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Black Rat Press • Black Rat Projects, by Deleted on Nov 15, 2012 20:42:05 GMT 1, Still stands that Black Rat Press have rented the space from James Golding, someone who ripped off artists and collectors left right and center for £10k here and £20k there. I won't be going to any BRP shows or buying anything from them if they continue to put 1 penny Goldings way, and will probably mention this on every BRP thred posted in the future, anything that supports that crook is wrong. Sad as I liked them, they knew how to put on a good show. OK, I don’t often come on here and make comments, I’m happy to sit back and see what’s new and all that stuff as I’m a genuine street/urban art fan. Anyway….. this JAMES GOLDING/ LEONARD STREET GALLERY thing has been going on for too long - Life’s too short for long term grudges, GET OVER IT, I have and I was one of the artists who got stung (7K - LizLam prints). For sure, he completely screwed up but he’s not a monster and 5 years on, que sera, sera.... it happened. Back in the day I obviously had a lot of face to face with James and I’m convinced he didn’t deliberately go out of his way to rip people, things just got way out of hand. If there’s anyone out there owed some dosh, contact him, you never know he may now be in a situation to somehow recompense you. Don’t sit back and moan, do something positive. Yeah, I felt cheated, trust gone and all that stuff but do I hate his guts? No. As I said earlier, he’s not monster just a bit of a t**t and although I haven’t spoken to either for a while, I’m pretty sure Chris (SOS) & Matty Small (two of the artists owed the biggest amounts) have also got over it, they’re just not the kind of blokes to hold onto this s**t. My advice….. forget it and move on up.
Thats very good of you KG, however i think the thing that is rubbing people is now he is making money / has means to make money, he is still not settling any debts he incurred LSG days as far as i know, unless of course he has taken the "Forget it and move on up" approach.
Still stands that Black Rat Press have rented the space from James Golding, someone who ripped off artists and collectors left right and center for £10k here and £20k there. I won't be going to any BRP shows or buying anything from them if they continue to put 1 penny Goldings way, and will probably mention this on every BRP thred posted in the future, anything that supports that crook is wrong. Sad as I liked them, they knew how to put on a good show. OK, I don’t often come on here and make comments, I’m happy to sit back and see what’s new and all that stuff as I’m a genuine street/urban art fan. Anyway….. this JAMES GOLDING/ LEONARD STREET GALLERY thing has been going on for too long - Life’s too short for long term grudges, GET OVER IT, I have and I was one of the artists who got stung (7K - LizLam prints). For sure, he completely screwed up but he’s not a monster and 5 years on, que sera, sera.... it happened. Back in the day I obviously had a lot of face to face with James and I’m convinced he didn’t deliberately go out of his way to rip people, things just got way out of hand. If there’s anyone out there owed some dosh, contact him, you never know he may now be in a situation to somehow recompense you. Don’t sit back and moan, do something positive. Yeah, I felt cheated, trust gone and all that stuff but do I hate his guts? No. As I said earlier, he’s not monster just a bit of a t**t and although I haven’t spoken to either for a while, I’m pretty sure Chris (SOS) & Matty Small (two of the artists owed the biggest amounts) have also got over it, they’re just not the kind of blokes to hold onto this s**t. My advice….. forget it and move on up. Thats very good of you KG, however i think the thing that is rubbing people is now he is making money / has means to make money, he is still not settling any debts he incurred LSG days as far as i know, unless of course he has taken the "Forget it and move on up" approach. |
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Black Rat Press • Black Rat Projects, by curiousgeorge on Nov 15, 2012 22:06:59 GMT 1, Still stands that Black Rat Press have rented the space from James Golding, someone who ripped off artists and collectors left right and center for £10k here and £20k there. I won't be going to any BRP shows or buying anything from them if they continue to put 1 penny Goldings way, and will probably mention this on every BRP thred posted in the future, anything that supports that crook is wrong. Sad as I liked them, they knew how to put on a good show. OK, I don’t often come on here and make comments, I’m happy to sit back and see what’s new and all that stuff as I’m a genuine street/urban art fan. Anyway….. this JAMES GOLDING/ LEONARD STREET GALLERY thing has been going on for too long - Life’s too short for long term grudges, GET OVER IT, I have and I was one of the artists who got stung (7K - LizLam prints). For sure, he completely screwed up but he’s not a monster and 5 years on, que sera, sera.... it happened. Back in the day I obviously had a lot of face to face with James and I’m convinced he didn’t deliberately go out of his way to rip people, things just got way out of hand. If there’s anyone out there owed some dosh, contact him, you never know he may now be in a situation to somehow recompense you. Don’t sit back and moan, do something positive. Yeah, I felt cheated, trust gone and all that stuff but do I hate his guts? No. As I said earlier, he’s not monster just a bit of a t**t and although I haven’t spoken to either for a while, I’m pretty sure Chris (SOS) & Matty Small (two of the artists owed the biggest amounts) have also got over it, they’re just not the kind of blokes to hold onto this s**t. My advice….. forget it and move on up.
And this is exactly why people like that get away with sh!t like this
Still stands that Black Rat Press have rented the space from James Golding, someone who ripped off artists and collectors left right and center for £10k here and £20k there. I won't be going to any BRP shows or buying anything from them if they continue to put 1 penny Goldings way, and will probably mention this on every BRP thred posted in the future, anything that supports that crook is wrong. Sad as I liked them, they knew how to put on a good show. OK, I don’t often come on here and make comments, I’m happy to sit back and see what’s new and all that stuff as I’m a genuine street/urban art fan. Anyway….. this JAMES GOLDING/ LEONARD STREET GALLERY thing has been going on for too long - Life’s too short for long term grudges, GET OVER IT, I have and I was one of the artists who got stung (7K - LizLam prints). For sure, he completely screwed up but he’s not a monster and 5 years on, que sera, sera.... it happened. Back in the day I obviously had a lot of face to face with James and I’m convinced he didn’t deliberately go out of his way to rip people, things just got way out of hand. If there’s anyone out there owed some dosh, contact him, you never know he may now be in a situation to somehow recompense you. Don’t sit back and moan, do something positive. Yeah, I felt cheated, trust gone and all that stuff but do I hate his guts? No. As I said earlier, he’s not monster just a bit of a t**t and although I haven’t spoken to either for a while, I’m pretty sure Chris (SOS) & Matty Small (two of the artists owed the biggest amounts) have also got over it, they’re just not the kind of blokes to hold onto this s**t. My advice….. forget it and move on up. And this is exactly why people like that get away with sh!t like this |
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Black Rat Press • Black Rat Projects, by manty on Nov 15, 2012 22:19:44 GMT 1, As an aside.
I know a guy, real nice friendly chap, comes across and a very helpful happy chap
he has to date folded 3 businesses taking other people and businesses for a couple of million.
Does it every 5 years
Lives in a lovely house, villa abroad. cash in the bank
Dont know how many lives he has ruined and people made unemployed, but hey, he is a nice guy
As an aside.
I know a guy, real nice friendly chap, comes across and a very helpful happy chap
he has to date folded 3 businesses taking other people and businesses for a couple of million.
Does it every 5 years
Lives in a lovely house, villa abroad. cash in the bank
Dont know how many lives he has ruined and people made unemployed, but hey, he is a nice guy
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Black Rat Press • Black Rat Projects, by danmuppet on Nov 15, 2012 22:20:38 GMT 1, 100% agree CG . People that lost that much money will find it super hard to forgive and forget. If I lost 7k I would be doing whatever I could to get my dough back- even 5 years later.
100% agree CG . People that lost that much money will find it super hard to forgive and forget. If I lost 7k I would be doing whatever I could to get my dough back- even 5 years later.
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Black Rat Press • Black Rat Projects, by manty on Nov 15, 2012 22:28:11 GMT 1, Just to balance my last post
I know another chap that has just has to go into administration (bust)
Tried his hardest to keep it going over the last 10 months, made a few mistakes like not reducing overheads fast enough and making half of the 26 odd staff that had been with him for over 10 years redundant
had the business for 30 years
sales dropped off, couldn't recover the decline
had personally refinanced the business (second mortgage on his house) to inject some much needed cash hoping for sales to recover
looks like he could lose his house
Also owes suppliers to the tune of £150k, plus the vat man and HMRC
Just to balance my last post
I know another chap that has just has to go into administration (bust)
Tried his hardest to keep it going over the last 10 months, made a few mistakes like not reducing overheads fast enough and making half of the 26 odd staff that had been with him for over 10 years redundant
had the business for 30 years
sales dropped off, couldn't recover the decline
had personally refinanced the business (second mortgage on his house) to inject some much needed cash hoping for sales to recover
looks like he could lose his house
Also owes suppliers to the tune of £150k, plus the vat man and HMRC
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Black Rat Press • Black Rat Projects, by curiousgeorge on Nov 15, 2012 22:43:09 GMT 1, Is Manty an Accountant? 
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Black Rat Press • Black Rat Projects, by blitsu on Nov 15, 2012 22:45:26 GMT 1, As I understand it only the mods can do that. Harveyn say it wasn't him, one is in Thailand so that leaves, who, Wearology? Well, seems simple. Wearology, did you delete posts from this thread?
Or photxtc? Someone deleted posts.
WHO WAS IT???
As I understand it only the mods can do that. Harveyn say it wasn't him, one is in Thailand so that leaves, who, Wearology? Well, seems simple. Wearology, did you delete posts from this thread? Or photxtc? Someone deleted posts. WHO WAS IT??? |
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Black Rat Press • Black Rat Projects, by manty on Nov 15, 2012 22:51:04 GMT 1, Is Manty an Accountant?
LOL
far from it
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Black Rat Press • Black Rat Projects, by craigf on Nov 15, 2012 23:27:34 GMT 1, Is Manty an Accountant? LOL far from it
He's not that exciting......
Is Manty an Accountant? LOL far from it He's not that exciting...... |
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Black Rat Press • Black Rat Projects, by nex on Nov 15, 2012 23:32:41 GMT 1, 1. The heavy handed censorship was because of one post - Brooksie spouting lies
2. If it was Silky he'd have locked the thread and moved it
3. Censorship without explanation leads to this mess of a thread
4. Brp's edited posts were angry at Brooksie's post, but understood others ire at their association
1. The heavy handed censorship was because of one post - Brooksie spouting lies
2. If it was Silky he'd have locked the thread and moved it
3. Censorship without explanation leads to this mess of a thread
4. Brp's edited posts were angry at Brooksie's post, but understood others ire at their association
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Black Rat Press • Black Rat Projects, by love on Nov 16, 2012 2:10:58 GMT 1, Really sad about censorship on this forum. Especially when it helps new members to know, who are the bad boys in buisness.
Really sad about censorship on this forum. Especially when it helps new members to know, who are the bad boys in buisness. |
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Black Rat Press • Black Rat Projects, by brooksie82 on Nov 16, 2012 3:39:56 GMT 1, My one post shouldn't have led to every post on the subject to be deleted.
I'm not one to forgive and forget, he told me I'd be paid back, he has my detail, and hasn't called me or emailed me in 5 years, total lying scum.
My one post shouldn't have led to every post on the subject to be deleted.
I'm not one to forgive and forget, he told me I'd be paid back, he has my detail, and hasn't called me or emailed me in 5 years, total lying scum.
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Black Rat Press • Black Rat Projects, by Deleted on Nov 16, 2012 12:16:32 GMT 1, None of my now deleted posts were slanderous towards BRP, why were they deleted?, come on Deletemod give an explanation please.
None of my now deleted posts were slanderous towards BRP, why were they deleted?, come on Deletemod give an explanation please.
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Black Rat Press • Black Rat Projects, by Mister Frame Man on Nov 16, 2012 12:54:00 GMT 1, Still stands that Black Rat Press have rented the space from James Golding, someone who ripped off artists and collectors left right and center for £10k here and £20k there. I won't be going to any BRP shows or buying anything from them if they continue to put 1 penny Goldings way, and will probably mention this on every BRP thred posted in the future, anything that supports that crook is wrong. Sad as I liked them, they knew how to put on a good show. OK, I don’t often come on here and make comments, I’m happy to sit back and see what’s new and all that stuff as I’m a genuine street/urban art fan. Anyway….. this JAMES GOLDING/ LEONARD STREET GALLERY thing has been going on for too long - Life’s too short for long term grudges, GET OVER IT, I have and I was one of the artists who got stung (7K - LizLam prints). For sure, he completely screwed up but he’s not a monster and 5 years on, que sera, sera.... it happened. Back in the day I obviously had a lot of face to face with James and I’m convinced he didn’t deliberately go out of his way to rip people, things just got way out of hand. If there’s anyone out there owed some dosh, contact him, you never know he may now be in a situation to somehow recompense you. Don’t sit back and moan, do something positive. Yeah, I felt cheated, trust gone and all that stuff but do I hate his guts? No. As I said earlier, he’s not monster just a bit of a t**t and although I haven’t spoken to either for a while, I’m pretty sure Chris (SOS) & Matty Small (two of the artists owed the biggest amounts) have also got over it, they’re just not the kind of blokes to hold onto this s**t. My advice….. forget it and move on up.
Appreciate what you are saying but.......
"move on", I have
"forget", highly unlikely
Still stands that Black Rat Press have rented the space from James Golding, someone who ripped off artists and collectors left right and center for £10k here and £20k there. I won't be going to any BRP shows or buying anything from them if they continue to put 1 penny Goldings way, and will probably mention this on every BRP thred posted in the future, anything that supports that crook is wrong. Sad as I liked them, they knew how to put on a good show. OK, I don’t often come on here and make comments, I’m happy to sit back and see what’s new and all that stuff as I’m a genuine street/urban art fan. Anyway….. this JAMES GOLDING/ LEONARD STREET GALLERY thing has been going on for too long - Life’s too short for long term grudges, GET OVER IT, I have and I was one of the artists who got stung (7K - LizLam prints). For sure, he completely screwed up but he’s not a monster and 5 years on, que sera, sera.... it happened. Back in the day I obviously had a lot of face to face with James and I’m convinced he didn’t deliberately go out of his way to rip people, things just got way out of hand. If there’s anyone out there owed some dosh, contact him, you never know he may now be in a situation to somehow recompense you. Don’t sit back and moan, do something positive. Yeah, I felt cheated, trust gone and all that stuff but do I hate his guts? No. As I said earlier, he’s not monster just a bit of a t**t and although I haven’t spoken to either for a while, I’m pretty sure Chris (SOS) & Matty Small (two of the artists owed the biggest amounts) have also got over it, they’re just not the kind of blokes to hold onto this s**t. My advice….. forget it and move on up. Appreciate what you are saying but....... "move on", I have "forget", highly unlikely |
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Black Rat Press • Black Rat Projects, by balibob on Nov 16, 2012 14:12:49 GMT 1, Seems a bit of a shame that BRP are now being tarred with the Golding brush.
On a separate note, K-Guy if you have moved on after getting ripped for £7k, you are a better man than me.
Seems a bit of a shame that BRP are now being tarred with the Golding brush.
On a separate note, K-Guy if you have moved on after getting ripped for £7k, you are a better man than me.
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Black Rat Press • Black Rat Projects, by love on Nov 16, 2012 15:00:55 GMT 1, I won't be going to any BRP shows or buying anything from them if they continue to put 1 penny Goldings way, and will probably mention this on every BRP thred posted in the future, anything that supports that crook is wrong.
/signed
I won't be going to any BRP shows or buying anything from them if they continue to put 1 penny Goldings way, and will probably mention this on every BRP thred posted in the future, anything that supports that crook is wrong. /signed |
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Black Rat Press • Black Rat Projects, by K-Guy on Nov 16, 2012 18:30:55 GMT 1, OK, I don’t often come on here and make comments, I’m happy to sit back and see what’s new and all that stuff as I’m a genuine street/urban art fan. Anyway….. this JAMES GOLDING/ LEONARD STREET GALLERY thing has been going on for too long - Life’s too short for long term grudges, GET OVER IT, I have and I was one of the artists who got stung (7K - LizLam prints). For sure, he completely screwed up but he’s not a monster and 5 years on, que sera, sera.... it happened. Back in the day I obviously had a lot of face to face with James and I’m convinced he didn’t deliberately go out of his way to rip people, things just got way out of hand. If there’s anyone out there owed some dosh, contact him, you never know he may now be in a situation to somehow recompense you. Don’t sit back and moan, do something positive. Yeah, I felt cheated, trust gone and all that stuff but do I hate his guts? No. As I said earlier, he’s not monster just a bit of a t**t and although I haven’t spoken to either for a while, I’m pretty sure Chris (SOS) & Matty Small (two of the artists owed the biggest amounts) have also got over it, they’re just not the kind of blokes to hold onto this s**t. My advice….. forget it and move on up. Appreciate what you are saying but....... "move on", I have "forget", highly unlikely
Fair enough, everyone to their own I guess. Have a good weekend all.
OK, I don’t often come on here and make comments, I’m happy to sit back and see what’s new and all that stuff as I’m a genuine street/urban art fan. Anyway….. this JAMES GOLDING/ LEONARD STREET GALLERY thing has been going on for too long - Life’s too short for long term grudges, GET OVER IT, I have and I was one of the artists who got stung (7K - LizLam prints). For sure, he completely screwed up but he’s not a monster and 5 years on, que sera, sera.... it happened. Back in the day I obviously had a lot of face to face with James and I’m convinced he didn’t deliberately go out of his way to rip people, things just got way out of hand. If there’s anyone out there owed some dosh, contact him, you never know he may now be in a situation to somehow recompense you. Don’t sit back and moan, do something positive. Yeah, I felt cheated, trust gone and all that stuff but do I hate his guts? No. As I said earlier, he’s not monster just a bit of a t**t and although I haven’t spoken to either for a while, I’m pretty sure Chris (SOS) & Matty Small (two of the artists owed the biggest amounts) have also got over it, they’re just not the kind of blokes to hold onto this s**t. My advice….. forget it and move on up. Appreciate what you are saying but....... "move on", I have "forget", highly unlikely Fair enough, everyone to their own I guess. Have a good weekend all. |
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Black Rat Press • Black Rat Projects, by Sacked... on Nov 16, 2012 18:44:53 GMT 1, I dont know why Silky has'nt commented ,as he has logged in since this thread started.
I dont know why Silky has'nt commented ,as he has logged in since this thread started.
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Black Rat Press • Black Rat Projects, by danmuppet on Nov 16, 2012 19:03:26 GMT 1, Come on silky- talk to your people- what's the score boss?
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Black Rat Press • Black Rat Projects, by curiousgeorge on Nov 16, 2012 19:30:09 GMT 1, K-Guy xmas is coming and my goose ain't getting fat, can you lend me a couple of grand.....
K-Guy xmas is coming and my goose ain't getting fat, can you lend me a couple of grand.....
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Black Rat Press • Black Rat Projects, by Deleted on Nov 18, 2012 9:44:10 GMT 1, ...............on a long term no payments policy pref. 
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Black Rat Press • Black Rat Projects, by .dappy on Nov 18, 2012 20:23:18 GMT 1,
So which 'Asst' Moderator was it then??? 
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Black Rat Press • Black Rat Projects, by timba82 on Nov 18, 2012 23:15:14 GMT 1, staggering! my comment also deleted.
Who was it Silky and why?
staggering! my comment also deleted.
Who was it Silky and why?
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Black Rat Press • Black Rat Projects, by Mister Frame Man on Nov 19, 2012 9:53:08 GMT 1, Perhaps JG is a secret Mod?
Cannot believe that no one has had the courtesy to respond, thought this place was a "community" where we were all encouraged to respect one another?
If not to make public even a pm to those that had posts deleted might be polite!
Perhaps JG is a secret Mod?
Cannot believe that no one has had the courtesy to respond, thought this place was a "community" where we were all encouraged to respect one another?
If not to make public even a pm to those that had posts deleted might be polite!
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Black Rat Press • Black Rat Projects, by danmuppet on Nov 19, 2012 9:57:13 GMT 1, Come on silky say your piece already and then we can put this to bed!
Come on silky say your piece already and then we can put this to bed!
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Black Rat Press • Black Rat Projects, by timba82 on Nov 19, 2012 13:05:34 GMT 1, as Gary says even a pm from him explaining would have been the polite and correct thing to do
its all very underhand and fishy..
as Gary says even a pm from him explaining would have been the polite and correct thing to do
its all very underhand and fishy..
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Black Rat Press • Black Rat Projects, by Deleted on Nov 19, 2012 16:24:11 GMT 1, .....what, like fishy hands or possibly fish fingers?
.....what, like fishy hands or possibly fish fingers?
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Black Rat Press • Black Rat Projects, by timba82 on Nov 19, 2012 17:01:40 GMT 1, You got it wiz...it's all a bit finders to me
You got it wiz...it's all a bit finders to me
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Black Rat Press • Black Rat Projects, by Mister Frame Man on Nov 20, 2012 9:21:04 GMT 1, I guess if we all go quiet nobody will have the need to explain their actions!
I guess if we all go quiet nobody will have the need to explain their actions!
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Black Rat Press • Black Rat Projects, by Deleted on Nov 20, 2012 9:29:40 GMT 1, Who is going quiet fella?. Im sure someone will have the courtesy to explain why all those deletions were made.
Who is going quiet fella?. Im sure someone will have the courtesy to explain why all those deletions were made.
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