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Dolk Still Rising , by Deleted on Jun 28, 2013 10:46:35 GMT 1, Ok this is my final final post I promise ; )
Oh my god - that was said tongue in cheek people - come on try and use some imagination.
I'm assuming that by the times that you post that you're not Americans so you should be able to get the humour.
PS - it's a shame that RX3857 decided to start throwing personal insults around. If that would have been me I probably would have apologised but I guess sometimes being able to apologise requires a level of maturity that he clearly doesn't possess.
Ok this is my final final post I promise ; )
Oh my god - that was said tongue in cheek people - come on try and use some imagination.
I'm assuming that by the times that you post that you're not Americans so you should be able to get the humour.
PS - it's a shame that RX3857 decided to start throwing personal insults around. If that would have been me I probably would have apologised but I guess sometimes being able to apologise requires a level of maturity that he clearly doesn't possess.
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Dolk Still Rising , by Happy Shopper on Jun 28, 2013 11:19:02 GMT 1, Hmmm, well, nothing about your post sounded like a joke, but I find a smiley face normally lets people know you mean it with humour 
On another point:
Why would the success of one artist effect the price of another? Make's no sense at all, and obviously isn't a reason for critising Dolk... not that I think anyone is really critising him!
Seems the real point is that many feel Banksy isn't famous just through hype but through talent, and being an innovator in this scene (despite obvious similarities with Blek, etc), while Dolk came along on the back of Banksy's success (doing a similar style) and so can't really ever be concidered so ground breaking.
Simple as that!
Hmmm, well, nothing about your post sounded like a joke, but I find a smiley face normally lets people know you mean it with humour On another point: Why would the success of one artist effect the price of another? Make's no sense at all, and obviously isn't a reason for critising Dolk... not that I think anyone is really critising him! Seems the real point is that many feel Banksy isn't famous just through hype but through talent, and being an innovator in this scene (despite obvious similarities with Blek, etc), while Dolk came along on the back of Banksy's success (doing a similar style) and so can't really ever be concidered so ground breaking. Simple as that! |
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Dolk Still Rising , by Deleted on Jun 28, 2013 12:36:00 GMT 1, Ok this is my final final post I promise ; ) Oh my god - that was said tongue in cheek people - come on try and use some imagination. I'm assuming that by the times that you post that you're not Americans so you should be able to get the humour.
Ok this is my final final post I promise ; ) Oh my god - that was said tongue in cheek people - come on try and use some imagination. I'm assuming that by the times that you post that you're not Americans so you should be able to get the humour. You talk a lot of rubbish |
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Dolk Still Rising , by Deleted on Jun 28, 2013 22:52:15 GMT 1, Cant believe this thread has dropped off the page,theres loads to say yet surely?. To be honest i havent looked a lot at Dolks works other than Evolution and the Dog one, the ones i have seen are the Riot pair and the Astronaut and the..... erm...... other one with the Policeman (not so keen on that one), the others are good i reckon!, oh and the Prisoner one.
Cant believe this thread has dropped off the page,theres loads to say yet surely?. To be honest i havent looked a lot at Dolks works other than Evolution and the Dog one, the ones i have seen are the Riot pair and the Astronaut and the..... erm...... other one with the Policeman (not so keen on that one), the others are good i reckon!, oh and the Prisoner one.
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Dolk Still Rising , by Damien on Jun 28, 2013 22:54:09 GMT 1, Cant believe this thread has dropped off the page,theres loads to say yet surely?. To be honest i havent looked a lot at Dolks works other than Evolution and the Dog one, the ones i have seen are the Riot pair and the Astronaut and the..... erm...... other one with the Policeman (not so keen on that one), the others are good i reckon!, oh and the Prisoner one.
Cant believe this thread has dropped off the page,theres loads to say yet surely?. To be honest i havent looked a lot at Dolks works other than Evolution and the Dog one, the ones i have seen are the Riot pair and the Astronaut and the..... erm...... other one with the Policeman (not so keen on that one), the others are good i reckon!, oh and the Prisoner one. whats your opinion on the thoughtd behind the officer down print then wiz |
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Dolk Still Rising , by Deleted on Jun 28, 2013 22:57:40 GMT 1, Its just three blokes looking at a dead pig really i think Damien?, dont understand it. Just looked at HMP and quite like Toy/Circus and the Monkey though.
edit. I think i get it now yes, an OFFICER has been shot DOWN and has consequently transformed into a Pig, Christ knows why though?, do they still call policemen Pigs?.
Its just three blokes looking at a dead pig really i think Damien?, dont understand it. Just looked at HMP and quite like Toy/Circus and the Monkey though.
edit. I think i get it now yes, an OFFICER has been shot DOWN and has consequently transformed into a Pig, Christ knows why though?, do they still call policemen Pigs?.
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Dolk Still Rising , by Damien on Jun 28, 2013 23:06:51 GMT 1, Its just three blokes looking at a dead pig really i think Damien?, dont understand it. Just looked at HMP and quite like Toy/Circus and the Monkey though. edit. I think i get it now yes, an OFFICER has been shot DOWN and has consequently transformed into a Pig, Christ knows why though?, do they still call policemen Pigs?.
what about the girl leap frogging a priest?
any opinions?
Its just three blokes looking at a dead pig really i think Damien?, dont understand it. Just looked at HMP and quite like Toy/Circus and the Monkey though. edit. I think i get it now yes, an OFFICER has been shot DOWN and has consequently transformed into a Pig, Christ knows why though?, do they still call policemen Pigs?. yeah i think pigmask and pig are both about police being called pigs, i havent heard the saying apart from in a film(romper stomper i think) think its not used anymore, i only really like prisoner and last mona,grenade lovers. what about the girl leap frogging a priest? any opinions? |
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Dolk Still Rising , by Chrisp on Jun 28, 2013 23:51:17 GMT 1, Few of Dolks are pretty easy to feel comfortable with, others i have not got a clue?! Only in the mind of the artist I suppose?
Few of Dolks are pretty easy to feel comfortable with, others i have not got a clue?! Only in the mind of the artist I suppose?
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Dolk Still Rising , by Dr Plip on Jun 29, 2013 13:15:42 GMT 1, I agree. Like all street art really. Best served outdoors.
I agree. Like all street art really. Best served outdoors.
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Dolk Still Rising , by Daniel Silk on Jul 4, 2013 14:39:16 GMT 1, Yeah, I think Dolk's work does look best out on the streets and maybe to really appreciate it at home on the wall it helps to have that knowledge of his outside work in your mind.
Yeah, I think Dolk's work does look best out on the streets and maybe to really appreciate it at home on the wall it helps to have that knowledge of his outside work in your mind.
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Dolk Still Rising , by Press Play on Aug 22, 2013 12:16:53 GMT 1, "EVERY NORWEGIAN CHILD has stood in cross-country skis at the bottom of a snowy slope and looked up at his or her father. "So your dad is there at the top of the hill holding a treat and he says, 'Just make it up here, and we'll take a break,'" Is that true? That's a bold fact to throw out there at the start of the article.
That's a pretty good way to describe a typical, norwegian childhood.
"EVERY NORWEGIAN CHILD has stood in cross-country skis at the bottom of a snowy slope and looked up at his or her father. "So your dad is there at the top of the hill holding a treat and he says, 'Just make it up here, and we'll take a break,'" Is that true? That's a bold fact to throw out there at the start of the article. That's a pretty good way to describe a typical, norwegian childhood. |
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Dolk Still Rising , by slow on Sept 11, 2013 17:11:05 GMT 1, Robert Redford makes a film about iconic bulidings, and one of the Iconic bulidings is bulidings
Halden prison in Norway. This is the prison that Dolk has made some iconic murals! (Looking forward to see how it will look in 3 D): Dolk has made three murals for this iconic building (prison) namely: Prisoner, Policeline and stripes.
"The concept of Cathedrals of Culture is for the filmmakers to take a subjective look at an iconic building as a window into a society's culture.
Wenders has already wrapped principle photography on his film for the series, which examines the Berlin Philharmonic. Other iconic buildings in the series include Halden Prison in Halden, Norway (Madsen), the National Library in St. Petersburg, Russia (Glawogger) and the Oslo Opera House in Oslo, Norway "
Link til Hollywood reporter: www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/robert-redford-direct-segment-3d-557902
Here is a linkto Time Magazine's article when to prison opened in 2010:
www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1986002,00.html
Robert Redford makes a film about iconic bulidings, and one of the Iconic bulidings is bulidings Halden prison in Norway. This is the prison that Dolk has made some iconic murals! (Looking forward to see how it will look in 3 D): Dolk has made three murals for this iconic building (prison) namely: Prisoner, Policeline and stripes. "The concept of Cathedrals of Culture is for the filmmakers to take a subjective look at an iconic building as a window into a society's culture. Wenders has already wrapped principle photography on his film for the series, which examines the Berlin Philharmonic. Other iconic buildings in the series include Halden Prison in Halden, Norway (Madsen), the National Library in St. Petersburg, Russia (Glawogger) and the Oslo Opera House in Oslo, Norway " Link til Hollywood reporter: www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/robert-redford-direct-segment-3d-557902Here is a linkto Time Magazine's article when to prison opened in 2010: www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1986002,00.html |
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Dolk Still Rising , by cafebrazil on Jul 5, 2014 22:54:37 GMT 1, Its just three blokes looking at a dead pig really i think Damien?, dont understand it. Just looked at HMP and quite like Toy/Circus and the Monkey though. edit. I think i get it now yes, an OFFICER has been shot DOWN and has consequently transformed into a Pig, Christ knows why though?, do they still call policemen Pigs?. yeah i think pigmask and pig are both about police being called pigs, i havent heard the saying apart from in a film(romper stomper i think) think its not used anymore, i only really like prisoner and last mona,grenade lovers. what about the girl leap frogging a priest? any opinions?
Its just three blokes looking at a dead pig really i think Damien?, dont understand it. Just looked at HMP and quite like Toy/Circus and the Monkey though. edit. I think i get it now yes, an OFFICER has been shot DOWN and has consequently transformed into a Pig, Christ knows why though?, do they still call policemen Pigs?. yeah i think pigmask and pig are both about police being called pigs, i havent heard the saying apart from in a film(romper stomper i think) think its not used anymore, i only really like prisoner and last mona,grenade lovers. what about the girl leap frogging a priest? any opinions? Most likely 'Leap' is a play on the expression 'Leap of faith'. |
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Dolk Still Rising , by cafebrazil on Jul 5, 2014 23:09:51 GMT 1, Seems the real point is that many feel Banksy isn't famous just through hype but through talent, and being an innovator in this scene (despite obvious similarities with Blek, etc), while Dolk came along on the back of Banksy's success (doing a similar style) and so can't really ever be considered so ground breaking. Simple as that!
Everything is derivative to some degree, IMHO.
Comparing Banksy to Dolk resembles a comparison between Jordan and some baller. Not really a fair competition for a new upstart to be compared with an icon. Besides Banksy has at least a 10 year jump on Dolk.
Dolk does cite Banksy as his muse, but I think Dolk has successfully added his own spin. 'Living Decay' is masterful.
Finally, judgment of hype/talent is subjective; however, don't underestimate 'hype'. The number one living artist (the one with assistants who paint dots all day for him) became the number one living artist riding mostly on 'hype'.
The 5 million people in one of the 'world's happiest countries' certainly know talent when they see it;)
Seems the real point is that many feel Banksy isn't famous just through hype but through talent, and being an innovator in this scene (despite obvious similarities with Blek, etc), while Dolk came along on the back of Banksy's success (doing a similar style) and so can't really ever be considered so ground breaking. Simple as that! Everything is derivative to some degree, IMHO. Comparing Banksy to Dolk resembles a comparison between Jordan and some baller. Not really a fair competition for a new upstart to be compared with an icon. Besides Banksy has at least a 10 year jump on Dolk. Dolk does cite Banksy as his muse, but I think Dolk has successfully added his own spin. 'Living Decay' is masterful. Finally, judgment of hype/talent is subjective; however, don't underestimate 'hype'. The number one living artist (the one with assistants who paint dots all day for him) became the number one living artist riding mostly on 'hype'. The 5 million people in one of the ' world's happiest countries' certainly know talent when they see it;) |
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Dolk Still Rising , by Deleted on Jul 5, 2014 23:11:19 GMT 1, but its terrible.
but its terrible.
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Dolk Still Rising , by Deleted on Jul 6, 2014 0:03:52 GMT 1, Cafe you're obviously fan ( and I am too on occasion)... A few things - dolks been around a long old while in street art terms and although there's been a couple of rises in prices there's little to suggest movement is particularly large ... Secondary apart from on a couple of pieces has not really caught fire...so I wouldn't get too excited just yet. Originals still get offered at well under 10k which says something to those watching and some would suggest his best work is behind him too which doesn't necessarily bode well either ...
Cafe you're obviously fan ( and I am too on occasion)... A few things - dolks been around a long old while in street art terms and although there's been a couple of rises in prices there's little to suggest movement is particularly large ... Secondary apart from on a couple of pieces has not really caught fire...so I wouldn't get too excited just yet. Originals still get offered at well under 10k which says something to those watching and some would suggest his best work is behind him too which doesn't necessarily bode well either ...
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Dolk Still Rising , by cafebrazil on Jul 6, 2014 0:17:37 GMT 1, ditto Hirst I suppose - its easier to sell the brand that it is to sell the actual art is some ways and yes, I am long a couple of Hirsts. so there is no reason for me to talk it down - my only ever true purchase meant only for long term capital appreciation
I see that you are a fellow connoisseur of 'hype' too.
ditto Hirst I suppose - its easier to sell the brand that it is to sell the actual art is some ways and yes, I am long a couple of Hirsts. so there is no reason for me to talk it down - my only ever true purchase meant only for long term capital appreciation I see that you are a fellow connoisseur of 'hype' too. |
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Dolk Still Rising , by cafebrazil on Jul 6, 2014 0:54:44 GMT 1, Cafe you're obviously fan ( and I am too on occasion)... A few things - dolks been around a long old while in street art terms and although there's been a couple of rises in prices there's little to suggest movement is particularly large ... Secondary apart from on a couple of pieces has not really caught fire...so I wouldn't get too excited just yet. Originals still get offered at well under 10k which says something to those watching and some would suggest his best work is behind him too which doesn't necessarily bode well either ...
I concur with the need for skepticism about the market. I'm not intending to suggest that Dolk will rise, although my response invites that interpretation. I just get the impression that this has become the Banksy vs Dolk thread, but I don't necessarily see the need to go on chest thumping and declaring Dolk merely emulates Banksy and simply rides on hype. Dolk and Banksy are two different brands basically. Blek the Rat is to Banksy is to Dolk as the First Xerox GUI is to Macintosh is to Windows 1.0. Someone creates a new thing, someone else improves it and someone else popularizes it. Same old story again and again.
Final point the art market is dominated by talent + successful promotion. The most talented artist in the world won't make a blip in the market without promotion, ie 'hype' to spread the art to the world, so we shall always have this tension between talent and promotion for any popular artist, whether mainstream or underground.
Cafe you're obviously fan ( and I am too on occasion)... A few things - dolks been around a long old while in street art terms and although there's been a couple of rises in prices there's little to suggest movement is particularly large ... Secondary apart from on a couple of pieces has not really caught fire...so I wouldn't get too excited just yet. Originals still get offered at well under 10k which says something to those watching and some would suggest his best work is behind him too which doesn't necessarily bode well either ... I concur with the need for skepticism about the market. I'm not intending to suggest that Dolk will rise, although my response invites that interpretation. I just get the impression that this has become the Banksy vs Dolk thread, but I don't necessarily see the need to go on chest thumping and declaring Dolk merely emulates Banksy and simply rides on hype. Dolk and Banksy are two different brands basically. Blek the Rat is to Banksy is to Dolk as the First Xerox GUI is to Macintosh is to Windows 1.0. Someone creates a new thing, someone else improves it and someone else popularizes it. Same old story again and again. Final point the art market is dominated by talent + successful promotion. The most talented artist in the world won't make a blip in the market without promotion, ie 'hype' to spread the art to the world, so we shall always have this tension between talent and promotion for any popular artist, whether mainstream or underground. |
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Dolk Still Rising , by Deleted on Jul 6, 2014 1:13:54 GMT 1, I concur Dolk and banksy are different beasts
I concur Dolk and banksy are different beasts
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Dolk Still Rising , by tommyd on Jul 11, 2014 15:05:12 GMT 1, For me itโs time for something new and refreshing and now even original (dare I say it!)! Does anybody have any good pointers for cheap but promising artists in the urban/street vibe? Banksy and Dolk or starting to become a little tired in my eyesโฆ
For me itโs time for something new and refreshing and now even original (dare I say it!)! Does anybody have any good pointers for cheap but promising artists in the urban/street vibe? Banksy and Dolk or starting to become a little tired in my eyesโฆ
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