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Apologies to Banksy - New Store, by apologiesto3anksy on Dec 10, 2012 13:16:19 GMT 1, Thanks for comments guys, wish I was wearing a box as my bollocks are well and truly bruised.
I'll get my coat..
Thanks for comments guys, wish I was wearing a box as my bollocks are well and truly bruised.
I'll get my coat..
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Apologies to Banksy - New Store, by Deleted on Dec 10, 2012 13:25:21 GMT 1, Dont listen to the idiots on here mate.... Itsnot like you are producing exact copies of Banksy, yes you are using his images but you are merley exploiting his own lack of cooyrightprotection....hes fair game! Good luck!
Dont listen to the idiots on here mate.... Itsnot like you are producing exact copies of Banksy, yes you are using his images but you are merley exploiting his own lack of cooyrightprotection....hes fair game! Good luck!
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Apologies to Banksy - New Store, by Deleted on Dec 10, 2012 13:28:46 GMT 1, For someone called Einstein you couldn't be more clueless
For someone called Einstein you couldn't be more clueless
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Apologies to Banksy - New Store, by Deleted on Dec 10, 2012 13:35:04 GMT 1, Guys give this guy a break!!he only asked for your thoughts not to hang him out to dry!! What is wrong with a little inventiveness ?? He ain't doing any of you any harm? If you don't like them fair enough but no need for all this backlash! It's Xmas after all ... Time will tell if this works , but at least give him that!
The definition of invent :
Create or design (something that has not existed before); be the originator of.
This is not inventive by any stretch unfortunately, good on you for having a go but this is just making knock off banksy products to me.
Guys give this guy a break!!he only asked for your thoughts not to hang him out to dry!! What is wrong with a little inventiveness ?? He ain't doing any of you any harm? If you don't like them fair enough but no need for all this backlash! It's Xmas after all ... Time will tell if this works , but at least give him that! The definition of invent : Create or design (something that has not existed before); be the originator of. This is not inventive by any stretch unfortunately, good on you for having a go but this is just making knock off banksy products to me.
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Apologies to Banksy - New Store, by saint on Dec 10, 2012 13:52:19 GMT 1, I'm confused. The guy posted a thread asking for opinions, people gave their opinions (albeit quite forcefully in some cases), and in the majority people dont like the idea, product and use of banksy images and banksys name..... and thats a problem why?
If you post stuff for sale, and its rubbish, why shouldnt it get pointed out to you? If you post something and its good, people will say, if you post something and its not, people should be allowed to say that also no?
I've always wondered that about this forum, artists post work asking for opinions, hoping to get everyone telling them how great they are, often the reverse happens, and then they start crying to silky and i get a message telling me not to post on the artists thread anymore....
I'm confused. The guy posted a thread asking for opinions, people gave their opinions (albeit quite forcefully in some cases), and in the majority people dont like the idea, product and use of banksy images and banksys name..... and thats a problem why?
If you post stuff for sale, and its rubbish, why shouldnt it get pointed out to you? If you post something and its good, people will say, if you post something and its not, people should be allowed to say that also no?
I've always wondered that about this forum, artists post work asking for opinions, hoping to get everyone telling them how great they are, often the reverse happens, and then they start crying to silky and i get a message telling me not to post on the artists thread anymore....
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Apologies to Banksy - New Store, by LAZAKY on Dec 10, 2012 14:02:43 GMT 1, No matter about what you sell/produce Apologiesto3anksy, as some says you can invest and try to sell your products, that not the problem. Copying is part of the game, I agree with that, but using an artist name as a brand name is absolutely not fair, even if banksy has not copyrighting his art. People who don't know banksy as much as us, could think it's banksy's art... And it's not, that the problem. I think we could have the same reaction if the guy who sell "invader like" mosaic on eBay, ask here what we think about his products...
No matter about what you sell/produce Apologiesto3anksy, as some says you can invest and try to sell your products, that not the problem. Copying is part of the game, I agree with that, but using an artist name as a brand name is absolutely not fair, even if banksy has not copyrighting his art. People who don't know banksy as much as us, could think it's banksy's art... And it's not, that the problem. I think we could have the same reaction if the guy who sell "invader like" mosaic on eBay, ask here what we think about his products...
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Apologies to Banksy - New Store, by anarquee on Dec 10, 2012 14:06:28 GMT 1, banksy's stencil works are hard to translate in 3d form... i'd have rather tried with the telephone booth... but... not everything banksy related is supposed to sell...
banksy's stencil works are hard to translate in 3d form... i'd have rather tried with the telephone booth... but... not everything banksy related is supposed to sell...
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Apologies to Banksy - New Store, by illu on Dec 10, 2012 14:55:39 GMT 1, aarrrrrgggggghhhnn
aarrrrrgggggghhhnn
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Apologies to Banksy - New Store, by Dr Plip on Dec 10, 2012 14:59:02 GMT 1, Are these manufactured in the UK?
Are these manufactured in the UK?
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Apologies to Banksy - New Store, by nah on Dec 10, 2012 15:41:09 GMT 1, This is no better or worse than West Country prince prints and that contemptuous bilge is praised here
yep - weird.
This is no better or worse than West Country prince prints and that contemptuous bilge is praised here yep - weird.
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Apologies to Banksy - New Store, by astrobboy on Dec 10, 2012 20:09:27 GMT 1, People could start a new collection of bootleg banksy toys...
People could start a new collection of bootleg banksy toys...
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Apologies to Banksy - New Store, by Deleted on Dec 10, 2012 20:43:43 GMT 1, Deputydog I think you need to grow up buddy ...won't get into an argument with some ignorant idiot!
Deputydog I think you need to grow up buddy ...won't get into an argument with some ignorant idiot!
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Apologies to Banksy - New Store, by iamzero on Dec 10, 2012 21:17:23 GMT 1, Wow... That's bad. Would love to see them pitch this on Dragons Den.
Wow... That's bad. Would love to see them pitch this on Dragons Den.
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Apologies to Banksy - New Store, by stillborncrisps on Dec 11, 2012 0:38:27 GMT 1, All of this stuff is at the same level as the 'Banksy' canvases you can buy at any market up and down the country. If someone came on here flogging that stuff they'd get abused too.
Fair enough the guy's only trying to make a dollar, and Banksy himself used to bootleg band posters in exactly the same vain before he got 'famous', so you can't knock this dude for that.
But someone's got their target market wrong. There's no artistic interpretation/re-appropriation going on here (like your Bejoir, Dface or Invader) and the guy's not an artist, few people on this forum will think it's of any value. It belongs on Camden Market, where I'm sure he'll do a roaring trade.
All of this stuff is at the same level as the 'Banksy' canvases you can buy at any market up and down the country. If someone came on here flogging that stuff they'd get abused too.
Fair enough the guy's only trying to make a dollar, and Banksy himself used to bootleg band posters in exactly the same vain before he got 'famous', so you can't knock this dude for that.
But someone's got their target market wrong. There's no artistic interpretation/re-appropriation going on here (like your Bejoir, Dface or Invader) and the guy's not an artist, few people on this forum will think it's of any value. It belongs on Camden Market, where I'm sure he'll do a roaring trade.
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Apologies to Banksy - New Store, by naughtyshorty on Dec 11, 2012 3:31:52 GMT 1, my issue isnt about ripping off banksy images, my issue is that the product is a load of crap and looks rubbish. Feedback my be a bit harsh, but what do you honestly expect posting it on a site of banksy lovers? The owner of the site should take the feedback on board and fully consider it, before they even think about putting more money into the business. This isnt being nasty - its actually helpful feedback. If the market doesnt want what you are producing, its time to look at other options..
my issue isnt about ripping off banksy images, my issue is that the product is a load of crap and looks rubbish. Feedback my be a bit harsh, but what do you honestly expect posting it on a site of banksy lovers? The owner of the site should take the feedback on board and fully consider it, before they even think about putting more money into the business. This isnt being nasty - its actually helpful feedback. If the market doesnt want what you are producing, its time to look at other options..
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Apologies to Banksy - New Store, by Tompkins on Dec 11, 2012 3:49:51 GMT 1, They are just simply, Not cool.
They are just simply, Not cool.
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Apologies to Banksy - New Store, by Cedric Mnich on Dec 11, 2012 10:10:56 GMT 1, Well looks like Poser modelling / 3D printing and vinyl casting. Should be good for London and Bristol souvenir shops, for tourists. Won't be the first trying to make a few $$$ piggybacking Banksy...
Well looks like Poser modelling / 3D printing and vinyl casting. Should be good for London and Bristol souvenir shops, for tourists. Won't be the first trying to make a few $$$ piggybacking Banksy...
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Apologies to Banksy - New Store, by apologiesto3anksy on Dec 11, 2012 11:25:24 GMT 1, Thanks for your comments guys, it is appreciated.
I am a genuine Banksy fan/collector who has been a member on here for years (under a different username) and dealt with many of you in the past. I knew some abuse would come our way, itโs the way it works on here.
Time will tell if there is a market for these, I guess for the die hard fans it may not be up your alley, but for those that like the WCP prints, coasters, phone covers etc with Banksy images, then this may be more to your liking.
For what it is worth, if you value someoneโs opinion, we showed prototypes to a very well respected framer on here who thought they were pretty cool.
Thanks for your comments guys, it is appreciated.
I am a genuine Banksy fan/collector who has been a member on here for years (under a different username) and dealt with many of you in the past. I knew some abuse would come our way, itโs the way it works on here.
Time will tell if there is a market for these, I guess for the die hard fans it may not be up your alley, but for those that like the WCP prints, coasters, phone covers etc with Banksy images, then this may be more to your liking.
For what it is worth, if you value someoneโs opinion, we showed prototypes to a very well respected framer on here who thought they were pretty cool.
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Apologies to Banksy - New Store, by lifeonwalls on Dec 11, 2012 17:26:59 GMT 1, Someone "thinking they are cool" and someone willing to pay money for them are two different categories.
I'm a vinyl fan but wouldn't shell out money for one of these - part of the appeal of vinyl is the paint and color to them - making someone paint it themselves as a fun craft project isn't the market - there are blank dunnys/munny/etc. in the kidrobot shop for that type of stuff. MOre than likely someone would attempt to paint it, it would turn out like crap, and they would throw it out in frustration.
They should be painted to an exact standard, not blanks in all sorts of colors that make no sense.
At least you got the feedback you were looking for, some companies have to pay for that information.
Someone "thinking they are cool" and someone willing to pay money for them are two different categories.
I'm a vinyl fan but wouldn't shell out money for one of these - part of the appeal of vinyl is the paint and color to them - making someone paint it themselves as a fun craft project isn't the market - there are blank dunnys/munny/etc. in the kidrobot shop for that type of stuff. MOre than likely someone would attempt to paint it, it would turn out like crap, and they would throw it out in frustration.
They should be painted to an exact standard, not blanks in all sorts of colors that make no sense.
At least you got the feedback you were looking for, some companies have to pay for that information.
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Apologies to Banksy - New Store, by Lord Lucas Roham on Dec 11, 2012 21:41:02 GMT 1, Big vinyl fan and love these.
Far and away more inventive than the formulaic, plagiarised shit from the likes of MBW and his ilk that most of this board seem to worship.
Big vinyl fan and love these.
Far and away more inventive than the formulaic, plagiarised shit from the likes of MBW and his ilk that most of this board seem to worship.
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Apologies to Banksy - New Store, by Deleted on Dec 11, 2012 21:57:07 GMT 1, Big vinyl fan and love these. Far and away more inventive than the formulaic, plagiarised s**t from the likes of MBW and his ilk that most of this board seem to worship.
Surely as a 'vinyl fan' you must be able to see that these are poorly sculpted...and clearly plagiarised too!
Mr Brainwash = MEH
Big vinyl fan and love these. Far and away more inventive than the formulaic, plagiarised s**t from the likes of MBW and his ilk that most of this board seem to worship. Surely as a 'vinyl fan' you must be able to see that these are poorly sculpted...and clearly plagiarised too! Mr Brainwash = MEH
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Apologies to Banksy - New Store, by Happy Shopper on Dec 12, 2012 0:39:38 GMT 1, Big vinyl fan and love these. Far and away more inventive than the formulaic, plagiarised s**t from the likes of MBW and his ilk that most of this board seem to worship.
Big vinyl fan and love these. Far and away more inventive than the formulaic, plagiarised s**t from the likes of MBW and his ilk that most of this board seem to worship.
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Apologies to Banksy - New Store, by jojo21 on Dec 12, 2012 3:19:13 GMT 1, burpppp
oups sorry i almost threw up
burpppp
oups sorry i almost threw up
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Apologies to Banksy - New Store, by mrblast on Dec 12, 2012 10:48:30 GMT 1, I'm confused. The guy posted a thread asking for opinions, people gave their opinions (albeit quite forcefully in some cases), and in the majority people dont like the idea, product and use of banksy images and banksys name..... and thats a problem why? If you post stuff for sale, and its rubbish, why shouldnt it get pointed out to you? If you post something and its good, people will say, if you post something and its not, people should be allowed to say that also no? I've always wondered that about this forum, artists post work asking for opinions, hoping to get everyone telling them how great they are, often the reverse happens, and then they start crying to silky and i get a message telling me not to post on the artists thread anymore....
There is a difference between people giving negative feedback and people being borderline abusive and other people just piling in to hurl abusive comments around.
I would never buy these figurines (as I don't like them or vinyl figures in general) but they're not a bad idea. I can't really tell what the quality is like from the pictures so can't comment on that. However, I bet if it was POW selling these, the majority of posters on here would be creaming themselves.
I'm confused. The guy posted a thread asking for opinions, people gave their opinions (albeit quite forcefully in some cases), and in the majority people dont like the idea, product and use of banksy images and banksys name..... and thats a problem why? If you post stuff for sale, and its rubbish, why shouldnt it get pointed out to you? If you post something and its good, people will say, if you post something and its not, people should be allowed to say that also no? I've always wondered that about this forum, artists post work asking for opinions, hoping to get everyone telling them how great they are, often the reverse happens, and then they start crying to silky and i get a message telling me not to post on the artists thread anymore.... There is a difference between people giving negative feedback and people being borderline abusive and other people just piling in to hurl abusive comments around. I would never buy these figurines (as I don't like them or vinyl figures in general) but they're not a bad idea. I can't really tell what the quality is like from the pictures so can't comment on that. However, I bet if it was POW selling these, the majority of posters on here would be creaming themselves.
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Apologies to Banksy - New Store, by iamzero on Dec 12, 2012 10:57:59 GMT 1, I'm guessing there is a market for these but just not on here. I have a fair few vinyl figures but wouldn't go for these, sorry.
I'm guessing there is a market for these but just not on here. I have a fair few vinyl figures but wouldn't go for these, sorry.
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Apologies to Banksy - New Store, by Cedric Mnich on Dec 12, 2012 11:10:02 GMT 1, Certainly, But difference would be that POW might be authorized or mandated by Banksy to sell them and would be some kind of "official", implying royalties etc.
Certainly, But difference would be that POW might be authorized or mandated by Banksy to sell them and would be some kind of "official", implying royalties etc.
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Apologies to Banksy - New Store, by rottenredrooster on Dec 12, 2012 11:21:25 GMT 1, I can't see there being much of a market for these. Whenever I search eBay for Banksy. People are trying to offload phone cases, mugs etc in bulk at cut down prices.
It's not my place to say what I think of them but I would have a long hard look before you plunge more cash in to this at whether or not people would actually buy them.
You are right people have and do buy phone covers, fake canvases and mugs with it on. But these are items that always get used to promote a new design. A Vinyl Toy is different. Does the average person who just has a little insight into Banksy and likes one or two of his images want one of these?
Do collectors want them?
I can't see there being much of a market for these. Whenever I search eBay for Banksy. People are trying to offload phone cases, mugs etc in bulk at cut down prices.
It's not my place to say what I think of them but I would have a long hard look before you plunge more cash in to this at whether or not people would actually buy them.
You are right people have and do buy phone covers, fake canvases and mugs with it on. But these are items that always get used to promote a new design. A Vinyl Toy is different. Does the average person who just has a little insight into Banksy and likes one or two of his images want one of these?
Do collectors want them?
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Apologies to Banksy - New Store, by balibob on Dec 12, 2012 11:27:57 GMT 1, They are not just rip offs, but badly designed and executed rip offs..... I'll have 2.
They are not just rip offs, but badly designed and executed rip offs..... I'll have 2.
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Apologies to Banksy - New Store, by Dr Plip on Dec 12, 2012 12:08:40 GMT 1, I'm surprised that nobody has done it before. Maybe if they were caricatures or lampooning famous Banksy images?
Maybe Bomb Hugger hopping and clutching her toe, after dropping the bomb on her foot?
I know Banksy doesn't worry about his copyright, but does anyone know whether, in years to come, he can suddenly claim copyright and sue anyone that's been reproducing his work?
I'm surprised that nobody has done it before. Maybe if they were caricatures or lampooning famous Banksy images?
Maybe Bomb Hugger hopping and clutching her toe, after dropping the bomb on her foot?
I know Banksy doesn't worry about his copyright, but does anyone know whether, in years to come, he can suddenly claim copyright and sue anyone that's been reproducing his work?
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Apologies to Banksy - New Store, by warsaw project on Dec 12, 2012 12:15:44 GMT 1, There was a lot of talk last year about a vinyl rat being released officially... All gone quiet on that front......
There was a lot of talk last year about a vinyl rat being released officially... All gone quiet on that front......
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