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OUTIS • Print Release • Street Art, by FЯ on Feb 15, 2014 22:12:39 GMT 1, There is no way on earth we are going to found out who is behind this. It wouldn't be of benefit to them to come out they just had a sold out print run . Outis will keep this going on the premise people might think he's banksy coz that's what he wants how he will achieve sold out runs. Sent from my C5303 using proboards
how on earth someone can sell their first print for £150 is just ridiculous.
the price and the mystique adds to everything. Had this been £40 and outis was new artist, no one would have batted an eyelid. Pez actually has talent but that was ignored.
There is no way on earth we are going to found out who is behind this. It wouldn't be of benefit to them to come out they just had a sold out print run . Outis will keep this going on the premise people might think he's banksy coz that's what he wants how he will achieve sold out runs. Sent from my C5303 using proboards Have to agree. The minute the illusion is ruined its just another print. how on earth someone can sell their first print for £150 is just ridiculous. the price and the mystique adds to everything. Had this been £40 and outis was new artist, no one would have batted an eyelid. Pez actually has talent but that was ignored. |
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OUTIS • Print Release • Street Art, by BKBOI on Feb 15, 2014 22:17:09 GMT 1, could have been said with Banksy.... talent or no talent, the mystery plays into the hype.
could have been said with Banksy.... talent or no talent, the mystery plays into the hype.
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OUTIS • Print Release • Street Art, by doyle on Feb 15, 2014 22:21:38 GMT 1, surely the communication prior to printing this between GP and Outis was more than a couple of emails signed off as Outis? would a business/gallery happily print out all this with no bank details etc (with real names) with no form of security/guarantee on their side? if so, then very trusting, regardless of what the print looks like or who did it.
surely the communication prior to printing this between GP and Outis was more than a couple of emails signed off as Outis? would a business/gallery happily print out all this with no bank details etc (with real names) with no form of security/guarantee on their side? if so, then very trusting, regardless of what the print looks like or who did it.
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OUTIS • Print Release • Street Art, by FЯ on Feb 15, 2014 22:21:41 GMT 1,
Nope and ill say it until im blue da ba dee.
The latest stuff nowt to do and please dont associate me with it.
Im out.
if you read earlier in the thread you will see that i cant stand these prints, whoever is buying them are a bit noobish. Saying that, no disrespect to gp - hes a stand up guy.
Nope and ill say it until im blue da ba dee. The latest stuff nowt to do and please dont associate me with it. Im out. if you read earlier in the thread you will see that i cant stand these prints, whoever is buying them are a bit noobish. Saying that, no disrespect to gp - hes a stand up guy. |
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OUTIS • Print Release • Street Art, by graffuturism on Feb 15, 2014 22:27:51 GMT 1, 100% genuine is being questioned now because who is to say Jboy or anyone else is not Outis if GP doesnt know who outis is. GP states that because he knows the address he sent them to and he knows Jboys address. To me it is possible to get mail shipped anywhere and rerouted to wherever they would like. So GP's claim that it cant be Jboy could have holes poked in it. Why would anyone go through all the trouble to reroute mail, well why would outis go through all the trouble of putting steps in motion months ago with the FB page. To me Unless GP has something more than an address to dispute that Jboy is not Outis then he really cant say its not him 100% as he stated. Anyone could be Outis if he really doesnt know who the artist is. Am I wrong? Good point. The only way to prove Jboys are not Outis is for the real Outis to come forward or for GP to provide something conclusive by way of evidence. GP?
100% genuine is being questioned now because who is to say Jboy or anyone else is not Outis if GP doesnt know who outis is. GP states that because he knows the address he sent them to and he knows Jboys address. To me it is possible to get mail shipped anywhere and rerouted to wherever they would like. So GP's claim that it cant be Jboy could have holes poked in it. Why would anyone go through all the trouble to reroute mail, well why would outis go through all the trouble of putting steps in motion months ago with the FB page. To me Unless GP has something more than an address to dispute that Jboy is not Outis then he really cant say its not him 100% as he stated. Anyone could be Outis if he really doesnt know who the artist is. Am I wrong? Good point. The only way to prove Jboys are not Outis is for the real Outis to come forward or for GP to provide something conclusive by way of evidence. GP? Agreed |
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OUTIS • Print Release • Street Art, by petro on Feb 15, 2014 22:33:37 GMT 1, "Jboy has always been same Jboy till one day he de-registered and came back as Freerange."
"What is the deal with freerange/jboy... its the same person but why are you not on here as an artist?"
Again, Freerange is Jboy. Mystery solved. Makes sense, since he's the one who posted the link to the Jboy Twitter page.
"Jboy has always been same Jboy till one day he de-registered and came back as Freerange."
"What is the deal with freerange/jboy... its the same person but why are you not on here as an artist?"
Again, Freerange is Jboy. Mystery solved. Makes sense, since he's the one who posted the link to the Jboy Twitter page.
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OUTIS • Print Release • Street Art, by Coach on Feb 15, 2014 22:34:39 GMT 1, My recollection, for what it's worth (feel free to correct me if I'm wrong), is that for a number of years Freerange's user name on this site was Jboy.
At one point a few prints were released under the name Jboy, which was said to be more than one person.
The impression I had was that freerange was either one of them, or at least involved in the project. As I say, that was my impression. Was that not the case freerange?
As to whether this print is by Jboy, whether Jboy is still more than one person, and whether freerange has any involvement with this print, well I have no idea.
Good luck to anyone who bought this print because they like it. It does nothing for me whatsoever.
My recollection, for what it's worth (feel free to correct me if I'm wrong), is that for a number of years Freerange's user name on this site was Jboy.
At one point a few prints were released under the name Jboy, which was said to be more than one person.
The impression I had was that freerange was either one of them, or at least involved in the project. As I say, that was my impression. Was that not the case freerange?
As to whether this print is by Jboy, whether Jboy is still more than one person, and whether freerange has any involvement with this print, well I have no idea.
Good luck to anyone who bought this print because they like it. It does nothing for me whatsoever.
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OUTIS • Print Release • Street Art, by graffuturism on Feb 15, 2014 22:35:56 GMT 1, "Jboy has always been same Jboy till one day he de-registered and came back as Freerange." "What is the deal with freerange/jboy... its the same person but why are you not on here as an artist?" Again, Freerange is Jboy. Mystery solved. Makes sense, since he's the one who posted the link to the Jboy Twitter page.
What does this have to do with proving jboy isn't outis?
"Jboy has always been same Jboy till one day he de-registered and came back as Freerange." "What is the deal with freerange/jboy... its the same person but why are you not on here as an artist?" Again, Freerange is Jboy. Mystery solved. Makes sense, since he's the one who posted the link to the Jboy Twitter page. What does this have to do with proving jboy isn't outis? |
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OUTIS • Print Release • Street Art, by BKBOI on Feb 15, 2014 22:38:23 GMT 1, Don't know why anyone in their right mind would actually choose the username freerange.... the original freerange was a 2nd jboy account and was used to hype jboy's releases. I know that you got the special R going on freerange but you always talked like you know more than just a noob poster here on Banksy forum since the DALeast Laz release.
Don't know why anyone in their right mind would actually choose the username freerange.... the original freerange was a 2nd jboy account and was used to hype jboy's releases. I know that you got the special R going on freerange but you always talked like you know more than just a noob poster here on Banksy forum since the DALeast Laz release.
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OUTIS • Print Release • Street Art, by petro on Feb 15, 2014 22:39:36 GMT 1, "Jboy has always been same Jboy till one day he de-registered and came back as Freerange." "What is the deal with freerange/jboy... its the same person but why are you not on here as an artist?" Again, Freerange is Jboy. Mystery solved. Makes sense, since he's the one who posted the link to the Jboy Twitter page. What does this have to do with proving jboy isn't outis?
"Jboy has always been same Jboy till one day he de-registered and came back as Freerange." "What is the deal with freerange/jboy... its the same person but why are you not on here as an artist?" Again, Freerange is Jboy. Mystery solved. Makes sense, since he's the one who posted the link to the Jboy Twitter page. What does this have to do with proving jboy isn't outis? It's pretty obvious Jboy/Freerange is just trying to get a rise out of everyone. Personally, I think it's hilarious. But is he Outis? No, he's not. The Outis site is pretty clear about that. |
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OUTIS • Print Release • Street Art, by graffuturism on Feb 15, 2014 22:46:52 GMT 1, What does this have to do with proving jboy isn't outis? It's pretty obvious Jboy/Freerange is just trying to get a rise out of everyone. Personally, I think it's hilarious. But is he Outis? No, he's not. The Outis site is pretty clear about that.
As far as GP trying to say they can 100% say jboy is not Outis is incorrect as I stated earlier unless they have more information then they are leading on to. Which I am sure they do. Which also would lead me to believe they have been in on the whole thing. Them coming out saying that Jboy is 100% not Outis yet Say they are 99.99% sure its not banksy says alot about what they know and there also using the Banksy hype to make money.
What does this have to do with proving jboy isn't outis? It's pretty obvious Jboy/Freerange is just trying to get a rise out of everyone. Personally, I think it's hilarious. But is he Outis? No, he's not. The Outis site is pretty clear about that. That doesnt prove anything, the thing about being mysterious is that anyone can claim to be the artist and also the instagram account clearly stated someone had accessed their feed but they now have full control. How does someone just access you instagram? You seem to be pretty confident that outis is not Jboy and also pretty focused about exposing jboy as freerange diverting the conversation away from how do you prove Jboy is not outis, or any other artist who wants to claim he is outis. Do you have some knowledge we dont. As far as GP trying to say they can 100% say jboy is not Outis is incorrect as I stated earlier unless they have more information then they are leading on to. Which I am sure they do. Which also would lead me to believe they have been in on the whole thing. Them coming out saying that Jboy is 100% not Outis yet Say they are 99.99% sure its not banksy says alot about what they know and there also using the Banksy hype to make money. |
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OUTIS • Print Release • Street Art, by BKBOI on Feb 15, 2014 22:49:07 GMT 1, I don't think GP would go through the trouble of discrediting Jboy on twitter just to cause more drama. Remember, they are a genuine family run business.
I don't think GP would go through the trouble of discrediting Jboy on twitter just to cause more drama. Remember, they are a genuine family run business.
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OUTIS • Print Release • Street Art, by graffuturism on Feb 15, 2014 22:53:37 GMT 1, I don't think GP would go through the trouble of discrediting Jboy on twitter just to cause more drama. Remember, they are a genuine family run business.
I don't think GP would go through the trouble of discrediting Jboy on twitter just to cause more drama. Remember, they are a genuine family run business. A genuine run family business that somehow can claim 100% one minute to protect their investment that their artist is not a second rate artists with no value, yet leave the .01% chance that people could be buying a banksy. |
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OUTIS • Print Release • Street Art, by doyle on Feb 15, 2014 23:07:23 GMT 1, jboys twitter description is 'Urban artists who are a nice nuissance' plural/more than one of them, so if jboy is freerange and he didn't design the print and someone else on the group did, he can technically deny he did it (even if he thinks it's whack lol)
jboys twitter description is 'Urban artists who are a nice nuissance' plural/more than one of them, so if jboy is freerange and he didn't design the print and someone else on the group did, he can technically deny he did it (even if he thinks it's whack lol)
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OUTIS • Print Release • Street Art, by Art Fan 2011 on Feb 15, 2014 23:16:23 GMT 1, I don't think GP would go through the trouble of discrediting Jboy on twitter just to cause more drama. Remember, they are a genuine family run business. A genuine run family business that somehow can claim 100% one minute to protect their investment that their artist is not a second rate artists with no value, yet leave the .01% chance that people could be buying a banksy.
Doing themselves no favours during this whole circus!!!
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I don't think GP would go through the trouble of discrediting Jboy on twitter just to cause more drama. Remember, they are a genuine family run business. A genuine run family business that somehow can claim 100% one minute to protect their investment that their artist is not a second rate artists with no value, yet leave the .01% chance that people could be buying a banksy. Doing themselves no favours during this whole circus!!! Artfan2011 |
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OUTIS • Print Release • Street Art, by Deleted on Feb 15, 2014 23:18:32 GMT 1, Recognize the rat??? Nuff said...
It's a JPS for better or worse. Jeez you people going on for 24 pages about a blaring non-mystery. Now kindly free up my recent posts page 
Recognize the rat??? Nuff said... It's a JPS for better or worse. Jeez you people going on for 24 pages about a blaring non-mystery. Now kindly free up my recent posts page |
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OUTIS • Print Release • Street Art, by graffuturism on Feb 15, 2014 23:22:37 GMT 1, Is it even Legal wherever Gp is located to mislead their customers like this. I know we are all professionals and can make our own decisions but after translating and taking in all the happenings it is getting clearer what is happening. GP stating 99.99% that not a banksy translates to there is a .01 chance you are buying a banksy with this print. If they have no knowledge who the artist is and in fact were communicating with an artist named outis then it would be 100% chance it wasnt banksy, yet they invoke the .01% in there which misleads and is malicious now looking back. I say that because of the recent 100% statement it wasnt jboy which has not financial gain for them.
My arguments are only to engage conversation about the business tactics about this release, not the artists or the print I am sure everyone is happy that bought one and those that didnt I am sure they are ok.
Is it even Legal wherever Gp is located to mislead their customers like this. I know we are all professionals and can make our own decisions but after translating and taking in all the happenings it is getting clearer what is happening. GP stating 99.99% that not a banksy translates to there is a .01 chance you are buying a banksy with this print. If they have no knowledge who the artist is and in fact were communicating with an artist named outis then it would be 100% chance it wasnt banksy, yet they invoke the .01% in there which misleads and is malicious now looking back. I say that because of the recent 100% statement it wasnt jboy which has not financial gain for them.
My arguments are only to engage conversation about the business tactics about this release, not the artists or the print I am sure everyone is happy that bought one and those that didnt I am sure they are ok.
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OUTIS • Print Release • Street Art, by petro on Feb 15, 2014 23:24:33 GMT 1, Recognize the rat??? Nuff said... It's a JPS for better or worse. Jeez you people going on for 24 pages about a blaring non-mystery. Now kindly free up my recent posts page
Recognize the rat??? Nuff said... It's a JPS for better or worse. Jeez you people going on for 24 pages about a blaring non-mystery. Now kindly free up my recent posts page Actually, the rat image here is copied from a Banksy street stencil piece. You can find it in Google images. |
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OUTIS • Print Release • Street Art, by Deleted on Feb 15, 2014 23:30:36 GMT 1, Recognize the rat??? Nuff said... It's a JPS for better or worse. Jeez you people going on for 24 pages about a blaring non-mystery. Now kindly free up my recent posts page Actually, the rat image here is copied from a Banksy street stencil piece. You can find it in Google images.
No that is the exact rat from JPS's piece that Fragile mistakenly said was a Banksy. I know, I was offered the brown one in the picture at the time.
Recognize the rat??? Nuff said... It's a JPS for better or worse. Jeez you people going on for 24 pages about a blaring non-mystery. Now kindly free up my recent posts page Actually, the rat image here is copied from a Banksy street stencil piece. You can find it in Google images. No that is the exact rat from JPS's piece that Fragile mistakenly said was a Banksy. I know, I was offered the brown one in the picture at the time. |
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OUTIS • Print Release • Street Art, by petro on Feb 15, 2014 23:37:27 GMT 1, I'm kinda done with posting links, but the JPS rat most certainly is a copy of a Banksy street stencil. There's a bunch of documented pics on the web. JPS just flipped it horizontally and added a paintbrush/paint can.
I'm kinda done with posting links, but the JPS rat most certainly is a copy of a Banksy street stencil. There's a bunch of documented pics on the web. JPS just flipped it horizontally and added a paintbrush/paint can.
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OUTIS • Print Release • Street Art, by beanxx on Feb 15, 2014 23:42:35 GMT 1, www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-bristol-17672821 yes i was responsible for the paint to escape the rat i created was based on the rat from 'if graffiti changed anything it would be illegal i regret this move and have nothing to do with this i dont need to do these stunts these days ive developed my own thing however the paint to escape idea was a 100% mine i did use a rat knowing it would fool people 
www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-bristol-17672821 yes i was responsible for the paint to escape the rat i created was based on the rat from 'if graffiti changed anything it would be illegal i regret this move and have nothing to do with this i dont need to do these stunts these days ive developed my own thing however the paint to escape idea was a 100% mine i did use a rat knowing it would fool people
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OUTIS • Print Release • Street Art, by Deleted on Feb 15, 2014 23:43:21 GMT 1, Is anyone actually debating that JPS copied a Banksy image? No. You missed my main point: the print is obviously JPS.
(Now I can see why this thread is so long)
Is anyone actually debating that JPS copied a Banksy image? No. You missed my main point: the print is obviously JPS.
(Now I can see why this thread is so long)
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OUTIS • Print Release • Street Art, by graffuturism on Feb 15, 2014 23:43:38 GMT 1, Is it even Legal wherever Gp is located to mislead their customers like this. I know we are all professionals and can make our own decisions but after translating and taking in all the happenings it is getting clearer what is happening. GP stating 99.99% that not a banksy translates to there is a .01 chance you are buying a banksy with this print. If they have no knowledge who the artist is and in fact were communicating with an artist named outis then it would be 100% chance it wasnt banksy, yet they invoke the .01% in there which misleads and is malicious now looking back. I say that because of the recent 100% statement it wasnt jboy which has not financial gain for them. My arguments are only to engage conversation about the business tactics about this release, not the artists or the print I am sure everyone is happy that bought one and those that didnt I am sure they are ok. I don't know the legalities but its certainly a deliberate stance to create hysteria. Don't know who the artist is but manage to make a print with them. Are you leaving the proceeds in a brown bag in a rubbish bin for this mysterious artist to collect? utter rubbish
Is it even Legal wherever Gp is located to mislead their customers like this. I know we are all professionals and can make our own decisions but after translating and taking in all the happenings it is getting clearer what is happening. GP stating 99.99% that not a banksy translates to there is a .01 chance you are buying a banksy with this print. If they have no knowledge who the artist is and in fact were communicating with an artist named outis then it would be 100% chance it wasnt banksy, yet they invoke the .01% in there which misleads and is malicious now looking back. I say that because of the recent 100% statement it wasnt jboy which has not financial gain for them. My arguments are only to engage conversation about the business tactics about this release, not the artists or the print I am sure everyone is happy that bought one and those that didnt I am sure they are ok. I don't know the legalities but its certainly a deliberate stance to create hysteria. Don't know who the artist is but manage to make a print with them. Are you leaving the proceeds in a brown bag in a rubbish bin for this mysterious artist to collect? utter rubbish Tax implications as well in the states any artist regardless of alias needs to fill out a w-9 form with the legal name in order to get paid or the gallery is left with the tax implications. Most galleries will send you a 1099 at the years end based on your earnings. Not sure what the practice is across the pond. |
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OUTIS • Print Release • Street Art, by mmmike on Feb 15, 2014 23:44:41 GMT 1, Im out at the mo, i will post the jboy link when im back Jboy on twitter is now openly admitting it's him
Im out at the mo, i will post the jboy link when im back Jboy on twitter is now openly admitting it's him I'm trying to catch up. So is it official? Jboy is Banksy! |
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OUTIS • Print Release • Street Art, by beanxx on Feb 15, 2014 23:45:32 GMT 1, also GP have stated these were signed abroad i last left uk soil early december for a holiday in tunisia seems your all back to square 1
also GP have stated these were signed abroad i last left uk soil early december for a holiday in tunisia seems your all back to square 1
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OUTIS • Print Release • Street Art, by Wearology on Feb 15, 2014 23:47:49 GMT 1, You could say that any piece of art is 99.9% NOT Banksy unless it is on Banksy's web site or authenticated by Pest Control than it is 100% by Banksy. If Banksy's identity is supposedly not known by the general public which would include the owner of Graffiti Prints than there is your 0.1% chance it is by Mr. B.
You could say that any piece of art is 99.9% NOT Banksy unless it is on Banksy's web site or authenticated by Pest Control than it is 100% by Banksy. If Banksy's identity is supposedly not known by the general public which would include the owner of Graffiti Prints than there is your 0.1% chance it is by Mr. B.
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OUTIS • Print Release • Street Art, by Poster Bob on Feb 15, 2014 23:49:13 GMT 1, Yeah and is Graffiti Prints in the US? No. Oh, and if the artist really wanted to be clever could they set up and LLC and be paid through that? Surely.
Yeah and is Graffiti Prints in the US? No. Oh, and if the artist really wanted to be clever could they set up and LLC and be paid through that? Surely.
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OUTIS • Print Release • Street Art, by graffuturism on Feb 15, 2014 23:53:41 GMT 1, Yeah and is Graffiti Prints in the US? No. Oh, and if the artist really wanted to be clever could they set up and LLC and be paid through that? Surely.
Yeah and is Graffiti Prints in the US? No. Oh, and if the artist really wanted to be clever could they set up and LLC and be paid through that? Surely. I understand they are not in the US not sure where they are and too lazy to google it, but wherever they are I am sure there is a similar tax system. Of course you can set up a corp or LLC as well you are correct in the US we can still see who are the officers and associates on any corporation as well which would be a real person down the line somewhere. |
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