naughtyshorty
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Banksy - Better Out Than In - New York - BOTI, by naughtyshorty on Oct 24, 2013 12:07:01 GMT 1, I REALLY hope today's piece is identical to yesterdays, but instead reads "Today's artwork has been cancelled due to Police inactivity" That would quash all the arrest nonsense and demonstrate yesterday's 'art' was all just a planned part of the show from the off. [br
Not sure I follow your logic at all there??
I REALLY hope today's piece is identical to yesterdays, but instead reads "Today's artwork has been cancelled due to Police inactivity" That would quash all the arrest nonsense and demonstrate yesterday's 'art' was all just a planned part of the show from the off. [br Not sure I follow your logic at all there??
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Banksy - Better Out Than In - New York - BOTI, by Hairbland on Oct 24, 2013 12:19:14 GMT 1, Or he's planning something big, something that will tweak the police, and this was a hint. Or a taunt. Could be... And I certainly hope so.... From what I hear the operation is being run something like a combination of James Bond, Ocean's 11 and Salman Rushdie when he had that fatwa against him.
Or he's planning something big, something that will tweak the police, and this was a hint. Or a taunt. Could be... And I certainly hope so.... From what I hear the operation is being run something like a combination of James Bond, Ocean's 11 and Salman Rushdie when he had that fatwa against him.
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Banksy - Better Out Than In - New York - BOTI, by Pistol on Oct 24, 2013 12:28:16 GMT 1, I REALLY hope today's piece is identical to yesterdays, but instead reads "Today's artwork has been cancelled due to Police inactivity" That would quash all the arrest nonsense and demonstrate yesterday's 'art' was all just a planned part of the show from the off. [br Not sure I follow your logic at all there?? Logic? Banksy? Never associate the two!
I REALLY hope today's piece is identical to yesterdays, but instead reads "Today's artwork has been cancelled due to Police inactivity" That would quash all the arrest nonsense and demonstrate yesterday's 'art' was all just a planned part of the show from the off. [br Not sure I follow your logic at all there?? Logic? Banksy? Never associate the two!
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Banksy - Better Out Than In - New York - BOTI, by Goooogle Male on Oct 24, 2013 12:50:45 GMT 1, [br Not sure I follow your logic at all there? Sorry probably didn't explain very well.
IMO, Banksy never had anything planned for yesterday. Yesterdays 'art' WAS the message, and was always meant to be. A clever banksy dig/in joke at at the NYPD attempts to 'Get Banksy'.
By doing 2 opposing pieces of wordplay ('due to action' yesterday, 'due to inaction' today) that would make this clear, and also end the (IMO, unfounded) media/fan discussion which has taken yesterday's piece at face value (ie that it was actually cancelled due to being scuppered by NYPD) rather than seeing that message as the art itself.
Does that make any sense at all?!
[br Not sure I follow your logic at all there? Sorry probably didn't explain very well. IMO, Banksy never had anything planned for yesterday. Yesterdays 'art' WAS the message, and was always meant to be. A clever banksy dig/in joke at at the NYPD attempts to 'Get Banksy'. By doing 2 opposing pieces of wordplay ('due to action' yesterday, 'due to inaction' today) that would make this clear, and also end the (IMO, unfounded) media/fan discussion which has taken yesterday's piece at face value (ie that it was actually cancelled due to being scuppered by NYPD) rather than seeing that message as the art itself. Does that make any sense at all?!
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Banksy - Better Out Than In - New York - BOTI, by Hairbland on Oct 24, 2013 12:56:57 GMT 1, This week's Village Voice has feature "Banksy of NY" with local street artists assessing his "empire state of mind". Some comments from the Patricks of FAILE:
"The premise for the show is brilliant. The ability to use social media to broadcast a show on a global scale is remarkable. It's great to see the range from painted pieces to installation, video and sculptural works. We also appreciate the art of spectacle and its use in creating the show.
We don't even really know what defines a 'graffiti artist' anymore, let alone a 'street artist'. Is it someone who spray-paints their name on a wall? Or is it someone that provokes people through the content they create in the public sphere?"
From Sacha Jenkins, NY graffiti historian: "Banksy has found a way to leverage the quote-unquote 'danger' associated with graffiti for his own purposes. He's using social media and the media in general to promote his agenda, and he's using graffiti to make it more salacious. He has the posture of this supervillian who engulfs a city and no one knows where he'll strike next."
Dan Witz, a street art pioneer in Banksy's "Gift Shop" doc, is one of several artists that speculate that the magnitude of and public interest in "Better Out Than In' will force a generation of street artists to adapt and react, a phenomenon Witz calls "the Picasso syndrome."
This week's Village Voice has feature "Banksy of NY" with local street artists assessing his "empire state of mind". Some comments from the Patricks of FAILE:
"The premise for the show is brilliant. The ability to use social media to broadcast a show on a global scale is remarkable. It's great to see the range from painted pieces to installation, video and sculptural works. We also appreciate the art of spectacle and its use in creating the show.
We don't even really know what defines a 'graffiti artist' anymore, let alone a 'street artist'. Is it someone who spray-paints their name on a wall? Or is it someone that provokes people through the content they create in the public sphere?"
From Sacha Jenkins, NY graffiti historian: "Banksy has found a way to leverage the quote-unquote 'danger' associated with graffiti for his own purposes. He's using social media and the media in general to promote his agenda, and he's using graffiti to make it more salacious. He has the posture of this supervillian who engulfs a city and no one knows where he'll strike next."
Dan Witz, a street art pioneer in Banksy's "Gift Shop" doc, is one of several artists that speculate that the magnitude of and public interest in "Better Out Than In' will force a generation of street artists to adapt and react, a phenomenon Witz calls "the Picasso syndrome."
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Banksy - Better Out Than In - New York - BOTI, by Deleted on Oct 24, 2013 13:02:00 GMT 1, Pandamonium!.
*posted on instagram*
Pandamonium!. *posted on instagram*
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DameHoracia
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Banksy - Better Out Than In - New York - BOTI, by DameHoracia on Oct 24, 2013 13:19:32 GMT 1, This week's Village Voice has feature "Banksy of NY" with local street artists assessing his "empire state of mind". Some comments from the Patricks of FAILE: "The premise for the show is brilliant. The ability to use social media to broadcast a show on a global scale is remarkable. It's great to see the range from painted pieces to installation, video and sculptural works. We also appreciate the art of spectacle and its use in creating the show. We don't even really know what defines a 'graffiti artist' anymore, let alone a 'street artist'. Is it someone who spray-paints their name on a wall? Or is it someone that provokes people through the content they create in the public sphere?" From Sacha Jenkins, NY graffiti historian: "Banksy has found a way to leverage the quote-unquote 'danger' associated with graffiti for his own purposes. He's using social media and the media in general to promote his agenda, and he's using graffiti to make it more salacious. He has the posture of this supervillian who engulfs a city and no one knows where he'll strike next." Dan Witz, a street art pioneer in Banksy's "Gift Shop" doc, is one of several artists that speculate that the magnitude of and public interest in "Better Out Than In' will force a generation of street artists to adapt and react, a phenomenon Witz calls "the Picasso syndrome." Ok, I am being thick here but can anyone explain what this bloke means here: Dan Witz, a street art pioneer in Banksy's "Gift Shop" doc, is one of several artists that speculate that the magnitude of and public interest in "Better Out Than In' will force a generation of street artists to adapt and react, a phenomenon Witz calls "the Picasso syndrome."
Adapt and react, to what, Mr B's work, or their own? Surely present or future 'generation of street artists' are already creating work on the street, from paste ups, murals, sculptures or does he mean the scale of this show. I'm a tad confused as to what he is saying. What's this Picasso Syndrome - is it like my Tomato syndrome?
This week's Village Voice has feature "Banksy of NY" with local street artists assessing his "empire state of mind". Some comments from the Patricks of FAILE: "The premise for the show is brilliant. The ability to use social media to broadcast a show on a global scale is remarkable. It's great to see the range from painted pieces to installation, video and sculptural works. We also appreciate the art of spectacle and its use in creating the show. We don't even really know what defines a 'graffiti artist' anymore, let alone a 'street artist'. Is it someone who spray-paints their name on a wall? Or is it someone that provokes people through the content they create in the public sphere?" From Sacha Jenkins, NY graffiti historian: "Banksy has found a way to leverage the quote-unquote 'danger' associated with graffiti for his own purposes. He's using social media and the media in general to promote his agenda, and he's using graffiti to make it more salacious. He has the posture of this supervillian who engulfs a city and no one knows where he'll strike next." Dan Witz, a street art pioneer in Banksy's "Gift Shop" doc, is one of several artists that speculate that the magnitude of and public interest in "Better Out Than In' will force a generation of street artists to adapt and react, a phenomenon Witz calls "the Picasso syndrome." Ok, I am being thick here but can anyone explain what this bloke means here: Dan Witz, a street art pioneer in Banksy's "Gift Shop" doc, is one of several artists that speculate that the magnitude of and public interest in "Better Out Than In' will force a generation of street artists to adapt and react, a phenomenon Witz calls "the Picasso syndrome."
Adapt and react, to what, Mr B's work, or their own? Surely present or future 'generation of street artists' are already creating work on the street, from paste ups, murals, sculptures or does he mean the scale of this show. I'm a tad confused as to what he is saying. What's this Picasso Syndrome - is it like my Tomato syndrome?
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Banksy - Better Out Than In - New York - BOTI, by nrgball on Oct 24, 2013 13:24:39 GMT 1, I heard that there was a Banksy piece auctioned tonight at a Mass MoCa event and the buyer agreed not to sell the piece for 10 years. Waiting for more info.
And this too was just Unconfirmed. Sorry folks
I heard that there was a Banksy piece auctioned tonight at a Mass MoCa event and the buyer agreed not to sell the piece for 10 years. Waiting for more info. And this too was just Unconfirmed. Sorry folks
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Banksy - Better Out Than In - New York - BOTI, by Deleted on Oct 24, 2013 13:25:53 GMT 1, This week's Village Voice has feature "Banksy of NY" with local street artists assessing his "empire state of mind". Some comments from the Patricks of FAILE: "The premise for the show is brilliant. The ability to use social media to broadcast a show on a global scale is remarkable. It's great to see the range from painted pieces to installation, video and sculptural works. We also appreciate the art of spectacle and its use in creating the show. We don't even really know what defines a 'graffiti artist' anymore, let alone a 'street artist'. Is it someone who spray-paints their name on a wall? Or is it someone that provokes people through the content they create in the public sphere?" From Sacha Jenkins, NY graffiti historian: "Banksy has found a way to leverage the quote-unquote 'danger' associated with graffiti for his own purposes. He's using social media and the media in general to promote his agenda, and he's using graffiti to make it more salacious. He has the posture of this supervillian who engulfs a city and no one knows where he'll strike next." Dan Witz, a street art pioneer in Banksy's "Gift Shop" doc, is one of several artists that speculate that the magnitude of and public interest in "Better Out Than In' will force a generation of street artists to adapt and react, a phenomenon Witz calls "the Picasso syndrome." Ok, I am being thick here but can anyone explain what this bloke means here: Dan Witz, a street art pioneer in Banksy's "Gift Shop" doc, is one of several artists that speculate that the magnitude of and public interest in "Better Out Than In' will force a generation of street artists to adapt and react, a phenomenon Witz calls "the Picasso syndrome."
Adapt and react, to what, Mr B's work, or their own? Surely present or future 'generation of street artists' are already creating work on the street, from paste ups, murals, sculptures or does he mean the scale of this show. I'm a tad confused as to what he is saying. What's this Picasso Syndrome - is it like my Tomato syndrome? I tend to think he means most street artists are shit, mostly busy whoring their street work via legal murals to gain gallery attention and will have to do something more to get peoples attention in the future. But maybe I'm being a little negative?
This week's Village Voice has feature "Banksy of NY" with local street artists assessing his "empire state of mind". Some comments from the Patricks of FAILE: "The premise for the show is brilliant. The ability to use social media to broadcast a show on a global scale is remarkable. It's great to see the range from painted pieces to installation, video and sculptural works. We also appreciate the art of spectacle and its use in creating the show. We don't even really know what defines a 'graffiti artist' anymore, let alone a 'street artist'. Is it someone who spray-paints their name on a wall? Or is it someone that provokes people through the content they create in the public sphere?" From Sacha Jenkins, NY graffiti historian: "Banksy has found a way to leverage the quote-unquote 'danger' associated with graffiti for his own purposes. He's using social media and the media in general to promote his agenda, and he's using graffiti to make it more salacious. He has the posture of this supervillian who engulfs a city and no one knows where he'll strike next." Dan Witz, a street art pioneer in Banksy's "Gift Shop" doc, is one of several artists that speculate that the magnitude of and public interest in "Better Out Than In' will force a generation of street artists to adapt and react, a phenomenon Witz calls "the Picasso syndrome." Ok, I am being thick here but can anyone explain what this bloke means here: Dan Witz, a street art pioneer in Banksy's "Gift Shop" doc, is one of several artists that speculate that the magnitude of and public interest in "Better Out Than In' will force a generation of street artists to adapt and react, a phenomenon Witz calls "the Picasso syndrome."
Adapt and react, to what, Mr B's work, or their own? Surely present or future 'generation of street artists' are already creating work on the street, from paste ups, murals, sculptures or does he mean the scale of this show. I'm a tad confused as to what he is saying. What's this Picasso Syndrome - is it like my Tomato syndrome? I tend to think he means most street artists are shit, mostly busy whoring their street work via legal murals to gain gallery attention and will have to do something more to get peoples attention in the future. But maybe I'm being a little negative?
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Banksy - Better Out Than In - New York - BOTI, by rowan on Oct 24, 2013 13:29:50 GMT 1, BITO would have taken some amount of planning and preparation! I am sure they would have factored in a hiccup like 'police activity'!
I'd have thought they'd have a contingency plan in place, should things not go to plan!
Would be easy enough for them to substitute yesterday's 'piece' with a YouTube video etc while they sorted things out!
I wouldn't be surprised yesterday's announcement wasn't part of something bigger!
BITO would have taken some amount of planning and preparation! I am sure they would have factored in a hiccup like 'police activity'!
I'd have thought they'd have a contingency plan in place, should things not go to plan!
Would be easy enough for them to substitute yesterday's 'piece' with a YouTube video etc while they sorted things out!
I wouldn't be surprised yesterday's announcement wasn't part of something bigger!
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Banksy - Better Out Than In - New York - BOTI, by DameHoracia on Oct 24, 2013 13:36:03 GMT 1, Ok, I am being thick here but can anyone explain what this bloke means here: Dan Witz, a street art pioneer in Banksy's "Gift Shop" doc, is one of several artists that speculate that the magnitude of and public interest in "Better Out Than In' will force a generation of street artists to adapt and react, a phenomenon Witz calls "the Picasso syndrome."
Adapt and react, to what, Mr B's work, or their own? Surely present or future 'generation of street artists' are already creating work on the street, from paste ups, murals, sculptures or does he mean the scale of this show. I'm a tad confused as to what he is saying. What's this Picasso Syndrome - is it like my Tomato syndrome? I tend to think he means most street artists are s**t, mostly busy whoring their street work via legal murals to gain gallery attention and will have to do something more to get peoples attention in the future. But maybe I'm being a little negative? Hmmm, Ok, but to me it seems to be left open to interpretation. I don't get it, it's like politicians speak... A sound bite that to me means very little. Or was the quote shortened or taken out of context from where it was written? God I'm probably being dead thick today, even with a tea it's not clear to me.... That would be s**tty if he meant that most street artists are crap though... Artists work in their own way, some well known 'street' artists whore themselves on a regular basis from what I can see... Is it a bad thing if you have to make a living? I'm probably throwing the thread off key again, no doubt the thread police will be out to spank my fat bot bot! I was simply curious...
Ok, I am being thick here but can anyone explain what this bloke means here: Dan Witz, a street art pioneer in Banksy's "Gift Shop" doc, is one of several artists that speculate that the magnitude of and public interest in "Better Out Than In' will force a generation of street artists to adapt and react, a phenomenon Witz calls "the Picasso syndrome."
Adapt and react, to what, Mr B's work, or their own? Surely present or future 'generation of street artists' are already creating work on the street, from paste ups, murals, sculptures or does he mean the scale of this show. I'm a tad confused as to what he is saying. What's this Picasso Syndrome - is it like my Tomato syndrome? I tend to think he means most street artists are s**t, mostly busy whoring their street work via legal murals to gain gallery attention and will have to do something more to get peoples attention in the future. But maybe I'm being a little negative? Hmmm, Ok, but to me it seems to be left open to interpretation. I don't get it, it's like politicians speak... A sound bite that to me means very little. Or was the quote shortened or taken out of context from where it was written? God I'm probably being dead thick today, even with a tea it's not clear to me.... That would be s**tty if he meant that most street artists are crap though... Artists work in their own way, some well known 'street' artists whore themselves on a regular basis from what I can see... Is it a bad thing if you have to make a living? I'm probably throwing the thread off key again, no doubt the thread police will be out to spank my fat bot bot! I was simply curious...
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Banksy - Better Out Than In - New York - BOTI, by johnnyh on Oct 24, 2013 13:37:42 GMT 1, Ok, I am being thick here but can anyone explain what this bloke means here: Dan Witz, a street art pioneer in Banksy's "Gift Shop" doc, is one of several artists that speculate that the magnitude of and public interest in "Better Out Than In' will force a generation of street artists to adapt and react, a phenomenon Witz calls "the Picasso syndrome."
Adapt and react, to what, Mr B's work, or their own? Surely present or future 'generation of street artists' are already creating work on the street, from paste ups, murals, sculptures or does he mean the scale of this show. I'm a tad confused as to what he is saying. What's this Picasso Syndrome - is it like my Tomato syndrome? The Picasso Syndrome relates to really sort of cultism so it's actually used quite well in this instance. Picasso did a smal, portrait long while ago sold in 1975 for $500,000 five years later it sold for $5 million. it just sold to a rich bloke who they kind of said had no idea really what he was buying but just wanted a Picasso went to auction and just kept bidding till he got one. So the price was based upon the media of modernism and Picasso. Eg Picasso as a kind of cult art hero. So think he is referring to here that people are just chasing Banksy not particularly his art for want of a better word and one that do not want to use but like a "Brand" Hey just buy me some Banksy...it's great
Ok, I am being thick here but can anyone explain what this bloke means here: Dan Witz, a street art pioneer in Banksy's "Gift Shop" doc, is one of several artists that speculate that the magnitude of and public interest in "Better Out Than In' will force a generation of street artists to adapt and react, a phenomenon Witz calls "the Picasso syndrome."
Adapt and react, to what, Mr B's work, or their own? Surely present or future 'generation of street artists' are already creating work on the street, from paste ups, murals, sculptures or does he mean the scale of this show. I'm a tad confused as to what he is saying. What's this Picasso Syndrome - is it like my Tomato syndrome? The Picasso Syndrome relates to really sort of cultism so it's actually used quite well in this instance. Picasso did a smal, portrait long while ago sold in 1975 for $500,000 five years later it sold for $5 million. it just sold to a rich bloke who they kind of said had no idea really what he was buying but just wanted a Picasso went to auction and just kept bidding till he got one. So the price was based upon the media of modernism and Picasso. Eg Picasso as a kind of cult art hero. So think he is referring to here that people are just chasing Banksy not particularly his art for want of a better word and one that do not want to use but like a "Brand" Hey just buy me some Banksy...it's great
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Hairbland
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Banksy - Better Out Than In - New York - BOTI, by Hairbland on Oct 24, 2013 13:38:47 GMT 1, This week's Village Voice has feature "Banksy of NY" with local street artists assessing his "empire state of mind". Dan Witz, a street art pioneer in Banksy's "Gift Shop" doc, is one of several artists that speculate that the magnitude of and public interest in "Better Out Than In' will force a generation of street artists to adapt and react, a phenomenon Witz calls "the Picasso syndrome." Ok, I am being thick here but can anyone explain what this bloke means here: Dan Witz, a street art pioneer in Banksy's "Gift Shop" doc, is one of several artists that speculate that the magnitude of and public interest in "Better Out Than In' will force a generation of street artists to adapt and react, a phenomenon Witz calls "the Picasso syndrome."
Adapt and react, to what, Mr B's work, or their own? Surely present or future 'generation of street artists' are already creating work on the street, from paste ups, murals, sculptures or does he mean the scale of this show. I'm a tad confused as to what he is saying. What's this Picasso Syndrome - is it like my Tomato syndrome? He would mean that if you are a peer, or want to approach this level, that you would need to turn your game up to a much higher level. He is setting the bar at a higher level, which in their own words the other artists allude to. The 'Picasso Syndrome' speaks to what Picasso was doing in his day, and how a number of the great artists from his period recognized his talent, referenced his talent, and were inspired to turn their work up to a higher level.
The artists quoted in the article realize this show is about more than paste ups, murals, sculptures and the like. This show is much like The Joker taking over Gotham City for a month, with Bloomberg and the NYPD ineffectual at best. Coverage here ranges from the straightest uptight press to the funkiest hipster blog and everything in between.
Not sure of your Tomato syndrome...
This week's Village Voice has feature "Banksy of NY" with local street artists assessing his "empire state of mind". Dan Witz, a street art pioneer in Banksy's "Gift Shop" doc, is one of several artists that speculate that the magnitude of and public interest in "Better Out Than In' will force a generation of street artists to adapt and react, a phenomenon Witz calls "the Picasso syndrome." Ok, I am being thick here but can anyone explain what this bloke means here: Dan Witz, a street art pioneer in Banksy's "Gift Shop" doc, is one of several artists that speculate that the magnitude of and public interest in "Better Out Than In' will force a generation of street artists to adapt and react, a phenomenon Witz calls "the Picasso syndrome."
Adapt and react, to what, Mr B's work, or their own? Surely present or future 'generation of street artists' are already creating work on the street, from paste ups, murals, sculptures or does he mean the scale of this show. I'm a tad confused as to what he is saying. What's this Picasso Syndrome - is it like my Tomato syndrome? He would mean that if you are a peer, or want to approach this level, that you would need to turn your game up to a much higher level. He is setting the bar at a higher level, which in their own words the other artists allude to. The 'Picasso Syndrome' speaks to what Picasso was doing in his day, and how a number of the great artists from his period recognized his talent, referenced his talent, and were inspired to turn their work up to a higher level. The artists quoted in the article realize this show is about more than paste ups, murals, sculptures and the like. This show is much like The Joker taking over Gotham City for a month, with Bloomberg and the NYPD ineffectual at best. Coverage here ranges from the straightest uptight press to the funkiest hipster blog and everything in between. Not sure of your Tomato syndrome...
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Banksy - Better Out Than In - New York - BOTI, by Hairbland on Oct 24, 2013 13:46:13 GMT 1, I tend to think he means most street artists are s**t, mostly busy whoring their street work via legal murals to gain gallery attention and will have to do something more to get peoples attention in the future. But maybe I'm being a little negative? Definitely doesn't mean that. The idea of 'street art' is to get attention, to start conversation. To make people think. With this project Banksy has set these concepts at a whole new level. Not unlike the Beatles with Sgt Pepper - which freaked out everyone from the Stones to Brian Wilson.
Just means 'street artists' can think/create as big as they want and are challenged to.
A good thing.
I tend to think he means most street artists are s**t, mostly busy whoring their street work via legal murals to gain gallery attention and will have to do something more to get peoples attention in the future. But maybe I'm being a little negative? Definitely doesn't mean that. The idea of 'street art' is to get attention, to start conversation. To make people think. With this project Banksy has set these concepts at a whole new level. Not unlike the Beatles with Sgt Pepper - which freaked out everyone from the Stones to Brian Wilson. Just means 'street artists' can think/create as big as they want and are challenged to. A good thing.
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naughtyshorty
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Banksy - Better Out Than In - New York - BOTI, by naughtyshorty on Oct 24, 2013 13:58:40 GMT 1, Ok, I am being thick here but can anyone explain what this bloke means here: Dan Witz, a street art pioneer in Banksy's "Gift Shop" doc, is one of several artists that speculate that the magnitude of and public interest in "Better Out Than In' will force a generation of street artists to adapt and react, a phenomenon Witz calls "the Picasso syndrome."
Adapt and react, to what, Mr B's work, or their own? ย Surely present or future 'generation of street artists' are already creating work on the street, from paste ups, murals, sculptures or does he mean the scale of this show. ย I'm a tad confused as to what he is saying. ย What's this Picasso Syndrome - is it like my Tomato syndrome? ย He would mean that if you are a peer, or want to approach this level, that you would need to turn your game up to a much higher level. ย He is setting the bar at a higher level, which in their own words the other artists allude to. ย The 'Picasso Syndrome' speaks to what Picasso was doing in his day, and how a number of the great artists from his period recognized his talent, referenced his talent, and were inspired to turn their work up to a higher level. The artists quoted in the article realize this show is about more than paste ups, murals, sculptures and the like. ย This show is much like The Joker taking over Gotham City for a month, with Bloomberg and the NYPD ineffectual at best. ย Coverage here ranges from the straightest uptight press to the funkiest hipster blog and everything in between. Not sure of your Tomato syndrome...
Agree with this. Quite simply banksy as a leader in his field has raised the bar and set a new level for artists to aspire to and reach, in both what he does, how he communicates as an artist and how he displays his work. Ie he's the one it watch again.
Pretty good when a few months back people were starting to think he had gone off the boil a bit ...
Ok, I am being thick here but can anyone explain what this bloke means here: Dan Witz, a street art pioneer in Banksy's "Gift Shop" doc, is one of several artists that speculate that the magnitude of and public interest in "Better Out Than In' will force a generation of street artists to adapt and react, a phenomenon Witz calls "the Picasso syndrome."
Adapt and react, to what, Mr B's work, or their own? ย Surely present or future 'generation of street artists' are already creating work on the street, from paste ups, murals, sculptures or does he mean the scale of this show. ย I'm a tad confused as to what he is saying. ย What's this Picasso Syndrome - is it like my Tomato syndrome? ย He would mean that if you are a peer, or want to approach this level, that you would need to turn your game up to a much higher level. ย He is setting the bar at a higher level, which in their own words the other artists allude to. ย The 'Picasso Syndrome' speaks to what Picasso was doing in his day, and how a number of the great artists from his period recognized his talent, referenced his talent, and were inspired to turn their work up to a higher level. The artists quoted in the article realize this show is about more than paste ups, murals, sculptures and the like. ย This show is much like The Joker taking over Gotham City for a month, with Bloomberg and the NYPD ineffectual at best. ย Coverage here ranges from the straightest uptight press to the funkiest hipster blog and everything in between. Not sure of your Tomato syndrome... Agree with this. Quite simply banksy as a leader in his field has raised the bar and set a new level for artists to aspire to and reach, in both what he does, how he communicates as an artist and how he displays his work. Ie he's the one it watch again. Pretty good when a few months back people were starting to think he had gone off the boil a bit ...
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Banksy - Better Out Than In - New York - BOTI, by DameHoracia on Oct 24, 2013 14:00:18 GMT 1, Ok, I am being thick here but can anyone explain what this bloke means here: Dan Witz, a street art pioneer in Banksy's "Gift Shop" doc, is one of several artists that speculate that the magnitude of and public interest in "Better Out Than In' will force a generation of street artists to adapt and react, a phenomenon Witz calls "the Picasso syndrome."
Adapt and react, to what, Mr B's work, or their own? Surely present or future 'generation of street artists' are already creating work on the street, from paste ups, murals, sculptures or does he mean the scale of this show. I'm a tad confused as to what he is saying. What's this Picasso Syndrome - is it like my Tomato syndrome? He would mean that if you are a peer, or want to approach this level, that you would need to turn your game up to a much higher level. He is setting the bar at a higher level, which in their own words the other artists allude to. The 'Picasso Syndrome' speaks to what Picasso was doing in his day, and how a number of the great artists from his period recognized his talent, referenced his talent, and were inspired to turn their work up to a higher level. The artists quoted in the article realize this show is about more than paste ups, murals, sculptures and the like. This show is much like The Joker taking over Gotham City for a month, with Bloomberg and the NYPD ineffectual at best. Coverage here ranges from the straightest uptight press to the funkiest hipster blog and everything in between. Not sure of your Tomato syndrome... I'm not sure of my tomato syndrome either...
Ok, so I'm sure someone already mentioned something along these lines on here at the earlier part of this thread. How realistic would it be for any street artist to do what he did, get that level of publicity (because would anyone other than fans of that artist really care?) for this amount of time. Do you see what I mean?so if Delbert from Harlesden upped his game, travelled to NY and in the month of January did the same thing, it wouldn't have this kind of impact. Upping your game as an artist still takes talent but also high level PR to start the ball rolling. Even if Delbert upped his game and painted on the belly of a BA plane, he'd just get arrested. Do you see what I mean.... I bet loads of street artists are stroking their chins thinking hmmmmmm how can I create the same media attention. You see everyone knows the Joker, few people know Delbert from Harlesden... ('cept his gran.) But I can guarantee on pulling out his first can he'd be nicked...
Ok, I am being thick here but can anyone explain what this bloke means here: Dan Witz, a street art pioneer in Banksy's "Gift Shop" doc, is one of several artists that speculate that the magnitude of and public interest in "Better Out Than In' will force a generation of street artists to adapt and react, a phenomenon Witz calls "the Picasso syndrome."
Adapt and react, to what, Mr B's work, or their own? Surely present or future 'generation of street artists' are already creating work on the street, from paste ups, murals, sculptures or does he mean the scale of this show. I'm a tad confused as to what he is saying. What's this Picasso Syndrome - is it like my Tomato syndrome? He would mean that if you are a peer, or want to approach this level, that you would need to turn your game up to a much higher level. He is setting the bar at a higher level, which in their own words the other artists allude to. The 'Picasso Syndrome' speaks to what Picasso was doing in his day, and how a number of the great artists from his period recognized his talent, referenced his talent, and were inspired to turn their work up to a higher level. The artists quoted in the article realize this show is about more than paste ups, murals, sculptures and the like. This show is much like The Joker taking over Gotham City for a month, with Bloomberg and the NYPD ineffectual at best. Coverage here ranges from the straightest uptight press to the funkiest hipster blog and everything in between. Not sure of your Tomato syndrome... I'm not sure of my tomato syndrome either... Ok, so I'm sure someone already mentioned something along these lines on here at the earlier part of this thread. How realistic would it be for any street artist to do what he did, get that level of publicity (because would anyone other than fans of that artist really care?) for this amount of time. Do you see what I mean?so if Delbert from Harlesden upped his game, travelled to NY and in the month of January did the same thing, it wouldn't have this kind of impact. Upping your game as an artist still takes talent but also high level PR to start the ball rolling. Even if Delbert upped his game and painted on the belly of a BA plane, he'd just get arrested. Do you see what I mean.... I bet loads of street artists are stroking their chins thinking hmmmmmm how can I create the same media attention. You see everyone knows the Joker, few people know Delbert from Harlesden... ('cept his gran.) But I can guarantee on pulling out his first can he'd be nicked...
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Banksy - Better Out Than In - New York - BOTI, by Deleted on Oct 24, 2013 14:06:22 GMT 1, I tend to think he means most street artists are s**t, mostly busy whoring their street work via legal murals to gain gallery attention and will have to do something more to get peoples attention in the future. But maybe I'm being a little negative? Definitely doesn't mean that. The idea of 'street art' is to get attention, to start conversation. To make people think. With this project Banksy has set these concepts at a whole new level. Not unlike the Beatles with Sgt Pepper - which freaked out everyone from the Stones to Brian Wilson. Just means 'street artists' can think/create as big as they want and are challenged to. A good thing. of course not I was being flippant and he's an artist
I tend to think he means most street artists are s**t, mostly busy whoring their street work via legal murals to gain gallery attention and will have to do something more to get peoples attention in the future. But maybe I'm being a little negative? Definitely doesn't mean that. The idea of 'street art' is to get attention, to start conversation. To make people think. With this project Banksy has set these concepts at a whole new level. Not unlike the Beatles with Sgt Pepper - which freaked out everyone from the Stones to Brian Wilson. Just means 'street artists' can think/create as big as they want and are challenged to. A good thing. of course not I was being flippant and he's an artist
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Banksy - Better Out Than In - New York - BOTI, by Deleted on Oct 24, 2013 14:16:51 GMT 1, Banksy shows us paradise in the back of a truck, and what happens? Someone steals a turtle. Like life. We can't be trusted with anything nice It's been a while, but since we are still waiting for a new Banksy piece i just wanted to mention that i think we have the colperate.... freakin' Zombies...
Banksy shows us paradise in the back of a truck, and what happens? Someone steals a turtle. Like life. We can't be trusted with anything nice It's been a while, but since we are still waiting for a new Banksy piece i just wanted to mention that i think we have the colperate.... freakin' Zombies...
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Banksy - Better Out Than In - New York - BOTI, by drachinfire on Oct 24, 2013 15:01:23 GMT 1, Do they just read everyones tweets / instagrams and this place and come up with an average?. HuffPo is the Fox News of the online news aggregator game.
Do they just read everyones tweets / instagrams and this place and come up with an average?. HuffPo is the Fox News of the online news aggregator game.
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Banksy - Better Out Than In - New York - BOTI, by Hairbland on Oct 24, 2013 15:07:13 GMT 1, I'm not sure of my tomato syndrome either... Ok, so I'm sure someone already mentioned something along these lines on here at the earlier part of this thread. How realistic would it be for any street artist to do what he did, get that level of publicity (because would anyone other than fans of that artist really care?) for this amount of time. Do you see what I mean?so if Delbert from Harlesden upped his game, travelled to NY and in the month of January did the same thing, it wouldn't have this kind of impact. Upping your game as an artist still takes talent but also high level PR to start the ball rolling. Even if Delbert upped his game and painted on the belly of a BA plane, he'd just get arrested. Do you see what I mean.... I bet loads of street artists are stroking their chins thinking hmmmmmm how can I create the same media attention. You see everyone knows the Joker, few people know Delbert from Harlesden... ('cept his gran.) But I can guarantee on pulling out his first can he'd be nicked... Right...but Banksy's arc has been roughly 20 years and he's pushed into film and the like. KAWS pushing in a different direction, his show that just opened in Philadelphia at PAFA is great. FAILE has pushed into museums and the NYC Ballet, JR's worldwide Inside/Out project is innovative and exciting. What will D*Face do, Eine and whoever else is considered at a high level.
More importantly, as stats I saw yesterday show teens pulling away from Facebook and embracing Twitter and Instagram what young new talent will be inspired by this campaign.
Exciting times.
I'm not sure of my tomato syndrome either... Ok, so I'm sure someone already mentioned something along these lines on here at the earlier part of this thread. How realistic would it be for any street artist to do what he did, get that level of publicity (because would anyone other than fans of that artist really care?) for this amount of time. Do you see what I mean?so if Delbert from Harlesden upped his game, travelled to NY and in the month of January did the same thing, it wouldn't have this kind of impact. Upping your game as an artist still takes talent but also high level PR to start the ball rolling. Even if Delbert upped his game and painted on the belly of a BA plane, he'd just get arrested. Do you see what I mean.... I bet loads of street artists are stroking their chins thinking hmmmmmm how can I create the same media attention. You see everyone knows the Joker, few people know Delbert from Harlesden... ('cept his gran.) But I can guarantee on pulling out his first can he'd be nicked... Right...but Banksy's arc has been roughly 20 years and he's pushed into film and the like. KAWS pushing in a different direction, his show that just opened in Philadelphia at PAFA is great. FAILE has pushed into museums and the NYC Ballet, JR's worldwide Inside/Out project is innovative and exciting. What will D*Face do, Eine and whoever else is considered at a high level. More importantly, as stats I saw yesterday show teens pulling away from Facebook and embracing Twitter and Instagram what young new talent will be inspired by this campaign. Exciting times.
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Banksy - Better Out Than In - New York - BOTI, by urbanxi on Oct 24, 2013 15:12:13 GMT 1, I guess he's gonna keep us waiting today....
I guess he's gonna keep us waiting today....
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Banksy - Better Out Than In - New York - BOTI, by johnnyh on Oct 24, 2013 15:18:25 GMT 1, I'm not sure of my tomato syndrome either... Ok, so I'm sure someone already mentioned something along these lines on here at the earlier part of this thread. How realistic would it be for any street artist to do what he did, get that level of publicity (because would anyone other than fans of that artist really care?) for this amount of time. Do you see what I mean?so if Delbert from Harlesden upped his game, travelled to NY and in the month of January did the same thing, it wouldn't have this kind of impact. Upping your game as an artist still takes talent but also high level PR to start the ball rolling. Even if Delbert upped his game and painted on the belly of a BA plane, he'd just get arrested. Do you see what I mean.... I bet loads of street artists are stroking their chins thinking hmmmmmm how can I create the same media attention. You see everyone knows the Joker, few people know Delbert from Harlesden... ('cept his gran.) But I can guarantee on pulling out his first can he'd be nicked... That's not realistic at all but also that's not what he is saying. Don't know who the guy is or what he knows about street art but hat he is saying is that Banksy has just changed he game....eg in September you had a group ofpeoplewho liked street art. Now everyone is talking about Banksy. Hence a massive increase in the focus on and attention to street art. It kinda become commoditised.
It will have an increased focus from now on etcetc...values will change...galleries will be looking for more street artists, media will be looking for more street artists. Consumers, interior designers etc and collectors will want more street art. Think his point as in the Picasso theory is that this month, this show has changed the game.
I'm not sure of my tomato syndrome either... Ok, so I'm sure someone already mentioned something along these lines on here at the earlier part of this thread. How realistic would it be for any street artist to do what he did, get that level of publicity (because would anyone other than fans of that artist really care?) for this amount of time. Do you see what I mean?so if Delbert from Harlesden upped his game, travelled to NY and in the month of January did the same thing, it wouldn't have this kind of impact. Upping your game as an artist still takes talent but also high level PR to start the ball rolling. Even if Delbert upped his game and painted on the belly of a BA plane, he'd just get arrested. Do you see what I mean.... I bet loads of street artists are stroking their chins thinking hmmmmmm how can I create the same media attention. You see everyone knows the Joker, few people know Delbert from Harlesden... ('cept his gran.) But I can guarantee on pulling out his first can he'd be nicked... That's not realistic at all but also that's not what he is saying. Don't know who the guy is or what he knows about street art but hat he is saying is that Banksy has just changed he game....eg in September you had a group ofpeoplewho liked street art. Now everyone is talking about Banksy. Hence a massive increase in the focus on and attention to street art. It kinda become commoditised. It will have an increased focus from now on etcetc...values will change...galleries will be looking for more street artists, media will be looking for more street artists. Consumers, interior designers etc and collectors will want more street art. Think his point as in the Picasso theory is that this month, this show has changed the game.
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Banksy - Better Out Than In - New York - BOTI, by mubbs695 on Oct 24, 2013 15:21:51 GMT 1, [/quote]
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Banksy - Better Out Than In - New York - BOTI, by frithar on Oct 24, 2013 15:22:18 GMT 1, LOVE today's piece (just went up). Guess I'm a melancholic at heart...
LOVE today's piece (just went up). Guess I'm a melancholic at heart...
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Banksy - Better Out Than In - New York - BOTI, by Goooogle Male on Oct 24, 2013 15:22:28 GMT 1, I reckon you've got 10 mins before those shutters are removed....
I reckon you've got 10 mins before those shutters are removed....
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Banksy - Better Out Than In - New York - BOTI, by Cornish Crayon on Oct 24, 2013 15:22:42 GMT 1, Click...... Your back in the room !!!!
Click...... Your back in the room !!!!
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Banksy - Better Out Than In - New York - BOTI, by johnnyh on Oct 24, 2013 15:24:27 GMT 1, Stunning and great positioning
Stunning and great positioning
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Banksy - Better Out Than In - New York - BOTI, by lifeonwalls on Oct 24, 2013 15:24:50 GMT 1, Perfect placement. Fantastic.
Won't last long though...roll that door up and it's gone.
Perfect placement. Fantastic.
Won't last long though...roll that door up and it's gone.
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Banksy - Better Out Than In - New York - BOTI, by Cornish Crayon on Oct 24, 2013 15:25:35 GMT 1, That's Larry flynts place ain't it ?
That's Larry flynts place ain't it ?
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