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Herzog & de Meuron and Ai Weiwei Print, by johnnyh on Jul 5, 2012 5:25:27 GMT 1, Thx Love
Re Plip Think it might be interesting if you looked a little bit deeper into what he does, what he has done in China and how he has used art and his installations to promote the development of the Chinese people and freedom. Check out his school bag piece at the front of the Kunst Musuem in Munich the history surrounding it and his involvement.
Also often lost in the media as not really understood is his promotion of and usage of traditional artisans and crafts men to produce his installations.
If you notice he does a lot of ceramics they all come from jingdezhen? This produced the famous Chinese porcelain long before the Ming dynasty but most people know the Ming porcelain.
Through the cultural revolution and Mao they made Mao badges and statues and cheap crap and the tourist dross and copies in general.
Ai Wei Wei has a factory there where he employs and support true porcelain and ceramic artists. Hence all the sunflower seeds were individually made and hand painted.
His use of wood and wood artists
So without knocking Hirst you are very much mistaken in your comparrison as Ai Wei Wei uses his money when not taken by the Govt in very different ways.
Not many artists if any have become architects and he has been involved in amazing structures.
An amazing man and one of the worlds truley great artists. He not only makes his statements but lives through his campaigns as well which rarely happens in the art world.
Sorry to bang on ;D !!!!
Thx Love
Re Plip Think it might be interesting if you looked a little bit deeper into what he does, what he has done in China and how he has used art and his installations to promote the development of the Chinese people and freedom. Check out his school bag piece at the front of the Kunst Musuem in Munich the history surrounding it and his involvement.
Also often lost in the media as not really understood is his promotion of and usage of traditional artisans and crafts men to produce his installations.
If you notice he does a lot of ceramics they all come from jingdezhen? This produced the famous Chinese porcelain long before the Ming dynasty but most people know the Ming porcelain.
Through the cultural revolution and Mao they made Mao badges and statues and cheap crap and the tourist dross and copies in general.
Ai Wei Wei has a factory there where he employs and support true porcelain and ceramic artists. Hence all the sunflower seeds were individually made and hand painted.
His use of wood and wood artists
So without knocking Hirst you are very much mistaken in your comparrison as Ai Wei Wei uses his money when not taken by the Govt in very different ways.
Not many artists if any have become architects and he has been involved in amazing structures.
An amazing man and one of the worlds truley great artists. He not only makes his statements but lives through his campaigns as well which rarely happens in the art world.
Sorry to bang on ;D !!!!
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Herzog & de Meuron and Ai Weiwei Print, by letiss on Jul 5, 2012 7:02:13 GMT 1, Curious as to peoples interest in this image. Is it due to the architecture of the serpentine pavilion or the fact Ai Weiwei's signature is on it? If it is due to the architecture it'd be nice to hear why people liked it. He could release a signed cheese board and people would buy it. One day, people will spot a zipper in his back, pull it and Damien Hirst will tumble out. Probably. On a lighter note. I think I have a crush on Ai Weiwei. He's such a character. I think the controversy surrounding him and his government plays its part. If he was just an ordinary man in his shed, slowly drowning in sketches and ceramic sunflower seeds, maybe I wouldn't find him so lovably interesting. Maybe.
Not sure if we're looking at the same work here. These are technical architectural sketches from a world class team and not a random mess. It's a bit different to photoshopped Einsteins from MBW or Hirst fodder.
Curious as to peoples interest in this image. Is it due to the architecture of the serpentine pavilion or the fact Ai Weiwei's signature is on it? If it is due to the architecture it'd be nice to hear why people liked it. He could release a signed cheese board and people would buy it. One day, people will spot a zipper in his back, pull it and Damien Hirst will tumble out. Probably. On a lighter note. I think I have a crush on Ai Weiwei. He's such a character. I think the controversy surrounding him and his government plays its part. If he was just an ordinary man in his shed, slowly drowning in sketches and ceramic sunflower seeds, maybe I wouldn't find him so lovably interesting. Maybe. Not sure if we're looking at the same work here. These are technical architectural sketches from a world class team and not a random mess. It's a bit different to photoshopped Einsteins from MBW or Hirst fodder. |
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Herzog & de Meuron and Ai Weiwei Print, by Phear Loathing on Jul 5, 2012 7:13:37 GMT 1, I for one am really excited about this. Thanks love!
I for one am really excited about this. Thanks love!
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Herzog & de Meuron and Ai Weiwei Print, by Winter on Jul 5, 2012 8:15:44 GMT 1, I took this a couple of weeks ago and really liked the image - it's a good size and is a very stylish wall-friendly piece
I took this a couple of weeks ago and really liked the image - it's a good size and is a very stylish wall-friendly piece |
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Herzog & de Meuron and Ai Weiwei Print, by anarquee on Jul 5, 2012 9:11:58 GMT 1, thanks for sharing.
i like the image!
also like the size and the super heavy paper!
if they changed the colours this could be considered a deconstructed hirst rip off! 
thanks for sharing. i like the image! also like the size and the super heavy paper! if they changed the colours this could be considered a deconstructed hirst rip off! |
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Herzog & de Meuron and Ai Weiwei Print, by aj2010 on Jul 5, 2012 9:12:59 GMT 1, IMO this print has a limited appeal except for the signatures. I would rather spend the money buying something I would actually get pleasure from looking at and not a tech drawing.
IMO this print has a limited appeal except for the signatures. I would rather spend the money buying something I would actually get pleasure from looking at and not a tech drawing.
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Herzog & de Meuron and Ai Weiwei Print, by gwhit on Jul 5, 2012 9:20:04 GMT 1, thats art for you aj
thats art for you aj
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Herzog & de Meuron and Ai Weiwei Print, by They call me Stephen on Jul 5, 2012 9:52:41 GMT 1, if they changed the colours this could be considered a deconstructed hirst rip off!
IMO this print has a limited appeal except for the signatures. I would rather spend the money buying something I would actually get pleasure from looking at and not a tech drawing.
Considering that no-one is able to say what they liked about the architecture of the pavilion yet are willing to spend ยฃ300+ on this print would suggest that the only appeal to this image is the signatures. In that sense it is a deconstructed Hirst spot image โ a series of unrelated objects that provoke no real reaction other than โAi Weiwei is very important donโt you knowโ
if they changed the colours this could be considered a deconstructed hirst rip off! IMO this print has a limited appeal except for the signatures. I would rather spend the money buying something I would actually get pleasure from looking at and not a tech drawing. Considering that no-one is able to say what they liked about the architecture of the pavilion yet are willing to spend ยฃ300+ on this print would suggest that the only appeal to this image is the signatures. In that sense it is a deconstructed Hirst spot image โ a series of unrelated objects that provoke no real reaction other than โAi Weiwei is very important donโt you knowโ |
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Herzog & de Meuron and Ai Weiwei Print, by Gentle Mental on Jul 5, 2012 10:24:05 GMT 1, "after the rain, the world becomes a big mirror" is what ai said (bad translation) about the piece. very very pretty.
on the print, i think it's more than blueprints. it's like watching great minds think. chess movements. it's beautiful just staring and imagining their thought processes.
"after the rain, the world becomes a big mirror" is what ai said (bad translation) about the piece. very very pretty.
on the print, i think it's more than blueprints. it's like watching great minds think. chess movements. it's beautiful just staring and imagining their thought processes.
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Herzog & de Meuron and Ai Weiwei Print, by anarquee on Jul 5, 2012 11:05:43 GMT 1, Every year since 2000, a different architect has been responsible for creating the Serpentine Galleryโs Summer Pavilion for Kensington Gardens. That makes eleven Pavilions so far, our contribution is the twelfth. So many Pavilions in so many different shapes and out of so many different materials have been conceived and built that we tried instinctively to sidestep the unavoidable problem of creating an object, a concrete shape. Our path to an alternative solution involves digging down some five feet into the soil of the park until we reach the groundwater. There we dig a waterhole, a kind of well, to collect all of the London rain that falls in the area of the Pavilion. In that way we incorporate an otherwise invisible aspect of reality in the park โ the water under the ground โ into our Pavilion. As we dig down into the earth to reach the groundwater, we encounter a diversity of constructed realities such as telephone cables, remains of former foundations or backfills. Like a team of archaeologists, we identify these physical fragments as remains of the eleven Pavilions built between 2000 and 2011. Their shape varies: circular, long and narrow, dot shaped and also large, constructed hollows that have been filled in. These remnants testify to the existence of the former Pavilions and their more or less invasive intervention in the natural environment of the park.
All of these traces of former pavilions will now be revealed and reconstructed. The former foundations and footprints form a jumble of convoluted lines, like a sewing pattern. A distinctive landscape emerges which is unlike anything we could have invented; its form and shape is actually a serendipitous gift. The plastic reality of this landscape is astonishing and it is also the perfect place to sit, stand, lie down or just look and be awed. In other words, the ideal environment for continuing to do what visitors have been doing in the Serpentine Gallery Pavilions over the past eleven years. The pavilionโs interior is clad in cork โ a natural material with great haptic and olfactory qualities and the versatility to be carved, cut, shaped and formed.
On the foundations of each single Pavilion, we extrude a new structure (supports, walls, slices) as loadbearing elements for the roof of our Pavilion โ eleven supports all told, plus our own column that we can place at will, like a wild card. The roof resembles that of an archaeological site. It floats a few feet above the grass of the park, so that everyone visiting can see the water on it, its surface reflecting the infinitely varied, atmospheric skies of London. For special events, the water can be drained off the roof as from a bathtub, from whence it flows back into the waterhole, the deepest point in the Pavilion landscape. The dry roof can then be used as a dance floor or simply as a platform suspended above the park.
Herzog & de Meuron and Ai Weiwei, 2012
Every year since 2000, a different architect has been responsible for creating the Serpentine Galleryโs Summer Pavilion for Kensington Gardens. That makes eleven Pavilions so far, our contribution is the twelfth. So many Pavilions in so many different shapes and out of so many different materials have been conceived and built that we tried instinctively to sidestep the unavoidable problem of creating an object, a concrete shape. Our path to an alternative solution involves digging down some five feet into the soil of the park until we reach the groundwater. There we dig a waterhole, a kind of well, to collect all of the London rain that falls in the area of the Pavilion. In that way we incorporate an otherwise invisible aspect of reality in the park โ the water under the ground โ into our Pavilion. As we dig down into the earth to reach the groundwater, we encounter a diversity of constructed realities such as telephone cables, remains of former foundations or backfills. Like a team of archaeologists, we identify these physical fragments as remains of the eleven Pavilions built between 2000 and 2011. Their shape varies: circular, long and narrow, dot shaped and also large, constructed hollows that have been filled in. These remnants testify to the existence of the former Pavilions and their more or less invasive intervention in the natural environment of the park.
All of these traces of former pavilions will now be revealed and reconstructed. The former foundations and footprints form a jumble of convoluted lines, like a sewing pattern. A distinctive landscape emerges which is unlike anything we could have invented; its form and shape is actually a serendipitous gift. The plastic reality of this landscape is astonishing and it is also the perfect place to sit, stand, lie down or just look and be awed. In other words, the ideal environment for continuing to do what visitors have been doing in the Serpentine Gallery Pavilions over the past eleven years. The pavilionโs interior is clad in cork โ a natural material with great haptic and olfactory qualities and the versatility to be carved, cut, shaped and formed.
On the foundations of each single Pavilion, we extrude a new structure (supports, walls, slices) as loadbearing elements for the roof of our Pavilion โ eleven supports all told, plus our own column that we can place at will, like a wild card. The roof resembles that of an archaeological site. It floats a few feet above the grass of the park, so that everyone visiting can see the water on it, its surface reflecting the infinitely varied, atmospheric skies of London. For special events, the water can be drained off the roof as from a bathtub, from whence it flows back into the waterhole, the deepest point in the Pavilion landscape. The dry roof can then be used as a dance floor or simply as a platform suspended above the park.
Herzog & de Meuron and Ai Weiwei, 2012
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Herzog & de Meuron and Ai Weiwei Print, by Happy Shopper on Jul 5, 2012 11:44:40 GMT 1, The Pavillion itself is amazing. Went there a few weeks ago by chance and thought it looked incredible.
Really fun use of the space, the giant Corks, there were people just chilling in one corner while kids were jumping about on another side.
The water on the top creates a mirror that reflects the gallery (and the sky obviously).
I think the print is a great way to remember it, although not a work of art in itself. I'm still tempted though as it's such a lovely thing!
The Pavillion itself is amazing. Went there a few weeks ago by chance and thought it looked incredible.
Really fun use of the space, the giant Corks, there were people just chilling in one corner while kids were jumping about on another side.
The water on the top creates a mirror that reflects the gallery (and the sky obviously).
I think the print is a great way to remember it, although not a work of art in itself. I'm still tempted though as it's such a lovely thing!
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Herzog & de Meuron and Ai Weiwei Print, by tommm9 on Jul 5, 2012 12:02:42 GMT 1, I'm gonna get one framed for my Dad as he's an architect and I think it would look great on his office wall
I'm gonna get one framed for my Dad as he's an architect and I think it would look great on his office wall
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Herzog & de Meuron and Ai Weiwei Print, by sal on Jul 5, 2012 12:20:19 GMT 1, โAi Weiwei is very important donโt you knowโ
with slightly different wording, that's about enough reason for me to get excited about this.. Herzog & de Meuron are huge names in architect world, Weiwei is a huge name in the art world, and Im not living on a cloud thinking I'll ever be able to get any of their really important, more iconic works.. so having a signed blueprint by these guys works good for me..
the reason I bought this, and the reason I bought a painting by Tessar Lo are totally different, but the way they make me feel comes to about the same..
โAi Weiwei is very important donโt you knowโ with slightly different wording, that's about enough reason for me to get excited about this.. Herzog & de Meuron are huge names in architect world, Weiwei is a huge name in the art world, and Im not living on a cloud thinking I'll ever be able to get any of their really important, more iconic works.. so having a signed blueprint by these guys works good for me.. the reason I bought this, and the reason I bought a painting by Tessar Lo are totally different, but the way they make me feel comes to about the same.. |
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Herzog & de Meuron and Ai Weiwei Print, by johnnyh on Jul 5, 2012 12:50:55 GMT 1, if they changed the colours this could be considered a deconstructed hirst rip off! IMO this print has a limited appeal except for the signatures. I would rather spend the money buying something I would actually get pleasure from looking at and not a tech drawing. Considering that no-one is able to say what they liked about the architecture of the pavilion yet are willing to spend ยฃ300+ on this print would suggest that the only appeal to this image is the signatures. In that sense it is a deconstructed Hirst spot image โ a series of unrelated objects that provoke no real reaction other than โAi Weiwei is very important donโt you knowโ
Apart from the later explanations there are two video posts about the pavilion. Think looking at it most people would agree its a stunning piece of work. May be you should watch them.
I've not seen the print in the flesh but would assume and did assume that it will be beautifully put together and therefore well worth the 300 quid. So yes the artist is Ai Wei Wei deciding factor in the purchase but nothing new in that. Part of that attraction is also who he is and what he stands for.
In a lot of art symbolism and the meaning is often more important than the image. Banksy as this a Banksy forum in almost all cases the message and symbolism is more important than the image.
Did I buy it because it was an affordable Ai Wei Wei yes I did. Does it look good yes and will it look better in the flesh I assume so and very happy with that.
if they changed the colours this could be considered a deconstructed hirst rip off! IMO this print has a limited appeal except for the signatures. I would rather spend the money buying something I would actually get pleasure from looking at and not a tech drawing. Considering that no-one is able to say what they liked about the architecture of the pavilion yet are willing to spend ยฃ300+ on this print would suggest that the only appeal to this image is the signatures. In that sense it is a deconstructed Hirst spot image โ a series of unrelated objects that provoke no real reaction other than โAi Weiwei is very important donโt you knowโ Apart from the later explanations there are two video posts about the pavilion. Think looking at it most people would agree its a stunning piece of work. May be you should watch them. I've not seen the print in the flesh but would assume and did assume that it will be beautifully put together and therefore well worth the 300 quid. So yes the artist is Ai Wei Wei deciding factor in the purchase but nothing new in that. Part of that attraction is also who he is and what he stands for. In a lot of art symbolism and the meaning is often more important than the image. Banksy as this a Banksy forum in almost all cases the message and symbolism is more important than the image. Did I buy it because it was an affordable Ai Wei Wei yes I did. Does it look good yes and will it look better in the flesh I assume so and very happy with that. |
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Herzog & de Meuron and Ai Weiwei Print, by nah on Jul 5, 2012 13:03:23 GMT 1, I took this a couple of weeks ago and really liked the image - it's a good size and is a very stylish wall-friendly piece [pic]
thanks for posting this - wasn't sure based on the digital image but it looks very cool framed up.
anyone know if they're available to be collected straight away?
I took this a couple of weeks ago and really liked the image - it's a good size and is a very stylish wall-friendly piece [pic] thanks for posting this - wasn't sure based on the digital image but it looks very cool framed up. anyone know if they're available to be collected straight away? |
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Herzog & de Meuron and Ai Weiwei Print, by johnnyh on Jul 5, 2012 13:19:12 GMT 1, No could be as late as August as not signed yet. Ai Wei Wei cannot leave China so assume they send them out and then get them sent back. They sent an email about it apologizing.
No could be as late as August as not signed yet. Ai Wei Wei cannot leave China so assume they send them out and then get them sent back. They sent an email about it apologizing.
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Herzog & de Meuron and Ai Weiwei Print, by sal on Jul 5, 2012 13:24:29 GMT 1, true Johnnyh, I was told the prints are on the way to China to get signed by Ai, and once they come back they'll be ready for pickup/shipping...
true Johnnyh, I was told the prints are on the way to China to get signed by Ai, and once they come back they'll be ready for pickup/shipping...
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Herzog & de Meuron and Ai Weiwei Print, by nah on Jul 5, 2012 13:40:09 GMT 1, ahh ok, thanks.
ahh ok, thanks.
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Herzog & de Meuron and Ai Weiwei Print, by holden on Jul 5, 2012 13:46:17 GMT 1, i like it, thanks for sharing love
deconstruction, evolution, many parts making a whole....i find it engaging and thought provoking wrt the finished item
isnt that what arts about?
i like it, thanks for sharing love
deconstruction, evolution, many parts making a whole....i find it engaging and thought provoking wrt the finished item
isnt that what arts about?
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Herzog & de Meuron and Ai Weiwei Print, by They call me Stephen on Jul 5, 2012 13:46:43 GMT 1, Apart from the later explanations there are two video posts about the pavilion. Think looking at it most people would agree its a stunning piece of work. May be you should watch them.
Johnny, Iโm an architect. Iโm more than well versed in the serpentine pavilions over the years, have watched the videos above, visited the pavilion and seen the print in person.
My reason for asking my initial question to see what peopleโs opinions of the building was rather than the usual โI love itโ, โgetting it dropโ, โmissed outโ bollocks that normally populates threads. I wanted to start a discussion on an art forum which I think is fair enough - sorry if you thought I was wrong for doing so, the negative karmas Iโm getting show that some do.
I think the project is brilliant theoretically but a let-down in reality and finish. The project was about revealing the original foundations of the previous serpentines which would then be used as this years. The reality was that when they started digging they found nothing so altered their description and created a series of new โfalseโ foundations creating a false past. Taking it back to street art/Banksy as you did I guess it is like the Cargo tunnels on Rivington Street trying to restore Banksyโs early Rivington Street exhibition โ but failing and just re-painting it. The concept and reality would be flawed. I also think the premise of the serpentine is tired and dated but that is another discussion โ who could do it next year for example??
I would presume that the majority of people who will be buying this from this forum will be buying for Ai Weiweiโs named that of course is fine, his work typically stands up by itself. If you are going to frame this and put it on your wall I would like to know how you would describe it to people visiting your home.
Apart from the later explanations there are two video posts about the pavilion. Think looking at it most people would agree its a stunning piece of work. May be you should watch them. Johnny, Iโm an architect. Iโm more than well versed in the serpentine pavilions over the years, have watched the videos above, visited the pavilion and seen the print in person. My reason for asking my initial question to see what peopleโs opinions of the building was rather than the usual โI love itโ, โgetting it dropโ, โmissed outโ bollocks that normally populates threads. I wanted to start a discussion on an art forum which I think is fair enough - sorry if you thought I was wrong for doing so, the negative karmas Iโm getting show that some do. I think the project is brilliant theoretically but a let-down in reality and finish. The project was about revealing the original foundations of the previous serpentines which would then be used as this years. The reality was that when they started digging they found nothing so altered their description and created a series of new โfalseโ foundations creating a false past. Taking it back to street art/Banksy as you did I guess it is like the Cargo tunnels on Rivington Street trying to restore Banksyโs early Rivington Street exhibition โ but failing and just re-painting it. The concept and reality would be flawed. I also think the premise of the serpentine is tired and dated but that is another discussion โ who could do it next year for example?? I would presume that the majority of people who will be buying this from this forum will be buying for Ai Weiweiโs named that of course is fine, his work typically stands up by itself. If you are going to frame this and put it on your wall I would like to know how you would describe it to people visiting your home. |
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Herzog & de Meuron and Ai Weiwei Print, by gwhit on Jul 5, 2012 14:02:39 GMT 1, Apart from the later explanations there are two video posts about the pavilion. Think looking at it most people would agree its a stunning piece of work. May be you should watch them. Johnny, Iโm an architect. Iโm more than well versed in the serpentine pavilions over the years, have watched the videos above, visited the pavilion and seen the print in person. My reason for asking my initial question to see what peopleโs opinions of the building was rather than the usual โI love itโ, โgetting it dropโ, โmissed outโ bollocks that normally populates threads. I wanted to start a discussion on an art forum which I think is fair enough - sorry if you thought I was wrong for doing so, the negative karmas Iโm getting show that some do. I think the project is brilliant theoretically but a let-down in reality and finish. The project was about revealing the original foundations of the previous serpentines which would then be used as this years. The reality was that when they started digging they found nothing so altered their description and created a series of new โfalseโ foundations creating a false past. Taking it back to street art/Banksy as you did I guess it is like the Cargo tunnels on Rivington Street trying to restore Banksyโs early Rivington Street exhibition โ but failing and just re-painting it. The concept and reality would be flawed. I also think the premise of the serpentine is tired and dated but that is another discussion โ who could do it next year for example?? I would presume that the majority of people who will be buying this from this forum will be buying for Ai Weiweiโs named that of course is fine, his work typically stands up by itself. If you are going to frame this and put it on your wall I would like to know how you would describe it to people visiting your home.
theycallmesteven,
You dont happen to have any jobs going do you.?
Apart from the later explanations there are two video posts about the pavilion. Think looking at it most people would agree its a stunning piece of work. May be you should watch them. Johnny, Iโm an architect. Iโm more than well versed in the serpentine pavilions over the years, have watched the videos above, visited the pavilion and seen the print in person. My reason for asking my initial question to see what peopleโs opinions of the building was rather than the usual โI love itโ, โgetting it dropโ, โmissed outโ bollocks that normally populates threads. I wanted to start a discussion on an art forum which I think is fair enough - sorry if you thought I was wrong for doing so, the negative karmas Iโm getting show that some do. I think the project is brilliant theoretically but a let-down in reality and finish. The project was about revealing the original foundations of the previous serpentines which would then be used as this years. The reality was that when they started digging they found nothing so altered their description and created a series of new โfalseโ foundations creating a false past. Taking it back to street art/Banksy as you did I guess it is like the Cargo tunnels on Rivington Street trying to restore Banksyโs early Rivington Street exhibition โ but failing and just re-painting it. The concept and reality would be flawed. I also think the premise of the serpentine is tired and dated but that is another discussion โ who could do it next year for example?? I would presume that the majority of people who will be buying this from this forum will be buying for Ai Weiweiโs named that of course is fine, his work typically stands up by itself. If you are going to frame this and put it on your wall I would like to know how you would describe it to people visiting your home. theycallmesteven, You dont happen to have any jobs going do you.? |
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Herzog & de Meuron and Ai Weiwei Print, by johnnyh on Jul 5, 2012 14:42:30 GMT 1, TCMS reading your points and theirs it's not the same. As according to them and as architects they would have had plans, drawings and concepts what they have done is adapt to what was there and incorporate some of those things and whatever cable pipes, concrete was there.
So unlike Rivington they did not try to re create anything they just incorporated any thing that was there and adapted the Plan and used those foundations. I guarantee there were some sort of foundations there as there will be when this one leaves as no one would bother to dig them up when they had finnished.
Now not an Architect but do work for one of the largest exhibition companies in the world so have been involved in these types of structures. These structures always leave scars as no point taking them up. So I think that is the point they were making so not re creating anything more a case of re cyling rather than planting new ones
"These remnants testify to the existence of the former Pavilions and their more or less invasive intervention in the natural environment of the park."
I would describe it exactly how it is. These are samples of the architectural plans, sketches of the Serpentine pavilion put into a print by H & M & AWW. As not sure how else you would. Good architecture and especially that which involves Ai Wei Wei always has a strong artistic concept in it. Just look at the Birds Nest and the Jinjua Architecture Parkjust stunning beautiful objects or pieces. That's what seperated him from the architects and makes his colaborations so interesting in my view.
So yes signed and sealed for me. A piece I will be very happy to have in my collection.
No offense taken or meant. P.S no negging from me do not do it only do +++ to be fair though did not give you one of those either ;D ;D
TCMS reading your points and theirs it's not the same. As according to them and as architects they would have had plans, drawings and concepts what they have done is adapt to what was there and incorporate some of those things and whatever cable pipes, concrete was there.
So unlike Rivington they did not try to re create anything they just incorporated any thing that was there and adapted the Plan and used those foundations. I guarantee there were some sort of foundations there as there will be when this one leaves as no one would bother to dig them up when they had finnished.
Now not an Architect but do work for one of the largest exhibition companies in the world so have been involved in these types of structures. These structures always leave scars as no point taking them up. So I think that is the point they were making so not re creating anything more a case of re cyling rather than planting new ones
"These remnants testify to the existence of the former Pavilions and their more or less invasive intervention in the natural environment of the park."
I would describe it exactly how it is. These are samples of the architectural plans, sketches of the Serpentine pavilion put into a print by H & M & AWW. As not sure how else you would. Good architecture and especially that which involves Ai Wei Wei always has a strong artistic concept in it. Just look at the Birds Nest and the Jinjua Architecture Parkjust stunning beautiful objects or pieces. That's what seperated him from the architects and makes his colaborations so interesting in my view.
So yes signed and sealed for me. A piece I will be very happy to have in my collection.
No offense taken or meant. P.S no negging from me do not do it only do +++ to be fair though did not give you one of those either ;D ;D
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Herzog & de Meuron and Ai Weiwei Print, by highly framable on Aug 17, 2012 3:37:19 GMT 1, zhao asked @aiww
ai hasn't signed them yet.
we think it's still in transit somewhere...from our little experience, things can get very complicated when it comes to sending stuff to him and him sending things out. especially out of the country. he gets extra special treatment from the authorities...
follow him @aiww
google translate to get the gist.. it's fun!
zhao asked @aiww
ai hasn't signed them yet.
we think it's still in transit somewhere...from our little experience, things can get very complicated when it comes to sending stuff to him and him sending things out. especially out of the country. he gets extra special treatment from the authorities...
follow him @aiww
google translate to get the gist.. it's fun!
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Herzog & de Meuron and Ai Weiwei Print, by letiss on Aug 17, 2012 7:19:01 GMT 1, zhao asked @aiww ai hasn't signed them yet. we think it's still in transit somewhere...from our little experience, things can get very complicated when it comes to sending stuff to him and him sending things out. especially out of the country. he gets extra special treatment from the authorities... follow him @aiww google translate to get the gist.. it's fun!
Thanks for this. Still looking forward to the print, hopefully they'll be signed and sent back to the gallery soon. Would have probably have been quicker though if the gallery had used some of the local Serpentine migrating geese to do the couriering.
zhao asked @aiww ai hasn't signed them yet. we think it's still in transit somewhere...from our little experience, things can get very complicated when it comes to sending stuff to him and him sending things out. especially out of the country. he gets extra special treatment from the authorities... follow him @aiww google translate to get the gist.. it's fun! Thanks for this. Still looking forward to the print, hopefully they'll be signed and sent back to the gallery soon. Would have probably have been quicker though if the gallery had used some of the local Serpentine migrating geese to do the couriering. |
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Herzog & de Meuron and Ai Weiwei Print, by Dr Plip on Aug 17, 2012 10:12:19 GMT 1, I've been using Google Translate to follow him on Twitter. It's like reading obscure poetry. I'm not sure that Google is getting it, but I'll take its word for it.
"That suicide right RT _AT_ szeyan1220: "Global" Niubi: To destroy Japan, up to one month! "Cheat ghost go grab a Zhou Kehua, eight-year war., Chongqing Suxiang Hubei and Guizhou coordination, Governor array of the Ministry of Public Security, 540million reward, 40,000 police, 117 armed police search dogs, 419 inspections of vehicles, 289 armed checkpoints, focusing on inventory 79,000 times ... dogs are exhausted, only a nameless corpse"
I've been using Google Translate to follow him on Twitter. It's like reading obscure poetry. I'm not sure that Google is getting it, but I'll take its word for it.
"That suicide right RT _AT_ szeyan1220: "Global" Niubi: To destroy Japan, up to one month! "Cheat ghost go grab a Zhou Kehua, eight-year war., Chongqing Suxiang Hubei and Guizhou coordination, Governor array of the Ministry of Public Security, 540million reward, 40,000 police, 117 armed police search dogs, 419 inspections of vehicles, 289 armed checkpoints, focusing on inventory 79,000 times ... dogs are exhausted, only a nameless corpse"
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Herzog & de Meuron and Ai Weiwei Print, by highly framable on Aug 17, 2012 10:45:05 GMT 1, and the latest....
Send pointing touch template la la la! To win we must: 1 - Watch @ aiww 2. RT this push! There are three sent three RT! 18/8 night announced the winners! Ai is God. Chiu is a boring person. La la la!
;D
and the latest.... Send pointing touch template la la la! To win we must: 1 - Watch @ aiww 2. RT this push! There are three sent three RT! 18/8 night announced the winners! Ai is God. Chiu is a boring person. La la la! ;D |
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Herzog & de Meuron and Ai Weiwei Print, by nah on Sept 2, 2012 1:11:59 GMT 1, any updates with this print? email said end of august but not heard anything
any updates with this print? email said end of august but not heard anything
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Herzog & de Meuron and Ai Weiwei Print, by Greekboy on Sept 2, 2012 1:34:44 GMT 1, Ai just tweeted that they haven't been signed yet.
Ai just tweeted that they haven't been signed yet.
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Herzog & de Meuron and Ai Weiwei Print, by nah on Sept 2, 2012 17:12:11 GMT 1, ahh okay. still quite a wait to go then.
ahh okay. still quite a wait to go then.
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