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Black Rat Press • Black Rat Projects, by timba82 on Nov 20, 2012 14:44:49 GMT 1, if we keep taking it to the top I'm hoping someone will have the courtesy of explaining. If they dont however it's low. Very low. And actually worrying for the forum
if we keep taking it to the top I'm hoping someone will have the courtesy of explaining. If they dont however it's low. Very low. And actually worrying for the forum
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Black Rat Press • Black Rat Projects, by Deleted on Nov 20, 2012 16:53:48 GMT 1, For anyone who's been around here for long enough this will not be a surprise.
It's happened before... and it will happen again.
Unilateral, unaccountable decisions are the order of the day.
For anyone who's been around here for long enough this will not be a surprise.
It's happened before... and it will happen again.
Unilateral, unaccountable decisions are the order of the day.
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Black Rat Press • Black Rat Projects, by saint on Nov 20, 2012 16:58:32 GMT 1, Indeed! No point constantly asking him to explain, if he was going to, he would have by now believe me.
Indeed! No point constantly asking him to explain, if he was going to, he would have by now believe me.
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Black Rat Press • Black Rat Projects, by blitsu on Nov 20, 2012 17:55:32 GMT 1, So, who deleted all of these posts and why? Did anyone have the good manners to say?
So, who deleted all of these posts and why? Did anyone have the good manners to say?
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Black Rat Press • Black Rat Projects, by Agent Provocateur on Nov 20, 2012 17:57:00 GMT 1, I don't know what I find sadder, the deletion/censhorship of posts or the lack of integrity/b*lls in not letting the community know why!?
Yeah, it has happended before vivalarepublique, but that's (definitely) no reason for us to like or put up with it.
Has anyone PM'd the Chairman and politely asked him for an explanation? I think I will anyway...
I don't know what I find sadder, the deletion/censhorship of posts or the lack of integrity/b*lls in not letting the community know why!?
Yeah, it has happended before vivalarepublique, but that's (definitely) no reason for us to like or put up with it.
Has anyone PM'd the Chairman and politely asked him for an explanation? I think I will anyway...
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Black Rat Press • Black Rat Projects, by Agent Provocateur on Nov 20, 2012 18:12:57 GMT 1, Just wizzed Silky a polite pm asking if he can explain, I said I'd post it on here so we all know he's been asked...
Sent 17:08 Tue 20 Nov 2012
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Hi Dan
Hope you're well.
Apologies for the PM but some forum members are quite annoyed at several posts being deleted from this thread (Black Rat - Museum of Curiosity):
urbanartassociation.com/index.cgi?board=urbanart&action=display&thread=100932&page=1
I for one am perturbed at individuals posts disappearing without an explanation, you may call it moderating but personally I call it censorship.
Probably the more worrying thing is no one has been polite enough to let anyone know why these specific posts were deleted.
The question is, if the forum doesn't now why the posts were deleted how will we know not to post similar comments in the future?
I am going to post what I've said in this PM on the thread so people know you've been politely asked for an explaination.
Thanks for taking the time to read this, I look forward to a response.
AP
Just wizzed Silky a polite pm asking if he can explain, I said I'd post it on here so we all know he's been asked... Sent 17:08 Tue 20 Nov 2012 - Hi Dan
Hope you're well.
Apologies for the PM but some forum members are quite annoyed at several posts being deleted from this thread (Black Rat - Museum of Curiosity):
urbanartassociation.com/index.cgi?board=urbanart&action=display&thread=100932&page=1
I for one am perturbed at individuals posts disappearing without an explanation, you may call it moderating but personally I call it censorship.
Probably the more worrying thing is no one has been polite enough to let anyone know why these specific posts were deleted.
The question is, if the forum doesn't now why the posts were deleted how will we know not to post similar comments in the future?
I am going to post what I've said in this PM on the thread so people know you've been politely asked for an explaination.
Thanks for taking the time to read this, I look forward to a response.
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Black Rat Press • Black Rat Projects, by Deleted on Nov 20, 2012 18:17:45 GMT 1, You guys are going to have to accept that someone has been nobbled hence the deletions and they will wait it out till it blows over.
You guys are going to have to accept that someone has been nobbled hence the deletions and they will wait it out till it blows over.
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Black Rat Press • Black Rat Projects, by Deleted on Nov 20, 2012 18:53:01 GMT 1, It wont blow over i reckon JV, even if its just for the James Golding connection that BRP now have..
It wont blow over i reckon JV, even if its just for the James Golding connection that BRP now have..
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Black Rat Press • Black Rat Projects, by anbesivam1 on Nov 20, 2012 19:39:44 GMT 1, You guys are going to have to accept that someone has been nobbled hence the deletions and they will wait it out till it blows over.
Can we start the revolution now? JV? Wizzy? Mr FM? you guys in?
You guys are going to have to accept that someone has been nobbled hence the deletions and they will wait it out till it blows over. Can we start the revolution now? JV? Wizzy? Mr FM? you guys in? |
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Black Rat Press • Black Rat Projects, by Deleted on Nov 20, 2012 19:44:32 GMT 1, You guys are going to have to accept that someone has been nobbled hence the deletions and they will wait it out till it blows over. Can we start the revolution now? JV? Wizzy? Mr FM? you guys in?
You guys are going to have to accept that someone has been nobbled hence the deletions and they will wait it out till it blows over. Can we start the revolution now? JV? Wizzy? Mr FM? you guys in? |
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Black Rat Press • Black Rat Projects, by manty on Nov 20, 2012 20:59:19 GMT 1, You guys are going to have to accept that someone has been nobbled hence the deletions and they will wait it out till it blows over. Can we start the revolution now? JV? Wizzy? Mr FM? you guys in?
Does it mean moving from my chair?
You guys are going to have to accept that someone has been nobbled hence the deletions and they will wait it out till it blows over. Can we start the revolution now? JV? Wizzy? Mr FM? you guys in? Does it mean moving from my chair? |
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Black Rat Press • Black Rat Projects, by Deleted on Nov 20, 2012 22:15:40 GMT 1, You guys are going to have to accept that someone has been nobbled hence the deletions and they will wait it out till it blows over. Can we start the revolution now? JV? Wizzy? Mr FM? you guys in?
OK, lets do it, what we do though? im not throw a molotov at me screen or anything, we could all have a sympathetic to the cause avatar maybe? like Black Power or something?, or a Rat?.
You guys are going to have to accept that someone has been nobbled hence the deletions and they will wait it out till it blows over. Can we start the revolution now? JV? Wizzy? Mr FM? you guys in? OK, lets do it, what we do though? im not throw a molotov at me screen or anything, we could all have a sympathetic to the cause avatar maybe? like Black Power or something?, or a Rat?. |
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Black Rat Press • Black Rat Projects, by Mister Frame Man on Nov 20, 2012 22:51:33 GMT 1, Almost posted what I thought then, stopped myself as I am on my second bottle of wine and thought better!
Come on silky, treat yourself to a bottle of thunderbird and put an end to this!
Almost posted what I thought then, stopped myself as I am on my second bottle of wine and thought better!
Come on silky, treat yourself to a bottle of thunderbird and put an end to this!
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Black Rat Press • Black Rat Projects, by Deleted on Nov 20, 2012 22:51:34 GMT 1, Not going to follow an old guff in to any revolution, when he can't spell 'warned'
Not going to follow an old guff in to any revolution, when he can't spell 'warned'
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anbesivam1
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Black Rat Press • Black Rat Projects, by anbesivam1 on Nov 20, 2012 22:55:52 GMT 1, Can we start the revolution now? JV? Wizzy? Mr FM? you guys in?
If the freedom of speech is taken away, then dumb and silent may WE all be led, like sheep to the slaughter.
George Washington
Censorship is never over for those who have experienced it. It is a brand on the imagination that affects the individual who has suffered it, forever.
Noam Chomsky
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ALL MEMBERS WHO VALUE THEIR RIGHT OF FREE SPEECH AND FIND THE IRONY OF CENSORSHIP ON THIS FORUM TOO MUCH TO STOMACH PLEASE SIGN THE PETITION BELOW:
anbesivam1
Can we start the revolution now? JV? Wizzy? Mr FM? you guys in?
George Washington Censorship is never over for those who have experienced it. It is a brand on the imagination that affects the individual who has suffered it, forever.
Noam Chomsky
LETT
HEREVOL
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EGINALL MEMBERS WHO VALUE THEIR RIGHT OF FREE SPEECH AND FIND THE IRONY OF CENSORSHIP ON THIS FORUM TOO MUCH TO STOMACH PLEASE SIGN THE PETITION BELOW: anbesivam1 |
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Black Rat Press • Black Rat Projects, by blitsu on Nov 20, 2012 22:59:24 GMT 1, All members who have seen this happen many times before and are onto their seventeenth identity say 'Meh'...
All members who have seen this happen many times before and are onto their seventeenth identity say 'Meh'...
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Black Rat Press • Black Rat Projects, by manty on Nov 20, 2012 23:02:40 GMT 1, All members who haven't seen this happen many times before and are onto their seventeenth identity say 'Meh'...
Its a bit early though, its usually christmas time
All members who haven't seen this happen many times before and are onto their seventeenth identity say 'Meh'... Its a bit early though, its usually christmas time |
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Black Rat Press • Black Rat Projects, by Deleted on Nov 20, 2012 23:56:28 GMT 1,
If the freedom of speech is taken away, then dumb and silent may WE all be led, like sheep to the slaughter.
George Washington
Censorship is never over for those who have experienced it. It is a brand on the imagination that affects the individual who has suffered it, forever.
Noam Chomsky
LETT
HEREVOL
UTIONB
EGIN
ALL MEMBERS WHO VALUE THEIR RIGHT OF FREE SPEECH AND FIND THE IRONY OF CENSORSHIP ON THIS FORUM TOO MUCH TO STOMACH PLEASE SIGN THE PETITION BELOW:
anbesivam1
speebe1
If the freedom of speech is taken away, then dumb and silent may WE all be led, like sheep to the slaughter.
George Washington Censorship is never over for those who have experienced it. It is a brand on the imagination that affects the individual who has suffered it, forever.
Noam Chomsky
LETT
HEREVOL
UTIONB
EGINALL MEMBERS WHO VALUE THEIR RIGHT OF FREE SPEECH AND FIND THE IRONY OF CENSORSHIP ON THIS FORUM TOO MUCH TO STOMACH PLEASE SIGN THE PETITION BELOW: anbesivam1 speebe1
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Black Rat Press • Black Rat Projects, by Deleted on Nov 21, 2012 0:07:19 GMT 1, Utterly pointless, it's another post, another hit, even a protest becomes the lifeblood of this forum... This place has never been about freedom of speech, the karma system proves it.
Utterly pointless, it's another post, another hit, even a protest becomes the lifeblood of this forum... This place has never been about freedom of speech, the karma system proves it.
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Black Rat Press • Black Rat Projects, by baznyc on Nov 21, 2012 0:29:01 GMT 1, Interesting to dip my toes back in here every now and then. Sad to see very little changes though.
Interesting to dip my toes back in here every now and then. Sad to see very little changes though.
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Black Rat Press • Black Rat Projects, by Deleted on Nov 21, 2012 2:04:37 GMT 1, RIP Wallkandy
RIP Banksy's Forum
RIP Wallkandy
RIP Banksy's Forum
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Black Rat Press • Black Rat Projects, by Deleted on Nov 21, 2012 9:42:03 GMT 1, If the freedom of speech is taken away, then dumb and silent may WE all be led, like sheep to the slaughter.
George Washington Censorship is never over for those who have experienced it. It is a brand on the imagination that affects the individual who has suffered it, forever.
Noam Chomsky
LETT
HEREVOL
UTIONB
EGINALL MEMBERS WHO VALUE THEIR RIGHT OF FREE SPEECH AND FIND THE IRONY OF CENSORSHIP ON THIS FORUM TOO MUCH TO STOMACH PLEASE SIGN THE PETITION BELOW: anbesivam1 speebe1 wizzy
If the freedom of speech is taken away, then dumb and silent may WE all be led, like sheep to the slaughter.
George Washington Censorship is never over for those who have experienced it. It is a brand on the imagination that affects the individual who has suffered it, forever.
Noam Chomsky
LETT
HEREVOL
UTIONB
EGINALL MEMBERS WHO VALUE THEIR RIGHT OF FREE SPEECH AND FIND THE IRONY OF CENSORSHIP ON THIS FORUM TOO MUCH TO STOMACH PLEASE SIGN THE PETITION BELOW: anbesivam1 speebe1 wizzy |
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timba82
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Black Rat Press • Black Rat Projects, by timba82 on Nov 21, 2012 11:42:14 GMT 1, If the freedom of speech is taken away, then dumb and silent may WE all be led, like sheep to the slaughter.
George Washington Censorship is never over for those who have experienced it. It is a brand on the imagination that affects the individual who has suffered it, forever.
Noam Chomsky
LETT
HEREVOL
UTIONB
EGINALL MEMBERS WHO VALUE THEIR RIGHT OF FREE SPEECH AND FIND THE IRONY OF CENSORSHIP ON THIS FORUM TOO MUCH TO STOMACH PLEASE SIGN THE PETITION BELOW: anbesivam1 speebe1 wizzy timba82
If the freedom of speech is taken away, then dumb and silent may WE all be led, like sheep to the slaughter.
George Washington Censorship is never over for those who have experienced it. It is a brand on the imagination that affects the individual who has suffered it, forever.
Noam Chomsky
LETT
HEREVOL
UTIONB
EGINALL MEMBERS WHO VALUE THEIR RIGHT OF FREE SPEECH AND FIND THE IRONY OF CENSORSHIP ON THIS FORUM TOO MUCH TO STOMACH PLEASE SIGN THE PETITION BELOW: anbesivam1 speebe1 wizzy timba82 |
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Black Rat Press • Black Rat Projects, by balibob on Nov 21, 2012 16:36:30 GMT 1, I'm in if its free, but I'm not doing any ironing.
I'm in if its free, but I'm not doing any ironing.
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Black Rat Press • Black Rat Projects, by curiousgeorge on Nov 21, 2012 17:58:00 GMT 1, Not a peep out of the forum big hitters/helpers/elves....Someone knows what is going on.....
Not a peep out of the forum big hitters/helpers/elves....Someone knows what is going on..... |
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Black Rat Press • Black Rat Projects, by Harveyn on Nov 21, 2012 18:14:21 GMT 1, CG I can only repeat my earlier post.
I am personally not aware of the posts that were deleted or their content.
Hard to talk in a vacuum but I generally do not believe in censorship provided comments are not sexiest, racist, bigoted, homophobic, bullying in nature or overtly insulting towards an individual or group of people.
I am certainly in favour of warning forum members of previous bad experiences in dealing with individuals or organizations provided none of the above applies.
On the question of libellous comments I have no idea whether the administrator of this forum or indeed the moderators are vicariously liable for any such comments made if left in the public domain.
Perhaps whoever deleted the posts could brief the membership of this forum as to the reasons why? I am positive that they were deleted for all the right reasons.
CG I can only repeat my earlier post.
I am personally not aware of the posts that were deleted or their content.
Hard to talk in a vacuum but I generally do not believe in censorship provided comments are not sexiest, racist, bigoted, homophobic, bullying in nature or overtly insulting towards an individual or group of people.
I am certainly in favour of warning forum members of previous bad experiences in dealing with individuals or organizations provided none of the above applies.
On the question of libellous comments I have no idea whether the administrator of this forum or indeed the moderators are vicariously liable for any such comments made if left in the public domain.
Perhaps whoever deleted the posts could brief the membership of this forum as to the reasons why? I am positive that they were deleted for all the right reasons.
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Black Rat Press • Black Rat Projects, by curiousgeorge on Nov 21, 2012 18:50:18 GMT 1, Not directed at you at all Harveyn, well done for nominatig yourself as a big-hitter though 
This debacle will come as no surprise to long term members, it's always been a case of my way or high way here, even in the face of overwhelming opposition from the community/members
Not directed at you at all Harveyn, well done for nominatig yourself as a big-hitter though This debacle will come as no surprise to long term members, it's always been a case of my way or high way here, even in the face of overwhelming opposition from the community/members |
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Black Rat Press • Black Rat Projects, by Harveyn on Nov 21, 2012 18:59:22 GMT 1, Not directed at you at all Harveyn, well done for nominatig yourself as a big-hitter though
LOL
I was thinking more of the elves....
Not directed at you at all Harveyn, well done for nominatig yourself as a big-hitter though LOL I was thinking more of the elves.... |
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Black Rat Press • Black Rat Projects, by Agent Provocateur on Nov 21, 2012 19:12:24 GMT 1, The PM I sent Silky hasn't been read, but hopefully he read it on this thread, no response tho...
If the freedom of speech is taken away, then dumb and silent may WE all be led, like sheep to the slaughter.
George Washington
Censorship is never over for those who have experienced it. It is a brand on the imagination that affects the individual who has suffered it, forever.
Noam Chomsky
LETT
HEREVOL
UTIONB
EGIN
ALL MEMBERS WHO VALUE THEIR RIGHT OF FREE SPEECH AND FIND THE IRONY OF CENSORSHIP ON THIS FORUM TOO MUCH TO STOMACH PLEASE SIGN THE PETITION BELOW:
anbesivam1
speebe1
wizzy
timba82
AP
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Come on comrades, add your names to the list, let's see if there's still some backbone on this forum!
The PM I sent Silky hasn't been read, but hopefully he read it on this thread, no response tho... If the freedom of speech is taken away, then dumb and silent may WE all be led, like sheep to the slaughter.
George Washington Censorship is never over for those who have experienced it. It is a brand on the imagination that affects the individual who has suffered it, forever.
Noam Chomsky
LETT
HEREVOL
UTIONB
EGINALL MEMBERS WHO VALUE THEIR RIGHT OF FREE SPEECH AND FIND THE IRONY OF CENSORSHIP ON THIS FORUM TOO MUCH TO STOMACH PLEASE SIGN THE PETITION BELOW: anbesivam1 speebe1 wizzy timba82 AP - Come on comrades, add your names to the list, let's see if there's still some backbone on this forum! |
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