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OS Gemeos ๐ง๐ท Sรฃo Paulo Graffiti โข Brazil Street Art, by drip on Oct 20, 2019 22:57:48 GMT 1, That is a beautiful thing. Good luck with the sale and I wish you all the best regarding your health.
That is a beautiful thing. Good luck with the sale and I wish you all the best regarding your health.
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OS Gemeos ๐ง๐ท Sรฃo Paulo Graffiti โข Brazil Street Art, by osgzed1 on Oct 21, 2019 13:52:10 GMT 1, Amazing piece. Best of luck with your sale and health.
Amazing piece. Best of luck with your sale and health.
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OS Gemeos ๐ง๐ท Sรฃo Paulo Graffiti โข Brazil Street Art, by lacey1234 on Oct 31, 2019 9:28:53 GMT 1, Hi , os gemeos original wanted please , money waiting for the right piece . Thanks emma
Hi , os gemeos original wanted please , money waiting for the right piece . Thanks emma
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OS Gemeos ๐ง๐ท Sรฃo Paulo Graffiti โข Brazil Street Art, by Phear Loathing on Nov 13, 2019 4:07:27 GMT 1, Price check os gemeos the other side?
Price check os gemeos the other side?
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OS Gemeos ๐ง๐ท Sรฃo Paulo Graffiti โข Brazil Street Art, by lacey1234 on Nov 23, 2019 20:31:15 GMT 1, Os gemeos origanal wanted please
Os gemeos origanal wanted please
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OS Gemeos ๐ง๐ท Sรฃo Paulo Graffiti โข Brazil Street Art, by lv90210 on Nov 23, 2019 21:01:41 GMT 1, Os gemeos origanal wanted please
Their OG market has been declining, you should be able to find some value.
Os gemeos origanal wanted please Their OG market has been declining, you should be able to find some value. |
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OS Gemeos ๐ง๐ท Sรฃo Paulo Graffiti โข Brazil Street Art, by osgzero1 on Nov 26, 2019 3:30:57 GMT 1, Os gemeos origanal wanted please Their OG market has been declining, you should be able to find some value.
Can you elaborate on why you think the market for OG is declining?
Os gemeos origanal wanted please Their OG market has been declining, you should be able to find some value. Can you elaborate on why you think the market for OG is declining? |
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OS Gemeos ๐ง๐ท Sรฃo Paulo Graffiti โข Brazil Street Art, by Express Post on Nov 26, 2019 7:01:13 GMT 1, 2m by 2m from last year's Lehman Maupin show were $125000.
In June this year a og 199 cm by 163 cm went for ยฃ77.5k inc BP.
In May 2019 an og 200 by 237 cm went for โฌ97500 in BP.
In May 2018 an OG 250 cm by 250cm went for ยฃ100,000 in BP.
And on a side note their prints that once spiked to 3x their value on release struggle to move for cost nowadays.
I think they mean that their secondary is cheaper than primary for ogs, not declining. Maybe referring to the prints. They have definitely declined.
2m by 2m from last year's Lehman Maupin show were $125000.
In June this year a og 199 cm by 163 cm went for ยฃ77.5k inc BP.
In May 2019 an og 200 by 237 cm went for โฌ97500 in BP.
In May 2018 an OG 250 cm by 250cm went for ยฃ100,000 in BP.
And on a side note their prints that once spiked to 3x their value on release struggle to move for cost nowadays.
I think they mean that their secondary is cheaper than primary for ogs, not declining. Maybe referring to the prints. They have definitely declined.
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OS Gemeos ๐ง๐ท Sรฃo Paulo Graffiti โข Brazil Street Art, by lv90210 on Nov 26, 2019 8:30:54 GMT 1, Their OG market has been declining, you should be able to find some value. Can you elaborate on why you think the market for OG is declining?
Their OG market has been declining, you should be able to find some value. Can you elaborate on why you think the market for OG is declining? First post - why has my pride and joy declined in value......... Art purchases are never guaranteed as a good investment - you have to know what you're doing ! |
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OS Gemeos ๐ง๐ท Sรฃo Paulo Graffiti โข Brazil Street Art, by Sundowner on Nov 26, 2019 8:56:05 GMT 1, There is a very big difference between the museum quality pieces that are being offered at primary and the distinctly average pieces being sold at auction.
There is a very big difference between the museum quality pieces that are being offered at primary and the distinctly average pieces being sold at auction.
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OS Gemeos ๐ง๐ท Sรฃo Paulo Graffiti โข Brazil Street Art, by Gunny on Nov 26, 2019 9:41:02 GMT 1, OG have been around a long time now and I think their market value has stagnated / declined a little. If i was investing, I would stay clear even at current pricing levels! I just think they have had long enough now and their market is not strong enough to spend 10's of '000's on. Great at what they do, but it looks like the BIG BIG time is not going to happen for them. IMO.............
OG have been around a long time now and I think their market value has stagnated / declined a little. If i was investing, I would stay clear even at current pricing levels! I just think they have had long enough now and their market is not strong enough to spend 10's of '000's on. Great at what they do, but it looks like the BIG BIG time is not going to happen for them. IMO.............
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OS Gemeos ๐ง๐ท Sรฃo Paulo Graffiti โข Brazil Street Art, by sfnyc on Nov 26, 2019 9:47:43 GMT 1, I got turned off from Os Gemeos after visiting them painting the Chelsea mural over several weeks that was near my office and being blocked by their agent lady from even talking to them or a quick handshake. Like you're so "street" but you don't wanna speak to the community where you're painting... pathetic. Lost interest in them ever since, and looks like I wasn't the only one.
I got turned off from Os Gemeos after visiting them painting the Chelsea mural over several weeks that was near my office and being blocked by their agent lady from even talking to them or a quick handshake. Like you're so "street" but you don't wanna speak to the community where you're painting... pathetic. Lost interest in them ever since, and looks like I wasn't the only one.
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OS Gemeos ๐ง๐ท Sรฃo Paulo Graffiti โข Brazil Street Art, by drip on Nov 26, 2019 11:04:32 GMT 1, I don't know the circumstances regarding sfnyc's (attempted) meeting with Os Gemeos, but it can be really disheartening when you meet (or try to meet) people you admire, and it doesn't go well. I've had a few meetings with "heroes" that haven't gone ok, and it definitely hurts feelings and erodes the love or admiration you previously felt for them. Sometimes it's good to meet your heroes, other times, it's a bit meh.
Having said all that though, if it helps to make it feel less like a personal snub, if Os Gemeos didn't even meet you or talk to you, then they weren't snubbing "you" personally, as they don't even know you. It's impossible for us to know the pressures anyone is under at any given moment or day, and it's possible their handler was just doing their job, trying to enable Os Gemeos to do theirs. It does hurt though and it does feel personal at times. But, unless it's Banksy, I don't think any artist deliberately sets out to give their fans a negative experience on any given day.
But artists take note, when meeting the public, maybe take the time, do what you can (we know you're trying to work), grin and bear it, grease those love wheels a bit, it does help. You don't have to touch us though.
Having said all that, I wouldn't want to meet the public. I hate even going into Tesco.
I don't know the circumstances regarding sfnyc's (attempted) meeting with Os Gemeos, but it can be really disheartening when you meet (or try to meet) people you admire, and it doesn't go well. I've had a few meetings with "heroes" that haven't gone ok, and it definitely hurts feelings and erodes the love or admiration you previously felt for them. Sometimes it's good to meet your heroes, other times, it's a bit meh.
Having said all that though, if it helps to make it feel less like a personal snub, if Os Gemeos didn't even meet you or talk to you, then they weren't snubbing "you" personally, as they don't even know you. It's impossible for us to know the pressures anyone is under at any given moment or day, and it's possible their handler was just doing their job, trying to enable Os Gemeos to do theirs. It does hurt though and it does feel personal at times. But, unless it's Banksy, I don't think any artist deliberately sets out to give their fans a negative experience on any given day.
But artists take note, when meeting the public, maybe take the time, do what you can (we know you're trying to work), grin and bear it, grease those love wheels a bit, it does help. You don't have to touch us though.
Having said all that, I wouldn't want to meet the public. I hate even going into Tesco.
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OS Gemeos ๐ง๐ท Sรฃo Paulo Graffiti โข Brazil Street Art, by therivler1 on Nov 26, 2019 14:02:20 GMT 1, It's incredibly apparent for anyone paying attention, that the value of their works has declined in recent years. If you love their work it shouldn't matter, and provides a great opportunity to buy some amazing work at great prices (ask any fans of Faile about that  )
Regarding meeting them, your expectations of them are your own fault. Their job is to paint, not to be your buddy. That shouldn't matter (other then Retna - screw that guy).
It's incredibly apparent for anyone paying attention, that the value of their works has declined in recent years. If you love their work it shouldn't matter, and provides a great opportunity to buy some amazing work at great prices (ask any fans of Faile about that ) Regarding meeting them, your expectations of them are your own fault. Their job is to paint, not to be your buddy. That shouldn't matter (other then Retna - screw that guy). |
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OS Gemeos ๐ง๐ท Sรฃo Paulo Graffiti โข Brazil Street Art, by lv90210 on Nov 26, 2019 14:24:30 GMT 1, It's incredibly apparent for anyone paying attention, that the value of their works has declined in recent years. If you love their work it shouldn't matter, and provides a great opportunity to buy some amazing work at great prices (ask any fans of Faile about that ) Regarding meeting them, your expectations of them are your own fault. Their job is to paint, not to be your buddy. That shouldn't matter (other then Retna - screw that guy).
It's incredibly apparent for anyone paying attention, that the value of their works has declined in recent years. If you love their work it shouldn't matter, and provides a great opportunity to buy some amazing work at great prices (ask any fans of Faile about that ) Regarding meeting them, your expectations of them are your own fault. Their job is to paint, not to be your buddy. That shouldn't matter (other then Retna - screw that guy). prices deffo gone down..... |
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OS Gemeos ๐ง๐ท Sรฃo Paulo Graffiti โข Brazil Street Art, by wottagunn on Nov 26, 2019 22:23:48 GMT 1, Their job is to paint, not to be your buddy. That shouldn't matter
I met Phlegm a few years ago and he couldn't be more nice. Took out an hour of his day to chat to me, and did a little scribble on some paper too. Always enjoyed his work but now I try to support him as much as I can.
Their job is to paint, not to be your buddy. That shouldn't matter It helps though. I met Phlegm a few years ago and he couldn't be more nice. Took out an hour of his day to chat to me, and did a little scribble on some paper too. Always enjoyed his work but now I try to support him as much as I can. |
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OS Gemeos ๐ง๐ท Sรฃo Paulo Graffiti โข Brazil Street Art, by drip on Nov 26, 2019 23:33:39 GMT 1, Their job is to paint, not to be your buddy. That shouldn't matter It helps though. I met Phlegm a few years ago and he couldn't be more nice. Took out an hour of his day to chat to me, and did a little scribble on some paper too. Always enjoyed his work but now I try to support him as much as I can.
Their job is to paint, not to be your buddy. That shouldn't matter It helps though. I met Phlegm a few years ago and he couldn't be more nice. Took out an hour of his day to chat to me, and did a little scribble on some paper too. Always enjoyed his work but now I try to support him as much as I can. This. They don't have to be all about the meet and greet but it really does endear when artists (or anyone for that matter) are polite and friendly to fans (assuming the fan isn't being annoying or weird). It's nice when the people we admire are nice. It gives you the warm fuzzies and makes you more likely to want to give them cash in the future. Of course, some artists might feel they don't need or want your money, but that's another story. I think the vast majority of artists are super lovely people that are very sociable and are always happy to meet their fans whenever they have the time, opportunity or are relatively sober. |
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OS Gemeos ๐ง๐ท Sรฃo Paulo Graffiti โข Brazil Street Art, by pellets on Nov 27, 2019 1:18:28 GMT 1, Their job is to paint, not to be your buddy. That shouldn't matter It helps though. I met Phlegm a few years ago and he couldn't be more nice. Took out an hour of his day to chat to me, and did a little scribble on some paper too. Always enjoyed his work but now I try to support him as much as I can.
I hope when heโs not busy engraving Phlegm keeps his hands in glass cases like the hand model in zoolander.
Their job is to paint, not to be your buddy. That shouldn't matter It helps though. I met Phlegm a few years ago and he couldn't be more nice. Took out an hour of his day to chat to me, and did a little scribble on some paper too. Always enjoyed his work but now I try to support him as much as I can. I hope when heโs not busy engraving Phlegm keeps his hands in glass cases like the hand model in zoolander. |
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OS Gemeos ๐ง๐ท Sรฃo Paulo Graffiti โข Brazil Street Art, by aml on Nov 27, 2019 10:25:16 GMT 1, Met phlegm as well. Absolutely amazing dude.
As for not meeting with โfansโ, I get that perspective too, especially for a relatively high profile artist. Itโs always nice to have a human connection to the art, but the absence of that does not detract from the art for me.
Also agree with the quality of Os Gemeos works which have been available at auction historically. Canโt just compare raw size.
Met phlegm as well. Absolutely amazing dude.
As for not meeting with โfansโ, I get that perspective too, especially for a relatively high profile artist. Itโs always nice to have a human connection to the art, but the absence of that does not detract from the art for me.
Also agree with the quality of Os Gemeos works which have been available at auction historically. Canโt just compare raw size.
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OS Gemeos ๐ง๐ท Sรฃo Paulo Graffiti โข Brazil Street Art, by artylang on Nov 27, 2019 20:13:58 GMT 1, I got turned off from Os Gemeos after visiting them painting the Chelsea mural over several weeks that was near my office and being blocked by their agent lady from even talking to them or a quick handshake. Like you're so "street" but you don't wanna speak to the community where you're painting... pathetic. Lost interest in them ever since, and looks like I wasn't the only one.
I got turned off from Os Gemeos after visiting them painting the Chelsea mural over several weeks that was near my office and being blocked by their agent lady from even talking to them or a quick handshake. Like you're so "street" but you don't wanna speak to the community where you're painting... pathetic. Lost interest in them ever since, and looks like I wasn't the only one. you mean the collab on the school with futura? That was my hood, too. My experience was different. Got a really nice doodle on a sheet of paper. |
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OS Gemeos ๐ง๐ท Sรฃo Paulo Graffiti โข Brazil Street Art, by irl1 on Nov 28, 2019 16:54:48 GMT 1, Os Gemeos Art Pieces Sold for 6 Figures
www.widewalls.ch/os-gemeos-art/
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OS Gemeos ๐ง๐ท Sรฃo Paulo Graffiti โข Brazil Street Art, by osgzero1 on Nov 29, 2019 2:10:37 GMT 1, This hating on Os Gemeos is very strange (although understandable, perhaps, for the personal experience of sfnyc). They're legends on the streets and continue to create incredible murals and other works. Their status in the eyes of bankers is irrelevant, imho
I totally agree. If you love their work then the financial valuation shouldnโt matter one bit.
I think the twins are hugely talented.
The value of art can and does change. The difficulty for most artists striving to be great is sustaining the interest and demand for their works by being resilient.
This is where OG has I think has sputtered a bit.
I really felt that after their collaboration with Banksy they were going to go sky high.
Still waiting.
This hating on Os Gemeos is very strange (although understandable, perhaps, for the personal experience of sfnyc). They're legends on the streets and continue to create incredible murals and other works. Their status in the eyes of bankers is irrelevant, imho I totally agree. If you love their work then the financial valuation shouldnโt matter one bit. I think the twins are hugely talented. The value of art can and does change. The difficulty for most artists striving to be great is sustaining the interest and demand for their works by being resilient. This is where OG has I think has sputtered a bit. I really felt that after their collaboration with Banksy they were going to go sky high. Still waiting. |
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