iamzero
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New phlegm print coming soon, by iamzero on Apr 4, 2013 10:50:43 GMT 1, you may also consider that other people (living in a different part of the world) were finally happy to have a release at a descent time...
Ahhh you may be referring to the pr1ck from America that has his on eBay right now?
you may also consider that other people (living in a different part of the world) were finally happy to have a release at a descent time... Ahhh you may be referring to the pr1ck from America that has his on eBay right now?
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wentos
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New phlegm print coming soon, by wentos on Apr 4, 2013 10:57:50 GMT 1, I'm a fan of Phlegms and luckily was off in the morning, I sat in front of a computer F5'ing every second for about 25mins, luckily I managed to cart one and all paid up. Its the first time I've managed to get a print on release from him, I'm always missing Keyes releases but won't give up.
There is nowt a gallery or artist can do...you will always upset people if its a random drop, if its a lottery or if there is a time specified. These will always end up on ebay sooner or later as every print release has done in history, whether its before its been posted or after.
I'm a fan of Phlegms and luckily was off in the morning, I sat in front of a computer F5'ing every second for about 25mins, luckily I managed to cart one and all paid up. Its the first time I've managed to get a print on release from him, I'm always missing Keyes releases but won't give up.
There is nowt a gallery or artist can do...you will always upset people if its a random drop, if its a lottery or if there is a time specified. These will always end up on ebay sooner or later as every print release has done in history, whether its before its been posted or after.
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iamzero
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New phlegm print coming soon, by iamzero on Apr 4, 2013 11:06:22 GMT 1, Agreed dude and you persistence paid off so congratulations. I was more than happy to not big mention it until the post about moaners.
Agreed dude and you persistence paid off so congratulations. I was more than happy to not big mention it until the post about moaners.
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wentos
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February 2011
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New phlegm print coming soon, by wentos on Apr 4, 2013 11:17:44 GMT 1, having said that...I agree 100% it annoys the hell out of me to miss a print I really want to then see 10 on eBay...may those people drink the juice of the devil in hell.
having said that...I agree 100% it annoys the hell out of me to miss a print I really want to then see 10 on eBay...may those people drink the juice of the devil in hell.
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sakyamuni
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New phlegm print coming soon, by sakyamuni on Apr 4, 2013 11:47:11 GMT 1, It seems that Phlegm is joining the long list of new artists whose prints are nearly impossible to get at a reasonable price. It is easier to get a print from established artists like Swoon or Adam Neate and many other than any printed material with Phlegm or Stik signature on it. I am not really sure that makes much sense… However, I don’t think it is Phlegm or Stik fault, this is just most of us who create and maintain this market, completely irrational. I enjoyed buying Phlegm/Stik prints, things were easy, prices cheap, quality quite high. Things have changed now; I guess I won’t be able to buy a print from them anymore. I am not really trying now. I could complain but in the end I just don’t care. I won’t spend hundreds of pounds to get a print from these artists, and if I decide one day to spend that much of money that will be for an original. Prints are a good entry point, but after some time you just realize you have too many of them, that they lack this intimate connection with the artist’s work, and that they are not worth fighting for… Let’s move on !
It seems that Phlegm is joining the long list of new artists whose prints are nearly impossible to get at a reasonable price. It is easier to get a print from established artists like Swoon or Adam Neate and many other than any printed material with Phlegm or Stik signature on it. I am not really sure that makes much sense… However, I don’t think it is Phlegm or Stik fault, this is just most of us who create and maintain this market, completely irrational. I enjoyed buying Phlegm/Stik prints, things were easy, prices cheap, quality quite high. Things have changed now; I guess I won’t be able to buy a print from them anymore. I am not really trying now. I could complain but in the end I just don’t care. I won’t spend hundreds of pounds to get a print from these artists, and if I decide one day to spend that much of money that will be for an original. Prints are a good entry point, but after some time you just realize you have too many of them, that they lack this intimate connection with the artist’s work, and that they are not worth fighting for… Let’s move on !
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wentos
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February 2011
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New phlegm print coming soon, by wentos on Apr 4, 2013 12:00:14 GMT 1, Some people can't afford to spend hundreds of pounds for prints on the secondary market or originals from these artists, that's why getting them at cost on release is so important and frustrating.
Some people can't afford to spend hundreds of pounds for prints on the secondary market or originals from these artists, that's why getting them at cost on release is so important and frustrating.
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New phlegm print coming soon, by Someones Brain on Apr 4, 2013 13:03:14 GMT 1, There is nowt a gallery or artist can do...you will always upset people if its a random drop, if its a lottery or if there is a time specified. Well, you could raise the edition or make popular images a timed edition. Phlegm wanted to earn some coins for the book project with that last release. Why not do a higher volume edition for that reason? It's only a one color screen print - not that complicated. I assume no one would have called him names if he did so. Just to be clear: I do not say it's any artist's fault that some of us collectors miss out at print releases or that there are flippers who immediately try to make some money after a release. But there are some options to release an image as a print that could make more people - at least those who really like the image and aren't in it for the money - happy.
There is nowt a gallery or artist can do...you will always upset people if its a random drop, if its a lottery or if there is a time specified. Well, you could raise the edition or make popular images a timed edition. Phlegm wanted to earn some coins for the book project with that last release. Why not do a higher volume edition for that reason? It's only a one color screen print - not that complicated. I assume no one would have called him names if he did so. Just to be clear: I do not say it's any artist's fault that some of us collectors miss out at print releases or that there are flippers who immediately try to make some money after a release. But there are some options to release an image as a print that could make more people - at least those who really like the image and aren't in it for the money - happy.
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Billy Sport
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New phlegm print coming soon, by Billy Sport on Apr 4, 2013 23:21:20 GMT 1, few on the bay now, see there was one linked to a big cartel? how does that work? be surprised if ebay didnt pull it.
few on the bay now, see there was one linked to a big cartel? how does that work? be surprised if ebay didnt pull it.
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sohohoho
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April 2011
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New phlegm print coming soon, by sohohoho on Apr 5, 2013 1:56:46 GMT 1, few on the bay now, see there was one linked to a big cartel? how does that work? be surprised if ebay didnt pull it. I did see that auction yesterday but it has since disappeared. I've just found the bigcartel link in my history though and the print still seems to be available. Wonder if it's legit walkerempire.bigcartel.com/
few on the bay now, see there was one linked to a big cartel? how does that work? be surprised if ebay didnt pull it. I did see that auction yesterday but it has since disappeared. I've just found the bigcartel link in my history though and the print still seems to be available. Wonder if it's legit walkerempire.bigcartel.com/
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plush
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November 2011
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New phlegm print coming soon, by plush on Apr 5, 2013 2:36:03 GMT 1, If so many like it, then why not buy it for $500 or $600. There are many other prints I (we) buy that cost that much to start with. The last 2 CBaker prints I bought were more than that. I think people get caught up on what it initially cost. Maybe Phlegm should start making his stuff $500/$600. Would they then flip for $1300?
If so many like it, then why not buy it for $500 or $600. There are many other prints I (we) buy that cost that much to start with. The last 2 CBaker prints I bought were more than that. I think people get caught up on what it initially cost. Maybe Phlegm should start making his stuff $500/$600. Would they then flip for $1300?
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sfinks
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December 2011
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New phlegm print coming soon, by sfinks on Apr 5, 2013 6:52:20 GMT 1, What i dont get is on his last release, he said he was stunned over the massive interesst around the print, and he was afraid not to sell out. What was diffenrent this time? But this person is not a print person, to me he is a wall painter. Will buy his book when it comes. But thats all that is possible to get from him too.
What i dont get is on his last release, he said he was stunned over the massive interesst around the print, and he was afraid not to sell out. What was diffenrent this time? But this person is not a print person, to me he is a wall painter. Will buy his book when it comes. But thats all that is possible to get from him too.
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nipper
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New phlegm print coming soon, by nipper on Apr 5, 2013 9:12:40 GMT 1, Damn right I'm complaining. I lost an hour of my day on the the roof of a building site in the freezing cold trying to get the best 3G signal I could on my iPhone refreshing like mad. Only to lose out to a set of w4nker5 that that have put theirs straight on eBay for stupid money. How about releasing prints when a majority of people have finished work, we don't all sit at computers for a living you know. I'd love some of those orders on eBay to be cancelled like Penny has done previously, the locations are on there so it can't be that difficult. If you're reading this sweet shop and hate the flippers as much as you claim in a message I received from you then there's your chance to prove it. But just think, you can put that money towards a Half Pint now....
Damn right I'm complaining. I lost an hour of my day on the the roof of a building site in the freezing cold trying to get the best 3G signal I could on my iPhone refreshing like mad. Only to lose out to a set of w4nker5 that that have put theirs straight on eBay for stupid money. How about releasing prints when a majority of people have finished work, we don't all sit at computers for a living you know. I'd love some of those orders on eBay to be cancelled like Penny has done previously, the locations are on there so it can't be that difficult. If you're reading this sweet shop and hate the flippers as much as you claim in a message I received from you then there's your chance to prove it. But just think, you can put that money towards a Half Pint now....
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DrWhite
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New phlegm print coming soon, by DrWhite on Apr 5, 2013 9:23:35 GMT 1, Damn right I'm complaining. I lost an hour of my day on the the roof of a building site in the freezing cold trying to get the best 3G signal I could on my iPhone refreshing like mad. Only to lose out to a set of w4nker5 that that have put theirs straight on eBay for stupid money. How about releasing prints when a majority of people have finished work, we don't all sit at computers for a living you know. I'd love some of those orders on eBay to be cancelled like Penny has done previously, the locations are on there so it can't be that difficult. If you're reading this sweet shop and hate the flippers as much as you claim in a message I received from you then there's your chance to prove it. But just think, you can put that money towards a Half Pint now....
Yeah zero put it towards a half pint - absolute classic by baker.
Damn right I'm complaining. I lost an hour of my day on the the roof of a building site in the freezing cold trying to get the best 3G signal I could on my iPhone refreshing like mad. Only to lose out to a set of w4nker5 that that have put theirs straight on eBay for stupid money. How about releasing prints when a majority of people have finished work, we don't all sit at computers for a living you know. I'd love some of those orders on eBay to be cancelled like Penny has done previously, the locations are on there so it can't be that difficult. If you're reading this sweet shop and hate the flippers as much as you claim in a message I received from you then there's your chance to prove it. But just think, you can put that money towards a Half Pint now.... Yeah zero put it towards a half pint - absolute classic by baker.
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bankside
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New phlegm print coming soon, by bankside on Apr 5, 2013 10:35:42 GMT 1, What i dont get is on his last release, he said he was stunned over the massive interesst around the print, and he was afraid not to sell out. What was diffenrent this time? But this person is not a print person, to me he is a wall painter. Will buy his book when it comes. But thats all that is possible to get from him too.
Phlegms not in it for the money and fame and as for the 100 only print release it was only to help fund his book ,soon to be released
What i dont get is on his last release, he said he was stunned over the massive interesst around the print, and he was afraid not to sell out. What was diffenrent this time? But this person is not a print person, to me he is a wall painter. Will buy his book when it comes. But thats all that is possible to get from him too. Phlegms not in it for the money and fame and as for the 100 only print release it was only to help fund his book ,soon to be released
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sfinks
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New phlegm print coming soon, by sfinks on Apr 5, 2013 11:30:39 GMT 1, Looking forward to that. Will for sure be one of the best books this year.
Looking forward to that. Will for sure be one of the best books this year.
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barryh
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New phlegm print coming soon, by barryh on Apr 5, 2013 11:49:42 GMT 1, If so many like it, then why not buy it for $500 or $600. There are many other prints I (we) buy that cost that much to start with. The last 2 CBaker prints I bought were more than that. I think people get caught up on what it initially cost. Maybe Phlegm should start making his stuff $500/$600. Would they then flip for $1300?
That is called a bubble and the #1 way to ruin your collector base. I think some people just need to grow up and remember all this fuss is about missing out on a piece of Art, not lifesaving surgery.
If so many like it, then why not buy it for $500 or $600. There are many other prints I (we) buy that cost that much to start with. The last 2 CBaker prints I bought were more than that. I think people get caught up on what it initially cost. Maybe Phlegm should start making his stuff $500/$600. Would they then flip for $1300? That is called a bubble and the #1 way to ruin your collector base. I think some people just need to grow up and remember all this fuss is about missing out on a piece of Art, not lifesaving surgery.
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iamzero
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New phlegm print coming soon, by iamzero on Apr 5, 2013 13:47:45 GMT 1, I was gonna flip it and put the money to a half pint. Hehe.
If I could find a gold half pint for reasonable money I'm in. So want one.
I was gonna flip it and put the money to a half pint. Hehe.
If I could find a gold half pint for reasonable money I'm in. So want one.
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New phlegm print coming soon, by heathunter881 on Apr 6, 2013 1:07:26 GMT 1, Who's hungry? I got food for you! It's not limited but it'll save your life.
Who's hungry? I got food for you! It's not limited but it'll save your life.
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plush
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November 2011
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New phlegm print coming soon, by plush on Apr 6, 2013 3:13:56 GMT 1, Who's hungry? I got food for you! It's not limited but it'll save your life. You still ripping people off?
Who's hungry? I got food for you! It's not limited but it'll save your life. You still ripping people off?
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New phlegm print coming soon, by heathunter881 on Apr 6, 2013 3:49:40 GMT 1, No need I have bots lol. I have a list of targets so don't trip it ain't over.
No need I have bots lol. I have a list of targets so don't trip it ain't over.
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sohohoho
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New phlegm print coming soon, by sohohoho on Apr 10, 2013 14:10:58 GMT 1, Mine arrived today. It's a beauty! I wasn't expecting the paper to be so thick compared to Civilisation. I wish more prints were produced with dimensions similar to this. They're all so big these days!
Mine arrived today. It's a beauty! I wasn't expecting the paper to be so thick compared to Civilisation. I wish more prints were produced with dimensions similar to this. They're all so big these days!
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alittle
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New phlegm print coming soon, by alittle on Apr 10, 2013 14:37:11 GMT 1, Post some photos!
Post some photos!
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jettad
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New phlegm print coming soon, by jettad on Apr 10, 2013 16:41:05 GMT 1, Mine arrived today. It's a beauty! Yes, please post pictures.
Mine arrived today. It's a beauty! Yes, please post pictures.
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sohohoho
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April 2011
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jettad
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New phlegm print coming soon, by jettad on Apr 10, 2013 17:55:04 GMT 1, Thanks Sohohoho. Looks fantastic! Any thoughts on how you are going to frame it?
Thanks Sohohoho. Looks fantastic! Any thoughts on how you are going to frame it?
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sohohoho
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April 2011
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New phlegm print coming soon, by sohohoho on Apr 10, 2013 18:34:42 GMT 1, Thanks Sohohoho. Looks fantastic! Any thoughts on how you are going to frame it? I'll probably go for a pink swept frame and have it floated on a baby blue background within a luxury deep-bevel multi-coloured triple mount with "V" groove. Can't wait!
Thanks Sohohoho. Looks fantastic! Any thoughts on how you are going to frame it? I'll probably go for a pink swept frame and have it floated on a baby blue background within a luxury deep-bevel multi-coloured triple mount with "V" groove. Can't wait!
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wentos
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February 2011
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New phlegm print coming soon, by wentos on Apr 10, 2013 20:21:00 GMT 1, Hopefully mine will arrive tomorrow then.
I'm going for a black frame.
Hopefully mine will arrive tomorrow then.
I'm going for a black frame.
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alittle
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November 2012
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New phlegm print coming soon, by alittle on Apr 10, 2013 20:24:12 GMT 1, I'm doing a black frame too, with a 2" 8-ply off-white mat.
I'm doing a black frame too, with a 2" 8-ply off-white mat.
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sfinks
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December 2011
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New phlegm print coming soon, by sfinks on Apr 21, 2013 16:40:44 GMT 1, Phlegm...
Most dissapointet artist in 2013 for me. Really had high hopes for him.
Phlegm...
Most dissapointet artist in 2013 for me. Really had high hopes for him.
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New phlegm print coming soon, by 11 on Apr 21, 2013 18:26:20 GMT 1, Phlegm... Most dissapointet artist in 2013 for me. Really had high hopes for him.
Based on the number of prints he has released ? Phlegm is one of the most prolific street artists around today. He doesn't seem to be driven by any sort Of commercial gain and when you talk to him it is quite apparent that he loves painting - everything else he does is purely to fund that passion (and pay the rent), along with a few good causes along the way.
I wish he would release more, sell more of his drawings and be more accessible but you have to respect what he does - excellent artist IMO but not one you will necessarily get rich from
Phlegm... Most dissapointet artist in 2013 for me. Really had high hopes for him. Based on the number of prints he has released ? Phlegm is one of the most prolific street artists around today. He doesn't seem to be driven by any sort Of commercial gain and when you talk to him it is quite apparent that he loves painting - everything else he does is purely to fund that passion (and pay the rent), along with a few good causes along the way. I wish he would release more, sell more of his drawings and be more accessible but you have to respect what he does - excellent artist IMO but not one you will necessarily get rich from
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