bmerel
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Os Gemeos @99prints, by bmerel on Jan 30, 2014 22:20:12 GMT 1, True. Maybe because it needs to be verified by ebay first. EB and ebay do in fact have a partnership. Do they? Elaborate, damn you. Yes, they do. Don't know details though. Nothing seedy or anything, just a partnership of sorts.
True. Maybe because it needs to be verified by ebay first. EB and ebay do in fact have a partnership. Do they? Elaborate, damn you. Yes, they do. Don't know details though. Nothing seedy or anything, just a partnership of sorts.
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Winter
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Os Gemeos @99prints, by Winter on Jan 30, 2014 22:23:51 GMT 1, This further strengthens my idea that 4k for a print of OG is just a bit too much..... Happened today; They have not had trouble in writing the price beforeย I'm out of this thread now. Jeff Koons, Pink Bowโ (Celebration Series), 2013 Medium: Pigment Print on Japanese Watercolor Size: approx. 111 cm x 95 cm / 44โณ x 37.5โณ. Edition of 50 Signed, numbered and dated by Koons Price: $6,350 www.newarteditions.com/new-hand-signed-fifa-brasil-2014-prints-kentridge-koons-orozco-oldenburg-et-al/..."The most famous piece of the series is Koonsโ Balloon Dog (Orange) which sold at Christieโs Post-War and Contemporary Art Evening Sale in New York for $58.4 million, becoming the most expensive work by a living artist sold at auction. Koons created the โPink Bowโ oil on canvas (270 x 346 cm) in 1995 -1997. " That puts a bit of perspective on things doesn't it? Not sure if I would have this on my wall but for an investment point of view this makes sense. ยฃ4k or whatever for a OG print is nuts especially if there are rumours of another release.
This has sold out apparently
This further strengthens my idea that 4k for a print of OG is just a bit too much..... Happened today; They have not had trouble in writing the price beforeย I'm out of this thread now. Jeff Koons, Pink Bowโ (Celebration Series), 2013 Medium: Pigment Print on Japanese Watercolor Size: approx. 111 cm x 95 cm / 44โณ x 37.5โณ. Edition of 50 Signed, numbered and dated by Koons Price: $6,350 www.newarteditions.com/new-hand-signed-fifa-brasil-2014-prints-kentridge-koons-orozco-oldenburg-et-al/..."The most famous piece of the series is Koonsโ Balloon Dog (Orange) which sold at Christieโs Post-War and Contemporary Art Evening Sale in New York for $58.4 million, becoming the most expensive work by a living artist sold at auction. Koons created the โPink Bowโ oil on canvas (270 x 346 cm) in 1995 -1997. " That puts a bit of perspective on things doesn't it? Not sure if I would have this on my wall but for an investment point of view this makes sense. ยฃ4k or whatever for a OG print is nuts especially if there are rumours of another release. This has sold out apparently
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kbfrombk
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Os Gemeos @99prints, by kbfrombk on Jan 30, 2014 22:27:29 GMT 1, Do they? Elaborate, damn you. Yes, they do. Don't know details though. Nothing seedy or anything, just a partnership of sorts. So from what do you speak? I'm not trying to grill (chef joke) you but you mentioned something that piqued an interest conmigo.
Do they? Elaborate, damn you. Yes, they do. Don't know details though. Nothing seedy or anything, just a partnership of sorts. So from what do you speak? I'm not trying to grill (chef joke) you but you mentioned something that piqued an interest conmigo.
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therivler1
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Os Gemeos @99prints, by therivler1 on Jan 30, 2014 22:28:43 GMT 1, if you click through EB to ebay and buy something, EB gets a commission. That's it.
if you click through EB to ebay and buy something, EB gets a commission. That's it.
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kbfrombk
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Os Gemeos @99prints, by kbfrombk on Jan 30, 2014 22:31:29 GMT 1, if you click through EB to ebay and buy something, EB gets a commission. That's it. heh, okay. so there isn't really a complex information-sharing channel between the 2.
thx riv~
if you click through EB to ebay and buy something, EB gets a commission. That's it. heh, okay. so there isn't really a complex information-sharing channel between the 2. thx riv~
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bmerel
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Os Gemeos @99prints, by bmerel on Jan 30, 2014 22:33:24 GMT 1, if you click through EB to ebay and buy something, EB gets a commission. That's it. heh, okay. so there isn't really a complex information-sharing channel between the 2. thx riv~ i didn't know the exact detailsโฆrivler has got it right.
if you click through EB to ebay and buy something, EB gets a commission. That's it. heh, okay. so there isn't really a complex information-sharing channel between the 2. thx riv~ i didn't know the exact detailsโฆrivler has got it right.
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curiousgeorge
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Os Gemeos @99prints, by curiousgeorge on Jan 30, 2014 22:39:44 GMT 1, Thanks for sharing that is an amazing tool, Ill try to keep up with it and venture over there more I just hadnt figured out that forum yet. Looking at the sales figures I was curious how accurate they were because they had the old OG print on there selling for 1000-1200 for an edition of 1001 and size of 8x10. If that accurate I am sure most of you can do the math for yourself. Besides those content with just bashing any mention of this being a decent release. I would exercise caution when reading anything on EB regarding prices
Thanks for sharing that is an amazing tool, Ill try to keep up with it and venture over there more I just hadnt figured out that forum yet. Looking at the sales figures I was curious how accurate they were because they had the old OG print on there selling for 1000-1200 for an edition of 1001 and size of 8x10. If that accurate I am sure most of you can do the math for yourself. Besides those content with just bashing any mention of this being a decent release. I would exercise caution when reading anything on EB regarding prices
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Winter
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Os Gemeos @99prints, by Winter on Jan 30, 2014 22:40:04 GMT 1, A bit like the prints they did for the olympics. There were the edition signed ones (Bridget Riley etc..) then there were the 'prints' that were cheap affordable copies
A bit like the prints they did for the olympics. There were the edition signed ones (Bridget Riley etc..) then there were the 'prints' that were cheap affordable copies
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graffuturism
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Os Gemeos @99prints, by graffuturism on Jan 30, 2014 22:48:49 GMT 1, Thanks for sharing that is an amazing tool, Ill try to keep up with it and venture over there more I just hadnt figured out that forum yet. Looking at the sales figures I was curious how accurate they were because they had the old OG print on there selling for 1000-1200 for an edition of 1001 and size of 8x10. If that accurate I am sure most of you can do the math for yourself. Besides those content with just bashing any mention of this being a decent release. I would exercise caution when reading anything on EB regarding prices Thanks, I can see how those results could manipulated as well. Even if there was some priceguide out there it would be impossible to get a consensus.
Thanks for sharing that is an amazing tool, Ill try to keep up with it and venture over there more I just hadnt figured out that forum yet. Looking at the sales figures I was curious how accurate they were because they had the old OG print on there selling for 1000-1200 for an edition of 1001 and size of 8x10. If that accurate I am sure most of you can do the math for yourself. Besides those content with just bashing any mention of this being a decent release. I would exercise caution when reading anything on EB regarding prices Thanks, I can see how those results could manipulated as well. Even if there was some priceguide out there it would be impossible to get a consensus.
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samboy
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Os Gemeos @99prints, by samboy on Jan 30, 2014 22:52:26 GMT 1, Is the koons a good investment?
Is the koons a good investment?
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M
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Os Gemeos @99prints, by M on Jan 30, 2014 22:54:46 GMT 1, Is the koons a good investment? please PM i will tell what is a good investment
Is the koons a good investment? please PM i will tell what is a good investment
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BKBOI
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Os Gemeos @99prints, by BKBOI on Jan 30, 2014 23:35:00 GMT 1, bitcoins breh
bitcoins breh
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Gard
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Os Gemeos @99prints, by Gard on Jan 30, 2014 23:38:37 GMT 1, Is the koons a good investment? Nope, it's a print for the Fifa World Cup. I think that puts of a lot of collectors, and it's not that good. But that's just my two cents.
Is the koons a good investment? Nope, it's a print for the Fifa World Cup. I think that puts of a lot of collectors, and it's not that good. But that's just my two cents.
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Petrusino
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Os Gemeos @99prints, by Petrusino on Jan 31, 2014 0:18:09 GMT 1, Is the koons a good investment? Yes, it is definitely the signed version; it is an anniversary print that will remain in history; an official FIFA World Cup print from the highest-rated living artist in the art market; Even the print of the twins is an investment .... perhaps; at a lower price it would have been much more. The art market is a lottery; buy what you like, remember that the young artists of today will be the great artists of tomorrow, do not underestimate their potential.
Is the koons a good investment? Yes, it is definitely the signed version; it is an anniversary print that will remain in history; an official FIFA World Cup print from the highest-rated living artist in the art market; Even the print of the twins is an investment .... perhaps; at a lower price it would have been much more. The art market is a lottery; buy what you like, remember that the young artists of today will be the great artists of tomorrow, do not underestimate their potential.
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raindogs
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Os Gemeos @99prints, by raindogs on Jan 31, 2014 8:13:12 GMT 1, If I read this thread I find roughly 60% of posts about the price of the edition. You have already the answer: the print is sold out, this happened in 20 minutes, the print was oversold. So the price is right and probably they would have sold out at higher price. So yes it is indeed a good investment. Few comments about the artistic value of the print. Please share your opinions about art too!
If I read this thread I find roughly 60% of posts about the price of the edition. You have already the answer: the print is sold out, this happened in 20 minutes, the print was oversold. So the price is right and probably they would have sold out at higher price. So yes it is indeed a good investment. Few comments about the artistic value of the print. Please share your opinions about art too!
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alittle
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Os Gemeos @99prints, by alittle on Jan 31, 2014 8:29:57 GMT 1, Didn't love the image. I mean, I liked it, but I didn't $5K like it. To me, a big part of their work is the beautiful colour, and I just thought this piece looked a touch drab with the grey background. Pondered buying the print for what it is, but didn't really feel like spending $5K for the wrong reasons. Ended up buying the Inti print produced by the same studio at a tenth of the cost. It may not be worth $15K, but I like the image more, and my collection is not about investment/speculation.
Didn't love the image. I mean, I liked it, but I didn't $5K like it. To me, a big part of their work is the beautiful colour, and I just thought this piece looked a touch drab with the grey background. Pondered buying the print for what it is, but didn't really feel like spending $5K for the wrong reasons. Ended up buying the Inti print produced by the same studio at a tenth of the cost. It may not be worth $15K, but I like the image more, and my collection is not about investment/speculation.
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Os Gemeos @99prints, by rottenredrooster on Jan 31, 2014 13:03:45 GMT 1, Didn't secure a print myself. 99prints are saying they have not received my payment despite it leaving my account to JRSA.
Pain in the arse.
Didn't secure a print myself. 99prints are saying they have not received my payment despite it leaving my account to JRSA.
Pain in the arse.
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saint
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Os Gemeos @99prints, by saint on Jan 31, 2014 14:07:22 GMT 1, Have you spoken with you bank @rottenredrooster?
Often banks can put a ghost payment on your account, so it will look like the money has gone, but it is really just earmarked to go if the retailer then accepts the payment. The retailer can decline the payment (due to for example something being out of stock) and they will not recieve any money, but it may take longer for your bank to then take the payment off hold.
Did you pay via debit card? if so, should 99prints have accepted the money you would also have a fee for a foreign currency transaction (i think). If you don't have this it is is likely to be a ghost payment.
Fingers crossed for you.
Have you spoken with you bank @rottenredrooster?
Often banks can put a ghost payment on your account, so it will look like the money has gone, but it is really just earmarked to go if the retailer then accepts the payment. The retailer can decline the payment (due to for example something being out of stock) and they will not recieve any money, but it may take longer for your bank to then take the payment off hold.
Did you pay via debit card? if so, should 99prints have accepted the money you would also have a fee for a foreign currency transaction (i think). If you don't have this it is is likely to be a ghost payment.
Fingers crossed for you.
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Os Gemeos @99prints, by rottenredrooster on Jan 31, 2014 14:10:41 GMT 1, Have you spoken with you bank @rottenredrooster? Often banks can put a ghost payment on your account, so it will look like the money has gone, but it is really just earmarked to go if the retailer then accepts the payment. The retailer can decline the payment (due to for example something being out of stock) and they will not recieve any money, but it may take longer for your bank to then take the payment off hold. Did you pay via debit card? if so, should 99prints have accepted the money you would also have a fee for a foreign currency transaction (i think). If you don't have this it is is likely to be a ghost payment. Fingers crossed for you. Yes, bank confirmed it has left the account and was accepted. Can see it myself online.
Yep, 90euro fee was added to the transaction.
Should get sorted today hopefully. Cheers
Have you spoken with you bank @rottenredrooster? Often banks can put a ghost payment on your account, so it will look like the money has gone, but it is really just earmarked to go if the retailer then accepts the payment. The retailer can decline the payment (due to for example something being out of stock) and they will not recieve any money, but it may take longer for your bank to then take the payment off hold. Did you pay via debit card? if so, should 99prints have accepted the money you would also have a fee for a foreign currency transaction (i think). If you don't have this it is is likely to be a ghost payment. Fingers crossed for you. Yes, bank confirmed it has left the account and was accepted. Can see it myself online. Yep, 90euro fee was added to the transaction. Should get sorted today hopefully. Cheers
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saint
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Os Gemeos @99prints, by saint on Jan 31, 2014 14:17:17 GMT 1, Didn't love the image. I mean, I liked it, but I didn't $5K like it. To me, a big part of their work is the beautiful colour, and I just thought this piece looked a touch drab with the grey background. Pondered buying the print for what it is, but didn't really feel like spending $5K for the wrong reasons. Ended up buying the Inti print produced by the same studio at a tenth of the cost. It may not be worth $15K, but I like the image more, and my collection is not about investment/speculation. I love Inti's work, great pick up on that.
As for the Os Gemeos print, i've said it before and will say so again. I love the look of the print. I like the fact that they stepped away from the work they do at gallery shows, colourful backgrounds etc, and tried to keep it in a similar line to their street work. I really look forward to seeing better images of the print, as I think the way the background is done will look like a wall thats been buffed. The colour and patterns coming through on the characters top, and knee, will i'm sure really pop, and the shadow effect will also i'm sure work very well.
All in all, i think its a great print. I also think Os Gemeos would not put their name to something and sign it unless they were very happy with it. You don't wait 20 years to drop a print and then drop something you don't think shows your current work off IMO.
Just my 2c on the art itself rather than the price
Didn't love the image. I mean, I liked it, but I didn't $5K like it. To me, a big part of their work is the beautiful colour, and I just thought this piece looked a touch drab with the grey background. Pondered buying the print for what it is, but didn't really feel like spending $5K for the wrong reasons. Ended up buying the Inti print produced by the same studio at a tenth of the cost. It may not be worth $15K, but I like the image more, and my collection is not about investment/speculation. I love Inti's work, great pick up on that. As for the Os Gemeos print, i've said it before and will say so again. I love the look of the print. I like the fact that they stepped away from the work they do at gallery shows, colourful backgrounds etc, and tried to keep it in a similar line to their street work. I really look forward to seeing better images of the print, as I think the way the background is done will look like a wall thats been buffed. The colour and patterns coming through on the characters top, and knee, will i'm sure really pop, and the shadow effect will also i'm sure work very well. All in all, i think its a great print. I also think Os Gemeos would not put their name to something and sign it unless they were very happy with it. You don't wait 20 years to drop a print and then drop something you don't think shows your current work off IMO. Just my 2c on the art itself rather than the price
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saint
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Os Gemeos @99prints, by saint on Jan 31, 2014 14:18:11 GMT 1, Have you spoken with you bank @rottenredrooster? Often banks can put a ghost payment on your account, so it will look like the money has gone, but it is really just earmarked to go if the retailer then accepts the payment. The retailer can decline the payment (due to for example something being out of stock) and they will not recieve any money, but it may take longer for your bank to then take the payment off hold. Did you pay via debit card? if so, should 99prints have accepted the money you would also have a fee for a foreign currency transaction (i think). If you don't have this it is is likely to be a ghost payment. Fingers crossed for you. Yes, bank confirmed it has left the account and was accepted. Can see it myself online. Yep, 90euro fee was added to the transaction. Should get sorted today hopefully. Cheers Weird.
Hope it gets sorted.
Have you spoken with you bank @rottenredrooster? Often banks can put a ghost payment on your account, so it will look like the money has gone, but it is really just earmarked to go if the retailer then accepts the payment. The retailer can decline the payment (due to for example something being out of stock) and they will not recieve any money, but it may take longer for your bank to then take the payment off hold. Did you pay via debit card? if so, should 99prints have accepted the money you would also have a fee for a foreign currency transaction (i think). If you don't have this it is is likely to be a ghost payment. Fingers crossed for you. Yes, bank confirmed it has left the account and was accepted. Can see it myself online. Yep, 90euro fee was added to the transaction. Should get sorted today hopefully. Cheers Weird. Hope it gets sorted.
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BKBOI
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Os Gemeos @99prints, by BKBOI on Jan 31, 2014 14:30:04 GMT 1, I personally think that although the entire piece appears to be a bit underwhelming on jpegs due to a lot of negative space (the wall), I think the image is very symbolic. It is not just one person because the hat is actually another person that is masked.... like them they are 2 people but they work as one. The piece is saying to me that Os Gemeos started their work on walls and now they are ready to break out and take on the other side of the art world.
I personally think that although the entire piece appears to be a bit underwhelming on jpegs due to a lot of negative space (the wall), I think the image is very symbolic. It is not just one person because the hat is actually another person that is masked.... like them they are 2 people but they work as one. The piece is saying to me that Os Gemeos started their work on walls and now they are ready to break out and take on the other side of the art world.
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streetlife
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Os Gemeos @99prints, by streetlife on Jan 31, 2014 15:09:58 GMT 1, Is the koons a good investment? Koons is massive in the US and this is a large, low edition, signed print of one of his most famous images. Based on historical auction sales, I can see this selling for upwards of $25k in the right auction. Good investment? You do the math.....
Is the koons a good investment? Koons is massive in the US and this is a large, low edition, signed print of one of his most famous images. Based on historical auction sales, I can see this selling for upwards of $25k in the right auction. Good investment? You do the math.....
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Os Gemeos @99prints, by Prescription Art on Jan 31, 2014 15:17:11 GMT 1, Is the koons a good investment? First rule of investing in art... don't buy anything that's absolutely shit. No matter who made it.
Is the koons a good investment? First rule of investing in art... don't buy anything that's absolutely shit. No matter who made it.
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alittle
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Os Gemeos @99prints, by alittle on Jan 31, 2014 15:20:15 GMT 1, So are you the ultimate arbiter of quality? Art is subjective. Some of what I think is shit, people pay millions of dollars for.
So are you the ultimate arbiter of quality? Art is subjective. Some of what I think is shit, people pay millions of dollars for.
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muti
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Os Gemeos @99prints, by muti on Jan 31, 2014 15:25:30 GMT 1, Is the koons a good investment? Koons is massive in the US and this is a large, low edition, signed print of one of his most famous images. Based on historical auction sales, I can see this selling for upwards of $25k in the right auction. Good investment? You do the math..... I like Koons's work but that particular piece looked like something you would either find in a Holiday Inn foyer or Katie Price's bedroom.
Is the koons a good investment? Koons is massive in the US and this is a large, low edition, signed print of one of his most famous images. Based on historical auction sales, I can see this selling for upwards of $25k in the right auction. Good investment? You do the math..... I like Koons's work but that particular piece looked like something you would either find in a Holiday Inn foyer or Katie Price's bedroom.
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Petrusino
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Os Gemeos @99prints, by Petrusino on Jan 31, 2014 15:29:54 GMT 1, Is the koons a good investment? First rule of investing in art... don't buy anything that's absolutely s**t. No matter who made it. ...Unless it is a work by The Twins ... in that case spend 4k without even knowing what will be the image!!!
Is the koons a good investment? First rule of investing in art... don't buy anything that's absolutely s**t. No matter who made it. ...Unless it is a work by The Twins ... in that case spend 4k without even knowing what will be the image!!!
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eschiff
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Os Gemeos @99prints, by eschiff on Jan 31, 2014 15:39:20 GMT 1, First rule of investing in art... don't buy anything that's absolutely s**t. No matter who made it. ...Unless it is a work by The Twins ... in that case spend 4k without even knowing what will be the image!!! false. you knew what the image was before you bought. I clearly saw the print for about 15 minutes before i decided to buy it. But keep up with the hatred!
First rule of investing in art... don't buy anything that's absolutely s**t. No matter who made it. ...Unless it is a work by The Twins ... in that case spend 4k without even knowing what will be the image!!! false. you knew what the image was before you bought. I clearly saw the print for about 15 minutes before i decided to buy it. But keep up with the hatred!
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Gard
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Os Gemeos @99prints, by Gard on Jan 31, 2014 15:40:52 GMT 1, Koons is massive in the US and this is a large, low edition, signed print of one of his most famous images. Based on historical auction sales, I can see this selling for upwards of $25k in the right auction. Good investment? You do the math..... I like Koons's work but that particular piece looked like something you would either find in a Holiday Inn foyer or Katie Price's bedroom. Yeah, but most of his work does. It's kind of his trademark.
Koons is massive in the US and this is a large, low edition, signed print of one of his most famous images. Based on historical auction sales, I can see this selling for upwards of $25k in the right auction. Good investment? You do the math..... I like Koons's work but that particular piece looked like something you would either find in a Holiday Inn foyer or Katie Price's bedroom. Yeah, but most of his work does. It's kind of his trademark.
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muti
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Os Gemeos @99prints, by muti on Jan 31, 2014 15:43:20 GMT 1, I like Koons's work but that particular piece looked like something you would either find in a Holiday Inn foyer or Katie Price's bedroom. Yeah, but most of his work does. It's kind of his trademark. True
I like Koons's work but that particular piece looked like something you would either find in a Holiday Inn foyer or Katie Price's bedroom. Yeah, but most of his work does. It's kind of his trademark. True
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