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Banksy - Better Out Than In - New York - BOTI, by johnnyh on Oct 4, 2013 15:46:49 GMT 1, God is the New York council (or whatever the American equivalent is!) really that on the ball that they are buffing pieces within hours? Surely not. Do you think banksy inc. is doing the buffing? There must be stacks of graffiti in manhattan that hasn't been buffed. On another note by the end of the month this event will have generated so much good PR (and money) for New York (the show in Bristol brought in millions for local businesses etc) that surely the council shouldn't be buffing the pieces?
If you look at the wall it had already been buffed so probably done by the owners regularly. If they went up a couple of days ago then the announcement photo may also be a day or two old so may be not instant buffing
God is the New York council (or whatever the American equivalent is!) really that on the ball that they are buffing pieces within hours? Surely not. Do you think banksy inc. is doing the buffing? There must be stacks of graffiti in manhattan that hasn't been buffed. On another note by the end of the month this event will have generated so much good PR (and money) for New York (the show in Bristol brought in millions for local businesses etc) that surely the council shouldn't be buffing the pieces? If you look at the wall it had already been buffed so probably done by the owners regularly. If they went up a couple of days ago then the announcement photo may also be a day or two old so may be not instant buffing
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Banksy - Better Out Than In - New York - BOTI, by thisisanton on Oct 4, 2013 15:49:49 GMT 1, Come on NY, this isn't a race to see who can buff out his work the fastest. There's plenty of other graffiti out there. Start with those and work your way to Banksy.
Come on NY, this isn't a race to see who can buff out his work the fastest. There's plenty of other graffiti out there. Start with those and work your way to Banksy.
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Banksy - Better Out Than In - New York - BOTI, by rosh on Oct 4, 2013 15:50:12 GMT 1, " UPDATE: We found the “dirty underwear” piece, at 204 Bushwick Avenue, between Meserole and Scholes. When ANIMAL editor Bucky Turco came across the piece, he spoke to area resident Robert DeJesus, who said the original tag had been there for at least two months, but that Banksy’s “Musical” addition was added three days ago.
When Bucky told DeJesus it was by a famous artist, DeJesus asked an older man who had been cleaning the piece to stop.
“I should build a wall around it and start charging money,” he joked. "
Interesting !
" UPDATE: We found the “dirty underwear” piece, at 204 Bushwick Avenue, between Meserole and Scholes. When ANIMAL editor Bucky Turco came across the piece, he spoke to area resident Robert DeJesus, who said the original tag had been there for at least two months, but that Banksy’s “Musical” addition was added three days ago.
When Bucky told DeJesus it was by a famous artist, DeJesus asked an older man who had been cleaning the piece to stop.
“I should build a wall around it and start charging money,” he joked. "
Interesting !
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Banksy - Better Out Than In - New York - BOTI, by johnnyh on Oct 4, 2013 15:57:01 GMT 1, Now the building people will be catching on to what's happening they will start trying to protect them. I assume this is getting decent local press. This wil get more and more as the month goes n
Now the building people will be catching on to what's happening they will start trying to protect them. I assume this is getting decent local press. This wil get more and more as the month goes n
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Banksy - Better Out Than In - New York - BOTI, by Coach on Oct 4, 2013 16:00:43 GMT 1, Mike Segar / Reuters
Great pic!!
Mike Segar / Reuters Great pic!!
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Banksy - Better Out Than In - New York - BOTI, by Johnnyroyale on Oct 4, 2013 16:01:07 GMT 1, "Other graffiti artist are also available"
"Other graffiti artist are also available"
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Banksy - Better Out Than In - New York - BOTI, by Winter on Oct 4, 2013 16:10:18 GMT 1, I think 'Dirty Underwear the Musical' is very funny, made me laugh anyway and as far as I'm concerned, that's all that counts
I think 'Dirty Underwear the Musical' is very funny, made me laugh anyway and as far as I'm concerned, that's all that counts
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Banksy - Better Out Than In - New York - BOTI, by Invaded 420 on Oct 4, 2013 16:19:35 GMT 1, I think 'Dirty Underwear the Musical' is very funny, made me laugh anyway and as far as I'm concerned, that's all that counts spot on!
I think 'Dirty Underwear the Musical' is very funny, made me laugh anyway and as far as I'm concerned, that's all that counts spot on!
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Banksy - Better Out Than In - New York - BOTI, by Deleted on Oct 4, 2013 16:21:57 GMT 1, Edit: just read buffed is at broadway and Hewes?
Edit: just read buffed is at broadway and Hewes?
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Banksy - Better Out Than In - New York - BOTI, by Petrusino on Oct 4, 2013 16:23:32 GMT 1, Honestly I expected a bit more respect for this "artists residency on the streets of new york". Seems to me that the institutions that deal with art and culture in NY do not care so much to safeguard the works of one of the greatest artists of our time...I do not think that just because it's graffiti it is right destroy. One day there will not be trace of his works on the streets. I think posterity would like be able to see a Banksy works on the streets...
Honestly I expected a bit more respect for this "artists residency on the streets of new york". Seems to me that the institutions that deal with art and culture in NY do not care so much to safeguard the works of one of the greatest artists of our time...I do not think that just because it's graffiti it is right destroy. One day there will not be trace of his works on the streets. I think posterity would like be able to see a Banksy works on the streets...
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Banksy - Better Out Than In - New York - BOTI, by Deleted on Oct 4, 2013 16:30:41 GMT 1, Maybe he has done more but they wont get photographed and put on Twitter etc, they may just keep quiet about them?.
Maybe he has done more but they wont get photographed and put on Twitter etc, they may just keep quiet about them?.
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Banksy - Better Out Than In - New York - BOTI, by Deleted on Oct 4, 2013 16:31:02 GMT 1, Not sure if its worth hitting the Bushwick piece, I guess it depends how far it is from the Williamsburg piece Occupy has been buffed. The only piece in Brooklyn is dirty laundry which is on Bushwick/williamsburg border.
I'm going for a hat trick
Not sure if its worth hitting the Bushwick piece, I guess it depends how far it is from the Williamsburg piece Occupy has been buffed. The only piece in Brooklyn is dirty laundry which is on Bushwick/williamsburg border. I'm going for a hat trick
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Banksy - Better Out Than In - New York - BOTI, by sufsean on Oct 4, 2013 16:43:18 GMT 1, Went to Delancey spot--still in tact. Surprised no one was going through garbage next to the piece. It's at Delancey, between Bowery and Chrystie.
5 minutes walking distance from Allen Street #1, which was buffed already obviously.
Went to Delancey spot--still in tact. Surprised no one was going through garbage next to the piece. It's at Delancey, between Bowery and Chrystie.
5 minutes walking distance from Allen Street #1, which was buffed already obviously.
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Banksy - Better Out Than In - New York - BOTI, by Deleted on Oct 4, 2013 16:43:40 GMT 1, This not Banksy is it?.
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Banksy - Better Out Than In - New York - BOTI, by jettad on Oct 4, 2013 16:45:15 GMT 1, I think this whole thing is so refreshing and I can't wait to see more of them. Also the fact that they get tagged, edited or destroyed is all part of the fun! Loving this.
Has anyone else got through to the audio guide for his latest? All I get is a busy signal.
I think this whole thing is so refreshing and I can't wait to see more of them. Also the fact that they get tagged, edited or destroyed is all part of the fun! Loving this. Has anyone else got through to the audio guide for his latest? All I get is a busy signal.
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Banksy - Better Out Than In - New York - BOTI, by twist65 on Oct 4, 2013 16:47:24 GMT 1, Honestly I expected a bit more respect for this "artists residency on the streets of new york". Seems to me that the institutions that deal with art and culture in NY do not care so much to safeguard the works of one of the greatest artists of our time...I do not think that just because it's graffiti it is right destroy. One day there will not be trace of his works on the streets. I think posterity would like be able to see a Banksy works on the streets... Sorry but I don't see why Banksy should be treated any differently by the authorities than any other writer or artist. If they buff graffiti then they should do the same with this - it's not an official "artists residency on the street" - thats just what Banksy has decided to call it. Personally I hate the hypocrisy with councils and the police in britain who will buff/prosecute anyone but if Banksy pops up they petition to keep it under plexiglass etc. You can't change the rules just for Banksy because he's famous and you can get a few $$£s for his work... (well actually they can and they do...)
If Banksy wanted these pieces to remain untouched he would have done them on canvas and stuck them in a gallery instead. The fact they're transient is surely the point and adds to the fun.
Honestly I expected a bit more respect for this "artists residency on the streets of new york". Seems to me that the institutions that deal with art and culture in NY do not care so much to safeguard the works of one of the greatest artists of our time...I do not think that just because it's graffiti it is right destroy. One day there will not be trace of his works on the streets. I think posterity would like be able to see a Banksy works on the streets... Sorry but I don't see why Banksy should be treated any differently by the authorities than any other writer or artist. If they buff graffiti then they should do the same with this - it's not an official "artists residency on the street" - thats just what Banksy has decided to call it. Personally I hate the hypocrisy with councils and the police in britain who will buff/prosecute anyone but if Banksy pops up they petition to keep it under plexiglass etc. You can't change the rules just for Banksy because he's famous and you can get a few $$£s for his work... (well actually they can and they do...) If Banksy wanted these pieces to remain untouched he would have done them on canvas and stuck them in a gallery instead. The fact they're transient is surely the point and adds to the fun.
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Banksy - Better Out Than In - New York - BOTI, by lha on Oct 4, 2013 16:48:33 GMT 1, This not Banksy is it?
Come on Wizzy, you know its him...............
This not Banksy is it?
Come on Wizzy, you know its him...............
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Banksy - Better Out Than In - New York - BOTI, by Hairbland on Oct 4, 2013 16:50:09 GMT 1, He was in NYC last weekend, who knows if for entire month.
NYC press is all over this, from NY Times to funky blogs.
We don't have a council that covers graffito, property owners do - MTA does the trains, building owners do the buildings.
It is possible that the buffing over is planned, perhaps a commentary on the disposability of art, considering this project has come on the heels of the recents building cut-outs that have gone to auction. He is creating a buzz with for the most part nobody capitalizing on it.
Perhaps coincidence, the buffing of the first looks like a 1.
Seems like there will be many red herrings during the month, perhaps the old guy in the bball cap one of them. Confounding expectations. Inspiring conversation. All good.
He was in NYC last weekend, who knows if for entire month.
NYC press is all over this, from NY Times to funky blogs.
We don't have a council that covers graffito, property owners do - MTA does the trains, building owners do the buildings.
It is possible that the buffing over is planned, perhaps a commentary on the disposability of art, considering this project has come on the heels of the recents building cut-outs that have gone to auction. He is creating a buzz with for the most part nobody capitalizing on it.
Perhaps coincidence, the buffing of the first looks like a 1.
Seems like there will be many red herrings during the month, perhaps the old guy in the bball cap one of them. Confounding expectations. Inspiring conversation. All good.
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Banksy - Better Out Than In - New York - BOTI, by Warm Gun on Oct 4, 2013 16:50:13 GMT 1, Get home for a shitty sweaty tiring day at work to find not one, but three new Banksy pieces on line. Crap day rescued!
Get home for a shitty sweaty tiring day at work to find not one, but three new Banksy pieces on line. Crap day rescued!
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Banksy - Better Out Than In - New York - BOTI, by dreadnatty on Oct 4, 2013 16:57:20 GMT 1, Buildings in Bushwick and Wiliamsburg get hit constantly and certain buildings get buffed on schedule. Probably just bad timing. The Dirty Underwear piece will be getting plexi today and the guys who run the building are the type of guys that wont allow anyone to tag over it while they are hanging there. Might wanna bring that dude a 40oz.(if hes still awake)
Buildings in Bushwick and Wiliamsburg get hit constantly and certain buildings get buffed on schedule. Probably just bad timing. The Dirty Underwear piece will be getting plexi today and the guys who run the building are the type of guys that wont allow anyone to tag over it while they are hanging there. Might wanna bring that dude a 40oz.(if hes still awake)
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Banksy - Better Out Than In - New York - BOTI, by Dexter Bulldog on Oct 4, 2013 17:14:47 GMT 1, was fun yesterday on 24th just watching the interaction of followers and random people walking home from work trying to figure out why a crowd was there.
was fun yesterday on 24th just watching the interaction of followers and random people walking home from work trying to figure out why a crowd was there.
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Banksy - Better Out Than In - New York - BOTI, by dotdot on Oct 4, 2013 17:26:07 GMT 1, was fun yesterday on 24th just watching the interaction of followers and random people walking home from work trying to figure out why a crowd was there.
there's a timelapse of that kind of thing in the uk , didn't romanygw do one.. ? for Very Little Helps ?
links anyone ?
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was fun yesterday on 24th just watching the interaction of followers and random people walking home from work trying to figure out why a crowd was there. there's a timelapse of that kind of thing in the uk , didn't romanygw do one.. ? for Very Little Helps ? links anyone ? ..
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Banksy - Better Out Than In - New York - BOTI, by Deleted on Oct 4, 2013 17:34:21 GMT 1, Buildings in Bushwick and Wiliamsburg get hit constantly and certain buildings get buffed on schedule. Probably just bad timing. The Dirty Underwear piece will be getting plexi today and the guys who run the building are the type of guys that wont allow anyone to tag over it while they are hanging there. Might wanna bring that dude a 40oz.(if hes still awake) Is a 40 oz a kind of massive sandwich? (or is it drug talk?).
Buildings in Bushwick and Wiliamsburg get hit constantly and certain buildings get buffed on schedule. Probably just bad timing. The Dirty Underwear piece will be getting plexi today and the guys who run the building are the type of guys that wont allow anyone to tag over it while they are hanging there. Might wanna bring that dude a 40oz.(if hes still awake) Is a 40 oz a kind of massive sandwich? (or is it drug talk?).
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Banksy - Better Out Than In - New York - BOTI, by Unlawful Art on Oct 4, 2013 17:41:12 GMT 1, I agree with Hairbland - I think the "B Team" (B standing for Banksy) are buffing over these themselves, I mean, it makes sense, "Better Out Than In" being the title, the fact that walss are being removed as aforementioned.
I even like the fact that these pieces are very interactive with other tags/graffiti, pre-existing signs on the wall, a trail of flower vomit etc. whilst a lot of his older outdoor pieces stood alone, or were in a lot more unusual spots (Happy Choppers and Pulp Fiction that were in Old St. London are examples that come to mind.)
I agree with Hairbland - I think the "B Team" (B standing for Banksy) are buffing over these themselves, I mean, it makes sense, "Better Out Than In" being the title, the fact that walss are being removed as aforementioned.
I even like the fact that these pieces are very interactive with other tags/graffiti, pre-existing signs on the wall, a trail of flower vomit etc. whilst a lot of his older outdoor pieces stood alone, or were in a lot more unusual spots (Happy Choppers and Pulp Fiction that were in Old St. London are examples that come to mind.)
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Banksy - Better Out Than In - New York - BOTI, by Hairbland on Oct 4, 2013 17:47:00 GMT 1, Be interesting to see if he does anything relating to the famous 5pointz in Queens, which has been in the news with hearings over the last few days as it may get torn down for development.
Be interesting to see if he does anything relating to the famous 5pointz in Queens, which has been in the news with hearings over the last few days as it may get torn down for development.
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Banksy - Better Out Than In - New York - BOTI, by Wearology on Oct 4, 2013 17:51:24 GMT 1, I believe this whole entire street show in NY is all about the 5 Pointz. What better way to show the world that one of the most significant buildings in the street art movement should be put on the National Registry of Historical Buildings and protected like George Washington's boyhood home.
I believe this whole entire street show in NY is all about the 5 Pointz. What better way to show the world that one of the most significant buildings in the street art movement should be put on the National Registry of Historical Buildings and protected like George Washington's boyhood home.
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Banksy - Better Out Than In - New York - BOTI, by randomname on Oct 4, 2013 17:58:12 GMT 1, Looks like some genius cleaning the graffiti off his wall. Not knowing the graffiti is worth more than the wall.
Looks like some genius cleaning the graffiti off his wall. Not knowing the graffiti is worth more than the wall.
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Banksy - Better Out Than In - New York - BOTI, by dreadnatty on Oct 4, 2013 18:00:05 GMT 1, Might wanna bring that dude a 40oz.(if hes still awake) Is a 40 oz a kind of massive sandwich? (or is it drug talk?).
Might wanna bring that dude a 40oz.(if hes still awake) Is a 40 oz a kind of massive sandwich? (or is it drug talk?).
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