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Gallery 727 - Great customer service, by lobster on Feb 2, 2021 15:05:52 GMT 1, Argylepaul - I am pleased Luis has refunded you and you are pleased with his service - he is a very fair guy however it was actually by my design that you were refunded above your costs which I am paying for.
Luis was actually sold 4 ( not 6 of these ) and it was last year - not ten years ago (!!!) and we agreed between us that I would of course bear the cost of any refunds and ( in the same way both myself / Tate Ward have done the same for others affected) - these costs have also included shipping/framing, etc etc.
As Danny mentioned in another thread we contacted the police at an early stage and urge anyone else who has been affected to do the same - this is of course why Danny posted the Police department and officer concerned in the first place.
Due to this matter being part of a police investigation for obvious reasons I am not going to make any further comment and once again if you feel you have been affected and not been contacted then please do get in touch.
What is clear as mentioned early on in a previous thread is that there were fakes of these sold almost as soon as they were released so please only get in touch if they came from myself / Tate Ward !!!
What I can say is that myself / Tate Ward have never sold any Banksy Tesco to Stowe Gallery who incidentally have both consigned and bought through Tate Ward and have been great to deal with.
Argylepaul - I am pleased Luis has refunded you and you are pleased with his service - he is a very fair guy however it was actually by my design that you were refunded above your costs which I am paying for.
Luis was actually sold 4 ( not 6 of these ) and it was last year - not ten years ago (!!!) and we agreed between us that I would of course bear the cost of any refunds and ( in the same way both myself / Tate Ward have done the same for others affected) - these costs have also included shipping/framing, etc etc.
As Danny mentioned in another thread we contacted the police at an early stage and urge anyone else who has been affected to do the same - this is of course why Danny posted the Police department and officer concerned in the first place.
Due to this matter being part of a police investigation for obvious reasons I am not going to make any further comment and once again if you feel you have been affected and not been contacted then please do get in touch.
What is clear as mentioned early on in a previous thread is that there were fakes of these sold almost as soon as they were released so please only get in touch if they came from myself / Tate Ward !!!
What I can say is that myself / Tate Ward have never sold any Banksy Tesco to Stowe Gallery who incidentally have both consigned and bought through Tate Ward and have been great to deal with.
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Banksy โข Tesco Petrol Bomb Poster, by lobster on Nov 28, 2020 12:26:44 GMT 1, Thanks Andy Pandy - I appreciate the input.
The legal route is possibly not the answer but it is a route I intend to go whether I can spell defamation or not .... I / Tate Ward have a clear audit trail where these have come from and as I keep saying I would never knowingly sell anything I believed to be fake.
Maybe it was always going to be the case but when people are posting what they are, setting up new accounts , calling me a cunt etc etc I really have no choice
Your 100% right it would make sense to contact people rather than wait until they contact me which I will do and Tate Ward will be doing the same.
As mentioned above the one sold in October was consigned by a long-standing member here and we could potentially use that to compare others too.
Thanks Andy Pandy - I appreciate the input.
The legal route is possibly not the answer but it is a route I intend to go whether I can spell defamation or not .... I / Tate Ward have a clear audit trail where these have come from and as I keep saying I would never knowingly sell anything I believed to be fake.
Maybe it was always going to be the case but when people are posting what they are, setting up new accounts , calling me a cunt etc etc I really have no choice
Your 100% right it would make sense to contact people rather than wait until they contact me which I will do and Tate Ward will be doing the same.
As mentioned above the one sold in October was consigned by a long-standing member here and we could potentially use that to compare others too.
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Banksy โข Tesco Petrol Bomb Poster, by lobster on Nov 28, 2020 10:28:01 GMT 1, I said I would keep this to PM however I want to answer Jamie's point and reiterate my position.
We certainly did have that conversation in Septemeber and since then Tate Ward has sole one " Tesco Petrol " in our October sale - this was consigned by a long-standing forum member who I am not going to name however is, of course, welcome to post here if he wants to. What we haven't done is changed the image on the website which I didn't realise - if the vendor/buyer agree then I am happy to send these images to anyone who asks for them.
Jamie's comment about " the cash rolling in " is once again unfounded.
I have tried to be as fair as I can and I believe agreeing to offer a refund to anyone who has bought any works off me or Tate Ward whether they believe them to be fake or not illustrates this however this is clearly not enough for Jamie.
Once again I want to state that I have never knowingly sold any works that I believed were fake and I am now going to look back through this thread and I intend to sue anyone who has said I have for deformation - trust me this is not an " idle threat " and I can't imagine that setting up a new forum name with a single post etc is going to offer much protection against a social media libel claim but it looks like we are going to find out.
Finally, if anyone does have any issues please contact me ASAP and I will try and sort any issues out to the best of my ability and as quickly as possible.
I said I would keep this to PM however I want to answer Jamie's point and reiterate my position.
We certainly did have that conversation in Septemeber and since then Tate Ward has sole one " Tesco Petrol " in our October sale - this was consigned by a long-standing forum member who I am not going to name however is, of course, welcome to post here if he wants to. What we haven't done is changed the image on the website which I didn't realise - if the vendor/buyer agree then I am happy to send these images to anyone who asks for them.
Jamie's comment about " the cash rolling in " is once again unfounded.
I have tried to be as fair as I can and I believe agreeing to offer a refund to anyone who has bought any works off me or Tate Ward whether they believe them to be fake or not illustrates this however this is clearly not enough for Jamie.
Once again I want to state that I have never knowingly sold any works that I believed were fake and I am now going to look back through this thread and I intend to sue anyone who has said I have for deformation - trust me this is not an " idle threat " and I can't imagine that setting up a new forum name with a single post etc is going to offer much protection against a social media libel claim but it looks like we are going to find out.
Finally, if anyone does have any issues please contact me ASAP and I will try and sort any issues out to the best of my ability and as quickly as possible.
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Banksy โข Tesco Petrol Bomb Poster, by lobster on Nov 28, 2020 0:46:35 GMT 1, I have just been sent this thread as well as having received a PM and I am certainly not looking to avoid the situation / not respond.
Jamie was sold a fake - it was shocking and he was 100% correct - I refunded his money and postage straight away and also spoke to him - I felt that I demonstrated to him that I didn't realise it was a fake ( or of course I would never have sold it in the first place ) but Jamie clearly doesn't believe me and instead chooses to talk about a personal conversation we had - that's cool - Jamie is cleary aggrieved and nothing I say or do is going to change his mind. I do think talking about my personal art collection etc is a bit " strong " but I suppose it is what it is.
This thread has clearly developed into a lot of madness / insanity from me selling these on Instragram through to having an ebay account selling expensive oil paintings to I assume (??) having something to do with selling fake " Wrong War " posters !?!?!?!?!
Aside from the madness what is 100% correct that somebody posted ( possibly Jamie ) is that anyone to have bought one of these, framed it, and stuck it on their wall only to find out it is fake is more than " shitty " - its absolutely fucking vile and I every sympathy.
I, therefore, want to make a few points -
Firstly, after looking at Jamie's - his is VERY different from the others that have been sold by both me and Tate Ward and although his is clearly fake it certainly doesn't mean others are.
Secondly, I would NEVER sell anything that I believed was a fake - on each occasion, they were sold/consigned to / by me I believed they came from a genuine source, and on some occasions ( to be fair not all) they were taken in from people who had consigned other more valuable works.
Finally, if anyone has ANY doubts whatsoever about the authenticity of a Tesco Petrol ( or in fact anything I / Tate Ward have sold them ) or indeed simply the fact that I sold Jamie a fake ( all be it not knowingly ) is so unpalatable to them then I will give them a full/unequivocal refund.
The only caveat I would add is that I would like to get the work I sold them back - someone posted ( I assume sarcastically ' I wonder why ") and the answer is quite simply I, in turn, want to try and get my money back.
I will only be answering PMs or of course, anyone I sold one too should have my number etc so please feel free to contact me.
What I am going to try and do is take the positive out of this situation and it is clear that there are all sorts o fakes out there and not just these - MP posters we have seen and I have no doubt the next thing will be the GDP rats etc and as an auction house we clearly need to get an awful lot better about spotting this stuff or maybe just stop selling it ??
I have just been sent this thread as well as having received a PM and I am certainly not looking to avoid the situation / not respond.
Jamie was sold a fake - it was shocking and he was 100% correct - I refunded his money and postage straight away and also spoke to him - I felt that I demonstrated to him that I didn't realise it was a fake ( or of course I would never have sold it in the first place ) but Jamie clearly doesn't believe me and instead chooses to talk about a personal conversation we had - that's cool - Jamie is cleary aggrieved and nothing I say or do is going to change his mind. I do think talking about my personal art collection etc is a bit " strong " but I suppose it is what it is.
This thread has clearly developed into a lot of madness / insanity from me selling these on Instragram through to having an ebay account selling expensive oil paintings to I assume (??) having something to do with selling fake " Wrong War " posters !?!?!?!?!
Aside from the madness what is 100% correct that somebody posted ( possibly Jamie ) is that anyone to have bought one of these, framed it, and stuck it on their wall only to find out it is fake is more than " shitty " - its absolutely fucking vile and I every sympathy.
I, therefore, want to make a few points -
Firstly, after looking at Jamie's - his is VERY different from the others that have been sold by both me and Tate Ward and although his is clearly fake it certainly doesn't mean others are.
Secondly, I would NEVER sell anything that I believed was a fake - on each occasion, they were sold/consigned to / by me I believed they came from a genuine source, and on some occasions ( to be fair not all) they were taken in from people who had consigned other more valuable works.
Finally, if anyone has ANY doubts whatsoever about the authenticity of a Tesco Petrol ( or in fact anything I / Tate Ward have sold them ) or indeed simply the fact that I sold Jamie a fake ( all be it not knowingly ) is so unpalatable to them then I will give them a full/unequivocal refund.
The only caveat I would add is that I would like to get the work I sold them back - someone posted ( I assume sarcastically ' I wonder why ") and the answer is quite simply I, in turn, want to try and get my money back.
I will only be answering PMs or of course, anyone I sold one too should have my number etc so please feel free to contact me.
What I am going to try and do is take the positive out of this situation and it is clear that there are all sorts o fakes out there and not just these - MP posters we have seen and I have no doubt the next thing will be the GDP rats etc and as an auction house we clearly need to get an awful lot better about spotting this stuff or maybe just stop selling it ??
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Banksy Print, Canvas, WANTED, by lobster on Oct 23, 2020 13:52:09 GMT 1, Looking for a Signed " I Fought the Law " please PM with the price and rough idea where you are.
Many thanks indeed.
Looking for a Signed " I Fought the Law " please PM with the price and rough idea where you are.
Many thanks indeed.
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Banksy Print, Canvas, WANTED, by lobster on Sept 17, 2020 18:12:03 GMT 1, I am sure I am not the first and won't be the last but looking for ...
Signed Applause Grin Reaper
Choose Your Weapon - not either of the Grey's.
Please PM WITH a price.
Many thanks indeed.
I am sure I am not the first and won't be the last but looking for ...
Signed Applause Grin Reaper
Choose Your Weapon - not either of the Grey's.
Please PM WITH a price.
Many thanks indeed.
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Damien Hirst Print, Canvas, WANTED, by lobster on Aug 22, 2020 13:26:08 GMT 1, Looking for Hirst " Big Love " or " All You need is Love . Love Love ".
Many thanks indeed.
Looking for Hirst " Big Love " or " All You need is Love . Love Love ".
Many thanks indeed.
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Damien Hirst Print, Canvas, WANTED, by lobster on May 21, 2020 9:22:55 GMT 1, Looking for a LARGE Mickey with DD - pls PM with price.
Many thanks indeed.
Looking for a LARGE Mickey with DD - pls PM with price.
Many thanks indeed.
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Nick Walker Print, Canvas, WANTED, by lobster on Apr 19, 2020 15:31:13 GMT 1, Looking for a TMA London - Edition 100 for sale if anyone has one ??
Also a " procrastination " canvas ??
Many thanks indeed.
Looking for a TMA London - Edition 100 for sale if anyone has one ??
Also a " procrastination " canvas ??
Many thanks indeed.
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Invader Print, Original, WANTED, by lobster on Apr 16, 2020 16:51:51 GMT 1, Looking for an Invader RVE.
Please PM with price.
Many thanks indeed.
Looking for an Invader RVE.
Please PM with price.
Many thanks indeed.
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Banksy Print, Canvas, WANTED, by lobster on Mar 5, 2020 17:07:00 GMT 1, Looking for an US " I Fought The Law " must have PC.
Many thanks indeed.
Looking for an US " I Fought The Law " must have PC.
Many thanks indeed.
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Banksy Print, Canvas, WANTED, by lobster on Feb 20, 2020 14:46:33 GMT 1, Looking for the following -
Signed " I Fought the Law "
Signed " Happy Choppers "
Signed " Rats " - not = " Get out .. " or " Love "
US " Laugh Now "
Please pm with Price
Many thanks indeed.
Looking for the following -
Signed " I Fought the Law "
Signed " Happy Choppers "
Signed " Rats " - not = " Get out .. " or " Love "
US " Laugh Now "
Please pm with Price
Many thanks indeed.
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Banksy Print, Canvas, WANTED, by lobster on Dec 7, 2019 0:04:41 GMT 1, Still looking for Nola and a signed Laugh Now.
Many thanks indeed.
Still looking for Nola and a signed Laugh Now.
Many thanks indeed.
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Banksy Print, Canvas, WANTED, by lobster on Nov 29, 2019 21:49:12 GMT 1, Looking for a signed " Laugh Now "
Please PM me with a price.
Many thanks indeed.
Looking for a signed " Laugh Now "
Please PM me with a price.
Many thanks indeed.
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Banksy Print, Canvas, WANTED, by lobster on Nov 27, 2019 1:27:23 GMT 1, Stop and Search sorted - thanks to a great forum member for a very straightforward sale.
Want to buy the following.
Looking for an US GWIB
CYW various colours - not grey.
Please PM with price - happy to pay cash / transfer and collect.
Many thanks indeed.
Stop and Search sorted - thanks to a great forum member for a very straightforward sale.
Want to buy the following.
Looking for an US GWIB
CYW various colours - not grey.
Please PM with price - happy to pay cash / transfer and collect.
Many thanks indeed.
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Banksy Print, Canvas, WANTED, by lobster on Nov 23, 2019 17:03:17 GMT 1, Still looking for a Stop and Search
Cash Waiting
Many thanks indeed.
Still looking for a Stop and Search
Cash Waiting
Many thanks indeed.
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Banksy Print, Canvas, WANTED, by lobster on Nov 21, 2019 14:25:05 GMT 1, Looking for an Unsigned " Flower Thrower "
Please PM with price.
Many thanks indeed
Looking for an Unsigned " Flower Thrower "
Please PM with price.
Many thanks indeed
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Banksy Print, Canvas, WANTED, by lobster on Nov 18, 2019 21:02:23 GMT 1, Want to Buy" Stop and Search "
Pls PM with price.
Many thanks indeed.
Want to Buy" Stop and Search "
Pls PM with price.
Many thanks indeed.
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Banksy Print, Canvas, WANTED, by lobster on Nov 6, 2019 22:07:29 GMT 1, Looking for a signed " Flower Thrower " must be in very good condition.
Many thanks indeed.
Looking for a signed " Flower Thrower " must be in very good condition.
Many thanks indeed.
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Kaws Print, Figure, Canvas, WANTED, by lobster on Nov 3, 2019 17:30:46 GMT 1, Want to buy KAWS - " Presenting the Past " " Piranha's " " Isolation Tower " or the Snoopy Set.
Please message me with PRICE.
Happy to pay cash / collect.
Many thanks indeed
Want to buy KAWS - " Presenting the Past " " Piranha's " " Isolation Tower " or the Snoopy Set.
Please message me with PRICE.
Happy to pay cash / collect.
Many thanks indeed
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Banksy Print, Canvas, WANTED, by lobster on Nov 1, 2019 12:19:38 GMT 1, Looking for a Silver Flag.
Happy to pay cash / collect.
Many thanks indeed.
Looking for a Silver Flag.
Happy to pay cash / collect.
Many thanks indeed.
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Banksy Print, Canvas, WANTED, by lobster on Oct 28, 2019 17:50:04 GMT 1, Also looking for an U/S applause -
Many thanks indeed.
Also looking for an U/S applause -
Many thanks indeed.
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Banksy Print, Canvas, WANTED, by lobster on Oct 26, 2019 14:30:31 GMT 1, Looking for an US Napalm or US Toxic Mary - don't have to be " minty fresh " (!!!) just good condition.
Please PM with Price and roughly where you are.
Many thanks indeed.
Looking for an US Napalm or US Toxic Mary - don't have to be " minty fresh " (!!!) just good condition.
Please PM with Price and roughly where you are.
Many thanks indeed.
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Harland Miller Print, Canvas, WANTED, by lobster on Oct 12, 2019 12:02:12 GMT 1, Looking for " I am the one I've been waiting for " in Yellow.
Many thanks indeed.
Looking for " I am the one I've been waiting for " in Yellow.
Many thanks indeed.
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Banksy Print, Canvas, WANTED, by lobster on Oct 4, 2019 17:42:49 GMT 1, Looking for
US L/N Signed โ Love Rat โ White Rain Nola Signed Toxic Mary
Happy to pay cash / transfer
Many thanks indeed
Looking for
US L/N Signed โ Love Rat โ White Rain Nola Signed Toxic Mary
Happy to pay cash / transfer
Many thanks indeed
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Banksy Print, Canvas, WANTED, by lobster on Jun 26, 2019 19:13:48 GMT 1, Looking for a signed Toxic Mary.
Please PM price and roughly where you are.
Many thanks indeed.
Looking for a signed Toxic Mary.
Please PM price and roughly where you are.
Many thanks indeed.
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Harland Miller Print, Canvas, WANTED, by lobster on May 8, 2019 16:16:50 GMT 1, Looking for " Hates Outta Date ".
Many thanks indeed.
Looking for " Hates Outta Date ".
Many thanks indeed.
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Harland Miller Print, Canvas, WANTED, by lobster on Apr 16, 2019 12:37:43 GMT 1, No luck on the " Who Cares Wins " still looking if anyone has one ??
Would also consider " High On Hope " . " Love A Decisive Blow ... " Or " The Me I Never "
Many thanks indeed.
No luck on the " Who Cares Wins " still looking if anyone has one ??
Would also consider " High On Hope " . " Love A Decisive Blow ... " Or " The Me I Never "
Many thanks indeed.
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Harland Miller Print, Canvas, WANTED, by lobster on Apr 11, 2019 23:02:00 GMT 1, Looking for " Who Cares Wins " ideally the pink one but would consider the smaller one from Reflex.
Many thanks indeed.
Looking for " Who Cares Wins " ideally the pink one but would consider the smaller one from Reflex.
Many thanks indeed.
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DAMIEN HIRST 'ANDROMEDA' (H4-2) FOR SALE, by lobster on Apr 3, 2019 7:42:47 GMT 1, Absolute gentleman to deal with - buy with confidence !!!
Absolute gentleman to deal with - buy with confidence !!!
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