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POW invaders now available, by Cedric Mnich on Mar 28, 2013 10:59:43 GMT 1, I hate that feeling that there are always insiders... How many prints really go for sale online and how many are already pre-sold ? How come some people know about these Gold/Silver prints ?
I hate that feeling that there are always insiders... How many prints really go for sale online and how many are already pre-sold ? How come some people know about these Gold/Silver prints ?
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POW invaders now available, by chrispa on Mar 28, 2013 11:10:01 GMT 1,
Looking at sweetcorns tagline "http://sweetcorn.bigcartel.com/" , this is surely a case of pot and kettle...
Looking at sweetcorns tagline "http://sweetcorn.bigcartel.com/" , this is surely a case of pot and kettle... |
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POW invaders now available, by Deleted on Mar 28, 2013 11:38:58 GMT 1, Same story with the 3D print, no ??
Anyway, if any has one at cost or slightly above cost, PM me
Same story with the 3D print, no ??
Anyway, if any has one at cost or slightly above cost, PM me
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POW invaders now available, by Sweetcorn on Mar 28, 2013 12:21:57 GMT 1, Looking at sweetcorns tagline "http://sweetcorn.bigcartel.com/" , this is surely a case of pot and kettle...
Looking at sweetcorns tagline "http://sweetcorn.bigcartel.com/" , this is surely a case of pot and kettle... I dont have much available on my site at the moment so listed any unframed prints I have at the price I would let go to Joe public, If I see a forum member is in search of I will try to help out see here - urbanartassociation.com/post/1054004/thread |
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POW invaders now available, by Sweetcorn on Mar 28, 2013 12:39:34 GMT 1, Incorrect sweetcorn, I'd take offense but I know little about you. 
Incorrect sweetcorn, I'd take offense but I know little about you. Denying it only makes it 10 times worse, That makes you a liar too |
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POW invaders now available, by Sweetcorn on Mar 28, 2013 12:45:53 GMT 1, Thats not my point here though ling.
Thats not my point here though ling.
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POW invaders now available, by Rsyok on Mar 28, 2013 20:41:11 GMT 1, Incorrect sweetcorn, I'd take offense but I know little about you. Denying it only makes it 10 times worse, That makes you a liar too
Im mature enough to admit if I was selling it thanks.
I posted the first pic of the print to show those interested there is no need to hype this edition.
Have a great Easter.
Incorrect sweetcorn, I'd take offense but I know little about you. Denying it only makes it 10 times worse, That makes you a liar too Worse for who ? I'm happy with the print in my Invader collection and that I am not lying. Im mature enough to admit if I was selling it thanks. I posted the first pic of the print to show those interested there is no need to hype this edition. Have a great Easter. |
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POW invaders now available, by jeromeetjess on Mar 28, 2013 21:22:26 GMT 1, It is not the best invader piece for me but for an invader collector it is (or they are because there are 2 prints) a must to own! Invader prints by POW are just awesome with the embossed process that realy looks like tiles!
It is not the best invader piece for me but for an invader collector it is (or they are because there are 2 prints) a must to own! Invader prints by POW are just awesome with the embossed process that realy looks like tiles!
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POW invaders now available, by greensdesign on Mar 29, 2013 5:02:40 GMT 1, I am still looking, as well, for one of these. Funds ready for anyone looking to sell. Please pm me!!
I am still looking, as well, for one of these. Funds ready for anyone looking to sell. Please pm me!!
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POW invaders now available, by Pistol on Mar 29, 2013 8:40:40 GMT 1, Looking for a silver if anyone has one available, pm me if you have one for sale, details will go no further!
Looking for a silver if anyone has one available, pm me if you have one for sale, details will go no further!
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POW invaders now available, by naughtyshorty on Mar 29, 2013 12:18:39 GMT 1, Personally I don't think there is anything wrong with a VIP list. All it is is genuine collectors who pow know won't do a flip. How many of the red cyw have u ever seen sold or the gold or white cyw for that matter, or the nola APs. I doubt you'll see many silver or gold invaders for sale and to be honest that's the way it should be. I'd rather they went to genuine collectors than some wrong'un made £££ by flipping them along to someone
Personally I don't think there is anything wrong with a VIP list. All it is is genuine collectors who pow know won't do a flip. How many of the red cyw have u ever seen sold or the gold or white cyw for that matter, or the nola APs. I doubt you'll see many silver or gold invaders for sale and to be honest that's the way it should be. I'd rather they went to genuine collectors than some wrong'un made £££ by flipping them along to someone
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POW invaders now available, by chaturz on Mar 29, 2013 12:30:01 GMT 1, Personally I don't think there is anything wrong with a VIP list. All it is is genuine collectors who pow know won't do a flip. How many of the red cyw have u ever seen sold or the gold or white cyw for that matter, or the nola APs. I doubt you'll see many silver or gold invaders for sale and to be honest that's the way it should be. I'd rather they went to genuine collectors than some wrong'un made £££ by flipping them along to someone
Also these systems stop newer fans getting in and purchasing items at the base level, and largely only benefit "art investors". That being said its their product and they can sell it how they wish, just a shame I wont get one 
Personally I don't think there is anything wrong with a VIP list. All it is is genuine collectors who pow know won't do a flip. How many of the red cyw have u ever seen sold or the gold or white cyw for that matter, or the nola APs. I doubt you'll see many silver or gold invaders for sale and to be honest that's the way it should be. I'd rather they went to genuine collectors than some wrong'un made £££ by flipping them along to someone I understand your point however I disagree. VIP lists at places like POW have nothing to do with genuine collectors unlike artists who sometimes vet the clients before selling original work. The galleries dont know the "VIPs" on a personal basis in general, they are just a group of people who either a) have been buying for years or b) have spent large sums of cash. This does not stop flipping, and all fliping does not go on on ebay and this forum alone (though there is currently a red CYW on fleabay). There are people selling the prints you speak of, they just don't advertise openly, you have to ask around and know people within the networks to either find the work or spread the word. Also these systems stop newer fans getting in and purchasing items at the base level, and largely only benefit "art investors". That being said its their product and they can sell it how they wish, just a shame I wont get one |
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POW invaders now available, by iamzero on Mar 29, 2013 12:58:28 GMT 1, Hit nail head. Dude.
Hit nail head. Dude.
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POW invaders now available, by Deleted on Mar 29, 2013 15:00:57 GMT 1, the gold is delicious, yum yum
the gold is delicious, yum yum
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POW invaders now available, by eschiff on Mar 29, 2013 16:37:37 GMT 1, Personally I don't think there is anything wrong with a VIP list. All it is is genuine collectors who pow know won't do a flip. How many of the red cyw have u ever seen sold or the gold or white cyw for that matter, or the nola APs. I doubt you'll see many silver or gold invaders for sale and to be honest that's the way it should be. I'd rather they went to genuine collectors than some wrong'un made £££ by flipping them along to someone I understand your point however I disagree. VIP lists at places like POW have nothing to do with genuine collectors unlike artists who sometimes vet the clients before selling original work. The galleries dont know the "VIPs" on a personal basis in general, they are just a group of people who either a) have been buying for years or b) have spent large sums of cash. This does not stop flipping, and all fliping does not go on on ebay and this forum alone (though there is currently a red CYW on fleabay). There are people selling the prints you speak of, they just don't advertise openly, you have to ask around and know people within the networks to either find the work or spread the word. Also these systems stop newer fans getting in and purchasing items at the base level, and largely only benefit "art investors". That being said its their product and they can sell it how they wish, just a shame I wont get one
There were two editions available for new fans at base level. The VIP prints were more expensive. Not sure i understand your point.
Personally I don't think there is anything wrong with a VIP list. All it is is genuine collectors who pow know won't do a flip. How many of the red cyw have u ever seen sold or the gold or white cyw for that matter, or the nola APs. I doubt you'll see many silver or gold invaders for sale and to be honest that's the way it should be. I'd rather they went to genuine collectors than some wrong'un made £££ by flipping them along to someone I understand your point however I disagree. VIP lists at places like POW have nothing to do with genuine collectors unlike artists who sometimes vet the clients before selling original work. The galleries dont know the "VIPs" on a personal basis in general, they are just a group of people who either a) have been buying for years or b) have spent large sums of cash. This does not stop flipping, and all fliping does not go on on ebay and this forum alone (though there is currently a red CYW on fleabay). There are people selling the prints you speak of, they just don't advertise openly, you have to ask around and know people within the networks to either find the work or spread the word. Also these systems stop newer fans getting in and purchasing items at the base level, and largely only benefit "art investors". That being said its their product and they can sell it how they wish, just a shame I wont get one There were two editions available for new fans at base level. The VIP prints were more expensive. Not sure i understand your point. |
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POW invaders now available, by chaturz on Mar 29, 2013 17:02:53 GMT 1, I understand your point however I disagree. VIP lists at places like POW have nothing to do with genuine collectors unlike artists who sometimes vet the clients before selling original work. The galleries dont know the "VIPs" on a personal basis in general, they are just a group of people who either a) have been buying for years or b) have spent large sums of cash. This does not stop flipping, and all fliping does not go on on ebay and this forum alone (though there is currently a red CYW on fleabay). There are people selling the prints you speak of, they just don't advertise openly, you have to ask around and know people within the networks to either find the work or spread the word. Also these systems stop newer fans getting in and purchasing items at the base level, and largely only benefit "art investors". That being said its their product and they can sell it how they wish, just a shame I wont get one There were two editions available for new fans at base level. The VIP prints were more expensive. Not sure i understand your point.
As stated a "better / higher quality" (depending on how you view shiny foil) version is potentially out there. In order to get this you have to be either a long time purchaser or have spent a lot of cash as this is what often constitutes "VIP". As stated these so called VIPs are no less likely to be individuals who flip so why not make it a fair open market via online / queue / or lottery release.
I cant break it down any more than that. And as I stated though I dont agree with POW or any other galleries choice to practice in this way I did mention it is a print they have produced and at the end of the day they can distribute it in any manner they wish.
Right I need to sort out my anger management now, my fuse seems to be getting shorter by the second
I understand your point however I disagree. VIP lists at places like POW have nothing to do with genuine collectors unlike artists who sometimes vet the clients before selling original work. The galleries dont know the "VIPs" on a personal basis in general, they are just a group of people who either a) have been buying for years or b) have spent large sums of cash. This does not stop flipping, and all fliping does not go on on ebay and this forum alone (though there is currently a red CYW on fleabay). There are people selling the prints you speak of, they just don't advertise openly, you have to ask around and know people within the networks to either find the work or spread the word. Also these systems stop newer fans getting in and purchasing items at the base level, and largely only benefit "art investors". That being said its their product and they can sell it how they wish, just a shame I wont get one There were two editions available for new fans at base level. The VIP prints were more expensive. Not sure i understand your point. Hmmm I feel the point is self explanatory and am not sure what youre getting at as I dont understand how the expense of the VIP version has anything to do with the issue (unless ofcourse you only read the last line of what I said and didnt read the comment I was responding to either). As stated a "better / higher quality" (depending on how you view shiny foil) version is potentially out there. In order to get this you have to be either a long time purchaser or have spent a lot of cash as this is what often constitutes "VIP". As stated these so called VIPs are no less likely to be individuals who flip so why not make it a fair open market via online / queue / or lottery release. I cant break it down any more than that. And as I stated though I dont agree with POW or any other galleries choice to practice in this way I did mention it is a print they have produced and at the end of the day they can distribute it in any manner they wish. Right I need to sort out my anger management now, my fuse seems to be getting shorter by the second |
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POW invaders now available, by eschiff on Mar 29, 2013 17:13:04 GMT 1, You said it prevents fans getting in at base level. They released two editions that were priced at base level. That's what I don't understand. In fact it's a fairly easy argument to say that what they did pleases the most amount of people. Those who want in at the base level as you say and those customers they value and know well. Everyone wins.
You said it prevents fans getting in at base level. They released two editions that were priced at base level. That's what I don't understand. In fact it's a fairly easy argument to say that what they did pleases the most amount of people. Those who want in at the base level as you say and those customers they value and know well. Everyone wins.
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POW invaders now available, by rottenredrooster on Mar 29, 2013 18:09:11 GMT 1, Just make everything VIP.
Just make everything VIP.
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POW invaders now available, by chaturz on Mar 29, 2013 19:44:25 GMT 1, You said it prevents fans getting in at base level. They released two editions that were priced at base level. That's what I don't understand. In fact it's a fairly easy argument to say that what they did pleases the most amount of people. Those who want in at the base level as you say and those customers they value and know well. Everyone wins.
You said it prevents fans getting in at base level. They released two editions that were priced at base level. That's what I don't understand. In fact it's a fairly easy argument to say that what they did pleases the most amount of people. Those who want in at the base level as you say and those customers they value and know well. Everyone wins. Right at the risk of sounding patronising just read the full comments in order and try not to focus on one line (you are clearly focussing on half a lines info and not placing it into context)! Other than saying that I'm out, if I say any more I'll just be rude and dismissive. |
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POW invaders now available, by naughtyshorty on Mar 29, 2013 20:15:05 GMT 1, I hear you, and see where you're coming from, but I do think VIPs are less likely to flip- not least because if u flip ull be off that VIP list pretty damn quick.
It also partly depends on your definition of flipping? Buying to sell in a day/ week / month / year? At what point does investing turn to flipping?
I hear you, and see where you're coming from, but I do think VIPs are less likely to flip- not least because if u flip ull be off that VIP list pretty damn quick.
It also partly depends on your definition of flipping? Buying to sell in a day/ week / month / year? At what point does investing turn to flipping?
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POW invaders now available, by chaturz on Mar 29, 2013 20:41:33 GMT 1, I hear you, and see where you're coming from, but I do think VIPs are less likely to flip- not least because if u flip ull be off that VIP list pretty damn quick. It also partly depends on your definition of flipping? Buying to sell in a day/ week / month / year? At what point does investing turn to flipping?
I hear you, and see where you're coming from, but I do think VIPs are less likely to flip- not least because if u flip ull be off that VIP list pretty damn quick. It also partly depends on your definition of flipping? Buying to sell in a day/ week / month / year? At what point does investing turn to flipping? Fair enough, but with regards to investment you could argue buying for investment would be the definition of flipping as youre buying with the intention to sell and make cashish. Just a point of view amigo. Not that I have any issues with people who buy for investment as if I had spare cash I would rather invest in art than a savings account lol |
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POW invaders now available, by eschiff on Mar 30, 2013 2:56:49 GMT 1, You said it prevents fans getting in at base level. They released two editions that were priced at base level. That's what I don't understand. In fact it's a fairly easy argument to say that what they did pleases the most amount of people. Those who want in at the base level as you say and those customers they value and know well. Everyone wins. Right at the risk of sounding patronising just read the full comments in order and try not to focus on one line (you are clearly focussing on half a lines info and not placing it into context)! Other than saying that I'm out, if I say any more I'll just be rude and dismissive.
Don't worry about my feelings fella. I understand you're just upset because you didn't get the print to flip you wanted.
You said it prevents fans getting in at base level. They released two editions that were priced at base level. That's what I don't understand. In fact it's a fairly easy argument to say that what they did pleases the most amount of people. Those who want in at the base level as you say and those customers they value and know well. Everyone wins. Right at the risk of sounding patronising just read the full comments in order and try not to focus on one line (you are clearly focussing on half a lines info and not placing it into context)! Other than saying that I'm out, if I say any more I'll just be rude and dismissive. Don't worry about my feelings fella. I understand you're just upset because you didn't get the print to flip you wanted. |
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POW invaders now available, by love on Mar 30, 2013 3:04:48 GMT 1, Just make everything VIP.
Just make everything VIP. First make me VIP. |
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POW invaders now available, by chaturz on Mar 30, 2013 9:55:01 GMT 1, Right at the risk of sounding patronising just read the full comments in order and try not to focus on one line (you are clearly focussing on half a lines info and not placing it into context)! Other than saying that I'm out, if I say any more I'll just be rude and dismissive. Don't worry about my feelings fella. I understand you're just upset because you didn't get the print to flip you wanted.
Right at the risk of sounding patronising just read the full comments in order and try not to focus on one line (you are clearly focussing on half a lines info and not placing it into context)! Other than saying that I'm out, if I say any more I'll just be rude and dismissive. Don't worry about my feelings fella. I understand you're just upset because you didn't get the print to flip you wanted. Lol sure mate whatever keeps you warm at night! Yet again you're are proving your lack of literacy and comprehension skills, personally I blame the school! Secondly I would get annoyed but you don't know me so hey treat yourself mate say whatever you wish. |
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POW invaders now available, by letiss on Mar 30, 2013 10:16:15 GMT 1, If I was at the level of buying o.gs from a place like POW, I'd expect not to have to slog it out f5ing. So, I have no problem with VIP lists. These big buyers are the ones that keep many a gallery going, so of course they'll be treated well.
eschiff, your comments about Chaturz being a flipper are ridiculous.
If I was at the level of buying o.gs from a place like POW, I'd expect not to have to slog it out f5ing. So, I have no problem with VIP lists. These big buyers are the ones that keep many a gallery going, so of course they'll be treated well.
eschiff, your comments about Chaturz being a flipper are ridiculous.
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POW invaders now available, by Hubble Bubble on Mar 30, 2013 10:20:39 GMT 1, I have never thought of chaturz of being a flipper, I have to say.
I have never thought of chaturz of being a flipper, I have to say.
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POW invaders now available, by chaturz on Mar 30, 2013 10:23:41 GMT 1, If I was at the level of buying o.gs from a place like POW, I'd expect not to have to slog it out f5ing. So, I have no problem with VIP lists. These big buyers are the ones that keep many a gallery going, so of course they'll be treated well. eschiff, your comments about Chaturz being a flipper are ridiculous.
After posting my response that eschiff clearly doesn't know me I realised I too am in the wrong as I don't know him either so have sent a pm offering to bury the hatchet as Im sure away from these computers we are both mature adults. Its just sometimes debate can get heated and the general misunderstanding of textual conversations occur.
+ Im just frustrated as I want too eat my easter egg and not wait till sunday! 
EDIT thanks aswell Hubble!
If I was at the level of buying o.gs from a place like POW, I'd expect not to have to slog it out f5ing. So, I have no problem with VIP lists. These big buyers are the ones that keep many a gallery going, so of course they'll be treated well. eschiff, your comments about Chaturz being a flipper are ridiculous. Thanks for your comment letiss its much appreciated, and I suppose I see your point of view re: VIPs. After posting my response that eschiff clearly doesn't know me I realised I too am in the wrong as I don't know him either so have sent a pm offering to bury the hatchet as Im sure away from these computers we are both mature adults. Its just sometimes debate can get heated and the general misunderstanding of textual conversations occur. + Im just frustrated as I want too eat my easter egg and not wait till sunday! EDIT thanks aswell Hubble! |
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POW invaders now available, by fingerz on Mar 30, 2013 10:38:19 GMT 1, i did hear Chaturz flipped a coin once , eat the egg no one will know ...
i did hear Chaturz flipped a coin once , eat the egg no one will know ... |
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POW invaders now available, by Deleted on Mar 30, 2013 10:59:41 GMT 1, Personally I don't think there is anything wrong with a VIP list. All it is is genuine collectors who pow know won't do a flip. How many of the red cyw have u ever seen sold or the gold or white cyw for that matter, or the nola APs. I doubt you'll see many silver or gold invaders for sale and to be honest that's the way it should be. I'd rather they went to genuine collectors than some wrong'un made £££ by flipping them along to someone I understand your point however I disagree. VIP lists at places like POW have nothing to do with genuine collectors unlike artists who sometimes vet the clients before selling original work. The galleries dont know the "VIPs" on a personal basis in general, they are just a group of people who either a) have been buying for years or b) have spent large sums of cash. This does not stop flipping, and all fliping does not go on on ebay and this forum alone (though there is currently a red CYW on fleabay). There are people selling the prints you speak of, they just don't advertise openly, you have to ask around and know people within the networks to either find the work or spread the word. Also these systems stop newer fans getting in and purchasing items at the base level, and largely only benefit "art investors". That being said its their product and they can sell it how they wish, just a shame I wont get one
It's got to be said across your posts theres a bunch of assumptions I could correct with the truth, there's some odd definitions , but mainly there's just envy which has loaded your judgement.
Personally I don't think there is anything wrong with a VIP list. All it is is genuine collectors who pow know won't do a flip. How many of the red cyw have u ever seen sold or the gold or white cyw for that matter, or the nola APs. I doubt you'll see many silver or gold invaders for sale and to be honest that's the way it should be. I'd rather they went to genuine collectors than some wrong'un made £££ by flipping them along to someone I understand your point however I disagree. VIP lists at places like POW have nothing to do with genuine collectors unlike artists who sometimes vet the clients before selling original work. The galleries dont know the "VIPs" on a personal basis in general, they are just a group of people who either a) have been buying for years or b) have spent large sums of cash. This does not stop flipping, and all fliping does not go on on ebay and this forum alone (though there is currently a red CYW on fleabay). There are people selling the prints you speak of, they just don't advertise openly, you have to ask around and know people within the networks to either find the work or spread the word. Also these systems stop newer fans getting in and purchasing items at the base level, and largely only benefit "art investors". That being said its their product and they can sell it how they wish, just a shame I wont get one It's got to be said across your posts theres a bunch of assumptions I could correct with the truth, there's some odd definitions , but mainly there's just envy which has loaded your judgement. |
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POW invaders now available, by eschiff on Mar 30, 2013 11:43:28 GMT 1, I don't know you and don't think the accusation of flipper is as bad as some people here apparently do! I certainly have sold plenty of prints which has allowed me to grow my collection.
DD probably phrased my point better than I did. Apologise for any hurt feelings and appreciate the PM you sent.
I don't know you and don't think the accusation of flipper is as bad as some people here apparently do! I certainly have sold plenty of prints which has allowed me to grow my collection.
DD probably phrased my point better than I did. Apologise for any hurt feelings and appreciate the PM you sent.
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