Damien
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FS: UNIQUE Banksy inscribed rock¨Spike¨2005, by Damien on Sept 17, 2013 10:53:59 GMT 1, would anyone here really buy that rock if it had pest control and what not? just wondering
would anyone here really buy that rock if it had pest control and what not? just wondering
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Quinnster
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FS: UNIQUE Banksy inscribed rock¨Spike¨2005, by Quinnster on Sept 17, 2013 11:25:12 GMT 1, I would love to see this rock on Four Rooms.
I would love to see this rock on Four Rooms.
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pelle
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FS: UNIQUE Banksy inscribed rock¨Spike¨2005, by pelle on Sept 17, 2013 12:25:49 GMT 1, And most men say we women are b**chy and into gossip !!! Pelle, I don't need to defend myself against lies, especially to you or any other idiot trouble maker. Those bad things you mention are not true. 2 out of 3 Banksy artworks come with checked documents. . Those who don't know me may believe those untruths at first, but if you are patient and willing to see me demonstrate my good qualities, even those who don't know me well will doubt those lies. If anyone has any doubt about any or all Banksy's that I have put up for sale ask the gallery MultiplesInc gallery who have them listed. I Don't defend myself against gossip, and don't participate in gossiping about others. That someone has told lies about me. If I start explaining, more OF u people will get drawn in and take sides, and in the end I realise it's all been made worse. Gossip is best left to die on its own - ESPECIALLY based on lies, it will almost always do so.
If you really believe that you are in the right and that you don't need to defend yourself, your post seems unnecessary.
While calling me an "idiot trouble maker" may make you feel better about yourself, it should not remove attention from the facts at hand. All three of the "artworks" that you are trying to sell have sketchy provenance at best.
1) The "You Lie" rat has been demonstrated to have been sold for £300 on eBay in June 2013 (www.ebay.com/itm/151072577430). It came with no COA or proven provenance then, and from what you have presented, this has not changed.
2) The "Lying to the police is never wrong" faux wall piece comes with no proven provenance. At Still Kicking Gallery an e-mail which allegedly came from Pest Control was displayed along with it. There is no proof that this e-mail is not a fabrication, but even if it is real, it clearly confirms that the piece is NOT eligible for authentication. Also note that the e-mail is worded very carefully, so that it in no way confirms that this piece of decoration was actually made by Banksy.
3) The "SPIKE" rock, which this thread is dedicated to, also comes with very sketchy provenance. Again, the e-mails (which you seem to believe constitute "checked documents". Who were they checked by?) could easily be faked, and should therefore be disregarded as far as provenance goes, unless you have some way for the prospective buyer to confirm their authenticity (perhaps your good friend Ralph Lazarides can help you with this).
As an aside, regardless of the authenticity of the e-mails and the rock itself, if the piece was really sold for 30-35K USD in 2007 (as you claim), it seems strange that it would be for sale at Still Kicking Gallery in 2012 for roughly 7,700 USD. And even stranger that your current price tag of 17K USD should be considered "very reasonable".
To sum up: As already mentioned above, all of these "artworks" come with very doubtful provenance. The fact that the rock and the faux wall piece come with e-mails which are easy to fabricate and that they have been displayed at various dubious second-hand galleries does not make them the real deal. The fact that the rat stencil painting was sold on e-Bay a few months ago with no provenance and an unlikely "my-mate-found-this" story... well, I think that speaks for itself.
And most men say we women are b**chy and into gossip !!! Pelle, I don't need to defend myself against lies, especially to you or any other idiot trouble maker. Those bad things you mention are not true. 2 out of 3 Banksy artworks come with checked documents. . Those who don't know me may believe those untruths at first, but if you are patient and willing to see me demonstrate my good qualities, even those who don't know me well will doubt those lies. If anyone has any doubt about any or all Banksy's that I have put up for sale ask the gallery MultiplesInc gallery who have them listed. I Don't defend myself against gossip, and don't participate in gossiping about others. That someone has told lies about me. If I start explaining, more OF u people will get drawn in and take sides, and in the end I realise it's all been made worse. Gossip is best left to die on its own - ESPECIALLY based on lies, it will almost always do so. If you really believe that you are in the right and that you don't need to defend yourself, your post seems unnecessary. While calling me an "idiot trouble maker" may make you feel better about yourself, it should not remove attention from the facts at hand. All three of the "artworks" that you are trying to sell have sketchy provenance at best. 1) The "You Lie" rat has been demonstrated to have been sold for £300 on eBay in June 2013 ( www.ebay.com/itm/151072577430). It came with no COA or proven provenance then, and from what you have presented, this has not changed. 2) The "Lying to the police is never wrong" faux wall piece comes with no proven provenance. At Still Kicking Gallery an e-mail which allegedly came from Pest Control was displayed along with it. There is no proof that this e-mail is not a fabrication, but even if it is real, it clearly confirms that the piece is NOT eligible for authentication. Also note that the e-mail is worded very carefully, so that it in no way confirms that this piece of decoration was actually made by Banksy. 3) The "SPIKE" rock, which this thread is dedicated to, also comes with very sketchy provenance. Again, the e-mails (which you seem to believe constitute "checked documents". Who were they checked by?) could easily be faked, and should therefore be disregarded as far as provenance goes, unless you have some way for the prospective buyer to confirm their authenticity (perhaps your good friend Ralph Lazarides can help you with this). As an aside, regardless of the authenticity of the e-mails and the rock itself, if the piece was really sold for 30-35K USD in 2007 (as you claim), it seems strange that it would be for sale at Still Kicking Gallery in 2012 for roughly 7,700 USD. And even stranger that your current price tag of 17K USD should be considered "very reasonable". To sum up: As already mentioned above, all of these "artworks" come with very doubtful provenance. The fact that the rock and the faux wall piece come with e-mails which are easy to fabricate and that they have been displayed at various dubious second-hand galleries does not make them the real deal. The fact that the rat stencil painting was sold on e-Bay a few months ago with no provenance and an unlikely "my-mate-found-this" story... well, I think that speaks for itself. |
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pelle
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FS: UNIQUE Banksy inscribed rock¨Spike¨2005, by pelle on Sept 17, 2013 12:38:17 GMT 1,
Ah, yes. The infamous article in Information in which "journalist" Kristian Villesen holds the microphone and let's Solomon Lyttle talk, without ever asking a single critical question.
The best parts of the article are the erratum at the top (in wich the editor basically states that the journalist f**ked up by not hearing other sides of the story) and the reader comments at the bottom.
Ah, yes. The infamous article in Information in which "journalist" Kristian Villesen holds the microphone and let's Solomon Lyttle talk, without ever asking a single critical question. The best parts of the article are the erratum at the top (in wich the editor basically states that the journalist f**ked up by not hearing other sides of the story) and the reader comments at the bottom. |
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Damien
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FS: UNIQUE Banksy inscribed rock¨Spike¨2005, by Damien on Sept 17, 2013 14:42:45 GMT 1, would anyone here really buy that rock if it had pest control and what not? just wondering If i had the cash and was sure it would make a profit with a COA from pestcontrol i would be looking at it here on my desk right now!, nobody would say no to a profit would they?. 
would anyone here really buy that rock if it had pest control and what not? just wondering If i had the cash and was sure it would make a profit with a COA from pestcontrol i would be looking at it here on my desk right now!, nobody would say no to a profit would they?. would be on your desk for a very long time |
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FS: UNIQUE Banksy inscribed rock¨Spike¨2005, by swartfan21 on Sept 17, 2013 16:25:33 GMT 1, would anyone here really buy that rock if it had pest control and what not? just wondering
I think if Banksy did a sh*t and freeze dried it then there would be certain people on this forum clambering to buy it if it came with a Pest Control COA!!
would anyone here really buy that rock if it had pest control and what not? just wondering I think if Banksy did a sh*t and freeze dried it then there would be certain people on this forum clambering to buy it if it came with a Pest Control COA!! |
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FS: UNIQUE Banksy inscribed rock¨Spike¨2005, by Deleted on Sept 17, 2013 16:32:19 GMT 1, i defo would yeah
i defo would yeah
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FS: UNIQUE Banksy inscribed rock¨Spike¨2005, by Deleted on Sept 17, 2013 16:38:56 GMT 1, If i had the cash and was sure it would make a profit with a COA from pestcontrol i would be looking at it here on my desk right now!, nobody would say no to a profit would they?. would be on your desk for a very long time
If i had the cash and was sure it would make a profit with a COA from pestcontrol i would be looking at it here on my desk right now!, nobody would say no to a profit would they?. would be on your desk for a very long time no it wouldnt matey cos i would have had a buyer lined up for it before shelling out the bonce!, fkin double at least yaaaaaay! NAIL THAT CAP ON!. |
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Damien
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FS: UNIQUE Banksy inscribed rock¨Spike¨2005, by Damien on Sept 17, 2013 18:57:07 GMT 1, would be on your desk for a very long time no it wouldnt matey cos i would have had a buyer lined up for it before shelling out the bonce!, fkin double at least yaaaaaay! NAIL THAT CAP ON!. 
would be on your desk for a very long time no it wouldnt matey cos i would have had a buyer lined up for it before shelling out the bonce!, fkin double at least yaaaaaay! NAIL THAT CAP ON!. bang on offer in with the actual gallery that has it |
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FS: UNIQUE Banksy inscribed rock¨Spike¨2005, by Deleted on Sept 17, 2013 19:17:39 GMT 1, I've got a brick that has the initials R.G scratched in it with a pen knife which I beleieve was done by Mr Gunningham himself. Yours for just £5k if you're interested
I've got a brick that has the initials R.G scratched in it with a pen knife which I beleieve was done by Mr Gunningham himself. Yours for just £5k if you're interested
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FS: UNIQUE Banksy inscribed rock¨Spike¨2005, by Cocteau 101 on Sept 17, 2013 19:30:09 GMT 1, jlady - pelle as you say is in fact not a troublemaker but a very well informed long standing collector whereas you sound like a clown.
jlady - pelle as you say is in fact not a troublemaker but a very well informed long standing collector whereas you sound like a clown.
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