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Banksy - Better Out Than In - New York - BOTI, by kbfrombk on Oct 22, 2013 22:09:01 GMT 1, amazing.
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Banksy - Better Out Than In - New York - BOTI, by Deleted on Oct 22, 2013 22:10:47 GMT 1, Buying/taking/selling street pieces is to my memory a bit a massive PITA in terms of actually selling them? In that they don't sell,no matter how many posh parties 'brokers' put on. Those foolish enough will soon get fed up of storage fees sooner or later.I laugh like a drain watching the huge chunks of wall being man handled on youtube.Haulage/storage ain't free y'all Yup indeed!, me too!
So, what Banksy should do is this... find an area that needs totally tidying up then post the whole plot as an installation on grimstagram!, before too long some muppets will come along and buy the whole plot from people who actually need the cash!, in the process they clean up the area!.
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Buying/taking/selling street pieces is to my memory a bit a massive PITA in terms of actually selling them? In that they don't sell,no matter how many posh parties 'brokers' put on. Those foolish enough will soon get fed up of storage fees sooner or later.I laugh like a drain watching the huge chunks of wall being man handled on youtube.Haulage/storage ain't free y'all Yup indeed!, me too! So, what Banksy should do is this... find an area that needs totally tidying up then post the whole plot as an installation on grimstagram!, before too long some muppets will come along and buy the whole plot from people who actually need the cash!, in the process they clean up the area!. Next.
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Banksy - Better Out Than In - New York - BOTI, by Deleted on Oct 22, 2013 22:14:50 GMT 1, At least the residents cleaned it up themselves.... If the Council had to do it, taxpayers had to pay for the removal truck...
At least the residents cleaned it up themselves.... If the Council had to do it, taxpayers had to pay for the removal truck...
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Banksy - Better Out Than In - New York - BOTI, by Ruggs on Oct 22, 2013 22:21:25 GMT 1, At least the residents cleaned it up themselves.... If the Council had to do it, taxpayers had to pay for the removal truck... Pity they couldn't clean up the rest of that shit hole.
At least the residents cleaned it up themselves.... If the Council had to do it, taxpayers had to pay for the removal truck... Pity they couldn't clean up the rest of that shit hole.
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Banksy - Better Out Than In - New York - BOTI, by Deleted on Oct 22, 2013 22:23:44 GMT 1, At least the residents cleaned it up themselves.... If the Council had to do it, taxpayers had to pay for the removal truck... Pity they couldn't clean up the rest of that s**t hole. True! What a S**t hole mess is it.
At least the residents cleaned it up themselves.... If the Council had to do it, taxpayers had to pay for the removal truck... Pity they couldn't clean up the rest of that s**t hole. True! What a S**t hole mess is it.
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Banksy - Better Out Than In - New York - BOTI, by graffuturism on Oct 22, 2013 22:25:18 GMT 1, The funny thing is I just decided I hate some of Banksy's "fans" more than the dickheads tagging his work. The taggers are motivated by jealousy, territoriality, or internet fame. While the assholes scooping his work off the street are motivated by greed. Better to be an asshole than a greedy asshole I guess. Those are not fans who took today's Banksy. The guy who took it had no idea who Banksy was. I blame the fans who are the first on site telling everyone and their mom how much the works are worth. It also could have been some random opportunist fan that also just realized this is a piece he could take and hired some guys in the area real fast. I still blame most of this on the Mob of Fans who flock to these pieces daily and educate the people on the dollar aspect of the work instead of the art aspect of it.
The funny thing is I just decided I hate some of Banksy's "fans" more than the dickheads tagging his work. The taggers are motivated by jealousy, territoriality, or internet fame. While the assholes scooping his work off the street are motivated by greed. Better to be an asshole than a greedy asshole I guess. Those are not fans who took today's Banksy. The guy who took it had no idea who Banksy was. I blame the fans who are the first on site telling everyone and their mom how much the works are worth. It also could have been some random opportunist fan that also just realized this is a piece he could take and hired some guys in the area real fast. I still blame most of this on the Mob of Fans who flock to these pieces daily and educate the people on the dollar aspect of the work instead of the art aspect of it.
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Banksy - Better Out Than In - New York - BOTI, by Warm Gun on Oct 22, 2013 22:28:12 GMT 1, Those are not fans who took today's Banksy. The guy who took it had no idea who Banksy was. I blame the fans who are the first on site telling everyone and their mom how much the works are worth. It also could have been some random opportunist fan that also just realized this is a piece he could take and hired some guys in the area real fast. I still blame most of this on the Mob of Fans who flock to these pieces daily and educate the people of what they got. So you blame the very people in which the show is intended for?...the fans? Surely without the fans this show means nothing?...it would have gone unnoticed, no one would have cared. You can't blame the fans for being excited, it's you, the media who spin the value side of the story, the news whips up the frenzy and an unscrupulous few see the pound signs appear in the air. You sound more and more bitter with every post.
Those are not fans who took today's Banksy. The guy who took it had no idea who Banksy was. I blame the fans who are the first on site telling everyone and their mom how much the works are worth. It also could have been some random opportunist fan that also just realized this is a piece he could take and hired some guys in the area real fast. I still blame most of this on the Mob of Fans who flock to these pieces daily and educate the people of what they got. So you blame the very people in which the show is intended for?...the fans? Surely without the fans this show means nothing?...it would have gone unnoticed, no one would have cared. You can't blame the fans for being excited, it's you, the media who spin the value side of the story, the news whips up the frenzy and an unscrupulous few see the pound signs appear in the air. You sound more and more bitter with every post.
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Banksy - Better Out Than In - New York - BOTI, by Ruggs on Oct 22, 2013 22:28:49 GMT 1, Those are not fans who took today's Banksy. The guy who took it had no idea who Banksy was. I blame the fans who are the first on site telling everyone and their mom how much the works are worth. It also could have been some random opportunist fan that also just realized this is a piece he could take and hired some guys in the area real fast. I still blame most of this on the Mob of Fans who flock to these pieces daily and educate the people on the dollar aspect of the work instead of the art aspect of it. Bit like a CYW print queue.
Those are not fans who took today's Banksy. The guy who took it had no idea who Banksy was. I blame the fans who are the first on site telling everyone and their mom how much the works are worth. It also could have been some random opportunist fan that also just realized this is a piece he could take and hired some guys in the area real fast. I still blame most of this on the Mob of Fans who flock to these pieces daily and educate the people on the dollar aspect of the work instead of the art aspect of it. Bit like a CYW print queue.
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Banksy - Better Out Than In - New York - BOTI, by Deleted on Oct 22, 2013 22:29:16 GMT 1, Looks lovely now...
Pity they couldn't clean up the rest of that s**t hole. True! What a S**t hole mess is it.
Looks lovely now... Pity they couldn't clean up the rest of that s**t hole. True! What a S**t hole mess is it.
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Warm Gun
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Banksy - Better Out Than In - New York - BOTI, by Warm Gun on Oct 22, 2013 22:31:34 GMT 1, Looks lovely now... True! What a S**t hole mess is it. That's much better, glad they got rid of that awful bloody pile of cinderblocks.
Looks lovely now... True! What a S**t hole mess is it. That's much better, glad they got rid of that awful bloody pile of cinderblocks.
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Banksy - Better Out Than In - New York - BOTI, by boolbee on Oct 22, 2013 22:31:56 GMT 1, Sorry for the long delay answer, but thanks !
For all the plexi thing, I think in London at the beggining it was for the preservation of the art but it slightly move for $ in NY (I also think that there is maybe some true lover who want to keep that art on the wall).
The problem is that every piece will be damaged (for example : streetartmap.chilledoutco.org/photo.html?id=3455 and streetartmap.chilledoutco.org/photo.html?id=3357 ) and the fun fact is that Banksy is the only urban artist whom pieces are covered of plexi.
Sorry for the long delay answer, but thanks ! For all the plexi thing, I think in London at the beggining it was for the preservation of the art but it slightly move for $ in NY (I also think that there is maybe some true lover who want to keep that art on the wall). The problem is that every piece will be damaged (for example : streetartmap.chilledoutco.org/photo.html?id=3455 and streetartmap.chilledoutco.org/photo.html?id=3357 ) and the fun fact is that Banksy is the only urban artist whom pieces are covered of plexi.
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Banksy - Better Out Than In - New York - BOTI, by graffuturism on Oct 22, 2013 22:32:02 GMT 1, I blame the fans who are the first on site telling everyone and their mom how much the works are worth. It also could have been some random opportunist fan that also just realized this is a piece he could take and hired some guys in the area real fast. I still blame most of this on the Mob of Fans who flock to these pieces daily and educate the people of what they got. So you blame the very people in which the show is intended for?...the fans? Surely without the fans this show means nothing?...it would have gone unnoticed, no one would have cared. You can't blame the fans for being excited, it's you, the media who spin the value side of the story, the news whips up the frenzy and an unscrupulous few see the pound signs appear in the air. You sound more and more bitter with every post. Haha bitter I could care less if this Banksy was defaced or taken or lived on untouched. I am just jumping in a conversation where people are trying to blame the people taking this sculpture. I think the Mob of Fans are the reason for this, its an opinion I have not stake in this so I have zero reason to be bitter. I have nothing against people treking to see the pieces I am sure there are plenty that really appreciate the work, Yet if they where smart they might be more tight lipped about the value of the artwork if they want it to stay insitu.
I blame the fans who are the first on site telling everyone and their mom how much the works are worth. It also could have been some random opportunist fan that also just realized this is a piece he could take and hired some guys in the area real fast. I still blame most of this on the Mob of Fans who flock to these pieces daily and educate the people of what they got. So you blame the very people in which the show is intended for?...the fans? Surely without the fans this show means nothing?...it would have gone unnoticed, no one would have cared. You can't blame the fans for being excited, it's you, the media who spin the value side of the story, the news whips up the frenzy and an unscrupulous few see the pound signs appear in the air. You sound more and more bitter with every post. Haha bitter I could care less if this Banksy was defaced or taken or lived on untouched. I am just jumping in a conversation where people are trying to blame the people taking this sculpture. I think the Mob of Fans are the reason for this, its an opinion I have not stake in this so I have zero reason to be bitter. I have nothing against people treking to see the pieces I am sure there are plenty that really appreciate the work, Yet if they where smart they might be more tight lipped about the value of the artwork if they want it to stay insitu.
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Banksy - Better Out Than In - New York - BOTI, by dreadnatty on Oct 22, 2013 22:35:20 GMT 1, There was a woman brokering a deal with the owners for awhile this afternoon. They looked very happy before i left about 90 mins ago. She was working those phones like a champ! How'd ya like those soup dumplings AFR1KA?
There was a woman brokering a deal with the owners for awhile this afternoon. They looked very happy before i left about 90 mins ago. She was working those phones like a champ! How'd ya like those soup dumplings AFR1KA?
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Banksy - Better Out Than In - New York - BOTI, by Warm Gun on Oct 22, 2013 22:36:05 GMT 1, So you blame the very people in which the show is intended for?...the fans? Surely without the fans this show means nothing?...it would have gone unnoticed, no one would have cared. You can't blame the fans for being excited, it's you, the media who spin the value side of the story, the news whips up the frenzy and an unscrupulous few see the pound signs appear in the air. You sound more and more bitter with every post. Haha bitter I could care less if this Banksy was defaced or taken or lived on untouched. I am just jumping in a conversation where people are trying to blame the people taking this sculpture. I think the Mob of Fans are the reason for this, its an opinion I have not stake in this so I have zero reason to be bitter. I have nothing against people treking to see the pieces I am sure there are plenty that really appreciate the work, Yet if they where smart they might be more tight lipped about the value of the artwork if they want it to stay insitu. Oh right, so the fans should enjoy the work in silence, keep tight lipped, refuse to spread the clear joy that these pieces clearly bring to those that see them... keep it all in the nudge nudge wink wink brigade....and in turn, you the media, will do the same yeah? You won't mention value at all? Opps, a bit late for that. What tripe.
So you blame the very people in which the show is intended for?...the fans? Surely without the fans this show means nothing?...it would have gone unnoticed, no one would have cared. You can't blame the fans for being excited, it's you, the media who spin the value side of the story, the news whips up the frenzy and an unscrupulous few see the pound signs appear in the air. You sound more and more bitter with every post. Haha bitter I could care less if this Banksy was defaced or taken or lived on untouched. I am just jumping in a conversation where people are trying to blame the people taking this sculpture. I think the Mob of Fans are the reason for this, its an opinion I have not stake in this so I have zero reason to be bitter. I have nothing against people treking to see the pieces I am sure there are plenty that really appreciate the work, Yet if they where smart they might be more tight lipped about the value of the artwork if they want it to stay insitu. Oh right, so the fans should enjoy the work in silence, keep tight lipped, refuse to spread the clear joy that these pieces clearly bring to those that see them... keep it all in the nudge nudge wink wink brigade....and in turn, you the media, will do the same yeah? You won't mention value at all? Opps, a bit late for that. What tripe.
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Banksy - Better Out Than In - New York - BOTI, by kbfrombk on Oct 22, 2013 22:36:44 GMT 1, So you blame the very people in which the show is intended for?...the fans? Surely without the fans this show means nothing?...it would have gone unnoticed, no one would have cared. You can't blame the fans for being excited, it's you, the media who spin the value side of the story, the news whips up the frenzy and an unscrupulous few see the pound signs appear in the air. You sound more and more bitter with every post. Haha bitter I could care less if this Banksy was defaced or taken or lived on untouched. I am just jumping in a conversation where people are trying to blame the people taking this sculpture. I think the Mob of Fans are the reason for this, its an opinion I have not stake in this so I have zero reason to be bitter. I have nothing against people treking to see the pieces I am sure there are plenty that really appreciate the work, Yet if they where smart they might be more tight lipped about the value of the artwork if they want it to stay insitu. Not quite sure about all that... so many multiple sources of information as far as that goes, it's not like something that could be kept quiet... What I DO wonder though, is what's up with all these fools taking video and pix of the moving crew? Nobody does anything? Nobody steps up? I would have loved to see someone just pummel the statue while in mid-air, knocking it to smithereens on the ground whilst that sh!tty sh!tty water splattered all over the place.
^This is the classic American syndrome of See-Something-Film-First-Act-Later.
So you blame the very people in which the show is intended for?...the fans? Surely without the fans this show means nothing?...it would have gone unnoticed, no one would have cared. You can't blame the fans for being excited, it's you, the media who spin the value side of the story, the news whips up the frenzy and an unscrupulous few see the pound signs appear in the air. You sound more and more bitter with every post. Haha bitter I could care less if this Banksy was defaced or taken or lived on untouched. I am just jumping in a conversation where people are trying to blame the people taking this sculpture. I think the Mob of Fans are the reason for this, its an opinion I have not stake in this so I have zero reason to be bitter. I have nothing against people treking to see the pieces I am sure there are plenty that really appreciate the work, Yet if they where smart they might be more tight lipped about the value of the artwork if they want it to stay insitu. Not quite sure about all that... so many multiple sources of information as far as that goes, it's not like something that could be kept quiet... What I DO wonder though, is what's up with all these fools taking video and pix of the moving crew? Nobody does anything? Nobody steps up? I would have loved to see someone just pummel the statue while in mid-air, knocking it to smithereens on the ground whilst that sh!tty sh!tty water splattered all over the place. ^This is the classic American syndrome of See-Something-Film-First-Act-Later.
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Banksy - Better Out Than In - New York - BOTI, by .dappy on Oct 22, 2013 22:40:05 GMT 1, Looks lovely now... True! What a S**t hole mess is it. ... looks lovely now ... that did make me laugh ...
Looks lovely now... True! What a S**t hole mess is it. ... looks lovely now ... that did make me laugh ...
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Banksy - Better Out Than In - New York - BOTI, by Deleted on Oct 22, 2013 22:40:24 GMT 1, I can't believe someone was willing to pay (big bucks) for this piece. If this ends up on auction or in a gallery everybody would know where this piece came from and how it was obtained. Why would a gallery / auction house take that risk?
There was a woman brokering a deal with the owners for awhile this afternoon. They looked very happy before i left about 90 mins ago. She was working those phones like a champ! How'd ya like those soup dumplings AFR1KA?
I can't believe someone was willing to pay (big bucks) for this piece. If this ends up on auction or in a gallery everybody would know where this piece came from and how it was obtained. Why would a gallery / auction house take that risk? There was a woman brokering a deal with the owners for awhile this afternoon. They looked very happy before i left about 90 mins ago. She was working those phones like a champ! How'd ya like those soup dumplings AFR1KA?
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Banksy - Better Out Than In - New York - BOTI, by randomname on Oct 22, 2013 22:41:03 GMT 1, Has anyone checked under that pile of rubbish where the sign is pointing? Could be a dead body under there.
Has anyone checked under that pile of rubbish where the sign is pointing? Could be a dead body under there.
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Banksy - Better Out Than In - New York - BOTI, by tartarus on Oct 22, 2013 22:41:17 GMT 1, Haha bitter I could care less if this Banksy was defaced or taken or lived on untouched. I am just jumping in a conversation where people are trying to blame the people taking this sculpture. I think the Mob of Fans are the reason for this, its an opinion I have not stake in this so I have zero reason to be bitter. I have nothing against people treking to see the pieces I am sure there are plenty that really appreciate the work, Yet if they where smart they might be more tight lipped about the value of the artwork if they want it to stay insitu. Not quite sure about all that... so many multiple sources of information as far as that goes, it's not like something that could be kept quiet... What I DO wonder though, is what's up with all these fools taking video and pix of the moving crew? Nobody does anything? Nobody steps up? I would have loved to see someone just pummel the statue while in mid-air, knocking it to smithereens on the ground whilst that sh!tty sh!tty water splattered all over the place. ^This is the classic American syndrome of See-Something-Film-First-Act-Later.
Its a Queens policy i think!
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Kitty_Genovese
Haha bitter I could care less if this Banksy was defaced or taken or lived on untouched. I am just jumping in a conversation where people are trying to blame the people taking this sculpture. I think the Mob of Fans are the reason for this, its an opinion I have not stake in this so I have zero reason to be bitter. I have nothing against people treking to see the pieces I am sure there are plenty that really appreciate the work, Yet if they where smart they might be more tight lipped about the value of the artwork if they want it to stay insitu. Not quite sure about all that... so many multiple sources of information as far as that goes, it's not like something that could be kept quiet... What I DO wonder though, is what's up with all these fools taking video and pix of the moving crew? Nobody does anything? Nobody steps up? I would have loved to see someone just pummel the statue while in mid-air, knocking it to smithereens on the ground whilst that sh!tty sh!tty water splattered all over the place. ^This is the classic American syndrome of See-Something-Film-First-Act-Later. Its a Queens policy i think! en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Kitty_Genovese
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Banksy - Better Out Than In - New York - BOTI, by kbfrombk on Oct 22, 2013 22:43:13 GMT 1, Not quite sure about all that... so many multiple sources of information as far as that goes, it's not like something that could be kept quiet... What I DO wonder though, is what's up with all these fools taking video and pix of the moving crew? Nobody does anything? Nobody steps up? I would have loved to see someone just pummel the statue while in mid-air, knocking it to smithereens on the ground whilst that sh!tty sh!tty water splattered all over the place. ^This is the classic American syndrome of See-Something-Film-First-Act-Later. Its a Queens policy i think! en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Kitty_Genovese Ayye...
Not quite sure about all that... so many multiple sources of information as far as that goes, it's not like something that could be kept quiet... What I DO wonder though, is what's up with all these fools taking video and pix of the moving crew? Nobody does anything? Nobody steps up? I would have loved to see someone just pummel the statue while in mid-air, knocking it to smithereens on the ground whilst that sh!tty sh!tty water splattered all over the place. ^This is the classic American syndrome of See-Something-Film-First-Act-Later. Its a Queens policy i think! en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Kitty_GenoveseAyye...
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Banksy - Better Out Than In - New York - BOTI, by matp on Oct 22, 2013 22:43:21 GMT 1, Has anyone checked under that pile of rubbish where the sign is pointing? Could be a dead body under there. Its just a mummified Rat in a tomb isn't it??
Has anyone checked under that pile of rubbish where the sign is pointing? Could be a dead body under there. Its just a mummified Rat in a tomb isn't it??
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Banksy - Better Out Than In - New York - BOTI, by lee3 on Oct 22, 2013 22:45:07 GMT 1, >>>>I still blame most of this on the Mob of Fans who flock to these pieces daily and educate the people on the dollar aspect of the work instead of the art aspect of it.<<<
But there is a rub in that statement in that nobody is educating anyone on the dollar aspect of these works. It's a perpetuated myth that these street works command hundreds of thousands of dollars or even a million here and there with no evidence in truth whatsoever. So much so, that we even had an educated art critic in Jerry Saltz suggesting that works like that hammer boy have commanded as much as $500k to a curious audience. He states it as fact to everyone in ear sight that they have "gone for a million dollars."
Therefore nobody is educating anyone with respect to the value of these works. They are simply regurgitating that which was told to them as though factual in nature to a public that knows no better to disagree. The result is that you have a mob of misinformed perpetuating lies that result in the (often hilarious) removal of work that is worth far less than they realize.
>>>>I still blame most of this on the Mob of Fans who flock to these pieces daily and educate the people on the dollar aspect of the work instead of the art aspect of it.<<<
But there is a rub in that statement in that nobody is educating anyone on the dollar aspect of these works. It's a perpetuated myth that these street works command hundreds of thousands of dollars or even a million here and there with no evidence in truth whatsoever. So much so, that we even had an educated art critic in Jerry Saltz suggesting that works like that hammer boy have commanded as much as $500k to a curious audience. He states it as fact to everyone in ear sight that they have "gone for a million dollars."
Therefore nobody is educating anyone with respect to the value of these works. They are simply regurgitating that which was told to them as though factual in nature to a public that knows no better to disagree. The result is that you have a mob of misinformed perpetuating lies that result in the (often hilarious) removal of work that is worth far less than they realize.
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Banksy - Better Out Than In - New York - BOTI, by randomname on Oct 22, 2013 22:45:41 GMT 1, Has anyone checked under that pile of rubbish where the sign is pointing? Could be a dead body under there. Its just a mummified Rat in a tomb isn't it?? That was my first guess. Technically, both could be correct.
Has anyone checked under that pile of rubbish where the sign is pointing? Could be a dead body under there. Its just a mummified Rat in a tomb isn't it?? That was my first guess. Technically, both could be correct.
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Banksy - Better Out Than In - New York - BOTI, by graffuturism on Oct 22, 2013 22:45:57 GMT 1, Haha bitter I could care less if this Banksy was defaced or taken or lived on untouched. I am just jumping in a conversation where people are trying to blame the people taking this sculpture. I think the Mob of Fans are the reason for this, its an opinion I have not stake in this so I have zero reason to be bitter. I have nothing against people treking to see the pieces I am sure there are plenty that really appreciate the work, Yet if they where smart they might be more tight lipped about the value of the artwork if they want it to stay insitu. Oh right, so the fans should enjoy the work in silence, keep tight lipped, refuse to spread the clear joy that these pieces clearly bring to those that see them... keep it all in the nudge nudge wink wink brigade....and in turn, you the media, will do the same yeah? You won't mention value at all? Opps, a bit late for that. What tripe. I dont know if they should be in silence I just think that there is an aspect of this that the crowd is responsible for even if unintentional. Its an opinion and one that is not negative to the fans appreciating the work for what it is, its for the fans that are there for the wrong reasons. Maybe i expect more from the Mob, but I guess I cant win in this argument regardless because I am media and bitter for some odd reason.
As far as the media were not physically at the piece telling the owners to plexi the piece cause its work a million dollars. It would seem that most have no idea what they have until everyone notifies them thus my comment on the Mob dictating what is happening to these pieces. Its all part of it I guess, yet the gripes continue regardless of what happens.
Interesting statement about destroying the piece before it was taken, I wonder if someone did actually destroy it would he also get some backlash.
Haha bitter I could care less if this Banksy was defaced or taken or lived on untouched. I am just jumping in a conversation where people are trying to blame the people taking this sculpture. I think the Mob of Fans are the reason for this, its an opinion I have not stake in this so I have zero reason to be bitter. I have nothing against people treking to see the pieces I am sure there are plenty that really appreciate the work, Yet if they where smart they might be more tight lipped about the value of the artwork if they want it to stay insitu. Oh right, so the fans should enjoy the work in silence, keep tight lipped, refuse to spread the clear joy that these pieces clearly bring to those that see them... keep it all in the nudge nudge wink wink brigade....and in turn, you the media, will do the same yeah? You won't mention value at all? Opps, a bit late for that. What tripe. I dont know if they should be in silence I just think that there is an aspect of this that the crowd is responsible for even if unintentional. Its an opinion and one that is not negative to the fans appreciating the work for what it is, its for the fans that are there for the wrong reasons. Maybe i expect more from the Mob, but I guess I cant win in this argument regardless because I am media and bitter for some odd reason. As far as the media were not physically at the piece telling the owners to plexi the piece cause its work a million dollars. It would seem that most have no idea what they have until everyone notifies them thus my comment on the Mob dictating what is happening to these pieces. Its all part of it I guess, yet the gripes continue regardless of what happens. Interesting statement about destroying the piece before it was taken, I wonder if someone did actually destroy it would he also get some backlash.
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Banksy - Better Out Than In - New York - BOTI, by Deleted on Oct 22, 2013 22:47:02 GMT 1, First let people fight over a pile of stones. Then watch a woman pay big bucks for that pile. Everything is being photographed/filmed/watched. And while all of this is going on on all the pictures there is a big arrow pointing to something else. And no-one is paying attention to that Would be funny if there is something Banksy left there.
(Some sort of message: "it was right under your nose all the time, i even pointed it out to you all")
This guy even filmed the pile of trash : @jomofo713
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Has anyone checked under that pile of rubbish where the sign is pointing? Could be a dead body under there.
First let people fight over a pile of stones. Then watch a woman pay big bucks for that pile. Everything is being photographed/filmed/watched. And while all of this is going on on all the pictures there is a big arrow pointing to something else. And no-one is paying attention to that Would be funny if there is something Banksy left there. (Some sort of message: "it was right under your nose all the time, i even pointed it out to you all") This guy even filmed the pile of trash : @jomofo713 statigr.am/p/572550813561554373_366008232Has anyone checked under that pile of rubbish where the sign is pointing? Could be a dead body under there.
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Banksy - Better Out Than In - New York - BOTI, by kbfrombk on Oct 22, 2013 22:48:32 GMT 1, It's more like MIS-education really.
Who the fack even ever said that Banksy ever touched this statue? I'd love an announcement in November announcing that he'd never left UK, and just Skype'd in all his commands.
>>>>I still blame most of this on the Mob of Fans who flock to these pieces daily and educate the people on the dollar aspect of the work instead of the art aspect of it.<<< But there is a rub in that statement in that nobody is educating anyone on the dollar aspect of these works. It's a perpetuated myth that these street works command hundreds of thousands of dollars or even a million here and there with no evidence in truth whatsoever. So much so, that we even had an educated art critic in Jerry Saltz suggesting that works like that hammer boy have commanded as much as $500k to a curious audience. He states it as fact to everyone in ear sight that they have "gone for a million dollars." Therefore nobody is educating anyone with respect to the value of these works. They are simply regurgitating that which was told to them as though factual in nature to a public that knows no better to disagree. The result is that you have a mob of misinformed perpetuating lies that result in the (often hilarious) removal of work that is worth far less than they realize.
It's more like MIS-education really. Who the fack even ever said that Banksy ever touched this statue? I'd love an announcement in November announcing that he'd never left UK, and just Skype'd in all his commands. >>>>I still blame most of this on the Mob of Fans who flock to these pieces daily and educate the people on the dollar aspect of the work instead of the art aspect of it.<<< But there is a rub in that statement in that nobody is educating anyone on the dollar aspect of these works. It's a perpetuated myth that these street works command hundreds of thousands of dollars or even a million here and there with no evidence in truth whatsoever. So much so, that we even had an educated art critic in Jerry Saltz suggesting that works like that hammer boy have commanded as much as $500k to a curious audience. He states it as fact to everyone in ear sight that they have "gone for a million dollars." Therefore nobody is educating anyone with respect to the value of these works. They are simply regurgitating that which was told to them as though factual in nature to a public that knows no better to disagree. The result is that you have a mob of misinformed perpetuating lies that result in the (often hilarious) removal of work that is worth far less than they realize.
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Banksy - Better Out Than In - New York - BOTI, by graffuturism on Oct 22, 2013 22:52:17 GMT 1, He doesnt have to have ever touched it, many artists have already removed their hand from their work intentionally and chosen conceptual routes Sol Lewit and many postmodernist artists. They intentionally never touch their work. It would be hard for him to deny it was not part of this residency. Not that it matters really. Who knows what will become of this.
He doesnt have to have ever touched it, many artists have already removed their hand from their work intentionally and chosen conceptual routes Sol Lewit and many postmodernist artists. They intentionally never touch their work. It would be hard for him to deny it was not part of this residency. Not that it matters really. Who knows what will become of this.
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Banksy - Better Out Than In - New York - BOTI, by Deleted on Oct 22, 2013 22:55:15 GMT 1, It's more like MIS-education really. Who the fack even ever said that Banksy ever touched this statue? I'd love an announcement in November announcing that he'd never left UK, and just Skype'd in all his commands. November?, not end of October?
It's more like MIS-education really. Who the fack even ever said that Banksy ever touched this statue? I'd love an announcement in November announcing that he'd never left UK, and just Skype'd in all his commands.November?, not end of October?
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Banksy - Better Out Than In - New York - BOTI, by kbfrombk on Oct 22, 2013 22:58:59 GMT 1, It's more like MIS-education really. Who the fack even ever said that Banksy ever touched this statue? I'd love an announcement in November announcing that he'd never left UK, and just Skype'd in all his commands.November?, not end of October? 6 of one 1/2 of other...
It's more like MIS-education really. Who the fack even ever said that Banksy ever touched this statue? I'd love an announcement in November announcing that he'd never left UK, and just Skype'd in all his commands.November?, not end of October? 6 of one 1/2 of other...
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Banksy - Better Out Than In - New York - BOTI, by My Name is Frank on Oct 22, 2013 23:01:58 GMT 1, This gives a better idea of the scale - much bigger than I thought (or the guy is a primordeal dwarf). I see David Gest was a fan. Good luck selling the pile of shite! Truly awful work today, the reverse $60 art prank to me
This gives a better idea of the scale - much bigger than I thought (or the guy is a primordeal dwarf). I see David Gest was a fan. Good luck selling the pile of sh ite! Truly awful work today, the reverse $60 art prank to me
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