ธ New Print Release โข Print For Sale, by Pawel on Mar 12, 2024 20:21:50 GMT 1, Just a reminder
Just a reminder
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Damien Hirst - The Light That Shines, by Pawel on Mar 11, 2024 21:07:01 GMT 1, You can say what you like about Mr Hirst but at least we discuss the release unlike the Kawsโ drop tomorrow.
You can say what you like about Mr Hirst but at least we discuss the release unlike the Kawsโ drop tomorrow.
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BITCOIN halving, by Pawel on Mar 8, 2024 12:52:38 GMT 1, Is there an option to block a thread?
Is there an option to block a thread?
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George Condo ๐บ๐ธ New Print Release โข Print For Sale, by Pawel on Mar 6, 2024 18:28:53 GMT 1, AA to be honest I'm not sure what the discussion is about. AA states minimum 15 will be available as a draw. So what happens with the other 135? Im not sure but I doubt they will use it as a wallpaper in their office.
AA to be honest I'm not sure what the discussion is about. AA states minimum 15 will be available as a draw. So what happens with the other 135? Im not sure but I doubt they will use it as a wallpaper in their office.
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Ai Weiwei Coca-Cola Glass Vase, by Pawel on Mar 6, 2024 14:26:12 GMT 1, Quite a few of them given the no resale thingy.
Quite a few of them given the no resale thingy.
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Nan Goldin, by Pawel on Mar 6, 2024 13:59:41 GMT 1, And gone.
And gone.
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Nan Goldin, by Pawel on Mar 6, 2024 13:26:09 GMT 1, Thanks guys for all the info.
Thanks guys for all the info.
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Nan Goldin, by Pawel on Mar 6, 2024 11:48:51 GMT 1, Well, itโs limited, signed and numbered. Seems like a bargain to me. I like her work and I bought one :-) And a decent image as well.
Well, itโs limited, signed and numbered. Seems like a bargain to me. I like her work and I bought one :-) And a decent image as well.
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Damien Hirst - The Archangels, by Pawel on Mar 3, 2024 13:10:00 GMT 1, These are actually pretty nice and certainly way better than the hideous di-bonds. Shame they're also giclees and that he's taking a giant shit on his print market. I hope for everyone's sake these are cheap. What do you think release price on these will be? Around $5k? I'd say 3k, hopinf for even less. 5k would be a minimum for an open edition.
These are actually pretty nice and certainly way better than the hideous di-bonds. Shame they're also giclees and that he's taking a giant shit on his print market. I hope for everyone's sake these are cheap. What do you think release price on these will be? Around $5k? I'd say 3k, hopinf for even less. 5k would be a minimum for an open edition.
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New Invader show in Paris, by Pawel on Mar 2, 2024 13:28:37 GMT 1, I believe this is the print. 100 screen prints (19 ร 28 cm format) of the work โPA_1500โ 2024, numbered, dated and signed by the artist Invader with a unit value of 1000 (one thousand) euros. I would go very nicely with that obey colab print that is terrible.
I believe this is the print. 100 screen prints (19 ร 28 cm format) of the work โPA_1500โ 2024, numbered, dated and signed by the artist Invader with a unit value of 1000 (one thousand) euros. I would go very nicely with that obey colab print that is terrible.
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Damien Hirst - The Archangels, by Pawel on Mar 1, 2024 17:05:21 GMT 1, These look really nice. Itโs not too late for them to turn it into a timed edition! ๐ They can be cheaper if it's limited
These look really nice. Itโs not too late for them to turn it into a timed edition! ๐ They can be cheaper if it's limited
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