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Banksy exit through the gift shop monkey mask on Ebay, by mla on Aug 5, 2017 15:35:56 GMT 1, Obviously yours? This is the third time you've posted it now.
Obviously yours? This is the third time you've posted it now.
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My huge sale thread (Invader, Dran, Dolk, Eelus, Zevs etc.), by mla on Aug 5, 2017 15:34:07 GMT 1, Will someone livestream the savage beating this fellow is sure to receive when the time comes?
Will someone livestream the savage beating this fellow is sure to receive when the time comes?
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Thoughts on Sandra Chevrier x Martin Whatson, by mla on Aug 5, 2017 15:26:35 GMT 1, I don't think either are particularly good at what they do, so when you stick them both in a blender, what comes out ain't pretty.
Whatson is mediocre with his stencil work and has no roots in tagging, so his faux tagging shtick is a joke. Beyond his lack of technical skills, I find the work devoid of any real meaning or message. The creative process seems to be "what can I ejaculate these faux tags on next?"
Chevrier paints at a community college level, at best. Thankfully, the portraits are covered in comic books, which I will admit, in the early days she excelled at tearing and pasting. The one redeeming quality in her work is that there is an actual meaning that she strives for.
Regardless of my opinions, both have found a fan base that appreciates their work and good on them for making it in a tough business. It's hard to fault them for doing what pays the bills.
I don't think either are particularly good at what they do, so when you stick them both in a blender, what comes out ain't pretty.
Whatson is mediocre with his stencil work and has no roots in tagging, so his faux tagging shtick is a joke. Beyond his lack of technical skills, I find the work devoid of any real meaning or message. The creative process seems to be "what can I ejaculate these faux tags on next?"
Chevrier paints at a community college level, at best. Thankfully, the portraits are covered in comic books, which I will admit, in the early days she excelled at tearing and pasting. The one redeeming quality in her work is that there is an actual meaning that she strives for.
Regardless of my opinions, both have found a fan base that appreciates their work and good on them for making it in a tough business. It's hard to fault them for doing what pays the bills.
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Invader โข Invasion Kits IK, by mla on Aug 5, 2017 14:28:02 GMT 1, *provenance
*provenance
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Whitefish ๐บ๐ธ Painting โข Show News โข Art For Sale, by mla on Aug 4, 2017 23:04:16 GMT 1, Whitefish is NOT a bullshitter!!!
Whitefish is NOT a bullshitter!!!
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WCP The West Country Prince, by mla on Aug 3, 2017 20:17:01 GMT 1, Even at 60 quid, his markup is several hundred percent, and that's if someone is doing the printing for him.
Even at 60 quid, his markup is several hundred percent, and that's if someone is doing the printing for him.
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WCP The West Country Prince, by mla on Aug 3, 2017 19:47:10 GMT 1, Until a bootlegger like this is offered twice the amount for one without the stamp on the back. Doesn't that then muddy the waters. I guess it would, but we would be moving the goal post at that point. I am trying to make the point that since he isn't passing them off as official and has them labeled as reproductions, he isn't violating Banksy's request, whereas you just proposed that if he did sell one or more and didn't label them as reproductions, then what? Do I still maintain the same position: that he isn't violating Banksy's request? No, I do not, because you have changed the entire premise of the argument.
You are ignoring the "personal use" portion of the quote, which renders your position on the matter invalid.
Did you not actually read the quote? It says very specifically that he offers the images for personal use: "You're welcome to download whatever you wish from this site for personal use."Can I take the image I've downloaded to WCP and pay him to print it for me?
Should you be able to take it to a printer to create one copy for yourself? Yes, although any self respecting printer will likely not agree to print an artist's work without their direct permission.
Until a bootlegger like this is offered twice the amount for one without the stamp on the back. Doesn't that then muddy the waters. I guess it would, but we would be moving the goal post at that point. I am trying to make the point that since he isn't passing them off as official and has them labeled as reproductions, he isn't violating Banksy's request, whereas you just proposed that if he did sell one or more and didn't label them as reproductions, then what? Do I still maintain the same position: that he isn't violating Banksy's request? No, I do not, because you have changed the entire premise of the argument. You are ignoring the "personal use" portion of the quote, which renders your position on the matter invalid. Did you not actually read the quote? It says very specifically that he offers the images for personal use: "You're welcome to download whatever you wish from this site for personal use."Can I take the image I've downloaded to WCP and pay him to print it for me? Should you be able to take it to a printer to create one copy for yourself? Yes, although any self respecting printer will likely not agree to print an artist's work without their direct permission.
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WCP The West Country Prince, by mla on Aug 3, 2017 19:21:58 GMT 1, WCP is not printing them for personal use, he is printing them for personal gain. His quote doesn't mention anything about whether the printing is done for personal use or personal gain and neither did mine. It seems as you have an issue with him gaining something from it, not Banksy. It says don't pass it off as official. Bootleggers and counterfeiters create copies to fool people into thinking they are buying authentic goods. These are created as reproductions and sold as reproductions. Did you not actually read the quote? It says very specifically that he offers the images for personal use:
"You're welcome to download whatever you wish from this site for personal use."
WCP is not printing them for personal use, he is printing them for personal gain. His quote doesn't mention anything about whether the printing is done for personal use or personal gain and neither did mine. It seems as you have an issue with him gaining something from it, not Banksy. It says don't pass it off as official. Bootleggers and counterfeiters create copies to fool people into thinking they are buying authentic goods. These are created as reproductions and sold as reproductions. Did you not actually read the quote? It says very specifically that he offers the images for personal use: "You're welcome to download whatever you wish from this site for personal use."
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WCP The West Country Prince, by mla on Aug 3, 2017 18:28:48 GMT 1, Play around with this: web.archive.org/web/20130406094332/http://www.banksy.co.uk:80/shop/shop21.html
The link also features the relevant quote: "You're welcome to download whatever you wish from this site for personal use. However, making your own art or merchandise and passing it off as โofficialโ or authentic Banksy artwork is bad and very wrong."
As for the rest, I'm not so sure why this is so hard to understand. WCP is mass producing work he doesn't own and is making a profit off it. For you to print the image at home for your personal use would not be a problem.
Play around with this: web.archive.org/web/20130406094332/http://www.banksy.co.uk:80/shop/shop21.htmlThe link also features the relevant quote: "You're welcome to download whatever you wish from this site for personal use. However, making your own art or merchandise and passing it off as โofficialโ or authentic Banksy artwork is bad and very wrong." As for the rest, I'm not so sure why this is so hard to understand. WCP is mass producing work he doesn't own and is making a profit off it. For you to print the image at home for your personal use would not be a problem.
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Bloomberg, by mla on Aug 3, 2017 15:33:21 GMT 1, Slack is another option for those who can't afford the 24k a year.
Slack is another option for those who can't afford the 24k a year.
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WCP The West Country Prince, by mla on Aug 3, 2017 15:27:27 GMT 1, Why do you think you are entitled to own an iconic piece of an in demand artist's work for next to nothing?
"I can't afford the real thing" is not a valid excuse to support the parasites who create counterfeit or replica goods.
Why do you think you are entitled to own an iconic piece of an in demand artist's work for next to nothing?
"I can't afford the real thing" is not a valid excuse to support the parasites who create counterfeit or replica goods.
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doodie sandwich, by mla on Aug 3, 2017 15:05:42 GMT 1, Tax in the USA is out of control one of the main reason's why I have chosen not to move there. It's beyond a joke how punitive the taxation system is, and don't think you can escape paying tax on anything you sell on eBay or any other on the QT sale, tax inspection isn't a job in the US it's a business, they go out of their way to investigate you, and if you are found to have diddled the system for even a small amount you're F*****, though of course if you're a huge multinational then you're ok. You think the US is bad? Come to Canada. we have taxes on top of taxes It's not really that bad...From an employment income perspective, it's actually very similar. Consumption taxes are higher to varying degrees when comparing different States to different Provinces, but I'm OK with that.
Tax in the USA is out of control one of the main reason's why I have chosen not to move there. It's beyond a joke how punitive the taxation system is, and don't think you can escape paying tax on anything you sell on eBay or any other on the QT sale, tax inspection isn't a job in the US it's a business, they go out of their way to investigate you, and if you are found to have diddled the system for even a small amount you're F*****, though of course if you're a huge multinational then you're ok. You think the US is bad? Come to Canada. we have taxes on top of taxes It's not really that bad...From an employment income perspective, it's actually very similar. Consumption taxes are higher to varying degrees when comparing different States to different Provinces, but I'm OK with that.
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Contemporary Art Forum, by mla on Aug 3, 2017 14:43:12 GMT 1, I haven't found anything like what you are looking for. Not sure it exists.
I haven't found anything like what you are looking for. Not sure it exists.
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Contemporary Art Forum, by mla on Aug 3, 2017 14:28:09 GMT 1, Unfortunately, Artchival is basically dead. It's just sleepboy posting to himself.
Unfortunately, Artchival is basically dead. It's just sleepboy posting to himself.
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doodie sandwich, by mla on Aug 2, 2017 22:22:24 GMT 1, mint $5000usd plus ship local to nyc. open to meet up. Please dm if interested. Not open to offers. thank you Why buy it if you didn't want it? To make money?
mint $5000usd plus ship local to nyc. open to meet up. Please dm if interested. Not open to offers. thank you Why buy it if you didn't want it? To make money?
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For Sale: Pose/Jordan Nickel - Reaction #1 Framed, by mla on Aug 2, 2017 20:50:12 GMT 1, I think just the glazing would be ~$100 wholesale these days. If your framer is doing that for $100, he is losing money.
I think just the glazing would be ~$100 wholesale these days. If your framer is doing that for $100, he is losing money.
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Banksy โข Girl With Red Balloon Print, by mla on Aug 2, 2017 15:28:16 GMT 1, Glad to see you didn't let those parasites pull a fast one on you.
Glad to see you didn't let those parasites pull a fast one on you.
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Ripper1331 ๐บ๐ธ Crucipod โข Print Release โข Art For Sale, by mla on Aug 2, 2017 14:03:56 GMT 1, More 7 year old sticky threads?
More 7 year old sticky threads?
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Invader, Katrin Fridiks, Mr. A (Andrรฉ), by mla on Jul 31, 2017 18:53:02 GMT 1, While people are using their time machines to go purchase the print from that auction, could you please drop by 2010 and pick me up a couple hundred thousand bitcoins for less than a cent each?
While people are using their time machines to go purchase the print from that auction, could you please drop by 2010 and pick me up a couple hundred thousand bitcoins for less than a cent each?
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WCP The West Country Prince, by mla on Jul 31, 2017 18:26:34 GMT 1, Glad they are back up. Just bought a Rude Copper. I need something to look at as I sit in my fake Eames chair, sipping my counterfeit Lafite and admiring my knock off Rolex.
Glad they are back up. Just bought a Rude Copper. I need something to look at as I sit in my fake Eames chair, sipping my counterfeit Lafite and admiring my knock off Rolex.
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Zedsy ๐ฌ๐ง Street Art โข New Print Release , by mla on Jul 31, 2017 15:27:56 GMT 1, It's the UBER logo...
It's the UBER logo...
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Pejac โข Linea Print, by mla on Jul 27, 2017 19:13:39 GMT 1, You'd have to pay me to hang one.
You'd have to pay me to hang one.
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Who's puts the most love in to editions., by mla on Jul 27, 2017 19:12:50 GMT 1, AEC and Waone of Interesni Kazki have several prints with a 1 layer black screen and then 100% of the colour painted by hand. Several hours of time spent with each print.
AEC and Waone of Interesni Kazki have several prints with a 1 layer black screen and then 100% of the colour painted by hand. Several hours of time spent with each print.
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Your latest Art Purchase?, by mla on Jul 27, 2017 15:54:45 GMT 1, Agreed. Fantastic, k2.
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Pejac - Scattercrow print, by mla on Jul 27, 2017 14:43:28 GMT 1, As I said, I only see it on the left side...
As I said, I only see it on the left side...
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Pejac - Scattercrow print, by mla on Jul 27, 2017 14:08:23 GMT 1, If it is from the stone, why is it only on the left side and not around the entire image area? Perhaps just the lighting?
If it is from the stone, why is it only on the left side and not around the entire image area? Perhaps just the lighting?
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Pejac - Scattercrow print, by mla on Jul 27, 2017 13:43:06 GMT 1, It looks like there is an indent in the paper running up the left side about 2 inches in -- what is that?
I still have no idea why they were dead set on shipping these flat.
It looks like there is an indent in the paper running up the left side about 2 inches in -- what is that?
I still have no idea why they were dead set on shipping these flat.
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New Conor Harrington, Monday Morning Glory, by mla on Jul 27, 2017 4:23:44 GMT 1, .....Half of this release are on Ebay.... How do you get your art out to real fans? I don't know! But I will not be paying 3/4 times the release value..... Lets hope that CH doesn't fall out of favour and drop in popularity eh? I think that galleries want their art flipped, it increases value and creates hype, yes? ...No, I'm out! Your math sucks. I see 3 prints on eBay, out of an edition of 100, which is 3%, not 50%.
.....Half of this release are on Ebay.... How do you get your art out to real fans? I don't know! But I will not be paying 3/4 times the release value..... Lets hope that CH doesn't fall out of favour and drop in popularity eh? I think that galleries want their art flipped, it increases value and creates hype, yes? ...No, I'm out! Your math sucks. I see 3 prints on eBay, out of an edition of 100, which is 3%, not 50%.
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New prints from Revok, AJ Fosik, Richard Colman & others..., by mla on Jul 27, 2017 4:20:55 GMT 1, Big fan of Fosik, but prefer the more sculptural original works.
Big fan of Fosik, but prefer the more sculptural original works.
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